1998/04/24 12:30
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #327
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 327
Today's Topics:
Re: more tests for enlightenment (wa [ Jerry Katz <umbadaATnospamns.sympatico.ca> ]
Re: Delirium's guide to the universe [ amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us ]
Re: Delirium's guide to the universe [ amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us ]
Re: Submissions Wanted (Was Re: Trut [ Harsha1MTM <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com> ]
Re: The Nature of Self-Realization [ Afperry <AfperryATnospamaol.com> ]
Re: Re: The Nature of Self-Realizati [ Harsha1MTM <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com> ]
Directions for those going the other [ "Ed Jason" <lobATnospamlineone.net> ]
Re: Loba's Intro, additional [ amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us ]
Pranayama - nadi sodhana and sukh pu [ Tom_I_BradleyATnospamEURO.CCMAIL.compuserv ]
Re: Pranayama - nadi sodhana and suk [ anandajyoti <anandajyotiATnospamgeocities. ]
Re: Delirium's guide to the universe [ Dan Margolis <margolisATnospamtransbay.net ]
Re: small big thing [ hbarrettATnospamix.netcom.com (Holly N. Ba ]
Re: curious (Paul) [ amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us ]
Re: some K--symptoms [ hbarrettATnospamix.netcom.com (Holly N. Ba ]
I am Cement [ amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us ]
Re: Directions for those going the o [ Harsha1MTM <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com> ]
A Letter from God [ amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us ]
Re: curious (ashanka) [ amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us ]
unsuscribe [ "Cara McCormack" <caradeepaATnospamhotmail ]
current events insights [ Briony123 <Briony123ATnospamaol.com> ]
Re: current events insights [ amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us ]
Re: Delirium's guide to the universe [ Paul West <paulATnospamstationone.demon.co ]
Re: The Nature of Self-Realization-( [ Harsha1MTM <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com> ]
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 08:44:10 -0700
From: Jerry Katz <umbadaATnospamns.sympatico.ca>
To: lobATnospamlineone.net, rik_wATnospamrocketmail.com
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: more tests for enlightenment (was Re: curious)
Message-ID: <3540B34A.AF7ATnospamns.sympatico.ca>
What is it with the tests for enlightenment? If a person has a need to
know the qualities of the enlightened one, let's not talk a person out
of that but rather into that.
I might start by asking, Why does the seeker want to know what those
qualities are?
Assuming the answer is that the seeker would like to be able to identify
the enlightened one as well take steps toward becoming one, I would then
ask, Why does the seeker wish to identify or become the Enlighened One?
I would continue this line of questioning until no further questions
could be asked and the seeker has given the deepest answer possible.
But I wouldn't (nor could I) satisfy the seeker by directly answering
her or his question. And I wouldn't even begin this process of asking
Why unless I was sure the seeker was earnest about spiritual growth and
not merely curious.
It is certainly a healthy question, I would say, and a tight springboard
for spiritual growth. But the question, like every other question, must
be re-directed within, whether by means of the Why Method or the more
traditional, Who is Asking The Question method.
...Jerry
______________
The Why Method for Leveraging Spiritual Life
http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/umbada/why.htm
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 08:09:46 -0500
From: amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Delirium's guide to the universe (Kathy)
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8. If they're willing to hire me, I probably don't want the job.
signed,
amckeon
(aka Maynard G. Krebbs)
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 08:09:57 -0500
From: amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Delirium's guide to the universe (Dan)
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Dan Margolis said:
7> If I don't like something it's a bad thing.
Do you mean that the "something" is bad? or
You are a bad person for not liking "it"?
Or the act of not liking something (anything) is bad?
probably not liking raw monkey brains fresh out of the skull for lunch,
amckeon
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 09:25:32 EDT
From: Harsha1MTM <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com>
To: umbadaATnospamns.sympatico.ca, Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com, amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Submissions Wanted (Was Re: Truth and Love-Self-Realization)
Message-ID: <7a234e5e.354092cdATnospamaol.com>
A Tribute from The Dalai Lama
The heritage of India is enriched with numberless saints and yogis. Ramana
Maharshi represents that tradition and his spiritual greatness is guiding
millions of people. Such masters light the path and bring solace to suffering
humanity.
