1998/05/22  09:33  
 kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #394 
  
kundalini-l-d Digest				Volume 98 : Issue 394
 
Today's Topics: 
  Re: Strange Emotion For No Reason     [ Harsha1MTM <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com> ] 
  Re: Strange Emotion For No Reason     [ "Debora A. Orf" <dorf01ATnospammail.win.or ] 
  RE: Aura colors                       [ Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic ] 
  Re: The big one - explosions          [ Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic ] 
  RE: Subconscious pressure             [ "Debora A. Orf" <dorf01ATnospammail.win.or ] 
  Re: Subconscious pressure             [ "Paul West" <paulATnospamstationone.demon. ] 
  Re: Empathy                           [ "Paul West" <paulATnospamstationone.demon. ] 
  Scared/Help                           [ kristin <kristinATnospamaol.com> ] 
  Re: Scared/Help                       [ amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us ] 
  Re: Animal Totems                     [ Coyote Dreamer <shamaneyesATnospamyahoo.co ] 
  Re: Strange Emotion For No Reason     [ "Brent Blalock" <blal0004ATnospammaroon.tc ] 
Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 09:27:34 EDT 
From: Harsha1MTM <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com> 
To: blal0004ATnospammaroon.tc.umn.edu, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com 
Subject: Re: Strange Emotion For No Reason 
Message-ID: <12d624dc.35657d47ATnospamaol.com> 
 
In a message dated 5/22/1998, 1:41:18 AM, blal0004ATnospammaroon.tc.umn.edu writes: 
<<The strangest thing happened while I was talking to him.  I was overwhelmed 
with some powerful emotion.  It was a positive emotion, but I don't know 
which one it was.  It was a nice day.  I was listening to their music and 
liking it.  I thought to myself once or twice, "I'd like to sit here for 
about an hour or two and listen to their music and enjoy the weather."  I 
really doubt that I was overwhelmed by their love for me, because all they 
did was try to sell me their books.  But several times during the 
conversation, I had to fight back tears.  I didn't even know if I could stop 
myself from breaking out in tears.
 
I held out, though.  When I was done talking to them, I went to a nearby 
bathroom and cried and cried.
 
In a dream once, I entered an apartment.  In one room there was an Indian 
guru-type.  I sat down on the bed he was sitting on.  When I did, I felt a 
strong emotion.  I don't know which one it was either.  It felt good.  It 
sort of made want to cry.  He told me, "It's time for you to go home."  I 
felt like he was referring to more of a spiritual "return home" than a 
physical one.
 
I'm not sure, but I think what I felt with the Hare Krishnas was the same as 
the feeling in my dream.  I don't understand why I felt that way and I don't 
understand why it was them that made me feel like that.  I mean...  they 
were just trying to sell me stuff.
 
I suspect/hope that there are people on the list who have had some 
experience with feelings and experiences like this one.  Who can provide 
some kind of insight into the situation? 
>> 
Harsha: Brent you are a seeker. You have been on the spiritual path many times 
before. And now once again you are realizing the nature of your journey. Many 
different emotions will come and go. You will find your place. 
Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 08:49:01 -0500 (CDT) 
From: "Debora A. Orf" <dorf01ATnospammail.win.org> 
To: Brent Blalock <blal0004ATnospammaroon.tc.umn.edu> 
cc: Kundalini - L <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com> 
Subject: Re: Strange Emotion For No Reason 
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On Fri, 22 May 1998, Brent Blalock wrote:
 
> I suspect/hope that there are people on the list who have had some 
> experience with feelings and experiences like this one.  Who can provide 
> some kind of insight into the situation?
 
the ISKCON people are cool! My husband and i like to go their restaurant 
anyway. Unlike certain Christian sects, they think dancing is part of 
worship and they all seem like they are very happy. (read if i wasnt a 
buddhist theres a good chance i'd be involved w/them :) )
 
We attended one of their public sunday services one time, it was fun. my 
own buddhist practises can be rather on the 'somber/serious/ascetic' end 
sometimes. They have a good 'feel' to them. 
 
As for strange emotions with "no" reason, i can think of one good example.
 
