1998/04/30 15:02
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #346
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 346
Today's Topics:
Parallel processing [ Paul West <paulATnospamstationone.demon.co ]
Whoops [ "Paul West" <paulATnospamstationone.demon. ]
AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Cen [ Jan Esmann Jensen <Jan.esmannATnospamget2n ]
AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Cen [ Jan Esmann Jensen <Jan.esmannATnospamget2n ]
Re: Chakras [ Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iis ]
Re: Whoops [ hbarrettATnospamix.netcom.com (Holly N. Ba ]
Re: The twitch [ Danijel Turina <sinisa.turinaATnospamzg.te ]
Re: k list has babies-Jain Tantras [ Mary Ezzell <maryATnospamsonic.net> ]
Re: Goddess [ Mary Ezzell <maryATnospamsonic.net> ]
Re: Chakral Sanskrit [ Mary Ezzell <maryATnospamsonic.net> ]
Yoga Web Sites [ PShaw86324 <PShaw86324ATnospamaol.com> ]
To Activate or Not Activate.... that [ Imtgxxx <ImtgxxxATnospamaol.com> ]
Truth in Chicken Salad [ Imtgxxx <ImtgxxxATnospamaol.com> ]
Re: Truth in Chicken Salad [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpent ]
Re: Chakral Sanskrit [ "Larry Schmitz" <taniaATnospamcentroin.com ]
Timeless [ "Paul West" <paulATnospamstationone.demon. ]
RE: Chakral Sanskrit [ Kurt Keutzer <keutzerATnospameecs.berkeley ]
Date: 30 Apr 98 16:41:23 +0000
From: Paul West <paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Parallel processing
Message-Id: <3548A634.MD-0.196.paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>
Hi.
I currently have a routine which is based in fastram and does various
cpu-blits either to a fastram superbitmap or to a seperate fastram
buffer. There is then a single cpu-based blit of the whole screen from
fastram to chipram, which is something like 320x210 at the moment, 8
bitplanes. I have been finding that increasing the height by more than
this, which means having to do more writes to chipram, has a
significant and disproportionate effect on the framerate.
For me it turns out that processing in fastram is about 3 times as
powerful as in chipram, so chipram is a bottleneck. I understand that
the display hardware is accessing chipram in order to update its
display and I presume that it does this at a certain rate and that it
doesn't simply zip through the whole lot and wait at the end. So if
the display hardware is constantly accessing chipram and I then come
along at the end of my routine and want to do a large amount of
chipram access in one go, I figure there is going to be some restraint
placed on the possible throughput.
I am wondering if anyone has an idea of how I can kind of parallel
process this so that the chipram display is being updated (with the
cpu) whilst the cpu is working on the next frame. I read a little
about triple-buffering. Is this what I need? And how can I do this
kind of thing when both routines have to be cpu-based and not
blitter-based?
I figure that if I could do the chipram refresh in fairly regular
chunks rather than all at once, there would be even more cpu time free
because I understand the CPU is losing about 2/3 of its possible
processing power while working on the chipram update. If, for example,
the display memory was in fastram I would be able to significantly
enhance the amount of blitting that can be performed. But I am also
wondering what sort of effect the caches have, especially the copyback
cache on my 040. Would parallel processing (a cpu-based interrupt?)
seriously meddle with the cache performance? Without decent cache
performance things really stoop.
I have looked a pipelining when I was at college but have not
implemented any in my code yet. Although there could be a possible
gain from not giving the computer a sudden burst of chipram access at
the end of a cycle, I feel that I could perhaps be doing some
processing `in amongst' the chipram accessing instructions, or would
that completely screw up the cache performance? Any ideas?
To follow is the main section of my code for copying from the fastram
buffer to the chipram display. The strange processing in the middle is
to facilitate the use of hardware scrolling with a chipram bitmap of
only 320 pixels wide. I'm not keen on the normal `hidden area' method
because it increases the required chipram access, and when you've got
verticle blank synchronisation to consider it starts to overstep the
mark.
