1998/05/06  15:23  
 kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #357 
  
kundalini-l-d Digest				Volume 98 : Issue 357
 
Today's Topics: 
  Dream (experience sharing, K-related  [ Delirium <deliriumATnospamfull-moon.com> ] 
  Unidentified subject!                 [ 89722a <89722aATnospammsn.com> ] 
  Uncontrollable                        [ WHYASK <WHYASKATnospamaol.com> ] 
  Kundlini fire for burning calories    [ trexisATnospamjuno.com ] 
  Re: Re: Chakral Sanskrit              [ Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iis ] 
  Fw: Shit Happens                      [ "Sandeep Chatterjee" <sandeepcATnospambom3 ] 
  Re. Chakral Sanskrit                  [ Afperry <AfperryATnospamaol.com> ] 
  RE: Parallel processing               [ Tom_I_BradleyATnospamEURO.CCMAIL.compuserv ] 
  Re: Dream (experience sharing, K-rel  [ hbarrettATnospamix.netcom.com (Holly N. Ba ] 
  Re: Re: RE: Kuthumi                   [ Harsha1MTM <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com> ] 
  The goal                              [ Danijel Turina <sinisa.turinaATnospamzg.te ] 
  Re: The goal                          [ Harsha1MTM <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com> ] 
  Re: The goal                          [ Danijel Turina <sinisa.turinaATnospamzg.te ] 
  Re: Uncontrollable                    [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpent ] 
  Re: Near-Death Experience             [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpent ] 
  body spell.Was:Kundalini fire for bu  [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpent ] 
Date: Tue, 05 May 1998 22:54:34 +0100 
From: Delirium <deliriumATnospamfull-moon.com> 
To: Kundalini-l <Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com> 
Subject: Dream (experience sharing, K-related I think!) 
Message-ID: <354F8A5C.A53E008AATnospamfull-moon.com> 
 
Something I think important and a signal that things are finally "moving" 
again in me happened last night and today. I had been in an odd space for some 
time...(since Princess Diana's death to be exact...and I haven't been able to 
quite figure why her death had such a profound effect, other than her being so 
well known round the world, or the fact that she was several years younger 
than me and such a controversial figure, a woman in a very visible position, 
yet vulnerable as hell)
 
The apparent K-activity was strong in November and December, but has tapered 
off as far as I can tell until now. I have been "coasting" and doing things 
that were meant to take the edge off...(too much drink, etcetera) and reaching 
the point where I was soo bored and tired of my work and my "free 
time"...anyway...and with help from Jeanne Garner I have also been practicing self-healing...so...
 
Last night, I had a dream that helped me sort out some of the questions I have 
been posing to myself and to this list.
 
In this dream, in Victorian times, in England I think; I was a young woman 
named Molly, and I lived with a sister and our mother in a house on the sea, 
at the very tip of a causeway.
 
A ship came suddenly, out of control, and destroyed the house. My sister and 
myself were the only survivors, we could not warn or find our mother and 
had to leave or be killed.
 
A result of the accident, I was blinded; but the strange thing was that 
I was not actually blind, I just seemed and acted blind. I knew that I 
could see, but I was for all intents and purposes unable to. I 
was acting as though I was helpless when in reality I was not.
 
Through a series of coincidences, I happened across a bank in our small 
town that was just being closed down, in fact it was the final day for 
all the bank's employees. The man who was closing down the bank was the 
man who piloted the ship that had destroyed my home...an old man with a gray 
"villain" handlebar moustache..and he saw me, possibly recognizing 
me, so I left (still "blind")...just down the street was another 
establishment that I made my way to using my stick (which was incidentally the 
only thing in the dream that I could actually NOT see!) I spoke to a helpful 
man at 
the door of this establishment and explained that the man who had shut 
down the little bank around the corner was also the man who was 
responsible for my blindness. The villain came out of the door of the 
establishment and my friend signaled for me to be quiet...
 
As I turned and made my way back down the main street of the small town, 
there was a traffic accident blocking my way and I was "happy" that I 
was blind and could not see it. I would not have to help, I supposed...
 
****
 
I had asked goddess for an answer to my job problems and I think this dream is 
at least PART of the answer.
 