When i met my Lama, Khenpo Gyurmed Trinley Rinpoche, it was at a public 
talk. I think he was teaching on the three jewels, whatever it was, i 
forgot about it because of what happened next.  He had made a rather funny 
remark and was laughing, i started laughing with him. Next thing i know, 
he's in  my head. i had a sense of him looking out through my eyes. i felt 
my eyes get big with a bit of surprise, and i started to get scared "He's 
in my head!" was what i was thinking. There was a withdrawal (so i 
thought) and i kept pondering what happened the rest of the evening.  The 
next time i met him, he gave me a transmission for a practise, and in the 
following weeks i have this person i cant get out of my mind. I'm 
beginning to think i'm going crazy. I dont know this Lama, why do i feel 
so strongly attracted to him? I keep questioning my heart's reactions, and 
the other strange things that started happening. Finally i wrote him a 
long letter about every incident i could recall, i think he called me on 
the phone the same day he recieved the letter, very happy :). 
 
i do believe serendipity is the most underrated force in the universe. 
Everything plays out like its supposed too. Me thinks we are right where 
we are supposed to be. 
 
Connections aplenty out there, who knows when they trigger? But they do :)
 
Surfs up!
 
Maitri,
 
--janpa 
Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 09:08:06 -0500 
From: Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic.net> 
To: "Jan Barendrecht" <janbarenATnospamcorreo.infase.es> 
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com 
Subject: RE: Aura colors 
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Jan!
 
>It is likely that even the perception of the chakras themselves is 
>subjective. Not all systems acknowledge the same amount of chakras and the 
>only reason for this is perception. At the time when I should have seen 
>them, I wasn't aware of the fact that chakras could be visible and I didn't 
>see them. Instead, I saw pictures, like the one with twelve blue snakes with 
>a golden head.
 
Did you keep a record of the pictures?  I'd love to see them, or read a 
description of them.
 
>With the proper concentration on breathing and the flow in 
>the nadis, the light-intensity of the golden heads could be increased. This 
>practice had to be continued until the golden heads intensified to a point 
>where they all merged. It meant the start of a new stage, presenting another 
>picture or sometimes none.
 
No pictures for some? Was there something else?
 
Love, 
Ann
 
P.S. I tend to see energy going up my body in different pathways as 
serpents of one sort or another - or at least I did, haven't lately.  When 
I was getting into the violet, one day the serpents were going up, and this 
small violet snake started up my front.  I said, "Oh, it's a violet snake!" 
It stopped, right in my pubis.  I thought maybe I had offended it.  I said, 
"Oh, please come on up.  I didn't mean to startle you.  I LOVE violet 
snakes.  Please come up."  So pretty soon it did. 
Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 09:20:04 -0500 
From: Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic.net> 
To: Paul West <paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk> 
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com 
Subject: Re: The big one - explosions 
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Hi Paul! 
> 
>Hmm. In some way, there was almost a sexuality about the beings, this 
>golden one and the one that drove the van later on. It was like it was 
>almost sensual, exciting, deeply personal and interweaving. But it was 
>not like lusty stuff. I'm not promiscuous so perhaps this is me own 
>interpretation. 
> 
I find K. very sexual, but not everyone does.  Muktananda in his 
autobiography talks about going through a sexual period, which embarrassed 
him horribly because he was celibate and thought he would never again have 
anything to do with sex.  He finally got through it and didn't seem to find 
it sexual after that, but it looks to me like he repressed that - instead 
of feeling sexual, he was spending hours roaring like a tiger with his 
tongue stuck all the way out. :))
 
Sexual energy is a natural part of the world, and I just accept it.  We 
talk a lot about kriyas; they  feel sexual to me,  and some are like 
orgasm.  Why feel embarrassed or guilty about what you do when you're 
alone?  Or with a spiritual guide?  Or with a living guru whose physical 
body is far away?  If the guru merges with you for shaktipat and it feels 
good, is that bad?  I don't think so.
 
>[What happened next in the experience] 
>> You have been through an initiation, Paul, a change in consciousness, 
>> through the grace of your golden guru.  He merged with you and ran a lot of 
>> energy up you, opening up the vertical pathway. 
> 
>That seems to make sense. This entity is my guru?
 
Or guide or teacher or spiritual guru or spiritual guide.
 
>I have not seen him 
>in the same form since. Could he have taken on other appearances?
 
Sure.  Or maybe more than one is working with you. 
> 
>> BTW, did you ask anyone, incarnate or non-, for help? 
> 
>Well, the time that this first big experience happened I was getting 
>seriously involved in the possibility of being abducted, and the 
>people that were supposedly doing the abducting were on some kind of 
>`other side'. I reached out to them a lot, asking for a sign, wanting 
>to meet them and stuff. I did meet them in dreams a few times. I was 
>also trying to reach out to a spirit guide, and doing a tremendous 
>amount of mental inquisition into all sorts of radica possible 
>realities.
 