MOVE.l (a0)+,(a1)+ ; Have to do the first one outside the loop
bplane2
MOVE.l #209,d1 ; d5=ypos loop counter
row2
MOVE.l (a0)+,(a1)+
MOVE.l (a0)+,(a1)+
MOVE.l (a0)+,(a1)+
MOVE.l (a0)+,(a1)+
MOVE.l (a0)+,(a1)+
MOVE.l (a0)+,(a1)+
MOVE.l (a0)+,(a1)+
MOVE.l (a0)+,(a1)+
MOVE.l (a0)+,(a1)+
MOVE.l (a0)+,d5 ; Get righthand data
AND.l d4,d5 ; Mask
ADDA.l d7,a0 ; Add horizontal safety-buffer skip-value
MOVE.l (a0)+,d6 ; Get lefthand data
AND.l d3,d6 ; Mask
OR.l d5,d6 ; Combine
MOVE.l d6,(a1)+ ; Output first longword of next set
DBRA d1,row2
ADDA.l d2,a0
DBRA d0,bplane2
Is there anyway to make this more efficient, or some way to prevent
the possible chipram-access-bottleneck that comes with those 10
(hardcoded for a 320-wide screen) longword writes? This is IMO a
perfect application for parallel processing but this is not feasible
at this time.
Date: 30 Apr 98 16:47:03 +0000
From: "Paul West" <paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Whoops
Message-Id: <3548AB07.MD-0.196.paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>
Hello.
Sorry, I just posted a sizeable message in here which was supposed to
be destined for a completely different mailing list. I clicked on the
wrong address. Sorry. I don't suppose anyone knows anything about
pipelining or parallel processing? ;-)
--
Paul.
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 06:06:23 -1000 (HST)
From: Jan Esmann Jensen <Jan.esmannATnospamget2net.dk>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center
Message-Id: <199804301606.GAA17508ATnospamhaleakala.aloha.net>
Can anyone tell me of a living master who gives shaktipat? Real shaktipat, not the egotrip of Gurumay pseudo sucessor of honourable Swami Muktanand. The Tirth lineage seems OK. Has anyone had any direct contact with someone who spends his life awakening others kundalini to spontaneaous yoga, then please helop me get in contact with that guru.
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 06:06:33 -1000 (HST)
From: Jan Esmann Jensen <Jan.esmannATnospamget2net.dk>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center
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Can anyone tell me of a living master who gives shaktipat? Real shaktipat, not the egotrip of Gurumay pseudo sucessor of honourable Swami Muktanand. The Tirth lineage seems OK. Has anyone had any direct contact with someone who spends his life awakening others kundalini to spontaneaous yoga, then please helop me get in contact with that guru.
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 21:55:06 +0530 (IST)
From: Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iisc.ernet.in>
To: Paul West <paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>
cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Chakras
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Hi,
I think there are many chakras in the body but the seven chakras
usually referred in the context of K Muladhar ... Sahashrara
are the major chakras.
Love,
anurag
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 12:09:16 -0500 (CDT)
From: hbarrettATnospamix.netcom.com (Holly N. Barrett, Ph.D.)
To: "Paul West" <paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Whoops
Message-Id: <199804301709.MAA00206ATnospamdfw-ix1.ix.netcom.com>
Your mis-sent post absolutely fascinated me. I did not understand one
word. This reminded me that I am 50 years old, there are vast worlds
unknown to me and that I know less than I ever did before. Eureka! So
you see (hello list, too), every post has value to somebody and maybe
your "whoops" wasn't such a mistake after all. Blessings, Holly
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 19:38:22 +0200
From: Danijel Turina <sinisa.turinaATnospamzg.tel.hr>
To: hall12cATnospamMEENA.CC.UREGINA.CA
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: The twitch
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Hi! :)
Sorry about the delayed response, I have trouble getting through the vast
amount of k-l mail. ;) I am forwarding to you something I wrote on this
list around Valentine's - it seems to me you are spontaneously performing
the up-stream kriya, the thing I codified into an extremely successful
method of purification. It releases the excessive energy that builds up in
your system in conditions of stress. Anyway, there's nothing wrong with
you, on the contrary, you have spontaneously discovered something that is
actually the most efficient technique of yoga known to me. :) There are no
side effects, and it makes the energy detours, surges and overloads (the
things that cause all the bad K-symptoms), impossible.
