1998/05/26 08:15
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #404
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 404
Today's Topics:
heaxgram [ yvonne harvey <yharveyATnospamibm.net> ]
Re: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource [ "Debora A. Orf" <dorf01ATnospammail.win.or ]
Very new [ SAJID SIDDIQUE <sajidATnospamnest.stpt.sof ]
Re: REMOVE BODY HAIR PERMANENTLY!! [ MariAna Mikula <romeATnospamiwaynet.net> ]
hmmmmmmm [ "Sharon Webb" <shawebbATnospamyhc.edu> ]
Re: Aura colors [ Danijel Turina <sinisa.turinaATnospamzg.te ]
Re: The Force of Self-Realization [ Jerry <umbadaATnospamns.sympatico.ca> ]
Re: The Force of Self-Realization [ Jerry <umbadaATnospamns.sympatico.ca> ]
Reiki and Kundalini [ Hofe1 <Hofe1ATnospamaol.com> ]
Re: The Force of Self-Realization [ Harsha1MTM <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com> ]
RE: The Force of Self-Realization [ "Jan Barendrecht" <janbarenATnospamcorreo. ]
Re: hmmmmmmm [ Harsha1MTM <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com> ]
Re: hmmmmmmm [ David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net> ]
Re: hmmmmmmm [ "Orea de Sa' Hana" <oreaATnospamerols.com> ]
unsubscribe [ taproot <taprootATnospamma.ultranet.com> ]
Re: Thanks all for your support and [ Harsha1MTM <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com> ]
Re: REMOVE BODY HAIR PERMANENTLY!! [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpent ]
Re: REMOVE BODY HAIR PERMANENTLY!! [ Mary Ezzell <maryATnospamsonic.net> ]
Re: REMOVE BODY HAIR PERMANENTLY!! [ valerie <madammumATnospamptialaska.net> ]
RE: The Force of Self-Realization [ Afperry <AfperryATnospamaol.com> ]
unsubscribe [ PWein233 <PWein233ATnospamaol.com> ]
RE: The Force of Self-Realization [ Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic ]
Re: REMOVE BODY HAIR PERMANENTLY!! [ "Orea de Sa' Hana" <oreaATnospamerols.com> ]
Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 09:05:51 -0400
From: yvonne harvey <yharveyATnospamibm.net>
To: heideATnospamadan.kingston.net
CC: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: heaxgram
Message-ID: <35696CAF.3291ATnospamibm.net>
Hello AM ! I read your post and have a lead that may help you find
some answers. I have been 'seeing' in my third eye, geometrical objects
since 1980 or so. I have been studying and 'doing' Astrology charts for
years. I have only been on the internet for about 5 weeks now and have
found some wonderful sites. The following one had me in tears of joy
of recognition and has sent me on yet another path of discovery.
I can't recall the exact part of this area's e-mail/web page,
to go to but there is a part that has sacred alphabet that sounds
exactly like what you are describing....Good Luck!!
Blessings to you Yvonne
Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 09:10:26 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Debora A. Orf" <dorf01ATnospammail.win.org>
To: Shakyamuni <deftones5ATnospamaol.com>
cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center
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On Sun, 24 May 1998, Shakyamuni wrote:
> before duality, NON
> before Enlightenment, Blindness
> We cannot escape the tug of that unto which our souls will not go undisclosed.
> The greatest wisdom is that of compassion.
> Therefore, forsake ignorance
> But first crawl up on your cross, forsake the EGO
> How do you eat your body of Christ, your Holy Communion?
> I found mine
> at the base
> of my spine
where is the I that found the soul?
to what owner do these thoughts belong?
The house appears live and vivid, but
is only rainbow-light form and shadow.
base of the spine? or base of the mind?
There is a gate that facing north, one enters south, facing south one
enters north, facing east, enters west, facing west, enters east.
Buddhas & Bodhisattvas pass thru it to all directions.
Show me the i that owns the thoughts that penned this page.
