1998/04/27 09:24
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #337
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 337
Today's Topics:
unsubscribe [ Scott Coleman <scottcolATnospamu.washingto ]
Re: kundalini-l (was RE: unsuscribe) [ anandajyoti <anandajyotiATnospamgeocities. ]
Re: kundalini-l (was RE: unsuscribe) [ freda <fredaATnospamblarg.net> ]
RE: Nadis and their location [ "Joseph Miller" <joemillerATnospamhotmail. ]
Re: Revelling [ "Brent Blalock" <blal0004ATnospammaroon.tc ]
Re: allnighter [ "Paul West" <paulATnospamstationone.demon. ]
Spirit guide [ "Paul West" <paulATnospamstationone.demon. ]
*even* in the NORTH! [ melintonATnospamalison.sbc.edu ]
Re: kundalini-l (was RE: unsuscribe) [ "Paul West" <paulATnospamstationone.demon. ]
K-list posting Members pay attention [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpent ]
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 07:35:28 -0700
From: Scott Coleman <scottcolATnospamu.washington.edu>
To: "'kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com'" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: unsubscribe
Message-ID: <01BD71AF.0CE9B420ATnospamD-128-95-206-130.dhcp.washington.edu>
This is too much traffic for me.
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 07:51:08 -0700
From: anandajyoti <anandajyotiATnospamgeocities.com>
To: "keutzerATnospameecs.berkeley.edu" <keutzerATnospameecs.berkeley.edu>
CC: "'DrEOC'" <DrEOCATnospamaol.com>,
"kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: kundalini-l (was RE: unsuscribe)
Message-ID: <35449B5C.3895AB00ATnospamgeocities.com>
With the volume of the e-mail on this list on not so pertinent submissions and
uninvolved with K-related subject matter, it would be convenient for may if
the participants who wish to chat on a particular thred subject ,instead of
involving the entire list should endeavor to do so on a one to one basis.
That would decrease the volume too. Otherwise , the only way to be effective
for individual listers is to spend the time and energy on the deletions. Which
IMHO is a drag, as the time could well be spent on some other interests.
I do agree with Kurt , Freda, Jan, Richard Sharon, and the others who hold the
similar views and ideas of reducing impertinent volume on this list.
What does the Mystress opine on this issue.
Anandajyoti
Kurt Keutzer wrote:
>
>
>
> Please unsubscribe me. Your letters have jammed my mailbox in 2 days.
> Hundreds
> of letters.
> Thank you anyway
> DrEOCATnospamAOL.com
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 07:57:31 -0700
From: freda <fredaATnospamblarg.net>
To: anandajyoti <anandajyotiATnospamgeocities.com>
CC: "kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: kundalini-l (was RE: unsuscribe)
Message-ID: <35449CDB.77F1ATnospamblarg.net>
Hey, all,
Just to be clear....I am NOT clear...
I am unsure of what IS pertinent.
I am pretty sure this particular post is NOT k related.
sorry,
freda
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 07:57:46 PDT
From: "Joseph Miller" <joemillerATnospamhotmail.com>
To: keutzerATnospameecs.berkeley.edu
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: RE: Nadis and their location
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Kurt wrote:
>
>KK: Since your teacher is just down the block now perhaps you could ask
him
>to explain a bit why he thinks that 1) vajra is not in the sushumna and
2)
>why he (I presume it is he) think that it does not extend the full
length
>of the sushumna, as you mentioned earlier. It is not Woodroffe that we
are
>debating about here it is the meaning of the text. You can read the
>Sanskrit if you prefer.
>
>Su.sumnaa madhya deshetu vajraakhyaanaadi cai shubha (.s is retroflex
sha)
>
>Quoted in Devatma Shakti p 61
>
>The depiction that Woodroffe translates is consistent with many other
>sources. Swami Shivom Tirth personally explained to me the relative
>placement of the three nadis in this way.But I don't think that the
issue
>is who is right or wrong. All of these terms are just names that yogis
give
>to their experiences. The interesting question is how did your teacher
come
>to name these nadis in this way. If he relies on Sat cakra nirupana
then
>precisely how does he translate the relevant verses. What in his
experience
>has led him to make this distinction. All that would be great stuff to
>hear. OK?