Take care! :)
At 20:45 1998.04.28 -0600, you wrote:
>On Wed, 29 Apr 1998, Paul West wrote:
>> Something kundalini related which happens to me sometimes is a kind of
>> twitch. But maybe calling it a twitch is misleading. What happens is
>> that something, most often a single finger, will suddenly raise
>> upwards and return to its original position, with rapidity. It's like
>> a kind of ordinary spasm or twitch but seems more `intelligent', like
>> on a higher level of order, you know.
>>
>> Has anyone else had this sort of thing happen?
>
> I've noticed that during periods of extreme stress, or even when
>I'm just feeling less than energetic, I get these short, jabbing twitches
>that hit the base of my neck, just above my shoulders. Sometimes they are
>stronger than others, causing my head to actually physically twitch. Not
>a repetative, creepy twitch that scares people on the bus, but more like
>one sharp snap of the head about 2-5 degrees and back to facing forward.
>After the twitch I generally feel embarassed, like I was just released
>from the nervous hospital (everybody see Slingblade? great stuff). After
>the embarrassment passes, I can sense some strange head-tingling. I never
>associated that with kundalini until I read your post. Chances are I'm
>closer to the mental patient than the sage (not much difference anyway,
>both are thrown into altered states of consciousness, the sage is trained
>for and working for these experiences, where the mental patient is a
>passive recipient of them).
> Colin
Quote:
--------
>On his Ashram I felt the
>experience of Divine Love. My meditation is difficult as I have no
>internal visulisation though I have had birds singing in my head
>which hapened when I pleaded with God to help me see His light at my
>third eye, so at least that is a blessing. How did you clean out the
>rubish between the chakras?
Well, the first thing is to feel that stuff, to be able to connect to the
emotional contents of that energy - the first thing to do is to open
vertically. The easiest way to do that is to "remember God", by reading the
most powerful holy text you know, to think about your guru - having Sai
Baba's picture in front of you may help enormously. With time, you'll be
able to do that at will, without any external help. The next thing is to
feel your inner space, starting from your feet and going up. You will be
able to feel the junk; feel it, and surrender it and yourself to God. Oh
well, I've come this far, I can make the entire technique public here. You
know the "jerk movement" of the head when you finish urinating, or your
entire body shaking when you go from warm to a cold place? That's it. Try
to do it at will, using yoni mudra, that is the contraction of the
perineum/anus (perineum/anus/vagina for women) area, it draws the energy
into susumna nadi, going straight up and leaving your body through
sahasra-ara. The most important thing is to internalize before doing it, to
go inside, connect to God, and then do it. Most of the problems with
Kundalini awakening are the result of externalization, looking out; that
overloads the impure systems and causes all sorts of problems. With this,
you'll be able to instantly draw such energy outbursts inside and up,
surrendering all the excess energy to God. Bottom line is, with this you
can clean up all the surface junk in a matter of days, as soon as you learn
to do this right. In a month, most probably you'll be able to reach the
vertical barrier on your top level chakra, where the real fun starts. :)
More about that when you get there.
Things to have in mind about doing this:
- It doesn't stop until _everything_ is out. This is a serious
transformation tool and should not be taken lightly. The results are
extremely powerful.
- Cleaning the junk releases more junk in the system; the junk has to be
removed before implanting itself into the system, because it can cause
trouble; when the chain reaction of cleaning up a certain area is started,
it has to be finished
- Do not do this unless you want to attain liberation. That's where this
leads. No other goal is possible.
When you do this, at first you could have parts of your body jerking;
left-right head movement means you are doing it right; energy is performing
a spiral movement around the spine and exiting through the crown chakra. I
called this technique "up-stream kriya", a sort of an English/Sanskrit
mish-mash. :) My students are doing this very successfully. It is
demanding, though, it is not difficult to do but discipline is required. Of
course, there are some rules regarding the way of life that make this a lot
easier. ;)
I hope I'll not regret this later. That's the first time I am making this
public.
Om Namah Shivaya! Jai Sai Ram!