--janpa tsomo
Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 20:03:39 +0530
From: SAJID SIDDIQUE <sajidATnospamnest.stpt.soft.net>
To: "'kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com'" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Very new
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Hai
i am very new to this subject,got this web site from internet when i
searched
for the information about kundalini,can anyone give me the details about
the first or starting step i have to take in this ,what all are the
things i have t control to acquire this is food,sex etc is to be
controlled,pls send me the details i will be grateful to u
sajid
SAJID.P.SIDDIQUE
http://www.nestindia.com
NeST,TECHNOPARK
Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 11:13:26 -0400
From: MariAna Mikula <romeATnospamiwaynet.net>
To: flowsATnospamstuff.com
CC: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: REMOVE BODY HAIR PERMANENTLY!!
Message-ID: <35698A96.6926ATnospamiwaynet.net>
GO AWAY - you spammer -GO WAY
Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 11:52:36 -0400
From: "Sharon Webb" <shawebbATnospamyhc.edu>
To: <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: hmmmmmmm
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Jan,
You wrote:
Self-realization will make sex and riches irrelevant, as these things cannot
add to the experience of everlasting bliss. Because the body has been a
loyal servant during the spiritual journey and still can serve others (as
seen from the viewpoint of the others), one will take care of it in a
responsible but detached way, so it will be slim, strong and healthy.
But, if this is so, how come all the statues and pictures of the Buddha show
a guy who is definitely on the chunky side?
Just wondering....
:-)
Sharon
shawebbATnospamyhc.edu
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Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 18:47:39 +0200
From: Danijel Turina <sinisa.turinaATnospamzg.tel.hr>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Aura colors
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At 21:53 1998.05.24 PDT, you wrote:
>What is your source of a third kind of energy labeled Vajra energy? What
>school is that from?
That is from the school of experience. :)
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E-mail : sinisa.turinaATnospamzg.tel.hr
Homepage: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/1377
Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 11:31:54 -0700
From: Jerry <umbadaATnospamns.sympatico.ca>
To: Jan Barendrecht <janbarenATnospaminfase.es>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: The Force of Self-Realization
Message-ID: <3569B919.4F6FATnospamns.sympatico.ca>
Jan Barendrecht wrote:
> Discussing K. related issues is easy, because it belongs to phenomenology.
> Discussing issues about Self all too easily leads to sterile, useless
> arguments like " Self cannot be attained - it is". It is forgotten that this
> isn't the viewpoint for one who hasn't experienced it and usually the one
> with the argument cites it from a book. IMO this is one thing to be avoided.
> It is also possible that many are perfectly happy with their present status
> of K. and do not want more.
Jan,
Thank you for your input. Certainly, those who are happy with their
present status are free to keep their attention where it is.
>From experience, I have to disagree that discussions of the Self lead to
sterile conclusions. In purely theoretical discussions, yes, you are
correct.
But try having that discussion with an executive at some major
corporation who has the family, the career, the mortgage, the social
imperatives, but who also intuits an inner Self and would like to
approach it in a safe environment with people who understand him or her.
That is attentional work and it never leads to sterile conclusions. This
proposed new list is about real people living real life. Just like the
Kundalini list is. Here we have people talking about Kundalini phenomena
as they occur at work or in bed with their unwitting mates. The same
struggle with The Self, the I Am, occurs at work and in bed. I tell you
from experience, there must be very few places where one can discuss
that without involvement with some Guru or institution of some sort.
I hope you see my point.
> Self-realization will make sex and riches irrelevant, as these things cannot
> add to the experience of everlasting bliss. Because the body has been a
> loyal servant during the spiritual journey and still can serve others (as
> seen from the viewpoint of the others), one will take care of it in a
> responsible but detached way, so it will be slim, strong and healthy. BTW,
> for a Self-realized one there are no others and detachment is a misnomer.
> There is nothing left to detach from (showing how easy it is to get into a
> sterile discussion).
Yes, I see. How do you communicate that to someone so that it is part of
every instant of their life? How do your words actually bring one to the
Self? In other words, you have said it, how do you impart it? That is
the challenge of the proposed new list. The new list will be driven by a
practical, not a theoretical approach. The theoretical approach has a
sterile ending, while the practical deals with the realities of life.