Kurt,
It will be awhile before I will see him (at least in list time) we get
together about once a week, we do miss a few every now and again. I'll
try to make an appointment later today/tonight for sometime this week
and talk about this along with my usual stuff.
Before talking to him can we at least agree at these points:
1) No matter where Vajra lies, unlike Susumna, Citrini, and Brahma
(S/C/B), Vajra does not cause a permanent rising to a given chakra (i.e.
Ajna), that is the energy will fall back to root chakra and not stay at
the chakra, which it can do at the higher chakras if it goes up through
S/C/B?
2) Nor does a Vajra rising allow for a chance for enlightenment
unless the K. can be redirected to one of those other nadis (before Ajna
when K. has to get on Brahma for the last run no matter how it got to
Ajna)?
Namaste,
Joe
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Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 10:10:56 -0500
From: "Brent Blalock" <blal0004ATnospammaroon.tc.umn.edu>
To: "Angela Mary Broad" <ambroadATnospamacs.ucalgary.ca>
Cc: "Kundalini - L" <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: Re: Revelling
Message-Id: <3544a0ae2ff9002ATnospammhub3.tc.umn.edu>
> From: Angela Mary Broad <ambroadATnospamacs.ucalgary.ca>
> To: Paul West <paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>
> Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com; kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
> Subject: Re: Revelling
> Date: Sunday, April 26, 1998 7:00 PM
>
> I have heard what you are saying about heaven and heall and comparisons
> and everything. I wonder, do you know about Maldelbrot sets and
fractals,
> and other re-occuring patterns like the spiral/golden ratio etc? I would
> like to think the universe is like that, everything self simmilar,
> beautiful intricite patterns repeating everywhere and yet so chaotic and
> so orderly, so contained and this is perhaps how you resolve order and
> chaos, with real-live dimensional-universal love mandelbrot sets.
I thought fractal universes, too. Fascinating, it is.
> For me, individuality is sacred. Perhaps it is
> ego, but to loose that, to be just like everyone else all the time, I'd
> never fly again...that wich I feel brings me closer to God, singing,
> flying Hang Gliders, spending hours in the forest alone sensing the trees
> and sunny skies, I cannot give up, that is me!! maybe this is ego, but I
> have always wonderd what's so bad about that? I'm not better, heck no but
> happy with who I am..
When I'm reading a Yoga-type book, sometimes I think something along the
lines of, "I don't want to give 'myself' up. I like myself. I don't
wanna' sit around all day and not think anything, either. I like
daydreaming."
A woman who taught me Yoga who lived kind of a minimal lifestyle (no TV, no
radio, no chocolate, very quiet house, etc.) said that people told her, "It
must be tough giving up TV and all that stuff." She said, "I haven't given
up anything." She didn't just throw those things away. She traded them
for something of equal or greater value (inner peace, more free time,
healthier body, etc.).
Only evil people (corrupt-guru-types) are asking you to throw away
everything you like. When people talk about killing their ego or avoiding
pursuing pleasure, they don't want you to give up something that causes you
fulfillment. They're saying that those things are fake, that those things
ultimately only bring pain and suffering, and that there's something real
underneath it all.
If you sit around and meditate or use a bunch of LSD or use some other
method(s) of self-realization, you may catch a glimpse of what they're
talking about (you may see yourSelf). It's then that you'll probably
understand better how "killing your ego" and "giving things up" helps
spiritual progress.
My advice: sing, fly hang gliders, run around in the forest. What people
say is bad about seeking pleasure is that it keeps you bonded to the
material world. But I don't think anyone can give up the material world
until they've seen what's beyond. That's an experience... something you
have to see for yourself in order to use it in your life. In the mean
time, just have fun.
If you're still curious about why people believe what they believe, you
could try reading autobiographies of people who became enlightened or
became gurus or something. That'd let you read about the experiences that
lead them to believe what they believe.
Date: 27 Apr 98 15:40:49 +0000
From: "Paul West" <paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: allnighter
Message-Id: <3544A700.MD-0.196.paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>
> I spent about 8 years pulling 12 hour all nighters as a nurse in
> critical units in hospitals. Seems like a lot of people die just before
> the sun comes up. Don't know if that qualifies for spiritual liberation.