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Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 11:24:52 -0700
From: Mary Ezzell <maryATnospamsonic.net>
To: Harsha1MTM <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com>, <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: k list has babies-Jain Tantras
Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980429105404.006d7fb8ATnospampop.sonic.net>
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Hastily....
At 03:38 PM 4/28/98 EDT, you wrote:
>In a message dated 4/28/1998 11:55:10 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
maryATnospamsonic.net
>writes:
>
><< What really helps me ... is info (like from my Jain monk friend) which
> gives sort of an overall picture, without a lot of heavy advice. >>
>
>Harsha: Who is your Jain monk friend?
Guruji Yogeesh. I followed H. H. Sushil Kumarji till he left his body. Sri
Yogeesh was one of his monks. He now has two small ashrams, one in Anaheim
Hills and one in Riverside.
http://www.sonic.net/~mary/yogeesh/ashram.html
> Chitrabhanu Ji, the spiritual head of
>Indian Jains in North America is a friend of mine.
I attended one of his lectures and read some of his books. Very good.
>Jain Shakti Mantras differ slightly from the Hindu mantras but maintain a
>similar basic sound. Most of the Jain Tantric texts on Shakti and higher
>practices (such as how yogis leave the body) have not been translated.
Have any at all been translated?
>Recently someone at Ontario did a dissertation on some aspect of Jainism for
>those interested in these matters.
That would be interesting.
The Jain monks I know have been very helpful. They talk less about
mythological images and more about practical things which apply to
everyone: subtle body etc. But they still use a very warm, colorful sort of
yoga, laughing and cheerful.
They can give Shaktipat and initiation, but want people to do a lot of
gentle yoga also. Not a set of rigid exercises. Just whateer feels right to
each person. Then they give a little help here and there, as needed.
Namaste,
Bhuvan Devi
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 11:24:54 -0700
From: Mary Ezzell <maryATnospamsonic.net>
To: <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Goddess
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At 01:56 PM 4/29/98 -0700, you wrote:
>your energy body is hermaphrodite, duality,
>and capable of making love to itself. Forever. This is the sacred marriage,
>the divine Tantric unity. The seed of light into the womb of potential.
>Your orgasm shooting inside of you and up your spine, out the top of your
>head.
How far out? :-) Seriously, I wonder if too much energy can go too far out,
up there. Leave the system altogeher, instead of recycling/fountaining back
down?
I used to try to send all the energy up and out, finally got the impression
there was a little parasite creature sitting up there eating it all....
Threw him out, closed teh crown chakra, started recycling the energy ...
much better.
Mary
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 11:24:56 -0700
From: Mary Ezzell <maryATnospamsonic.net>
To: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Chakral Sanskrit
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At 08:19 AM 4/30/98 EDT, Afperry wrote:
>If this is true, and I am not sufficiently au fait with Sanksrit to be
able to
>comment, then the chanting of Sanskrit has an important esoteric role to play
>in our spiritual development and therefore merits deeper consideration on
>practical grounds alone.
>
>Have any list members knowledge of this?
I know this certainly works, practically. :-)
Certain mantras are designed to exercise different parts of the body. It's
obvious how different sounds are made in different parts of the mouth and
throat, and we can feel different notes we sing vibrating different parts
of the head.
If we notice, we can find the same thing in other parts of the body too.
For example, there are mantras designed to vibrate each chakra. I think it
goes:
Lung -- base of spine
Wung, wong -- 2nd chak (pelvic, sexual/emotional)
Hrun, hrung -- 3rd (solar plexus/ digestion)
Yung -- heart
Hung -- throat
Om, omg -- third eye
Ing -- other parts of head
IMO the best thing is to try some of these traditional 'recipies' and
notice what variations of the sounds do in ones own body, and then
recombine them as needed. Or let K do it.... :-) Just sort of start
chanting something in the right ballpark, and K will take it over and make
it just what your body needs at that moment.
IMO it's really helpful to kind of overall survey the traditional things to
get a perspective on which are the most common techniques, then adapt the
details for oneself.
Main thing, as in learning any kind of physical thing (sport,cooking,
anything) from books ... is to use common sense and never ever do anything
that doesn't feel comfortable to *you*....
