1998/05/02 17:43
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #349
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 349
Today's Topics:
Re: Near-Death Experience [ WHYASK <WHYASKATnospamaol.com> ]
Re: Goddess and Circulating the Ener [ lobster <lobATnospamlobster.newnet.co.uk> ]
sanskrit chacram mantras [ trexisATnospamjuno.com ]
Re: Awakenings: Balanced VS Unbalanc [ Danijel Turina <sinisa.turinaATnospamzg.te ]
Re: Goddess and Circulating the Ener [ "Sharon Webb" <shawebbATnospamyhc.edu> ]
Re: Re: Chakral Sanskrit [ Afperry <AfperryATnospamaol.com> ]
Re: Near-Death Experience [ "Ed Arrons" <eeaATnospamaug.com> ]
Re: Chakral Sanskrit [ Afperry <AfperryATnospamaol.com> ]
Re: Chakral Sanskrit [ Harsha1MTM <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com> ]
Ego and K [ WHYASK <WHYASKATnospamaol.com> ]
Re: Chakral Sanskrit [ hbarrettATnospamix.netcom.com (Holly N. Ba ]
Re: Turban and Kundalini [ Hofe1 <Hofe1ATnospamaol.com> ]
Re: Ego and K [ Mark Rivera <mrivera1ATnospamIDT.NET> ]
Re: Near-Death Experience [ Roberto Gonzales <rgvgATnospamyahoo.com> ]
Re: Awakenings: Balanced VS Unbalanc [ "Antoine" <acarreATnospamconcentric.net> ]
Re: Awakenings: Balanced VS Unbalanc [ Danijel Turina <sinisa.turinaATnospamzg.te ]
AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Cen [ Gwen Oana <theseerATnospamunforgettable.co ]
Re: Awakenings: Balanced VS Unbalanc [ Jeanne Garner <jeannegATnospamicon.net> ]
Re: Awakenings: Balanced VS Unbalanc [ Danijel Turina <sinisa.turinaATnospamzg.te ]
Re: Awakenings: Balanced VS Unbalanc [ Harsha1MTM <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com> ]
Date: Sat, 2 May 1998 00:07:52 EDT
From: WHYASK <WHYASKATnospamaol.com>
To: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Near-Death Experience
Message-ID: <e4ca318a.354a9c19ATnospamaol.com>
<< Has anyone ever had one? I think I did last night. Does this relate to K?
Liz >>
A few months ago, I also experienced a near death experience, I have not tough
figured out if it was realted to K. I do not know, but I would like to also.
Kristin
Date: Fri, 01 May 1998 04:30:38 -0700
From: lobster <lobATnospamlobster.newnet.co.uk>
To: Hofe1 <Hofe1ATnospamaol.com>, Kundalini Mailing List <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Goddess and Circulating the Energy
Message-ID: <3549B25E.6EEA297DATnospamlobster.newnet.co.uk>
Hofe1 wrote:
>
> Dear Mary:
>
> I once belonged to a spiritual group called 3HO. They all wore turbans.
> Anyway, I would do the yoga(They called it Kundalini Yoga.) and I would do
> something called breath of fire or breath of Agni. I also ate alot of garlic
> and chili laden food. I came down with tons of problems. I was either really
> sleepy and spacey or as horney as a rabbit. My emotions
Ah yes the notorious turban wearing, garlic chomping, chilli breathing
Health, Happiness and Horny as a rabbit 3HO cult 'teaching' kundalini
Yoga.
Well, well . . .
> were of despair. I cried alot. I was also kind feverish and hot. About a month
> ago I found out from something that I read that the breath of fire I had been
> doing was probably incorrectly done. In addition I also had candida albicans.
> When I sought help for my problems, I was treated like an incorrigible head
> case. Anyway I went around with this turban on my head with perpetual heat in
> my brain. It was not until I saw an acupuncturist and took up taoist yoga that
> things started to clear up. I had also heard of a former memeber of 3HO, who
> had constant miscarriages. She could not get pregnant. An Auyervedic doctor
> determined that she too much heat in her body. By all means keep that
> energy circulated and balanced. Make sure that your emotions are purified and
> ennobled before drawing up that sexual energy up your spine. Because that
> kundalini will magnify whatever mood you are in.
Good advice indeed. I hope you are becoming well.