Hmm. I have never had much to do with death myself. When I retook my
GCSE English Language course when I started college there was a woman
who had cancer and was dying and I found out later she had died but I
didn't feel particularly upset. I remember also being in hospital for
an x-ray (i think) many years ago and seeing down the end of the
corridoor a man laying on a portable bed and I think he was dead. But
other than that I don't know anyone who has died and haven't seen anyone
dead and I think that's a bit unusual.
> I actually got healthier once I turned my internal clock around from
> night to day. Rather than staying up all night i would recommend
> getting up around 430 AM which is about the time I awaken naturally.
You wake up at 4:30 naturally? Blimey. Although I like mornings
occasionally I'm not really a morning person, I don't usually feel up
to facing the world until I've got up and been up some hours so that I
feel settled and awake and unrushed.
> If you go outside you can feel the change in the earth as the sun goes
> up. There is an instant where the earth changes from yin to yang, there
> is a silent outbreath from Gaia right before the sun comes up. Its an
> eternal still moment...very quiet.
I do remember that morning being very quiet.
--
Paul.
Date: 27 Apr 98 16:18:26 +0000
From: "Paul West" <paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Spirit guide
Message-Id: <3544AFD2.MD-0.196.paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>
Hello.
I've been on the internet for just over a week now and have been
monitoring this mailing list for nearly as long. I thought I might
relate to you what happened when I tried to contact a spirit guide a
few years ago.
I had only just started my spiritual awakening back at the end of 1994
and was doing a lot of intellectual inquiry. I was looking into just
about anything unusual, paranormal, mystical, esoteric, or whatever. I
had been attempting to have out of body experiences, with minor
success and was very `into' the discovery of new realities, some of
which was not pleasant at the time.
One time came when a friend I was talking to via electronic
communication means talked of something he did to get in contact with
a spirit guide. He had composed a kind of meditation in which he
imagined himself on a sandy shore watching a boat came in, and on the
boat was supposed to be a guide who he would them talk to. I had got a
book from my local library about self-hypnosis so I decided to combine
the two.
I sat at my computer one afternoon and wrote a script for a
self-hypnosis, bases on some of the methods in the book. It started
with number counting and going down in a lift and so on. It then
progressed to a beautiful walk in a paradisical place with clear
waters in which I swam and lazing under the palm trees and stuff.
There were other parts designed to remove fears such as a large moth
which landed on me and then I brushed it away with affirmations of it
having gone. I then would proceed down a path to the golden shore with
crystal clear blue-green waters. Then on the horizon would appear
something which would transform eventually into a small boat and as it
got closer I would make out a guide. I would then supposedly talk with
him and ask him (or her) and ask them questions.
By the time I finished writing the script, the writing of it /itself/
had had a partial hypnotic effect on me and I was feeling extremely
relaxed and happy. It was a very positive creative process. That night
I got out the tape recorder and began to commit the text to tape. It
was difficult and I felt so nervous I kept stumbling on the words, and
I was sure it must look a bit silly to anyone who might be listening
in. It was a real struggle and took a lot of determination, which
itself was a useful tool. Once completed I relaxed a while and then
came back to it as the hours were just past midnight.
I started first doing simple relaxation like I had been doing for my
out of body experienc attempts, as well as some simple yoga which I
had found to have an additional relaxing effect. I lay on the bed with
headphones on and began the tape. I listened to it, it wasn't done
very well but I tried to follow what it was suggesting. The sound of
my own voice almost put me off so I had to be even more focussed. I
went through the various visualisations and it was extremely relaxing,
even more than what I was used to with the OOBE attempts. I got all
the way through to the end but I didn't /seem/ to be hypnotised. I
figured I'd done my best but that it just didn't really work so I went
to bed.
In the night I had a dream. It started with me standing on a square of
concrete surrounded by brick walls with a roaring ocean lapping at all
sides. Then my mother appeared and I hugged her really big like I
hadn't seen her for a long time. Then there was this scene in which
from a distance I saw my mum and dad laying under a bush and I thought
they were dead but they got up and came over and told me they were
worried about me and that I should have told them where I was and
stuff.