Hmm, sounds like you were asking for help in all directions.  Well, you got 
it!! :)) 
> 
>> >By way of his own looking I followed his gaze to see a 
>> >pregnant woman and a small alien-looking humanoid with white skin and 
>> >a big head putting its hand onto the stomach area - and it was glowing 
>> >from the inside out. 
>> 
>> A pregnant woman can be a symbol that something new is about to be born. 
>> You've related the aliens to soul/spirit, "souls or something."  And the 
>> new thing in the stomach was glowing!! Wonderful!!  You, of course. :)) 
> 
>Yes I figured it must have something to do with me. Perhaps that it 
>was me to be incarnated, me to be born.
 
Maybe, but what I meant is that you were being born!  Reborn!  In this 
life!  In the old Mysteries they referred to unitiated people as "mortals" 
and the initiated as "the twice-born."
 
>> Wouldn't you like to get to the point where the 
>> express 
>> train can come through and you just enjoy it thoroughly? 
> 
>Maybe.
 
Well, I enjoy a lot of energy, a lot of power, but to each his own.  I also 
find it good to know that I'll have more power to help other people.
 
Love, 
Ann 
Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 09:24:11 -0500 (CDT) 
From: "Debora A. Orf" <dorf01ATnospammail.win.org> 
To: Jan Barendrecht <janbarenATnospaminfase.es> 
cc: amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com 
Subject: RE: Subconscious pressure 
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pressure....
 
building 
pounding
 
the workman inside  
sweatingly  
placing the scaffolds.
 
Thought seeds shoot vines 
along the framework.
 
The Green Girl brings 
her watering can,
 
and the Red One absorbs 
the excess.
 
Yellow sun shines on leaves,
 
cycling the seasons of change.
 
AngelSnake laughs, molding the ether
 
Winddancer tacks the  
movement of 
ocean.
 
the blue-white firelight of stars
 
nova into the dark still night.
 
reaching the limit of passions
 
fusioncenterfire
 
summersaults.
 
AngelSnake and Winddancer 
 
in the balance of compassion 
 
and 
 
wisdom.
 
--janpa 
Date: 22 May 98 15:04:43 +0000 
From: "Paul West" <paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: Subconscious pressure 
Message-Id: <3565940B.MD-0.196.paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk> 
 
Jan,
 
> few years ago I was approached by a big drunk who had only one goal: 
> processing me into minced meat. Any action (talking included) would have 
> triggered him into action. So I did nothing - not moving one muscle of my 
> face. The man became more and more furious, banging a wall, trying to induce 
> fear. Then, he started using abusive language like filthy Tibetan. This made 
> me almost laugh but I could suppress it. By now, the man was out of means to 
> provoke and went away, demolishing objects on his way. One doesn't have to 
> be empathic to defuse situations like the above - a cool mind and a warm 
> heart, plus the enhanced creativity and imagination that K. brings should 
> do.
 
Jan this is wonderful.
 
I have seen myself in a few situations that when people get worked up 
they are essentially afraid, and they are looking to other people for 
stability, for a solid reference point. When they have lost 
self-control they secretly look to others to provide it. If that other 
person lets themself be an outlet for the person's anger it just 
doesn't help. What they want is to be reminded of what is real, of 
what is calm and loving. Certainly getting afraid doesn't help matters 
nor does doing anything that might provoke a further collapse in the 
person's integrity.
 
Many people don't have much self control and it becomes real easy for 
them to break down if they are not around good people, people who do 
not let them down when they need them. And in a way it is a let down 
and irresponsibility not to provice a solid grounding in reality for 
other people. I recall one case at work where a friend was losing 
control due to work pressures. If I had been a different person, if I 
was less in control myself, he would have slipped real far. But 
instead I stood up for being calm and collected and it kind of 
prevented him from getting too out of touch. I looked and I saw in 
amongst his fears a very quick, almost subconscious glance from him 
which was like a test, him sort of testing my attitude towards him. 
The last thing a person wants or needs when they're upset is somebody 
donig anything nasty to them, even if they have done something wrong 
themselves. And when sometimes I myself was in a bit of a bad mood, 
unhappy for whatever reason, other people seemed to find it 
contageous, much harder to retain their own self control. Sometime 
they were real good at it, but if they themselves had some problems it 
spiralled down much faster if I or someone else wasn't there rooted in 
reality. I kind of feel that the time I spent at my last place of 
employment taught a number of people to be calmer and to have more 
respect for themselves. At least I hope that is what happened. But 
even I know that I sometimes need somebody.
 