People who are (to be kind) stupid enough to activate and stimulate
kundalini without preparation - well the dangers are pointed out in the
classics again and again.
Preparation is everything. By developing calm and equanamity. By
practicing and creating beneficial mind states we ease ourselves into a
form of being that makes *EVERYTHING* easier. That is the purpose of
spiritual practice.
I wish you well . . . and stay away from the silly people.
Ed (silly person)
Date: Sat, 2 May 1998 04:42:26 -0400
From: trexisATnospamjuno.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: sanskrit chacram mantras
Message-ID: <19980502.044227.11982.0.trexisATnospamjuno.com>
this is a copy of the sanscrit pronunciation guide in my copy of the
bhagavad gita
published by nicolas hayes:
"The ancient Indian grammarians of the Sanskrit language have identified
fourty-eight
sounds as worthyof notation, and in the script that was developed over
the centuries each character represents that one sound unalterably.
Hence there can be no confusion about howa particular word was prononced,
though different schools of Veda transmission show slight variations in
the articulation: yet compared with the haphazard correspondence of Roman
notation and English pronunciation, Sanskrit notation is extremely
precise."
"The sequence of the alphabet again was completely scientific. The order
of letters is not the historical jumble of the Roman alphabet, which
imitated the sequence of Semitic scripts, but simply the path of the
breath through the hollow of the mouth from the throat to the lips,
producing the vowels: through the nose, producing tehse vowels with
nasalization: and the same breath with occlusion of the tongue to points
in the hollow of the mouth from the throat to the lips, producing the
consonants."
Whew. Understanding that focusing the breath, and prana through the body
would
also affect the flow of kundalini in and through a chakra not to mention
the physical
vibrations, sanskrit mantrams quite certainly have powerful esoteric
effects on the
gross and subtle bodies. Remember :As above, so below. As below, So
above.
Would someone please give me a better explaination of a bija?
I found some more information concerning other nadis as well as some
esoteric
information on chakras. (published by lewellyn) If anyone wants me to
post it, give me
an email.
Edward
>Alan wrote:
>--------------------
>.....If this is true, then the chanting of Sanskrit has an important
>esoteric role to play in our spiritual development and therefore
>merits
>deeper consideration on practical grounds alone.
>--------------------
>
>Alan,
>
>In India it is a very common to have a K-master give one a special
>mantra with a bija (sp??) [pronounced bee ja] word or even a bija
>mantra. These words may have little or no meaning when translated to
>another language. They are there for the power of the sound alone.
>
>These bija mantras are the sounds of the chakra's petals. They may be
>used to heal an injured chakra, particularly an "unbalanced" one, to
>open a blocked chakra, to draw K to a chakra above the one where it is
>
>currently, etc.
>
>The words (really often just syllables) will be chosen for the student
>
>by the teacher and may be changed when the needs of the student
>change.
>Picking one's own bija mantra is not the safest thing one can do
>without
>proper help. Some bijas are too powerful for some people and can
>injure
>chakras and nadis, particularly weak ones, by overloading them. It is
>much the same way there are different sizes of electrical line
>(different capacities) for different loads and runs that exist. Use a
>small wire and try to force too much electricity through it (without a
>Joe
>
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Date: Sat, 02 May 1998 10:48:39 +0200
From: Danijel Turina <sinisa.turinaATnospamzg.tel.hr>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Awakenings: Balanced VS Unbalanced
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At 17:33 1998.05.01 EDT, you wrote:
>I have come to the conclusion (and of course will keep an open mind for those
>that may disagree with good reasoning) that there are no unbalanced Kundalini
>Awakenings.... Rather they should be called Ignorant Awakenings -- You know,
>the "I don't know what the hell I am doing and have never heard of Kundalini
>when all these wierd & wonderful things started occurring in my life".
>
>I am thinking that if anyone knowledgeable enough about kundalini, has a good
>K teacher, and a good spiritual foundation, that they could go through, say,
>my own experience of an *unbalanced awakening*, and be able to go with the
>flow and create a balanced awakening. They wouldn't go through the fear that
>I did because they would be aware of what was going on, instead of just
>thinking they were going nuts.
>
>Am I wrong in this thinking?