I believe this dream illustrates the "turning a blind eye" that I have 
been doing for several years, working for "a livelihood" in a business that is 
not conducive to progress for females. In the dream, I am playing a victim who 
is not 
actually a victim at all, but is just going along with the victim act at 
her own expense...having lost touch with her mother, who she sees as a 
victim as well, having given up her vision for imagined peace...but she 
keeps running into the same  villain in symbolic form as an "old boy" -- 
how she sees male-dominated business...without being honest and doing 
what she knows she can do, which is to reveal that she actually *has* 
vision after all and she knows what is the cause of her "blindness."
 
Squelching or suppressing the energy that I know is actually there? The 
K-energy that gives passion and compassion...
 
Not profound, perhaps, but a good answer, that I know the answer and 
have, all along, and that I can keep turning a blind eye and playing 
victim or I can do something for myself.
 
FWIW...Bright blessings...Delirium 
Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 23:07:24 -0500 (CDT) 
From: 89722a <89722aATnospammsn.com> 
To: <kstradfATnospamamerican.edu> 
Subject: Unidentified subject! 
Message-Id: <19943672.886214ATnospamrelay.comanche.denmark.eu> Friday, May 29th, 1998
 
Authenticated sender is <89722aATnospammsn.com> 
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Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 01:50:23 EDT 
From: WHYASK <WHYASKATnospamaol.com> 
To: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Uncontrollable 
Message-ID: <177a3a5a.354ffa20ATnospamaol.com> 
 
Everytime I close my eyes I see a bright red color, it is very strong, at 
points I can feel heat in my eyes. At other times though I see a very light 
blue color, almost sky blue, what is all these colors about that I am seeing?  
I have also been having a really hard time with something else. I feel like 
someone else is controlling my body, not me, like a foriegn body. It is really 
strange, and hurts. This other thing in my body makes me feel uncontrollable, 
almost like I am losing my mind. It scares me, it is so powerful, and I feel 
like I cant do anything to stop this forgein body. Do you have any clue what 
this maybe? 
Lost and Wondering, 
Kristin 
Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 04:16:56 -0400 
From: trexisATnospamjuno.com 
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com 
Subject: Kundlini fire for burning calories 
Message-ID: <19980506.042716.11982.0.trexisATnospamjuno.com>
 
Well it makes a lot of sense to me.  I'm one of those naturally skinny 
people who's weight hasn't fluctuated more than two pounds in a decade.  
I simply have a rather amped metabolism.  I eat anything, and all the 
time just to keep going.  I don't get hunger pains, but If I fail to feed 
my face when my apetite demands, I get faint, shakey, 
or simply collapse.  I have met a lot of overweight people who ate little 
and grew regardless.  A metabolic shift from activated kundalini could be 
a very effective 
means of changing weight.  But kundalini is the spark of the devine sown 
in the body 
and it's sprout and growth is the result of the conscious or unconscious 
desire to reunite with the rest of divinity, not simple physique change.  
Although I am conscious of the many physical changes people have wilfully 
made in their bodies with the help of kundalini,I wouldn't be surprised 
if an attempt to ignite the k fire for ulterior purposes would fail.
 
[Seek ye first the kingdom of God(ess) and hir righteousness, 
And all these things shall be added unto you.]  -Jesus
 
Trying to get his own priorities straight 
Edward
 
>LOL!  Any overweight (and under or average weight) person knows this -  
>we're 
>not stuuuupid!   The dilemma is in being unable to do this.....  
>looking 
>outside ourselves over and over and over for this or that food to  
>*fix* us, to 
>reduce the food outside ourselves, to help us lose weight.  It makes  
>only 
>sense (and right now just a thought) to go inside ourselves  
>(activating k??) 
>for the answers./
 
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Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 14:47:46 +0530 (IST) 
From: Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iisc.ernet.in> 
To: Afperry <AfperryATnospamaol.com> 
cc: anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iisc.ernet.in, Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re:  Re: Chakral Sanskrit 
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.93.980506144656.28432A-100000ATnospamBhaskara> 
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
 
Quite True
 
Love, 
anurag 
       
On Tue, 5 May 1998, Afperry wrote:
 