The Dalai Lama
Swarg Ashram
Upper Dharmsala
Kangra/Punjab
November 5, 1965
- from The Mountain Path
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 10:05:09 EDT
From: Afperry <AfperryATnospamaol.com>
To: Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com
Cc: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: The Nature of Self-Realization
Message-ID: <9d5323da.35409c16ATnospamaol.com>
Dear Harsha,
You wrote:
>The Self is not attained through discourses, nor through intellectuality, nor
>through much learning. It is gained only by him who longs for It with his
>whole heart. To such a one the Self reveals Its own nature.
>—Mundakoponishad
Ahh, yes Harsha, very beautiful......but the very next sloka adds an important gloss that we overlook at our peril!
"Not by the weak, not by the unearnest, not by those who practice wrong disciplines can the Self be realized. The Self reveals Himself as the Lord of Love to the one who practices right disciplines." (Trans. Easwaran)
With blessings,
Alan
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 10:19:31 EDT
From: Harsha1MTM <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com>
To: umbadaATnospamns.sympatico.ca, Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Re: The Nature of Self-Realization
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In a message dated 4/23/1998, 8:58:55 PM, umbadaATnospamns.sympatico.ca writes:
<<Harsha1MTM wrote:
>
> The Self is not attained through discourses, nor through intellectuality,
nor
> through much learning. It is gained only by him who longs for It with his
> whole heart. To such a one the Self reveals Its own nature.
> ?Mundakoponishad
>
> Harsha: I was overwhelmed by the Beauty of this statement. That is my
> experience. It is the plain and the simple Truth. I bow to the Realized
> Sages whose lives of immaculate purity, devotion, selfless service and love
> reveal the flame of the Divine hidden in the Heart.
>
> How easy it is to sing
> now that gone is my voice
> How easy it is to see
> now that there is no choice
>
> >From the love poetry of Harsha
Jerry: Very beautiful. The clarity is striking. More of your poetry!
>>
Harsha: Okay Jerry. Just for you buddy. I have not given it a title yet.
Any suggestions are welcome.
How hard it is to hear
when you only have one ear
How hard it is to eat
after the Dentist pulls two teeth
How hard it is to see
when your eyes number three
Still with a patch over one eye
you can have a social life
especially if you are not too shy
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 14:10:46 -0700
From: "Ed Jason" <lobATnospamlineone.net>
To: "Kundalini list" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Directions for those going the other way
Message-Id: <199804241457.PAA28185ATnospamboober.lineone.net>
DIRECTION
Human endeavours are largely motivated by greed and self
interest, whatever the professed purpose. The first task
is to become aware of this in both oneself, other people
and the structures that reinforce and sanctify such
behaviour. We may also become aware (through observation)
of behaviour and frameworks that are independent of self
interest, greed or self perpetuation. The enlightened
perspective is impartial and balanced between human needs
and the higher imperative.
The undeveloped, primitive personality that needs to be
refined (and initially one needs to be aware of) will
rarely profit from insight because of the way such
knowledge will be distorted. It is however possible for
others who are more suitably attuned to profit.
It is true discrimination between diversion and genuine
aspiration that generally precedes the emergence of the
capacity to understand. The demand for regularity and
system is a human tendency. This can be fulfilled in many
forms. The role of the effective individual is to see
much more, further and more objectively than others. By
exercising this capacity and that of knowledge, progress
is constant.
People have through false expectation and lack of genuine
understanding assumed that spiritual individuals are
'nice'. However true spiritual people are beyond such
considerations. To help people you must be independent of
their opinions of you.
Genuine spirituality is based on effective service and
transformation of the individual. The wishy-washy
positive reinforcement that occurs in some groups
produces stagnation and bland, weak individuals. True
spirituality might produce pain and conflict in such a
setting.
Well balanced people do not resent the fact that people
through life or study have gained various skills. When
mystics assert and demonstrate wisdom, knowledge and
perception people refuse to acknowledge this. It is for
this reason that the process of progress has been
internalised as much as possible.