> As K. can be seen as a ticket to bliss everlasting, discussing
> Self-realization in relation to K. would make sense to me. Discussing issues
> about Self only can easily lead to philosophical hairsplitting or
> controversies with other philosophies, as can be witnessed in several NG's.
> As the proper practice with K. by itself will lead the the goal, from this
> perspective non-dualism is but one way to explain one's state. So IMO
> discussion in a K. oriented forum is preferable.
Jan, not everyone approaches The Self from the viewpoint of Kundalini.
There are people who are involved in astrology, for example, who intuit
the Self and would like to approach it. I understand that one really
can't avoid Kundalini since it is Life Force, but not everyone is
interested in the symptoms of Kundalini simply because they do not
experience them. In other words, Kundalini does not have to be grasped
as subject matter in order to approach The Self or I Am.
If anyone is interested in this new list, email Lobster. I am happy to
take any questions or comments privately.
Jerry
Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 14:21:27 -0700
From: Jerry <umbadaATnospamns.sympatico.ca>
To: Gloria Lee <samyanaATnospamhotmail.com>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: The Force of Self-Realization
Message-ID: <3569E0D7.297DATnospamns.sympatico.ca>
Gloria Lee wrote:
> Glo: Seems we have been over this ground before..is why the K-phenom
> list was attempted (and didn't happen to work out?).. people ARE at many
> different levels and find it helpful to be reassured that others also
> experience similar "wierd stuff" tho most experts advise ignoring such.
> IS THIS "REALIZATION" THE REAL PURPOSE OF K?? If so, then such
> discussions of "SELF" are K-related and belong here. If its unwelcome
> here, then ok..let's take it elsewhere.
> My humble opinion is that inclusiveness and variety IS a truly spiritual
> environment. So, it saddens me to see anyone leave or be made to feel
> unwelcome. From beginner to expert..we are one, aren't we? ..even stuff
> posted here that is over my head sorta gives me hope, if nothing else.
> I like to "hang out" here..with ALL of you. <SNIP>
> Jerry wrote such a good question. may we see a response HERE?
Glo:
First, I would like to acknowledge the challenge that Angelique
exquisitely manages in handling this list. Keeping a specific focus
while at the same time being open to all sorts of expression requires a
constant eye on the information exchanged and the ability to deal with
people in appropriate ways.
I think we all agree that not only is she very, very good at that, but
who doubts that Angelique can also single-handedly drive this list with
her intelligence, humor, knowledge, and ability to express herself?
It is not necessarily that easy to get a list started and to grow it and
keep it going. We're fortunate to have this forum to discuss it.
A new list would not be a Kundalini/Inner Self list. It is not the case
that list members will be approaching The Self from the disposition of
Kundalini. Some will. The ones that join the new list from the k-list,
clearly will.
But the members of the new list -- the I AM List, if one cares to call
it that, as someone suggested to me privately -- these members will be
from all sorts of backgrounds, including Kundalini, Astrology, Crystals,
Angels, one form of Buddhism or another, Jane Roberts, Shamanism,
Egyptology, Mental Science... you name it.
Therefore, the new list is not a form of specialization. It is a great
broadening. What will be common, however, among all members is their
desire to turn within to the source of what occupies their attention.
That is what spiritual life is all about.
> >So my question for you -- or anyone -- is "We have some idea of how
> >Kundalini can play itself out in everyday life; how so with knowledge
> of
> >the Self?"
> >
> >That is what people want to know. How is it going to help them become
> >sexier, richer, slimmer, healthier?
> Glo cannot help laughing here, Jer. And all this time I was hoping the
> "Self" did not mind if I was older, fatter. poorer..etc. Now you want
> practical results?? Have a bowl of ice cream and chill out, Jer..
No humor allowed on the new list. :)
Love,
Jerry
Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 15:03:02 EDT
From: Hofe1 <Hofe1ATnospamaol.com>
To: jeannegATnospamicon.net
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Reiki and Kundalini
Message-ID: <9992d6e1.3569c067ATnospamaol.com>
Dear Jean:
Could you please tell me more about Reiki?