-- 
Paul.
 
IRC: #amiga, Dalnet: #blitz 
WWW: http://www.stationone.demon.co.uk 
E-M: paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk 
Date: 22 May 98 15:51:08 +0000 
From: "Paul West" <paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: Empathy 
Message-Id: <35659ADD.MD-0.196.paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk> 
 
Hi Antoine,
 
I have been thinking more about empathy just lately, now that people 
have put a ton of ideas into my head.
 
I have been thinking of the way other people appear to me. I wonder if 
it is ever at all possible to see anything other than yourself. If I 
see a person and I feel a dislike, maybe it is because I would not 
like to be that person, or that I am not alike that person. It doesn't 
really matter if I personally have a wonderful personality or a really 
bad one, it seems that my relationship with all other people depends 
entirely on who and what I am at the time.
 
There was a girl where I used to work who I didn't like very much. I 
felt she was very insensitive and she liked to be tuff and hard and 
advocated violence. She liked to have fights with other blokes, and 
talked of how she liked to get men under her thumb and how she knew 
how to get to a bloke. I did not like this. I believe then that this 
means I am not /alike/ this, it is not an ideal I can relate to, and 
that this is why when presented with it I am presented with the face 
of my attitude towards such things. I wonder if hate has a place in 
love - to reject anything that is not virtuous and joyous.
 
Anyway, I wondered, if maybe I beleived that her ideals were right 
then probably I would not dislike her or feel threatened by her. Who 
she is and so on is just an example, this is not specific to her.  It 
applies to everyone. I would say that the task is to establish a 
righteous set of ideals and priorities in order for one to have the 
proper view of things which are not right. Wether one is enlightened 
or not does not deter the rule from applying, that if you believe for 
example that violence is wrong then you will dislike it when you see 
it - you choose for it to be something you will dislike. But by 
dislike i do not entirely mean a radical emotional outburst of a major 
psychological backlash. I'm talking of neutrality, and when you just 
observe without comment. Maybe the whole `taking offence' thing is 
just a play of emotions. I wonder if there is any thing alike what it 
means to be free of that offendability. Probably not, but I should 
like to be there.
 
I suppose that fundamentally one is faced with the consequences of 
one's chosen beliefs. If one has an appreciation of beauty pershaps 
one will not be fond of ego-creations. And the question is, should a 
person be fond of ego? It is perhaps enough to just see truthfully 
what ego is, not wether to see that it is true or false. If you look 
truthfully at something you see the true nature of it, even if that 
means seeing that in truth the given thing is a falsety, an illusion, 
a deception or a selfishness. Even though one might look upon a 
murderor in a truthful way, this does not necessarily alter the fact 
that there is something in that murderor which is alien to the /ideal/ 
of a more holistic lifestyle. Evil exists in the world. I suppose you 
could say that being `All' would mean having to be evil, but we also 
have to remove the seperation between good and bad so it doesn't look 
like evil anymore anyway. I dunno.
 
I think maybe with me it is a case of being ideological and having 
high standards set for myself. It is not enough for me to just be part 
of the game, I feel that I want to attain some kind of spiritual 
height. It is all very well being evil or egotistical, some people 
actually seem to like it, and I don't refuse that it exists nor do I 
particularly want to turn my eyes away not to see it. But if truth be 
known I do not want to have anything to do with it. I don't mind 
observing it detatched, but I don't want to interact with it. I feel 
it is probably when I am forced to interact with it that I start to 
become pressured and start to feel corrupt. Maybe there is an element 
of sacrifice in this.
 
I think that the way I react to other people is entirely dictated by 
whatever ideals or beliefs I have about things. Maybe I am up for the 
good life. Maybe I like to be comfortable. Maybe I like things which 
will last and which will please the senses. And maybe it is because of 
this that I have that so-called empathy - to see unpleasant emotions 
and attitudes in others as something that is wrong and something I 
dislike. I suppose I am growing to accept those things with time. But 
maybe it is a type of personality more than a true transcendence. I 
must admit I like the appearance of hills and valleys more than I like 
flat ground.
 