Knowledge in the past was acceptably attributed to divine
inspiration. As long as the person was virtuous according
to the morality of the time they would not be considered
demonic. In the present time the same experience is
acceptably expressed in terms of science or psychology.
The scientific study of mysticism was carried out by
Kabbalah in the Judaic tradition, Gnosticism in the
Christian, Sufism under Islam, Vedanta in Hinduism and so
on. The esoteric became a hidden store of wisdom. These
peoples ideas and influence motivated and stabilised
their respective cultures. The written, oral and other
transmissions are continually referred to as sources of
inspiration.
The continual assessment, interpretation and developing
understanding that comes from study of such materials
verifies their usefulness. This process results at
certain times in a further addition to work that can be
passed on in this way. The multi-level meanings in such
material allows for the flexible mind to be activated.
Well engineered efforts are for the development of the
people concerned, the growth of wider society or its
protection/redirection and the continuation of a
perceivable mystic legacy. Such behaviour is true social
engineering, independent of the false ideologies that
attempt such change without recourse to a higher
imperative or actual information on the correct
direction.
It is quite natural to prefer the company of those with
similar understanding. This may not be possible, though
such people are everywhere. Various groups and
individuals will purport to be the way to enlightenment.
Ask them for the results; the finished product. Such false
groups have a varied and often preposterous position from
which they expect advancement. The only value of such
entities is self amusement and veiling spirituality. The
superficial think the ridiculous is the total of
spirituality.
Lobster (from Beyond Enlightenment)
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 10:17:25 -0600
From: amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Loba's Intro, additional
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I also enjoyed your story of playing in the light of the stained glass and
how the colors would stay with you...
During my major k-flare I saw an illusion of a stained glass window
depicting what I interpreted as the Virgin Mary (I am not, nor have I ever
been Catholic, by the by). I walked toward it in an effort to merge with
it, thinking this would make me purified? holy? good? I can't remember just
now... But the closer I got the more the colors faded. As I pressed my hot
face against the cool glass, I somehow felt comforted anyway.
amckeon
(the multicolored)
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 10:57:55 -0400
From: Tom_I_BradleyATnospamEURO.CCMAIL.compuserve.com
To: "INTERNET:kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com" <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: Pranayama - nadi sodhana and sukh purvakh
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Hi,
It's my understanding that these pranayama exercises cleanse / purify /
unblock the nadis. I'm thinking of practicing them as part of my kundalini
training. Might I then expect to be spared the less pleasant manifestations of
k-arousal or not? Please let me knoe.
Thanks,
Tom
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 08:28:34 -0700
From: anandajyoti <anandajyotiATnospamgeocities.com>
To: Tom_I_BradleyATnospamEURO.CCMAIL.compuserve.com
CC: "INTERNET:kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com" <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: Re: Pranayama - nadi sodhana and sukh purvakh
Message-ID: <3540AFA2.44D6CBB5ATnospamgeocities.com>
Yes, if one chooses to be intentional, conscious and aware, focusing on the heart
or the head chakra.
Anandajyoti
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/6782
Tom_I_BradleyATnospamEURO.CCMAIL.compuserve.com wrote:
> Hi,
>
> It's my understanding that these pranayama exercises cleanse / purify /
> unblock the nadis. I'm thinking of practicing them as part of my kundalini
> training. Might I then expect to be spared the less pleasant manifestations of
> k-arousal or not? Please let me knoe.
> Thanks,
> Tom
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 09:04:06 -0700
From: Dan Margolis <margolisATnospamtransbay.net>
To: amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us,
Kundalini Mailing List <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Delirium's guide to the universe (Dan)
Message-ID: <3540B7F5.B04974D3ATnospamtransbay.net>
> Do you mean that the "something" is bad?