No, I think you're right. Most of what I have encountered here, talked
about in terms of "bad K stuff" could be avoided by simple instructions on
what to do. Others just panick because they don't know whether something is
actually good for them or are they just going nuts. The experience itself
is not nearly as important as the individual's approach to it. For
instance, if someone knows nothing about visuddha chakra, and the vajra
energy it channels, and suddenly starts feeling a blue star in the troath,
and deepest blue consciousness in all the things around him/her, and has
visions through the throat, what would that person think? Especially if
he/she bumps into some idiot talking about the temporal lobe epilepsy? I
even saw this shit on this list, people who post such nonsense should
inform themselves better and simply shut the fuck up rather than post the
disturbing and irrelevant rubbish that might cause some people unnecessary
emotional pain and/or lack of self trust and self esteem. This kind of
people is probably the main reason behind K-folks having so much problems.
They attempt to repress something good as bad and they are in for some
serious shit then.
I think that's what this list is supposed to do: tell the people that
someone's been through the same thing, tell them what helps in their
condition and what should be avoided - from the experience of those who
walked the path themselves.
Some things that take people decades to solve can be solved in months. You
just need to know what to do. K would probably solve things out as it is,
but if you are conscious of the process, you can assist it.
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Date: Sat, 2 May 1998 08:22:34 -0400
From: "Sharon Webb" <shawebbATnospamyhc.edu>
To: "lobster" <lobATnospamlobster.newnet.co.uk>, "Hofe1" <Hofe1ATnospamaol.com>,
"Kundalini Mailing List" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Goddess and Circulating the Energy
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Hi,
Hofe1 wrote:
>>
>> Dear Mary:
>>
>> I once belonged to a spiritual group called 3HO. They all wore
turbans.
>> Anyway, I would do the yoga(They called it Kundalini Yoga.) and I would
do
>> something called breath of fire or breath of Agni. I also ate alot of
garlic
>> and chili laden food. I came down with tons of problems. I was either
really
>> sleepy and spacey or as horney as a rabbit.
And lobster wrote:
>Ah yes the notorious turban wearing, garlic chomping, chilli breathing
>Health, Happiness and Horny as a rabbit 3HO cult 'teaching' kundalini
>Yoga.
>Well, well . . .
Now lobster, please tell us what one is to do if this happens spontaneously
without benefit of turban?
Love,
Sharon
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Date: Sat, 2 May 1998 09:05:55 EDT
From: Afperry <AfperryATnospamaol.com>
To: joemillerATnospamhotmail.com
Cc: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Re: Chakral Sanskrit
Message-ID: <4bf39894.354b1a34ATnospamaol.com>
Dear Joe,
In a message dated 1/5/98 4:00:04 pm, you wrote:
>These bija mantras are the sounds of the chakra's petals
Thanks for your post. I am aware of and use bija (seed) mantras but was not
aware that they are the chakra 'petals'. If you and Lahiri Mahasaya are both
correct, these seed mantras will also therefore be letters of the Sanskrit
alphabet, which is also something new to me. The plot
thickens..........................
Your warning about too much power "creating fire instead of light" is very
apt. I also like the imagery and I shall incorporate it into my own teaching
at appropriate moments. Thank you!
With blessings,
Alan
Date: Sat, 2 May 1998 10:07:22 -0400
From: "Ed Arrons" <eeaATnospamaug.com>
To: "PShaw86324" <PShaw86324ATnospamaol.com>, <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Near-Death Experience
Message-Id: <199805021407.KAA02012ATnospamsandia.aug.com>
Subject: Near-Death Experience
Has anyone ever had one? I think I did last night. Does this relate to K?
Liz
-------------
No, but I think I had a Near-Life experience.
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Date: Sat, 2 May 1998 10:10:43 EDT
From: Afperry <AfperryATnospamaol.com>
To: Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com
Cc: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Chakral Sanskrit
Message-ID: <da47eba5.354b2965ATnospamaol.com>
Dear Harsha,
In a message dated 1/5/98 5:17:51 pm, you wrote:
Harsha: One can argue that "professional" gurus perpetuate this notion to
enhance their own importance. Fear is often used to control students by the
pseudo gurus in virtually every cult or religion. Nevertheless, it is
generally accepted that mantras should be received from someone in a
particular lineage or tradition, who has a certain level of spiritual
attainment. The linkage with a tradition is helpful and provides a view of
Reality that enables one to interpret spiritual experiences. It helps to
ground the spiritual aspirant until the grounding it self becomes meaningless.