Bhuvan Devi
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 16:03:43 EDT
From: PShaw86324 <PShaw86324ATnospamaol.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Yoga Web Sites
Message-ID: <39e5bd1a.3548d921ATnospamaol.com>
Does anyone know of any good Yoga web sites?
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 16:19:27 EDT
From: Imtgxxx <ImtgxxxATnospamaol.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: To Activate or Not Activate.... that is the Question
Message-ID: <3c00cd9f.3548dcd2ATnospamaol.com>
I have a question. After having a spontaneous K awakening after heavy
meditations & study back in 93-94, I found my emotional, spiritual, and mental
(bodies?) balancing out over the years since. Prior to 93, I lived on the
rollercoaster ride of life in all 3 of those areas. I loved that these
(bodies) were *accellerated* to balance.... most likely without the K
awakening I had, it might have taken a lifetime(s).
I think it was this past Sept/Oct that I posted I was now beginning to work on
my physical body. This part of me had been ignored these past few years (and
my whole life) due to balancing the others out because of my own unbalanced
awakening (mainly due to ignorance).
I didn't luck out with my K where I was brought any uncanny urges to become a
vegetarian and all, that I've heard sometimes comes along with it. It's as if
this whole part of me *missed out* on the accelleration process.
That is why I'm whining to you now.
I have not done any meditations nor serious daily study since 94 (mainly so I
could ground myself, since I found that I would lose touch with reality when I
would do those things). I feel I am grounded enough by now to begin a more
balanced discipline in meditation and study, if need be. (hopefully!) Not
to mention also that I am now aware of Kundalini -- before I had NO idea what
was going on - just thought I had short circuited my brain or something.
Back in November of this year, I began meditating for a couple of weeks and
immediately activated my K. There was a blockage in my upper back which
caused me great pain, so I stopped. There was no losing touch with reality,
thank God. It is now dormant once again.
My (dilemma) is I want to balance this physical area of my life out. I want
it, too, to be accellerated. Right now I feel as if I'm doing the same thing
over and over as I've done my whole life, and do not see a way out of this
vicious circle.
While my K was active and due to the K explosion(s) I had, it was inevitable
that I had to balance the spiritual, mental and emotional parts of me - my
sanity depended on it. I had a clear choice -- either get sane, or stay
insane. It was easy. Kinda like the alcoholic won't help himself until he
finds himself in the gutter.
With my physical, I don't want to end up in the gutter before I am able to
help myself, to heal this part of me. Looks like that is where I am heading
tho. Maybe it is for the best - hell, I don't know.
I guess my question to all of you is.... do you think my activating my K once
again, that this physical part of me could be healed and balanced so that I
don't have to wait for the inevitable gutter party, or continue on with this
vicious circle-cycle? (maybe it'll throw me right into the gutter right away
- I don't know) LOL
Is that a reason for activating K? It was activated previously to find
mySelf -- I've ascended to heaven (and then descended into hell).
Something seems to be missing here and I don't know what. I'm kinda
embarrassed even asking all of you this, but I've been searching my heart out
for the Truth to no avail. It is the first time I have been unable to get to
the Truth when seeking it out. So I know it must be right in front of me and
I am unable to see it for some reason.
Thanks and much love to all of you.
xxxtg
* Having a bad Kundalini awakening is like
taking your lower lip and forcing it over your head *
http://members.aol.com/Teeegeee/tgsplace.html <~~~~ on the web now!
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 16:49:40 EDT
From: Imtgxxx <ImtgxxxATnospamaol.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Truth in Chicken Salad
Message-ID: <5a022eb.3548e3e5ATnospamaol.com>
I posted a quote a couple of weeks ago ... "If all else fails, look on top of
your head for your glasses". This was after I spent about a half hour
searching for my glasses, only to find them on top of my head. Seemed to also
have a double meaning too... with the crown chakra and *seeing*...
Then today at work, I was looking all over the place for the chicken salad to
make a sandwich -- I looked in all four refrigerators, searched all the table
tops, asked everyone... to no avail. Went back to where I make the
sandwiches, and there was the bowl of chick salad right in front of me,
already out, ready for serving. Duh, I didn't think of looking there, as I
always have to look for it.