>  
> In a message dated 5/5/98 7:45:11 pm, you wrote: 
>  
> >As far as I know i think when valmiki started reciting the mantra as 
> >    MARA it naturally led him to recite correctly RAMA. Surely the 
> >    correction would have been possible due to his love towards divine. 
> >    also if one speells MARA backwards it leads to one reciting RAMA. 
>  
> As I recall the story, it was by chanting it quickly forwards that MARA 
> naturally became RAMA i.e.   ....... 
> MARAMARAMARAMARAMARAMA....................... 
>  
> Blessings, 
> Alan 
>  
Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 16:24:40 +0530 
From: "Sandeep Chatterjee" <sandeepcATnospambom3.vsnl.net.in> 
To: <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com> 
Subject: Fw: Shit Happens 
Message-ID: <01bd78dd$5e926580$770036caATnospamdefault> 
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-----Original Message----- 
From: Sandeep Chatterjee <sandeepcATnospambom3.vsnl.net.in> 
To: Robert Fox <foxman3ATnospamearthlink.net> 
Date: Wednesday, May 06, 1998 03:35 PM 
Subject: Re: Shit Happens
 
> 
>Hello Robert 
> 
> 
> 
>>PLEASE REMOVE ME FROM YOUR LIST. 
> 
> 
>First of all you are not on my List. I don't have any. 
> 
>If you are on the Kudalini List and have been offended by my ramblings, you 
>need to go to the List Mistress and ask me to be thrown out of the 
Kundalini 
>List (grin) 
> 
>It would be very interesting to know just what exactly was your objection. 
> 
>Is it the word "Shit"? 
>The word signifies something which is a very significant part of our life, 
>almost approaching holiness. Would you disagree? 
> 
>Just try not to shit one day and the "shitiness" of Life becomes evident. 
> 
>Have a good, solid one and see Life smelling like roses. 
> 
>All Truth of Life is just a question of the quality and quantity of a 
single 
>crap. 
> 
>Just so that there could be others who have felt like you evidently did, I 
>am posting this also on to the Kundalini List 
> 
> 
>LOL 
> 
> 
>Sandeep 
>> 
>>At 11:10 PM 5/4/98 +0530, you wrote: 
>>>ROTFLMAO 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>Shit Happens In Various World Religions 
>>> 
>>>Taoism:         Shit happens. 
>>>                If you can shit, it isn't shit. 
>>>                Shit happens, so flow with it. 
> 
> 
Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 07:15:08 EDT 
From: Afperry <AfperryATnospamaol.com> 
To: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re. Chakral Sanskrit 
Message-ID: <1fc732c0.3550463eATnospamaol.com> 
 
Dear List,
 
Thank you all who have responded to my original post on this. However, no one 
was familiar with the specific teaching that the Sanskrit alphabet derives 
from the 'petals' of the chakras. I have at last managed to track down 
something more on this, this time from Paramahansa Yogananda's monumental 
commentary on the Bhagavad Gita called 'God Talks With Arjuna', p. 131:
 
"In  a highly simplified description, it may be said that the fifty letters or 
sounds of the Sanskrit alphabet are on the petals of the sahasrara and that 
each alphabetical vibration in turn is connected with a specific petal on the 
lotuses in the spinal centers (which have a total of fifty corresponding 
petals...). 'Petals' mean rays or vibrations."  A sub-note then adds:" 
Actually, the sounds are synonymous with the petals i.e. vibratory powers. The 
fifty letters or sounds, in multiples of twenty, equal the one thousand petals 
of the sahasara."
 
Lahiri Mahasaya drew a chart of this system as he perceived it, and this chart 
is included in the Gita commentary.
 