Following this I entered a kind of hypnogigic state which you could
call an out of body experience except i wasn't /completely/ out of
body. My arms were outstretched into the air. At this point in my life
my bed was up against the wall so if I had touched anything it would
have been physically impossible in the normal world. And yet, I found
a hand of a man. It was big, and it implied (in comparison to my
physical body) that this man was very tall (8-10 feet!). His hand was
huge, it was his left hand. Slowly I explored the hand, feeling around
the fingers and the fleshyness of it. I then found the fingernails
which were large and manly. I felt a great sense of peace and that
there was no agenda, only freedom. I explored further the hand and
eventually I had found enough of it that I went go grip. I gripped the
hand and it gripped mine as if doing a hand-shake, and I think we
/did/ do a handshake. Then I woke up fully in the physical. My hands
at first felt detatched, still in the other world. But then I looked
to see where they were, they were tucked up tighly under the
bedcovers. And for the man to have been there in the physical world he
would have had to have been /inside/ the bed and the wall. I was very
happy at this point so none of that really mattered, it just was real.
So it seemed that after all my attempt to contact someone succeeded. I
recall also that right at the end of the dream which came beforehand
the man said to me "I thought we'd lost you there for a moment".
I have had other things happen to me over the last few years. I was
comically woken one morning by a voice which said "psst" and which
originated from the center of my skull right between both ears.
Another morning I was woken by a serious woman's voice saying hello.
Not many months ago when things were getting rough in life a similar
large man's hand gently rested on my shoulder and touched me to the
extent that it felt physical.
--
Paul.
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 11:23:48 -0400
From: melintonATnospamalison.sbc.edu
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: *even* in the NORTH!
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>
>I remember being at an "Undoing Racism" workshop I had to attend for my job
>at the time. I was pretty ignorant about the extent that racism still
>permeates society, even in the North.
amckeon:
PLEASE don't get into this with me! I am so godamm sick of sanctimonius
white Yankees assuming that just because of their geographic location they
are somehow above & beyond feelings of discomfort with people of different
backgounds!
It just ain't so and in *fact* blacks & whites have been living shoulder to
shoulder in the South for several centuries now, whereas all the
enlightened people who live in the the NORTH for the most part have had
*comparatively* little contact with black people.
gosh! I wonder who has more experience facing their differences and working
out problems? Could it be Southerners? Why yes! I believe it is ...
South bashing is the LAST acceptable prejudice in America and on this list
at least I'm bringing it to a screeching halt!
--Signalfire
The web site you seek
cannot be located but
endless others exist
---- Joy Rothke from Haiku
Error Message competition at Salon
Date: 27 Apr 98 15:51:30 +0000
From: "Paul West" <paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: kundalini-l (was RE: unsuscribe)
Message-Id: <3544A982.MD-0.196.paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>
Kurt:
> Does anyone else think that we are loosing the forest for the trees in this
> list? I think it's sad that each week (perhaps each day) we lose another
> person who apparently had a genuine interest in kundalini because they
> can't keep up with the message traffic - 90% of which is not directly
> kundalini related (oh yes, I remember kundalini embraces all of life).
I feel a little responsible for this noise myself although I am NOT
totally to `blame'. I know that I find it hard to use individual lists
or newsgroups for talking exclusively about a particular topic. I
don't feel that such exclusion is natural or realistic. I usually talk
about a whole selection of things in all of the lists of groups I am
connected to, lots and lots of overlapping of topics. I have always
been like this myself. I know it would be useful to many people as you
say to have a dedicated kundalini list that is only to do with
kundalini in a kind of serious, almost scientific sort of way, but I
feel for me at least that such an approach is in some ways also
against the very holisticity of it all. Some people find it real easy
to talk about one topic in focus but I personally do not. I hope I
haven't driven anyone away, I know I to talk about myself rather a
lot. But even in amongst the fun and `chat' there are very serious
avenues as well and I think the two belong together.