Alan: I think there is another important aspect to consider here. When a
'guru' of the right spiritual attainment initiates a disciple with a mantra,
he/she is literally sowing a seed of power in that disciple's consciousness by
transferring latent shakti. The disciple's subsequent sadhana causes that seed
to grow until eventually the mantra comes to fruition and the disciple in turn
becomes a guru who can then pass it on to his own disciple. I think the term
bija/seed mantra is a lot more literal than people realise!
Although a mantra still has its inherent power regardless of how it is
communicated to you, 'mantra diksha' by a Self-realised master causes a
greater infusion of spiritual power with consequent benefit to the recipient.
I also believe this is the means to connect the disciple to the master's
lineage - a form of apostolic succession.
With blessings,
Alan
Date: Sat, 2 May 1998 11:11:14 EDT
From: Harsha1MTM <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com>
To: AfperryATnospamaol.com
Cc: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Chakral Sanskrit
Message-ID: <5fe3a8ae.354b3793ATnospamaol.com>
In a message dated 5/2/1998 7:10:43 AM Pacific Daylight Time, Afperry writes:
<< Although a mantra still has its inherent power regardless of how it is
communicated to you, 'mantra diksha' by a Self-realised master causes a
greater infusion of spiritual power with consequent benefit to the recipient.
I also believe this is the means to connect the disciple to the master's
lineage - a form of apostolic succession.
>>
Harsha: Yes. Well said. Every Shakti tradition has a few "Pivotal" or
"Supreme" Shakti mantras. These are usually not written down but transmitted
only orally. These mantras affect the flow of breath and prana and facilitate
the rising of the Shakti to higher centers and the Sahasharara. They can give
rise to the Divine Form of Shakti as the Supreme Goddess. However, keep in
mind that Self-Realization is not dependent on following any particular
tradition or practicing any technique no matter how special or sacred. For
example, Sage Valmiki was a thug and a dacoit. When he wished to transform his
life he became initiated and received the mantra RAMA. In his meditation, he
forgot the mantra and kept repeating it incorrectly as MARA, MARA, etc. He
still Realized and is the author of Ramayana, an Indian classic. Ultimately,
the longing for the Self, or the Divine, or God, or call it what you want, is
the main thing. It purifies the mind. It overcomes everything. No deficiencies
or obstacles can prevent a genuine devotee from Realizing the Goal. Giving up
all works to the Supreme Being and surrendering to the Divine Will, nothing
else needs to be done.
Date: Sat, 2 May 1998 12:04:48 EDT
From: WHYASK <WHYASKATnospamaol.com>
To: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Ego and K
Message-ID: <149f5da9.354b4421ATnospamaol.com>
I think K and I have been in a never ending battle. I am not letting my ego
down, and I think it is hurting me more than some other pain. What do you
think?
Kristin
Date: Sat, 2 May 1998 11:10:12 -0500 (CDT)
From: hbarrettATnospamix.netcom.com (Holly N. Barrett, Ph.D.)
To: Harsha1MTM <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Chakral Sanskrit
Message-Id: <199805021610.LAA28851ATnospamdfw-ix5.ix.netcom.com>
You wrote:
>
> >>
>Harsha: Sage Valmiki was a thug and a dacoit. When he wished to
transform his
>life he became initiated and received the mantra RAMA. In his
meditation, he
>forgot the mantra and kept repeating it incorrectly as MARA, MARA,
etc. He
>still Realized and is the author of Ramayana, an Indian classic.
I love this story, thank you! It reminds me of another wonderful story
about a boy going to a synagogue to find God but the only Hebrew he
knows is the alphabet so he just chants that, over and over. Of course
his heart connects him to the Divine immediately, much to the amazement
of the surrounding Talmudic Scholars! Holly
Date: Sat, 2 May 1998 12:49:01 EDT
From: Hofe1 <Hofe1ATnospamaol.com>
To: shawebbATnospamyhc.edu
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Turban and Kundalini
Message-ID: <7ddcba7b.354b4e7eATnospamaol.com>
Dear Sharon:
Yes a kundalini experience can happen without a turban, but wearing a turban
focuses alot of the energy into the head area. In fact I was told that when I
was in 3HO to take off my turban and let my hair down to calm down that energy
before I went to bed. I would also like to add that there is nothing wrong
with where a turban and eating lots of garlic and chili if you are willling to
balance that energy in other ways. It's just that in seeking that balance you
must expend some energy. After all Shiva once drank a river of poison and
lived. As for myself I must humbly admit that I am not capable of such things.