Yes
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 10:55:43 -0500 (CDT)
From: hbarrettATnospamix.netcom.com (Holly N. Barrett, Ph.D.)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: small big thing
Message-Id: <199804241555.KAA05259ATnospamdfw-ix16.ix.netcom.com>
Edward -- "on the sidelines," my foot; only if you keep seeing yourself
there. One of the intriguing things about this process is how
integrative it is. Kundalini awakening is a continuum; it is our
awareness of it that takes quantum jumps. You'll notice reading the
posts that people, as they wake up, go back further and further into
their lives and say "oh, THAT'S what that was" as entire histories
become reconfigured in the context of new understanding. Sooner or
later there is nothing but kundalini, or God. Take yourself seriously.
Holly
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 11:06:06 -0600
From: amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: curious (Paul)
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Paul:
The real spiritual people don't hurt me in any way.
Me:
Maybe you are mistaking kindness and meekness for spirituality. (Although
they may be components, they are not the whole enchilada.)
Paul:
I can see the difference between children who have not been brought up
properly and those who have wonderful, delightful, freedom and acceptance.
Me:
Which are you?
Paul:
I see selfishness as uglyness.
Me:
Do you see the selfish part of yourself as ugly too? It may be helpful to
accept and love that "greedy inner child" we all possess. If you don't, it
may bite you when you least expect it.
Paul:
People my own age seem to enjoy doing things that I think of as wrong.
Me:
Judgement isn't helpful. Change comes after aceptance.
Paul:
And when a stranger comes up to me with their strange character....
Me:
I have been there. My opinion is that it is a "boundary" thing. You fear
you have no control over how close other people get to you, so you have a
thick but mushy shell that surrounds you and when people get as close as
about 2 ft. you fear that means that they are now able come all the way in
to your soul. If your boundary was sturdier it would not need to be so
thick. Building your own strength and having confidence in your own (or a
higher power's) ability to protect you from any real (as opposed to
imagined) danger, will do wonders.
Paul:
I don't like change as to me it indicates time and great effort and stress.
Me:
Change will often happen on its own. No effort. No stress. The wheel will turn.
Paul:
I wouldn't mind all that much if things stayed the same....
Me:
Misery is sometimes preferable to change. Better the devil you know that
the one you don't, as they say.
Paul:
One of the most important parts of being a religious man... is to be both
male and female...
Me:
Yep.
Paul:
I seem to get sidetracked, or so it seems, by finding interest in the
littlest of things.
Me:
This is a gift. Value it.
Paul:
...can't boom out in laughter...makes me feel pretentious
Me:
If you don't really feel it from your belly, that would make you feel
pretentious. Your sadness may be sitting like a lead weight on the bubbling
spring of your joy. Release it.
Paul:
...as if they have the privilege of never having been unhappy or sensitive
or an outsider...
Me:
I think that that is true for some people. That is ok. Life may deal them
something later on. Or not. It is not helpful to dwell on it.
Paul:
People are loud, so noisy, too much volume.
Me:
Getting personal here. I am loud. I come from a family where we had to yell
to be heard over each other. It is a habit I have tried to break. I know my
boss is bothered by my volume and tone. I make a conscious effort to lower
and soften my voice when I talk with her so that she will hear my words and
not be put off by the manner of delivery. Thank God/dess for email. In this
forum people react to my words, and not to my sometimes unpleasant manner
of speaking.
Paul:
They conduct shut-off relationships in front of you.
Me:
Yes they do. Sometimes I insert myself at work where I have not been
invited. If I am kind, and soft-voiced and positive they usually let me
stay :)
Paul:
The little boy next door is turning into a hitler at age 5....
Me:
The little boy next to me is a spoiled brat, but he stays in his own yard
so I don't worry about it. Neither need you worry about your neighbor at
this time, unless there is abuse that should be reported to the police.
Worry most about the little boy in your own heart.
Paul:
I hate wearing suits...
Me:
Become a Jain and go naked :)
Paul:
Why should anyone need a cigarette... drink....
Me:
Sometimes consciousness needs to be "altered" in order to get a good look
at itself. Sometimes the world looks better through a glass of beer or a
haze of smoke. It also helps with humor! Not advocating here, folks, just
philosophizing...
Paul:
...feel really negative sitting to watch the telly
Me:
Don't do it then.
Paul:
Sadness can be very close to compassion.
Me:
If you empathize and feel other's pain, I understand what you mean there.