Best wishes,
Dave
Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 16:32:33 EDT
From: Harsha1MTM <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com>
To: umbadaATnospamns.sympatico.ca
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: The Force of Self-Realization
Message-ID: <6b107d02.3569d562ATnospamaol.com>
In a message dated 5/24/1998 8:20:11 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
umbadaATnospamns.sympatico.ca writes:
<< Harsha,
Your words make more sense than anything, yet they swerve attention from
kundalini to Self, which apparently is seen to be more dangerous.
Harsha: Why do you say that Jerry? Who sees a post on Self-Realization as
dangerous and why?
Jerry: I have joined a discussion group here in Halifax, Nova Scotia. People
are invited to talk about whatever they wish. And they start-off adamant
about their beliefs and experiences with Kundalini, Christianity, Swami
this or that, Reincarnation, Vibrations, Buddhism, you name it. All that
stuff is fine. The only thing the leaders of the group serve to do is
bring discussion inward, to the Self or the I Am. They do it in a way
such that you hardly know it is being done.
Harsha: Yes. The attention can be directed to the Self. That in itself is
sufficient.
Jerry: Because of the easy-going nature of the group, and because the dynamics
of it turn out to be a form of relaxation or stress reduction, members
return weekly and are actually willing to approach the Self or I Am.
But almost without exception there is expression of fear, apprehension,
doubt, in regard to what group members think will have to be given-up en
route to a communion with or an understanding of the Self or I Am.
(Those who are fearless progress quickly, it is said.)
Harsha: Beautiful. Everything must be given up to enter and know the Primal
Being that You are.
Jerry: The leaders alleviate fear or apprehension simply by being who they
are:
friends, successes in their homes and careers, people you hang-out with.
That demonstration makes the whole spiritual journey seem not only safe
but worthwhile (which many had intuited all along.)
Harsha: Beautiful. Do they offer money also to alleviate the fears of those
who continue to fear?:--). Sorry, I could not resist.
Jerry: So, Harsha, it has become clear to me that while there is great support
in this list for Kundalini, because many have known and studied it and
have incorporated it into their lives -- because it is the Kundalini
List! -- the same support for attentiveness to the Self or I Am is not
so evident.
Harsha: I support you Jerry.
Jerry: Perhaps some list members, while fully knowing of the Self,
have no need to discuss it; perhaps others have yet to see how that
quality of attention becomes integrated into life.
So my question for you -- or anyone -- is "We have some idea of how
Kundalini can play itself out in everyday life; how so with knowledge of
the Self?"
That is what people want to know. How is it going to help them become
sexier, richer, slimmer, healthier?
Harsha: No doubt you ask profound questions Jerry. Indeed, how does Self-
Realization help someone become sexier, richer, slimmer, healthier? Frankly,
I must keep this a secret. It can only be transmitted orally from the Guru to
the Disciple. The tradition I belong to is over 2700 years old (historically
documented). In actuality, it is probably over 8000 years. I am not going to
sell out Jerry. No. No. No. Sorry. You are just going to have lose weight
and make money the old fashioned way.
Jerry: It sounds like selling-out, but, if
I have come to know you at all, what you want to communicate is not
merely a pleasant reading or a few nice thoughts. You want to get down
with The Self like they're getting down with Kundalini. So do I.
Harsha: Get down Jerry? Get down? My disco days are behind me pal. So are
yours until you slim down a bit.
Jerry:
If this is not the place to discuss it, and others are interested,
perhaps we can take it to a newsgroup.
Always,
Jerry
Harsha: Always what Jerry? Love you brother.
_____ >>
Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 23:44:38 +0100
From: "Jan Barendrecht" <janbarenATnospamcorreo.infase.es>
To: <umbadaATnospamns.sympatico.ca>
Cc: <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: RE: The Force of Self-Realization
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Jerry wrote:
>[]
> Jan, not everyone approaches The Self from the viewpoint of Kundalini.
>[]
You are right, many start with meditation and try to proceed from there. In
theory, nirvikalpa samadhi is possible without K. However, as one has the
choice from many existing lists, even one for non-dualism, why add one more?