With blessings, 
Alan 
Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 08:51:15 -0400 
From: Tom_I_BradleyATnospamEURO.CCMAIL.compuserve.com 
To: "INTERNET:kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com" <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com> 
Subject: RE: Parallel processing 
Message-ID: <199805060851_MC2-3C14-283ATnospamcompuserve.com> 
 
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Shit!  I must have hurt his feelings!  Can't a guy take a little humour?  My 
thoughtless sarcastic aside must have preyed 
on his mind until, finally, he could take no more, he had to quit, but before he 
did, he left a note, so that we'd all know 
who was responsible. (sob!)  How can I face you all again? 
Tom
 
PLEASE REMOVE ME FROM YOUR LIST At 08:53 AM 5/1/98 -0400, you wrote: 
>Congratulations!  Winner of the most irrelevant k-list post. 
>Tom 
> 
> 
R.Fox 
Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 09:13:47 -0500 (CDT) 
From: hbarrettATnospamix.netcom.com (Holly N. Barrett, Ph.D.) 
To: deliriumATnospamionet.net 
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: Dream (experience sharing, K-related I think!) 
Message-Id: <199805061413.JAA01617ATnospamdfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com>
 
Your dream (and your interpretation) suggests to me that you might  
enjoy reading "Leaving My Father's House" by Marion Woodman.  The 3rd  
story in particular is about a woman finding her own vision when she  
steps out of the context of the conventional world.  Best wishes, Holly 
Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 10:43:26 EDT 
From: Harsha1MTM <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com> 
To: sinisa.turinaATnospamzg.tel.hr, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com 
Subject: Re: Re:  RE: Kuthumi 
Message-ID: <31f19041.35507710ATnospamaol.com> 
 
In a message dated 5/5/1998, 6:35:29 PM, sinisa.turinaATnospamzg.tel.hr writes: 
<<Now, let me just say that, when I was trying to picture where I was 
heading, I didn't try to remember my nirvikalpa samadhi experience. I took 
a look at the pictures of either Babaji or Sai Baba. Enough said. :) 
>>
 
Harsha: The term Nirvikalpa implies Being without thought, form, or any mental 
modification. Nirvikalpa Samadhi is Nirbija or without seed. The "one who is 
trying to picture where he is heading" disappears in IT. The Knower, Known, 
and Knowing are Recognized to be Identical. 
 
Now water water everywhere 
not a single sound is made 
I did drown in the Well of Love 
and only Love remained
 
>From Harsha's love poetry  
Date: Wed, 06 May 1998 17:08:31 +0200 
From: Danijel Turina <sinisa.turinaATnospamzg.tel.hr> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com 
Subject: The goal 
Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980506170831.00a3d100ATnospampop.tel.hr> 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
 
At 10:43 1998.05.06 EDT, you wrote: 
>In a message dated 5/5/1998, 6:35:29 PM, sinisa.turinaATnospamzg.tel.hr writes: 
><<Now, let me just say that, when I was trying to picture where I was 
>heading, I didn't try to remember my nirvikalpa samadhi experience. I took 
>a look at the pictures of either Babaji or Sai Baba. Enough said. :) 
> 
>Harsha: The term Nirvikalpa implies Being without thought, form, or any 
mental 
>modification. Nirvikalpa Samadhi is Nirbija or without seed. The "one who is 
>trying to picture where he is heading" disappears in IT. The Knower, Known, 
>and Knowing are Recognized to be Identical. 
 
I know the definition, don't worry. :) I don't think you understood what I 
wrote. Nirvikalpa samadhi is something like unplugging yourself completely 
from the relative ego and realizing the Absolute Self. But it is not the 
goal, more like a reminder of the reality beyond. A question: does leaving 
the state of samadhi leave you in the state of no desires? If not, then you 
have not reached the goal. In the state of no desires, only pure devotion 
remains.
 
----- 
E-mail  : sinisa.turinaATnospamzg.tel.hr 
Homepage: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/1377 
Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 11:39:37 EDT 
From: Harsha1MTM <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com> 
To: sinisa.turinaATnospamzg.tel.hr, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com 
Subject: Re: The goal 
Message-ID: <9a4237b2.3550843aATnospamaol.com> 
 
In a message dated 5/6/1998, 11:13:36 AM, sinisa.turinaATnospamzg.tel.hr writes: 
<<>Harsha: The term Nirvikalpa implies Being without thought, form, or any 
mental 
>modification. Nirvikalpa Samadhi is Nirbija or without seed. The "one who is 
>trying to picture where he is heading" disappears in IT. The Knower, Known, 
>and Knowing are Recognized to be Identical. 
 