But if your sadness keeps you folded in upon yourself, I would disagree.
Paul:
I am so boring.
Me:
If that were true you wouldn't be getting all this attention :)
BE WELL,
amckeon
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 11:08:30 -0500 (CDT)
From: hbarrettATnospamix.netcom.com (Holly N. Barrett, Ph.D.)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: some K--symptoms
Message-Id: <199804241608.LAA04634ATnospamdfw-ix2.ix.netcom.com>
Me too to most of your list. What really shook me was the amount of
paranoia that came up -- I'm a therapist and this was really unpleasant
to my pride in having "dealt with all that." HAH! Very, very
difficult to unravel what was newly increased sensitivity (in already
quivering antennae) and what was pure delusion. My husband oughta get
some kind of medal. Holly
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 11:44:05 -0600
From: amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: I am Cement
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Lobster entertained us with:
>Ed has always confused orifices regarding communication...
Every time I read this it makes me chuckle. It is one of those lines one
never tires of. I can smile all day every time I think of it and as I apply
it to different people I know, including myself, I laugh in that way that
makes my coworkers wonder what I am up to!
<snipadeedoodah>
>I shall write you an undeserved poem...
Reminds me of "Monty Python and the Holy Grail":
Go Away, or I Shall Taunt You Another Time!
or in French:
(engage bad French accent)
Goo Eway, or Eye Shell Taynt Yeu Ahnotheer Tahym!
(disengage bad French accent)
>I AM CEMENT
>Make way, make way
>intelligent and reasonable, sincere seeker coming through
>Make way, make way
>I am here - YOU THERE! Yes you! I am here!
>Explain yourself (and do it now)
>I wish to understand everything (right now) - get on with helping me
>Make way, make way
Has anyone told you yet today how brilliant you are? If not, let me be the
first. This one is so good it should receive wider readership. Have it
published somewhere, maybe. There are many New Age Journal type mags that
could greatly benefit from its inclusion ;)
I am asphalt (a bit softer and squidgier than cement, but just as thick),
amckeon
P.S. Can ya'll tell I have finally caught up on my email? More frenetic
posting ahead, apologies in advance...
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 12:43:43 EDT
From: Harsha1MTM <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com>
To: lobATnospamlineone.net, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Directions for those going the other way
Message-ID: <defec467.3540c140ATnospamaol.com>
In a message dated 4/24/1998, 10:58:09 AM, lobATnospamlineone.net writes:
snip.....<<The only value of such
entities is self amusement and veiling spirituality. The
superficial think the ridiculous is the total of
spirituality.
Lobster (from Beyond Enlightenment)
>>
Dear Ed,
You can really really write pal! Have you thought about a career
as a speech writer for "gurus" claiming to be enlightened. There may be some
serious money in it for you. Can you afford him Jerry!
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 11:56:42 -0600
From: amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: A Letter from God
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Imtgxxx wrote:
>My dear children (and believe Me, that's all of you)...
<much good stuff snipped for length>
>...the Earth has grown too small for your pervasive religious bigotries
>and >confusion. The whole planet is connected by air travel, satellite
>dishes, >telephones, fax machines, rock concerts, diseases, and mutual
>needs and >concerns. Get with the program! If you really want to help Me,
>then commit >yourselves to figuring out how to feed your hungry, clothe
>your naked, protect >your abused, and shelter your poor. And just as
>importantly, make your own >everyday life a shining example of kindness
>and good humor. I've given you all >the resources you need, if only you
>abandon your fear of each other and begin >living, loving, and laughing
>together.
<let's snip again like we did last summer...>
AMEN. Another wonderful piece of writing by tg. Best be workin' on that
book, girl!
cheerleading,
amckeon
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 12:49:28 -0600
From: amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: curious (ashanka)
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Sen Ashanka wrote:
>So, we, in India, have a saying, that if you do not hurt anyone, fine,
>but you can show your fangs to prevent someone else from hurting you
>unnecessarily.
This is excellent advice.
Very different from the Christian "turn the other cheeck", eh?