> Some of us are subscribed because we are genuinely interested in kundalini
> - not because we are looking for a chat room or because we are looking for
> a `` spiritual group''. Unfortunately (in my mind) as time has gone on the
> focus of conversation has gone farther and farther away from kundalini. As
> a result to many of those WHO ACTUALLY ARE INTERESTED IN KUNDALINI get up
> and leave. Leaving the list to those who are interested in ... well, how
> would you characterize it?
This strikes me as sounding a little like my sister who will often
turn up the volume on the TV if she thinks too many people are talking
rather than learning to concentrate. However, no offence or anything,
I do think there are people who just want a safe haven, a spiritual
group, a place free of restraint, and that can lead to a bit of ego
coming through and a lack of disciplin. Still, people are at different
stages with their kundalini, some find it plays a major part in their
life and others find it is just something stirring in the background.
> I'd like to hear publicly or privately from the members about this.
> Whenever I get in side discussions I hear recurrently that people are
> disappointed at the amount of chatting volume - but whenever the question
> is raised at large people tend to be afraid to raise a fuss but as a vote
> of one I feel that the signal to noise ratio of the list is way out of
> hand.
I empathise with you. Personally when choosing which forum to post a
certain message in I do have several to choose from so hopefully all
the kundalini-related things end up on the k list and other stuff ends
up on other `spiritual group' lists. Anyway, it depends also on what
other people think which I don't know about.
--
Paul.
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 01:11:57 -0700
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: "keutzerATnospameecs.berkeley.edu" <keutzerATnospameecs.berkeley.edu>
Cc: "kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: K-list posting Members pay attention!!
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Hello:
Kurt, I am entirely in agreement with you, and have been weighing in my
mind what to do about it. I was gone for a few days and I came back to
nearly 700 messages.. not all of them were K-list mail, but the majority
were. We are up to five or 6 digests per day, at >32k each.
I have been watching the traffic slowly creeping up for a while, but that
was really a wake up call that it is out of control.
That is simply too much for anyone to keep up with. Scanning the digests,
there was a lot of noise..
(Glo+ Jerry.. Get a room. Lobster.. stop picking fights. I am getting
requests to unsub you again.. it's nice to take folks apart to see what
makes 'em tick, but you must be able to put them together again.. focus on
your own healing and stop looking for the mote in the eye of another.
Please.)
What is up, is personal experiences, (Loba and Paul) and I think this is
a good thing, tho perhaps our new members need to be aware that this is a
list of about 400 folks.. bandwidth is a valuable resource, so share nice
and don't be greedy. We understand about the enthusiasm of newness..
thankyou for posting but hopefully it has worn off a little. :)
I have been aware of list traffic creeping up up up and that is why on
occasion I have singled out those who do not snip.. in a vain effort to
slow the inevitable traffic increase as the member numbers go up.
But lack of snippage was not the main reason for the massive traffic
lately.. and I hate to squash folks enthusiasm, but 5 digests a day is Too
much!
One thought I have had, is to split the list. The first split was the
K-sex list, and it is doing well, tho it is a private list and there is no
cross-posting. It has evolved into it's own separate entity..
The K-phenomena list seems to have died.. not for lack of enthusiasm, it
had over 40 members.. but the server seems to be dead.. (It was a free
service.. so whaddya want for nothing?? ) While it was active it was a good
list.
I have been considering how to subdivide the list in order to give it
more room to grow. It is only going to keep getting bigger.. sorry, but I
see it as inevitable.. we are in a k-flare wave across the planet. Age of
Aquarius and all that.. mass consciousness shift.. the exponential growth
of the 'net.
The only other option is for me to begin moderating traffic, and I don't
wanna. Sorry.
The only traffic I would be interested in moderating, is the cross
posting between the lists, if they are split.. only because I don't want
another Heartzen type avalanche.. folks hit "reply to all" without looking
at who "all" includes.. defeating the purpose of having separate lists.
However, better spam proofing would help that cause..
My initial thoughts are to create several new lists, more specialized to
the various interests I have seen cropping up repeatedly. One would be the
new K-phenomena list, and perhaps a K-sanskrit list. Another K-sex list
that is a bit less intimate and does not require a vote to get into.. and
mebbie a K-support list for those seeking the comfort of chatting about
daily k-inspired stuff in a supportive environment. Mebbie even a K-poetry
list.. and one for folks who like to forward stuff they haven't written
themselves. (eh, Lobster?) But a website is a better place for it.