Just a few of these lists:
A general list for meditation meditationATnospamone.xs4all.nl
For gnosis
gnostic-lifeATnospamoberon.xs4all.nl
Non dualism (advaita) subsribe on
http://www.cco.caltech.edu/~vidya/advaita/
Jan
Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 21:23:43 EDT
From: Harsha1MTM <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com>
To: shawebbATnospamyhc.edu, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: hmmmmmmm
Message-ID: <5706cb96.356a19a0ATnospamaol.com>
In a message dated 5/25/1998 8:53:08 AM Pacific Daylight Time, shawebbATnospamyhc.edu
writes:
Jan: << Because the body has been a
loyal servant during the spiritual journey and still can serve others (as
seen from the viewpoint of the others), one will take care of it in a
responsible but detached way, so it will be slim, strong and healthy.
Sharon: But, if this is so, how come all the statues and pictures of the
Buddha show
a guy who is definitely on the chunky side?
Just wondering....
:-)
Sharon >>
Harsha: Grateful to Sharon for that comment. Every morning, I am able to
clearly see my toes when I stand up straight and look down. There have been
days when I have to strain a bit (pull my tummy in) to see them. Hey, give us
chunky guys a break:--). We are doing the best we can:--).
Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 21:50:50 -0400
From: David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net>
To: Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: hmmmmmmm
Message-ID: <356A1FFA.8DB852D7ATnospammail.snet.net>
Harsha1MTM wrote:
> I am able to
> clearly see my toes when I stand up straight and look down. There have been
> days when I have to strain a bit (pull my tummy in) to see them. Hey, give us
> chunky guys a break:--). We are doing the best we can:--).
Toes are over rated. Lean folk almost never look at their toes.But if you must,
you can always look at someone else's toes.
( I know it's not the same)
Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 22:04:46 -0400
From: "Orea de Sa' Hana" <oreaATnospamerols.com>
To: kl List <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: hmmmmmmm
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Most people have funny looking toes anyway... :-P
Orea
Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 23:03:39 -0400
From: taproot <taprootATnospamma.ultranet.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: unsubscribe
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my apologies, but i did not save unsub instructions.
please assist
thanks, richard
Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 23:09:20 EDT
From: Harsha1MTM <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com>
To: jenny.hillATnospammail.utexas.edu, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Thanks all for your support and a belated delurking
Message-ID: <98a0b51c.356a3261ATnospamaol.com>
In a message dated 5/25/1998 1:27:22 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
jenny.hillATnospammail.utexas.edu writes:
<< I just want to thank all of you,lurkers and nonlurkers, who responded to me
about my "crybaby" post. I dashed that post off to the list in a moment of
being centered in Spirit (maybe the same as "I AM" Harsha? I definitely
want to get in on the "I AM" /Self discussion, by the way!) >>
Harsha: And I certainly hope we will continue to have the I AM/ Self
discussions here on *this list, the K-list* even if another list called I AM
catches on. As Gloria Lee wisely points out, one beauty of the K-list is that
there is a diversity of perspectives and backgrounds. Also we have very
knowledgeable people like Kurt, Jan, Alan, Anandajyoti (where is he?), and
many others who are not only familiar with the traditional literature's but
are able to provide a frame of reference based on their own Kundalini
experiences. I have put forth my views many times on the topic of Shiva and
Shakti. Kundalini Shakti and Self are two sides of the same coin. I know
that they are two ends of the same rope. One may start at either end. At one
level everyone starts simultaneously on both ends. However, due to their
unique paths and major karmic events, individuals identify with either one end
of the rope or the other. The truth is that when Shakti merges with Shiva, it
takes with it the conscious mind. And this merging (which is the true death)
leads to the Emergence and Recognition of Reality which You Truly Are Even
Now. That Reality We call the Self, for the lack of a better term, because
that is what One Truly Is. The Self supports all planes of existence, but It
Self has no support being Self-Existent, Absolutely and Fully Complete. It is
beyond thought and is devoid of all sorrow. It is not what you imagine it to
be. It is only who You Truly Are. I remember that when almost two decades
ago, I opened my eyes after Kevala Nirvikalpa Samadhi, I thought --- It is
only Me. What else did I expect? Then what was obvious became Obvious.
Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 19:17:29 -0700
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: MariAna Mikula <romeATnospamiwaynet.net>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: REMOVE BODY HAIR PERMANENTLY!!
Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980525191729.008e3b20ATnospamdomin8rex.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
the Synchronicity is, this slipped by whilst I was busy depilating the
lower half of my driud last night... LOL! Waxing the "hairy barbarian".
Hey, mebbie I oughta look into this stuff..
At 11:13 AM 25/05/98 -0400, MariAna Mikula wrote:
>GO AWAY - you spammer -GO WAY
>
>
>
Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 21:13:21 -0700
From: Mary Ezzell <maryATnospamsonic.net>
To: maryATnospamsonic.net
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: REMOVE BODY HAIR PERMANENTLY!!
Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980525211312.00d01dc8ATnospampop.sonic.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Of your WHAAT???
< grin >
Mary
At 07:17 PM 5/25/98 -0700, Mystress Angelique Serpent wrote:
>
> the Synchronicity is, this slipped by whilst I was busy depilating the
>lower half of my driud last night... LOL! Waxing the "hairy barbarian".
>Hey, mebbie I oughta look into this stuff..
>
>At 11:13 AM 25/05/98 -0400, MariAna Mikula wrote:
>>GO AWAY - you spammer -GO WAY
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 20:27:34 +0000
From: valerie <madammumATnospamptialaska.net>
To: Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com>
CC: MariAna Mikula <romeATnospamiwaynet.net>, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: REMOVE BODY HAIR PERMANENTLY!!
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MAS: the Synchronicity is, this slipped by whilst I was busy depilating
the
lower half of my driud last night... LOL! Waxing the "hairy barbarian".
Hey, mebbie I oughta look into this stuff..
depilating - decapitating - decaffeinatted -
hey, what's the difference?
heehee!
vc
--
It's never too late to have a happy childhood!
Valerie Cooper
http://geocities.com/SoHo/7982/
Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 05:50:19 EDT
From: Afperry <AfperryATnospamaol.com>
To: janbarenATnospaminfase.es
Cc: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: RE: The Force of Self-Realization
Message-ID: <f245fe4c.356a905cATnospamaol.com>
Dear Jan,
In a message dated 25/5/98 11:44:34 pm, you wrote:
>In theory, nirvikalpa samadhi is possible without K.
Is it? I wonder. Do you mean this literally or do you actually mean without
the individual becoming aware of K activity? This latter I would agree with as
there are many yogis who will testify to that, but the former,
hmmm....................not so sure; don't see how it can happen as I believe
K to be the efficient cause of samadhi.
I would be interested to hear your view on this.
With blessings,
Alan
Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 06:42:16 EDT
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my apologies, but i did not save unsub instructions.
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Patricia
Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 07:30:12 -0500
From: Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic.net>
To: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: RE: The Force of Self-Realization
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Alan (Afperry <AfperryATnospamaol.com>) wrote:
>Dear Jan,
>
>In a message dated 25/5/98 11:44:34 pm, you wrote:
>
>>In theory, nirvikalpa samadhi is possible without K.
>
>Is it? I wonder. Do you mean this literally or do you actually mean without
>the individual becoming aware of K activity? This latter I would agree with as
>there are many yogis who will testify to that, but the former,
>hmmm....................not so sure; don't see how it can happen as I believe
>K to be the efficient cause of samadhi.
It is certainly possible without any overt signs of K. Whether K. is
present without overt signs seems to depend on how you define it.
Love,
Ann
Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 08:45:13 -0400
From: "Orea de Sa' Hana" <oreaATnospamerols.com>
To: valerie <madammumATnospamptialaska.net>, kl List <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: REMOVE BODY HAIR PERMANENTLY!!
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I do know that when I am decaffeinating i do feel decapitated...but then k
sometimes does that too... :-)
Orea
valerie wrote:
> depilating - decapitating - decaffeinatted -
> hey, what's the difference?
> heehee!
> vc
> --
> It's never too late to have a happy childhood!
> Valerie Cooper
> http://geocities.com/SoHo/7982/
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