I know the definition, don't worry. :) I don't think you understood what I 
wrote. Nirvikalpa samadhi is something like unplugging yourself completely 
from the relative ego and realizing the Absolute Self. But it is not the 
goal, more like a reminder of the reality beyond. A question: does leaving 
the state of samadhi leave you in the state of no desires? If not, then you 
have not reached the goal. In the state of no desires, only pure devotion 
remains. 
>>
 
Harsha:  As long as one conceives that there are goals left to be reached or 
achieved, it is not the Self-Realization which Sages speak of.  True Knowledge 
is Permanent and consumes all goals, hopes, desires, dreams and possibilities. 
Self, It Self is the State of Full Awareness. It has no longings for anything 
what so ever being Self-Fulfilled, Self-Existent, Eternal and Pure Joy. Self 
is not contaminated by desires, nor does it contradict them. Self is not 
contaminated by any mental states, Superconscious states, Samadhis, etc., nor 
does it contradict them. 
Date: Wed, 06 May 1998 17:59:10 +0200 
From: Danijel Turina <sinisa.turinaATnospamzg.tel.hr> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com 
Subject: Re: The goal 
Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980506175910.00a396c0ATnospampop.tel.hr> 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
 
At 11:39 1998.05.06 EDT, you wrote: 
>In a message dated 5/6/1998, 11:13:36 AM, sinisa.turinaATnospamzg.tel.hr writes: 
><<>Harsha: The term Nirvikalpa implies Being without thought, form, or any 
>mental 
>>modification. Nirvikalpa Samadhi is Nirbija or without seed. The "one who is 
>>trying to picture where he is heading" disappears in IT. The Knower, Known, 
>>and Knowing are Recognized to be Identical.  
> 
>I know the definition, don't worry. :) I don't think you understood what I 
>wrote. Nirvikalpa samadhi is something like unplugging yourself completely 
>from the relative ego and realizing the Absolute Self. But it is not the 
>goal, more like a reminder of the reality beyond. A question: does leaving 
>the state of samadhi leave you in the state of no desires? If not, then you 
>have not reached the goal. In the state of no desires, only pure devotion 
>remains. 
>>> 
> 
>Harsha:  As long as one conceives that there are goals left to be reached or 
>achieved, it is not the Self-Realization which Sages speak of.  True 
Knowledge 
>is Permanent and consumes all goals, hopes, desires, dreams and 
possibilities. 
>Self, It Self is the State of Full Awareness. It has no longings for anything 
>what so ever being Self-Fulfilled, Self-Existent, Eternal and Pure Joy. Self 
>is not contaminated by desires, nor does it contradict them. Self is not 
>contaminated by any mental states, Superconscious states, Samadhis, etc., nor 
>does it contradict them.
 
As long as you're happy with it... :) 
Tell me, why not be a rock or a chair then? I Am all there Is. 
;) 
As I said... :) Evolution. Shahanshah has spoken of it quite eloquently here.
 
----- 
E-mail  : sinisa.turinaATnospamzg.tel.hr 
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Date: Wed, 06 May 1998 08:51:12 -0700 
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com> 
To: WHYASK <WHYASKATnospamaol.com> 
Cc: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: Uncontrollable 
Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980506085112.00861d50ATnospamdomin8rex.com> 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
 
  Oh, Darlin', you are so scared and it is because you are making the 
divine fire inside of you into the enemy. It isn't. It is Love.  
  The uncontrollable movements are called Kriyas. It is Deity giving your 
body a workout, in your highest good. You do not understand it, coz you are 
scared, and who can fathom the movements of the Divine? Well, for sure the 
scared part cannot..  
  When this energy awakened in you, you were reborn to a Divine Mother, or 
a Celestial Father if you prefer. Now you are a helpless infant, who sees 
colors and wonders what they mean, and this Mother who created you, is 
taking care of you.. but sometimes you fuss and scream as she lays you down 
against your will to change a diaper or pull clean clothes on.. it does not 
make the Mother's job any easier, She must do as She does, for your highest 
good, and it is Her wish that you respond to Her care with love and 
appreciation, instead of being a cranky child.  
  You have lost your mind.. and I mean that in the nicest possible way.. I 
lost mine too, kicking and screaming just like you... and it has turned out 
to be a great blessing. Goddess has it now, and She will do with it as She 
will.. in your highest good, with Unconditional love.. no matter how hard 
you fight. She is stronger. She would not have to hurt you, if you did not 
fight so hard.  
  I know you consider yourself unworthy to become a temple of the divine, 
and hard to believe that Divinity would be so interested in you, but it is 
not your opinion about it that matters anymore. Remember that the meek and 
humble are often the types Deity seems to like best.. and that would be you.  
  Goddess has judged you humble enough to be worthy of carrying Kundalini 
Fire of Divine Will that you are struggling to defeat, and if Goddess 
thinks you are worth it, then you are. She has made plans for you, that are 
inconceivably vaster and more fun than anything you yourself could possibly 
come up with on your own. Why not go along with the ride, see what She has 
in mind? 
  You are getting pretty tired of fighting anyways, aren't you? Why not 
give in and see what happens? Trust. Try this meditation: 
http://www.domin8rex.com/serpent/ground.htm
 