So I almost posted a quote... "If you cannot find the Truth, look right in
front of you".... something like that. That was the reasoning behind my last
post and knowing the Truth, the Answer, is right here in front of me, but for
some damn reason, I cannot see it. The only thing I see is You, the List, my
computer.... So I figured maybe You are the Truth that is standing right in
front of me - You are the Chicken Salad of Life that I cannot find. LOL
This is a posting about nothing. A sorta Seinfield posting.
Later,
xxxtg
* I think, therefore I am overqualified *
http://members.aol.com/Teeegeee/tgsplace.html <~~~~ on the web now!
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 14:02:04 -0700
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: Imtgxxx <ImtgxxxATnospamaol.com>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Truth in Chicken Salad
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At 04:49 PM 30/04/98 EDT, Imtgxxx wrote:
The answer you are looking for is "Clear the blockage that is causing you
pain". Duh.
Many techniques possible, Danijel's Upstream Kriya, or the Trilight
entity clearing. Glenda Lynn is not even on this list, and she graciously
posted a clearing technique..
Or just love it to death. Tell it to transmute into light, o Limitless
Goddess.
Blessings, Mystress.
>
>This is a posting about nothing. A sorta Seinfield posting.
>
>Later,
>xxxtg
>
>* I think, therefore I am overqualified *
>
>http://members.aol.com/Teeegeee/tgsplace.html <~~~~ on the web now!
>
>
>
>
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 18:34:21 -0300
From: "Larry Schmitz" <taniaATnospamcentroin.com.br>
To: <Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>, "Mary Ezzell" <maryATnospamsonic.net>
Subject: Re: Chakral Sanskrit
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Mary wrote:
>>Have any list members knowledge of this?
>
base of spine: sound for toning: Uhhhh mantra: Lam
2nd chak (pelvic, sexual/emotional): sound for toning: Oooo mantra: vam
3rd (solar plexus/ digestion): sound for toning: Ho mantra: Ram
heart: sound for toning: Ahhh mantra: Yam
throat: sound for toning: A mantra: Ham
third eye: sound for toning: Eee mantra: Om
other parts of head (crown): sound for toning: Mmmm mantra: Aum
These work for me.
All the best,
Larry Schmitz
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Date: 30 Apr 98 22:42:36 +0000
From: "Paul West" <paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Timeless
Message-Id: <3548FE5C.MD-0.196.paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>
Hello.
I'm having a bit of a no-time day here today. My intellect doesn't
seem to have woken up with the rest of me and I feel like I haven't
experienced time at all today. It's now late evening and although I've
done a lot of things today I feel that psychologically I have not
actually experienced a days worth of time passing. Is this
transcendence?
--
Paul.
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 14:59:32 -0700
From: Kurt Keutzer <keutzerATnospameecs.berkeley.edu>
To: "'Afperry'" <AfperryATnospamaol.com>,
"Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com"
<Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: RE: Chakral Sanskrit
Message-ID: <01BD7448.960502A0.keutzerATnospameecs.berkeley.edu>
If this is true, and I am not sufficiently au fait with Sanksrit to be able
to
comment, then the chanting of Sanskrit has an important esoteric role to
play
in our spiritual development and therefore merits deeper consideration on
practical grounds alone.
Have any list members knowledge of this?
According to both Veda and Tantra Sanskrit has special characteristics. The
``classic hindu'' reference on this is in English The Garland of Letters by
John Woodroffe/Arthur Avalon. You might also check out ``Vak'' by Andre
Padoux. Buddhist Tantra also holds Sanskrit as having divine influence. I
don't know of any translated reference on this but this teaching comes down
through the Cakrasamvara Tantra.
This is all fun stuff. However, for me the relevance of Sanskrit it that it
is THE primary language of 1000 years of material on kundalini related
experiences and yogas. Tibetan is also a good choice. There is a good deal
of material that is in Tibetan but not in Sanskrit, but without some
knowledge of Sanskrit much of the works in Tibetan will not be fully
appreciated. Every other language (including Chinese) is pretty distant.
So maybe there's an analogy with music. You can enjoy music without being
able to read it or read music theory. But if you can read music and read
music theory your enjoyment is certain to be deepened.
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