I am not sure that really I am done with physical life. I think 
perhaps that I am half done with it. I am not completely with it but 
not completely against it either. I seem to have kind of a cross 
between heaven and earth, an ideological attempt to do and be the 
things in physical life which are alike or are related to truths and 
ways of being in spirit.
 
I am unsure entirely why, but I do not have very much attraction 
towards other people. I know that in this modern age it is a case of 
having to be heterosexual or homosexual or a bit of both, but what 
about when you're just not very into any of it? I don't get turned on 
by other blokes. But I don't seem to get turned on by women either. 
Generally with me it is hard to get worked up about anything. A 
blessing but maybe also a curse. Love for me is not on so much of a 
physical level. I kind of like amoure, sort of romance, a magical 
almost angelic, perhaps archetypcal relationship. The oneness of man 
and the oneness of woman. The ideal of both at their best. I find it 
hard to see such a thing in my fellow humans. I hope that doesn't 
sound patronising or anything. I just can't relate to lust or 
promiscuity.
 
Does any of this make sense to you?
 
-- 
Paul.
 
IRC: #amiga, Dalnet: #blitz 
WWW: http://www.stationone.demon.co.uk 
E-M: paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk 
Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 11:05:10 EDT 
From: kristin <kristinATnospamaol.com> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Scared/Help 
Message-ID: <2a31809e.35659427ATnospamaol.com> 
 
For sometime, I thought I was reaching the light at the end of the tunnel, and 
so on, but recently, it seems like I have fallen back down to the bottom. This 
time though I question my strength to find my way out. I feel lost in my own 
world, my own body. I am not sure about anything, I more than confused. I am 
also so scared. I do not know anymore. 
I keep trying to remember the way I felt when I saw the light, and so on, but 
I cannot find it, I have no clue where it has gone, or where I am going. I am 
so scared. 
Kristin 
Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 10:29:30 -0600 
From: amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: Scared/Help 
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>For sometime, I thought I was reaching the light at the end of the tunnel, and 
>so on, but recently, it seems like I have fallen back down to the bottom. This 
>time though I question my strength to find my way out. I feel lost in my own 
>world, my own body. I am not sure about anything, I more than confused. I am 
>also so scared. I do not know anymore. 
>I keep trying to remember the way I felt when I saw the light, and so on, but 
>I cannot find it, I have no clue where it has gone, or where I am going. I am 
>so scared. 
>Kristin
 
I have been there. This could be a time for you of just letting go of the 
questing for a while. For a while I just had to quit trying to figure 
things out, and just live the best way I knew how. Being involved in action 
helped to distract me from my overactive monkey mind. I got up early and 
made my kids breakfast, I baked the neighbors cookies, washed the dishes, 
did the laundry, etc. "Chop wood, carry water" as they say. Concentrating 
on the doing of mundane things can ground and calm you. Look around and see 
what needs to be done. Clean out a closet... There will be time later to 
return to your quest for the light. It will always be there waiting for 
you. No hurries, no worries.
 
This is what helped me. Others may give different advice. Take what works 
and leave the rest :)
 
ALL WILL BE WELL, 
amckeon 
Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 09:00:21 -0700 (PDT) 
From: Coyote Dreamer <shamaneyesATnospamyahoo.com> 
To: faithATnospammail.phoenix.net 
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: Animal Totems 
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Hi Faith!
 
Sorry it has taken so long for me to respond, I have not been able to 
access my email.  To answer your question, begin by examining the 
animals you like and admire.  Often, the temperment and personality of 
the animal will give you clues, and you'll find yourself more 
attracted to animals you resonate with.  You need to look at not just 
the physical characteristics of the  animal but the emotional and 
symbolic natures as well.  And you may be surprised when you receive 
confirmation from your animal totem that he/she is in fact with you.  
When I was discovering Coyote, I began to notice significant 
synchronicity of events.  For instance, I was at work and things were 
slow, so I began reading any information I could find on Coyote on the 
net, and  
after I had discovered several mythological and scientific references 
I went home to meditate on Coyote and asked him to appear before me if 
he would assist me in my spiritual quest.  The mental imagery received 
assured me that our relationship was well underway.  Later that night 
I was cutting my hair with new electric clippers, and in two distinct 
places the clippers cut patterns that looked like claw marks from a 
paw.  After this, I happened to be flipping through the channels on 
the TV and lo and behold I flipped to a special on Coyotes which 
grabbed my attention by describing the mystical aspects of Coyotes in 
Native American lore.  So you see, a little contemplation is often 
necessary to really hear your heart, and if you truly seek to know 
yourself you shall, because even a single trail of water followed can 
lead to a gushing stream, so begin with the small things.
 