    with love.. Mystress.
 
At 01:50 AM 06/05/98 EDT, WHYASK wrote: 
>I feel like 
>someone else is controlling my body, not me, like a foriegn body. It is 
really 
>strange, and hurts. This other thing in my body makes me feel uncontrollable, 
>almost like I am losing my mind. It scares me, it is so powerful, and I feel 
>like I cant do anything to stop this forgein body. Do you have any clue what 
>this maybe? 
>Lost and Wondering, 
>Kristin 
> 
> 
> 
Date: Wed, 06 May 1998 09:07:59 -0700 
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com> 
To: WHYASK <WHYASKATnospamaol.com> 
Cc: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: Near-Death Experience 
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  NDE's are often associated with awakening experiences.. when folks "go 
into the light" they tend to bring some of it back with them.. they are 
changed by their experience and they are "reborn" into a more spiritual 
life. It is the death-rebirth cycle of nature.. the death of ego: the 
previous limited image of the self.. to be reborn and a more holistic and 
transcendent image of the Self as born of the Light.    
  We appreciate the Gift of Life best, when we seem about to lose it.. no 
atheists on the battlefield, they say.. but some very spiritual survivors. 
So give up the "battle" and surrender, already. The enemy you are fighting 
is Love.  
    Blessings, Mystress.
 
At 12:07 AM 02/05/98 EDT, WHYASK wrote: 
><< Has anyone ever had one?  I think I did last night.  Does this relate 
to K? 
>  
> Liz >> 
> 
>A few months ago, I also experienced a near death experience, I have not 
tough 
>figured out if it was realted to K. I do not know, but I would like to also. 
>Kristin 
> 
> 
> 
Date: Wed, 06 May 1998 13:18:53 -0700 
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com> 
To: trexisATnospamjuno.com 
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com 
Subject: body spell.Was:Kundalini fire for burning calories 
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At 04:16 AM 06/05/98 -0400, trexisATnospamjuno.com wrote: 
>Well it makes a lot of sense to me.  I'm one of those naturally skinny 
>people <...> I don't get hunger pains, but If I fail to feed 
>my face when my apetite demands, I get faint, shakey, 
>or simply collapse.   
  Me too.. but I also eat less than half the food everyday than most other 
folks do.. I think coz my digestion has been revamped by Goddess. 
 
> A metabolic shift from activated kundalini could be 
>a very effective 
>means of changing weight.   
  Not necessarily.
 
>Although I am conscious of the many physical changes people have wilfully 
>made in their bodies with the help of kundalini,I wouldn't be surprised 
>if an attempt to ignite the k fire for ulterior purposes would fail.
 
   It is true.. some spiritual folks become enormous because they have a 
fear that they are not "big enough" to handle the intense energy without it 
burning them up. 
 
  The dilemma is in being unable to do this.....  
>>looking outside ourselves over and over and over for this or that food to  
>>*fix* us, to reduce the food outside ourselves, to help us lose weight. 
It makes  
>>only sense (and right now just a thought) to go inside ourselves  
>>(activating k??) for the answers./ 
> 
   I have a meditation that will send you inside for answers.. and it might 
wake your K., too.. but it is not necessary. What is necessary is going 
inside and giving love to who you are until you can see your idealized self 
within.. then give yourself permission to become that.  
  It is kind of long, but I'll send it to any who request.
 
 
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