I like my hair down and I like to keep my diet somewhat neutral.
Best wishes,
Dave
Date: Sat, 2 May 1998 14:09:59 -0400 (EDT)
From: Mark Rivera <mrivera1ATnospamIDT.NET>
To: WHYASK <WHYASKATnospamaol.com>
cc: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Ego and K
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I think you're right.
Date: Sat, 2 May 1998 11:27:29 -0700 (PDT)
From: Roberto Gonzales <rgvgATnospamyahoo.com>
To: Ed Arrons <eeaATnospamaug.com>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Near-Death Experience
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Good point. Life is neverending. A near dead experience regards ego.
Life trascends ego. A near dead experience is good though. Ego has to
be told it will go. And felt in person is the best way. Experience is
way stronger than theory or dogma.
When you experience ego-body death you get in contact with the real
life.
Now, with K one trascends ego-body aswell sometimes.
Finally everything converges to one truth.
It is important, though, to know and accept (and enjoy!) we have a
body for 100 years or so.
---Ed Arrons <eeaATnospamaug.com> wrote:
>
> Subject: Near-Death Experience
>
> Has anyone ever had one? I think I did last night. Does this
relate to K?
>
> Liz
> -------------
> No, but I think I had a Near-Life experience.
>
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>
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Date: Sat, 2 May 1998 15:29:13 -0400
From: "Antoine" <acarreATnospamconcentric.net>
To: "Mailing list (Kundalini)" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>,
"Danijel Turina" <sinisa.turinaATnospamzg.tel.hr>
Subject: Re: Awakenings: Balanced VS Unbalanced
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Hello Danijel,
:I think that's what this list is supposed to do: tell the people that
:someone's been through the same thing, tell them what helps in their
:condition and what should be avoided - from the experience of those who
:walked the path themselves.
How do we help someone to understand he or she only fears him/herself?
:Some things that take people decades to solve can be solved in months. You
:just need to know what to do. K would probably solve things out as it is,
:but if you are conscious of the process, you can assist it.
Yes so true, but also it can create deeper fears.
Antoine
:
Date: Sat, 02 May 1998 22:09:11 +0200
From: Danijel Turina <sinisa.turinaATnospamzg.tel.hr>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Awakenings: Balanced VS Unbalanced
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At 15:29 1998.05.02 -0400, Antoine wrote:
>Hello Danijel,
>
>:I think that's what this list is supposed to do: tell the people that
>:someone's been through the same thing, tell them what helps in their
>:condition and what should be avoided - from the experience of those who
>:walked the path themselves.
>
>How do we help someone to understand he or she only fears him/herself?
I don't see what you mean? Absolute statements are completely irrelevant
for solving problems in the relative. People need practical advice, not
crap. If someone's temperature is rising due tu K-overload at mulaadhara
cakra, that person doesn't need someone to tell him/her that all is one,
but how to handle that problem and FAST. How do you help? You give
instructions for the energy release technique and the temperature will
stabilize in seconds. That's how you help.
>:Some things that take people decades to solve can be solved in months. You
>:just need to know what to do. K would probably solve things out as it is,
>:but if you are conscious of the process, you can assist it.
>
>Yes so true, but also it can create deeper fears.
Bullshit.
Tell me this: if you are trying to cross the street blindfolded, and if you
are trying to do it with your eyes wide open, observing things so you can
avoid cars, stop and go, depending on the conditions, tell me, what are the
chances for you to get there in one piece, in the first and in the second
case? Come on! I know what I'm talking about. My students are handling in
weeks what I was struggling through for months and years. Knowledge and
guidance are everything. I see people here who are spontaneously performing
the up-stream kriya. Mostly, they don't even know what it is. Therefore,
they are cautious. They question themselves all the time, wondering if
they're going nuts or what. When they find out it is actually a good thing,
they can do it willingly and accelerate their growth enormously. That's
what I'm talking about here. The mind works all the time. It is better when
it works as your ally then as your enemy.