I like your way better.
polishing my fangs,
amckeon
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 11:38:37 PDT
From: "Cara McCormack" <caradeepaATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: unsuscribe
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if i am not doing this right please tell me how!!!
Sorry but this mail is just overwhelming my mailbox...is there an
archive i can go to?
love deepa
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Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 14:44:59 EDT
From: Briony123 <Briony123ATnospamaol.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: current events insights
Message-ID: <f80ed206.3540ddaeATnospamaol.com>
Just curious---are any of the other K-heads picking up anything important
around James Earl Ray's death? Or any other recent happenings??? Any
additional information on any wavelength being picked up by anyone.......
My sense is that folks are leaving......choices are being made and karmas are
being played out and we are approaching some sort of edge.....
Is anyone else getting anything........and what form is the information
taking.....are words leaping out from radio, tv, or newspaper, are you tuning
in directly, getting it from a spirit guide, feeling compelled to pick up
certain books, mags at newstands.....
Just curious,
trystan
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 14:06:07 -0600
From: amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: current events insights
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>Just curious---are any of the other K-heads picking up anything important
>around James Earl Ray's death? Or any other recent happenings??? Any
>additional information on any wavelength being picked up by anyone.......
>
>My sense is that folks are leaving......choices are being made and karmas are
>being played out and we are approaching some sort of edge.....
>
>Is anyone else getting anything........and what form is the information
>taking.....are words leaping out from radio, tv, or newspaper, are you tuning
>in directly, getting it from a spirit guide, feeling compelled to pick up
>certain books, mags at newstands.....
I have had this feeling of big changes coming off and on for years. Books
in particular practically leap off the shelves at me all the time. But that
could just be my biblioholism talking...
Don't have anything any more or less significant at this particular time.
Although, I did feel that wave of healing that people were meditating about
and sending out yesterday :) And this was before I got home and read the
emails about it.
gotta get off this email and go shopping,
amckeon
Date: 24 Apr 98 20:01:57 +0000
From: Paul West <paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Delirium's guide to the universe (Dan)
Message-Id: <3540EFB5.MD-0.196.paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>
> 7> If I don't like something it's a bad thing.
>
> Do you mean that the "something" is bad? or
> You are a bad person for not liking "it"?
> Or the act of not liking something (anything) is bad?
>
> probably not liking raw monkey brains fresh out of the skull for lunch,
> amckeon
I have often myself found liking something to be synonymous with BEING
that thing. I was at the local bus stop not long ago and was
uncharacteristically admiring a nice car which was going past, and an
old woman there said to her husband "what an ugly thing". I could see,
looking at who she was, what she was, what she was wrapped up in
mentally, that she was speaking through her own uglyness, her own
attatchmentalism and traditionalism and so on.
I know that it is possible for a person to choose a certain reality
and to not really be aware of it, and that when a person has other
unaknowledged beliefs there can be a conflict of opinions within a
person and this can cause sadness. So generally conflict feels bad
because opinionation is kind of bad.
But above all this there is nothing but God to be scared of.
--
Paul.
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 15:25:37 EDT
From: Harsha1MTM <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com>
To: AfperryATnospamaol.com
Cc: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: The Nature of Self-Realization-(Alan)
Message-ID: <702d443.3540e734ATnospamaol.com>
In a message dated 4/24/1998 7:08:11 AM Pacific Daylight Time, AfperryATnospamaol.com
writes:
<< Dear Harsha,
You wrote:
>The Self is not attained through discourses, nor through intellectuality,
nor
>through much learning. It is gained only by him who longs for It with his
>whole heart. To such a one the Self reveals Its own nature.
>—Mundakoponishad
Ahh, yes Harsha, very beautiful......but the very next sloka adds an
important
gloss that we overlook at our peril!
"Not by the weak, not by the unearnest, not by those who practice wrong
disciplines can the Self be realized. The Self reveals Himself as the Lord of
Love to the one who practices right disciplines." (Trans. Easwaran)
With blessings,
Alan
>>
Harsha: Very beautiful! Thanks Alan for that beautiful next Sloka. Your scholarship always impresses me. I still do not see any difference between the two Slokas. Please do elaborate further if you have the time.
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