A great book that you might consider while contemplating the animal 
kingdom -- "Animal Speak" by Ted Andrews.  
 
Take care,
 
Coyote
 
---Faith <faithATnospammail.phoenix.net> wrote: 
> 
> Coyote Dreamer wrote: 
> >  
> > ---Faye Fontenot <faithATnospammail.phoenix.net> wrote: 
> >  
> > > hello; 
> > > I am new to this mailing list could you tell me what do you mean 
> > > by animal totum?.......Thanks.....Blessing...Faye 
> > > 
> >  
> > Hi Faye! 
> >  
> > When I speak of animal totems, I am refering to a component of 
> > shamanism (are you familiar with shamanism?  Not directly related to 
> > Kundalini, but I would be happy to explain it to you).  Totems are 
> > guides that we all commune with, although most do it subconsciously. 
> > In shamanic lore, Totems represent aspects of ourselves and lessons 
> > that are coming to the fore.  Totems change over the course of our 
> > lives, as one integrates their lessons and progresses.  Some totems, 
> > which are known as power animals, stay for one or many lifetimes. 
> > Power animals represent one's perception of life and the general 
angle 
> > of interaction with others.  For example, Praying Mantis represents 
> > the power of stillness, of acting with deliberation, and of simply 
> > quieting the mind and just 'being'. 
> >  
> > -- Coyote 
> >  
> > > 
> > > Coyote Dreamer wrote: 
> >  
> > > > As for my namesake, Coyote (the fabled Trickster´ in shamanic 
lore) 
> > > > first nipped at me when a shamanic friend of mine caught him 
peeking 
> > > > over my shoulder.  He told me that I  didn´t want him´ right 
now as 
> > > > my totem (or power animal as they are known), because I was 
> > rejecting 
> > > > him in favor of an ego-produced Eagle or Owl spirit, which I 
thought 
> > > > were more suited´  to my personality and characteristics.  I 
> > learned 
> > > > a valuable lesson that day  that one must strip away the mask 
to 
> > > > realize the true face underneath.  If one does not, then one 
will 
> > > > never see past the particular facade displayed.   As for 
Dreamer, 
> > take 
> > > > a guess  you are correct! 
> > > > 
> >  
> > == 
> > "I Cherish the Twilight, 
> >  I Maximize, my Soul is the Right Size. 
> >  I Watch for the Power to Run out on the Moon, 
> >  and that'll be Sometime Soon..." 
> >  
> >                       -- De La Soul 
> >  
> > _________________________ 
> > DO YOU YAHOO!? 
> > Get your free ATnospamyahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com 
> hello, 
> I hope you don't mine but how do you know what your totum is? 
> I have suppected my to be a great great big golden,and I mean great 
big 
> snake.How can I know for sure? 
>  
> Thanks and blessings,Faye 
> 
 
== 
"I Cherish the Twilight, 
 I Maximize, my Soul is the Right Size. 
 I Watch for the Power to Run out on the Moon, 
 and that'll be Sometime Soon..."
 
 -- De La Soul
 
_________________________ 
DO YOU YAHOO!? 
Get your free ATnospamyahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com 
Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 11:07:05 -0500 
From: "Brent Blalock" <blal0004ATnospammaroon.tc.umn.edu> 
To: "Harsha1MTM" <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com> 
Cc: "Kundalini - L" <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com> 
Subject: Re: Strange Emotion For No Reason 
Message-ID: <005901bd859e$e8da75c0$933c5ea0ATnospammaroon.tc.umn.edu.tc.umn.eduumn.edu> 
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-----Original Message----- 
From: Harsha1MTM <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com> 
To: Brent L Blalock <blal0004ATnospammaroon.tc.umn.edu>; 
kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com> 
Date: Friday, May 22, 1998 8:27 AM 
Subject: Re: Strange Emotion For No Reason
 
>Harsha: Brent you are a seeker. You have been on the spiritual path many 
times 
>before. And now once again you are realizing the nature of your journey. 
Many 
>different emotions will come and go. You will find your place.
 
Rad.
 
 
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