Folks who have the time and inclination will subscribe to all or several
of them. Or look at them in the archives.
I am just brainstorming at this point.. and looking for suggestions..
privately please.. let's not waste too much bandwidth on the issue of
bandwidth. I'll report back the results..
This split if it happens won't be tomorrow or next week.. and migration
to other lists will be voluntary, of course.. and in the meantime I would
ask folks to consider these points before you hit Queue and fire a post off
to the list:
What percentage of the 400 members of this list is this post likely to
be of interest to? If it is less than 10 percent, reconsider how the other
90% will feel having to download and open a message that is of no interest
to them.
Consensuality... the reason they agreed to receive your mail.. was
because you joined a list that talks about kundalini.. not noisy neighbors
and potato salad. Tho these too may be about Kundalini.. Goddess is All
that Is.. but think twice and thrice before loading the mailboxes of 400
folks with trivia.. Pleeeze on my knees for the wellbeing and health of the
list, send more mail direct!
Ask yourself: Is it really about your kundalini experience? Is this
information that is likely to be helpful, useful or interesting to the
majority of list members?
Novices understandably need to talk about their symptoms and events to
know that they are normal.. and learn to relax and go with the flow.. the
list will always be responsive to cries for help.. but that is not what is
overloading the mailboxes and causing folks to flee.. it is simply the chat
noises. The petty arguments about a small point of language. The
conversations that would be better taken off the list to be resolved.. you
can always post to the list after of your conclusions, if you come to any..
I have always held the reins very lightly on this list.. figuring that a
gathering of partially or whatever enlightened beings ought to function
perfectly as a civilized anarchy.. and I do hate to be stifling folks
creative expressions.. as Kurt sez we try to be tactful.. but the list is
growing too big for some practicality.
Ask yourself before posting, is the post "service to self" or "service to
other"?
Is it vanity of wanting attention, sympathy, or to appear intelligent,
perceptive, witty or charming, or is it in service to the needs and
interests of the list members?
Basically, where is the ego involvement in posting?
K-fire brings up ego issues, sho-nuff, and looking at them is what we
do.. so I think rethinking communications on the list in this way is a good
basic guideline for posting.
If you are looking for assistance for yourself wrestling with your ego,
then post.. but if you are trying to look cute, witty or have spontaneously
decided to be a guru for somebody who hasn't asked for one, please
reconsider your ego needs and spare us the bandwidth.
I don't want to be unkind.. but what Kurt is speaking of, I have seen
coming for a while. More members means more traffic, and more traffic means
playing closer attention to the "rules of the road". It has room for us all
to go places, if we share it courteously.
Some rules to watch out for:
Oversize vehicles: Post resent unsnipped take up a lotta room and are
irritatingly boring and repetitive. Trust the members to have the brains to
remember what went before, and delete all but a line or two of the post you
are responding to. Or, even, all of it.
Expired licence plates: Too often a thread changes radically and the
subject header stays the same.. this is particularly annoying when the
original header said "Autopost from the KRC". The original poster has no
choice of the subject line, so please change it to reflect their name and
topic. Example: <Subject: Joe, neck shivers.(was KRC post)>
A subject header appropriate to the topic makes it more likely your post
will get read. Look at it this way.. folks might abandon a thread that does
not interest them, and it may change to one that does and they will never
know.. coz the subject has not changed.
Ego drunk driving without a licence.. the thing to watch out for... if we
keep that one down, I think everything else will take care of itself..
Blessings Mystress.
At 06:57 PM 26/04/98 -0700, Kurt Keutzer wrote:
>Does anyone else think that we are loosing the forest for the trees in this
>list?
<...>
Whenever I get in side discussions I hear recurrently that people are
>disappointed at the amount of chatting volume - but whenever the question
>is raised at large people tend to be afraid to raise a fuss but as a vote
>of one I feel that the signal to noise ratio of the list is way out of
>hand.
>Kurt
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