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Date: Sat, 2 May 1998 10:13:20 -1000 (HST)
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I'm glad to have found this list because I feel very lonely about the experiences I've had for approximately the last 20 years. In 1973 I began doing transcendental meditation; in around 1977, I started experiencing an expanding contracting in my head. This was usually right before I would go to sleep. At times it was so powerful that I thought my head would explode. Then between 1980 and 1982, I started having spontaneous movement from my lower spine up to the solar-plexus area where I felt this strange kind of movement. From there the energy would progress up to my heart area where it would be experienced by me as some kind of circular pressure around the heart area. Also during this particular time I would feel these tremendous energy surges go through my body as though I was electrical or atomic. Many times I would just lie on my bed vibrating. At this time I no longer have the feeling that "my chakras are being cleansed" but almost every night before falling asleep I expe!
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rience these huge energy surges before falling asleep. Sometimes they are so powerful that I have to tell the "forces that be" to stop because I can't handle that kind of power surge. When I get to that point, they do stop. Often, I have the energy shoot through my head and sometimes I hear a crackling or what feels like a rearranging in my skull. I've felt so isolated and misunderstood in this kind of experience because noone I know can relate to what I'm talking about. A book that really gave me clarity about what I've been going through is called "The I that is We" by Richard Moss. Has anyone out there had anything like what I've been experiencing? What's it about and what is it doing? I really don't see too much enlightened or special about me. Thanks for giving me this opportunity to talk about this. Blessings, Gwen
Date: Sat, 02 May 1998 15:25:08
From: Jeanne Garner <jeannegATnospamicon.net>
To: Danijel Turina <sinisa.turinaATnospamzg.tel.hr>, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Awakenings: Balanced VS Unbalanced
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At 10:09 PM 5/2/98 +0200, Danijel Turina wrote:
>I don't see what you mean? Absolute statements are completely irrelevant
>for solving problems in the relative. People need practical advice, not
>crap. If someone's temperature is rising due tu K-overload at mulaadhara
>cakra, that person doesn't need someone to tell him/her that all is one,
>but how to handle that problem and FAST. How do you help? You give
>instructions for the energy release technique and the temperature will
>stabilize in seconds. That's how you help.
Almost makes you wonder if we need a "kundalini 911" list...
Jeanne
==-* My stars!
Date: Sat, 02 May 1998 22:58:43 +0200
From: Danijel Turina <sinisa.turinaATnospamzg.tel.hr>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Awakenings: Balanced VS Unbalanced
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At 15:25 1998.05.02, you wrote:
>At 10:09 PM 5/2/98 +0200, Danijel Turina wrote:
>
>>I don't see what you mean? Absolute statements are completely irrelevant
>>for solving problems in the relative. People need practical advice, not
>>crap. If someone's temperature is rising due tu K-overload at mulaadhara
>>cakra, that person doesn't need someone to tell him/her that all is one,
>>but how to handle that problem and FAST. How do you help? You give
>>instructions for the energy release technique and the temperature will
>>stabilize in seconds. That's how you help.
>
>Almost makes you wonder if we need a "kundalini 911" list...
Well, yes, sort of. :)
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Date: Sat, 2 May 1998 19:05:54 EDT
From: Harsha1MTM <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com>
To: ImtgxxxATnospamaol.com, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Awakenings: Balanced VS Unbalanced
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In a message dated 5/1/1998 2:35:09 PM Pacific Daylight Time, ImtgxxxATnospamaol.com
writes:
<< I am thinking that if anyone knowledgeable enough about kundalini, has a
good
K teacher, and a good spiritual foundation, that they could go through, say,
my own experience of an *unbalanced awakening*, and be able to go with the
flow and create a balanced awakening. They wouldn't go through the fear that
I did because they would be aware of what was going on, instead of just
thinking they were going nuts.
Am I wrong in this thinking? >>
Harsha: You are right. Good guidance always helps. The company of Sages,
dwelling on their teaching and being with loving people is the best protection
from fear. See to what type of teaching or teacher you are attracted to and
what makes sense to you. Make the link if you are comfortable with a
particular teaching or tradition. A genuine spiritual personality has a
peaceful disposition and communicates that peace directly.
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