1998/04/17 11:58
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #302
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 302
Today's Topics:
BE WILLING FOR ANYTHING [ "Ed Jason" <lobATnospamlineone.net> ]
Re: Walking Through Walls [ Richard Wentk <richardATnospamskydancer.co ]
Re: Snaky stuff [ Imtgxxx <ImtgxxxATnospamaol.com> ]
Re: Lost Among the Nadis? Come out a [ Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic ]
Re: Lost Among the Nadis? Come out a [ Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic ]
Re: help! what's happening to me?/re [ "Gloria Lee" <samyanaATnospamhotmail.com> ]
Re: all that enlightenment my $.02 [ David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net> ]
Re: Snaky stuff [ "Ed Jason" <lobATnospamlineone.net> ]
someone needs our help [ SuZZie <suevtATnospamearthlink.net> ]
Re: Snaky stuff [ Dan Margolis <margolisATnospamtransbay.net ]
Re: childhood kundalini (was RE: kun [ Druout <DruoutATnospamaol.com> ]
Re: Lost Among the Nadis? Come out a [ Harsh Luthar <hlutharATnospambryant.edu> ]
list list..... [ GEMINI <drf140ATnospamemail.psu.edu> ]
Re: childhood kundalini (was RE: kun [ David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net> ]
Re: help! what's happening to me?/re [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpent ]
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 09:00:09 -0700
From: "Ed Jason" <lobATnospamlineone.net>
To: "Germaine" <ghornsbyATnospamtallships.istar.ca>,
"Kundalini list" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: BE WILLING FOR ANYTHING
Message-Id: <199804170840.JAA29492ATnospamboober.lineone.net>
forwarded by Lobster
BE WILLING FOR ANYTHING
By Bill Ferguson
>From "Miracles Are Guaranteed"
To maintain the experience of love and to have life be miraculous, you
need to be able to flow with whatever happens.
Often this is very difficult because certain circumstances reactivate a
great deal of hurt and feelings of not being okay. You don't want to
experience these feelings, so you fight and resist any circumstance that
may reactivate them.
The moment this happens, you get upset. You stop flowing with life and
close down inside. You lose the experience of love and your ability to
see what needs to be done. Usually you make your situation much worse.
By avoiding these feelings and resisting your circumstances, you destroy
love and create a life of suffering.
To restore the experience of love and to have a life that works, you
need to be free inside. Stop fighting your circumstances and make peace
with them. Make peace with the truth. Then do whatever you need to do.
The best way to make peace with a circumstance is through a process
called letting go.
Letting go is giving up your demand for how life should be and
surrendering to the truth of how your life is. Letting go is giving your
circumstances full permission to be in your life. You don't have to like
your circumstances, just give them permission to be there.
If there is any circumstance that you can't be at peace with, there is a
nerve that is being struck, a hurt that needs to be healed.
So look over your life. What circumstances can't you be at peace with?
What are you unwilling to have happen? What are you unwilling to lose
tomorrow? What are you unwilling to experience?
Look for any area of life for which you are not willing. Then notice how
irrelevant your unwillingness is. Your unwillingness certainly doesn't
stop your fears fro happening or keep you from losing what you don't
want to lose.
Make a list of any circumstance that you can't be at peace with. Then
work with your list until you are willing for each circumstance to be in
your life. Let go and set yourself free inside. Then do whatever you
need to do.
To let go and make peace with your circumstances, take the following
steps:
1. Find the specific circumstances you are avoiding or resisting.
2. Find the hurt, the emotion and the feelings of being not okay that
you don't want to experience.
3. Be willing to experience these feelings.
4. Give the circumstances permission to be in your life.
5. Take whatever action you need to take.
Work with each item on your list until you are totally willing to
experience anything life has to offer.
Remember that being willing is just a state of mind, and that your
actions are totally separate. Being willing is the process
that allows you to be free of the fear and upset that keep you from
seeing what needs to be done.
The more you let go and make peace with your life, the more you can
create a life that works.
Sometimes the process of letting go can seem very difficult. You can
make the process much easier by trusting.
Trust that you will okay no matter what happens. When you know that you
will be okay, you have nothing to fear and letting go becomes relatively
easy. When you don't trust that you will be okay, circumstances become
threatening and letting go can be very difficult.
Trust is something you create. Trust is a choice, a declaration. "I will
be okay no matter what happens. I trust, just because I say so."
The more you trust, the more you let go and the more your life works.
Trusting is also telling the truth. You really will be fine no matter
what happens. Life is only threatening when you resist.
Look at your life. Have you ever had a situation you didn't survive? Of
course not. You have survived everything. Tough times have only been
tough because you resisted your circumstances.
So stop resisting. Be willing to let go of your life and trust. Trust,
knowing that whatever happens is for your highest good. Trust that you
will be fine.
Here is a prayer that is very powerful.
"God, I give you my life, my heart and my soul. I give you my
relationships, my property and my health. You can take them all forever.
Whatever you have planned for me is fine. I totally trust you."
To be totally willing for anything, you have to let go of your life, but
once you do, you gain a life that will exceed your dreams.
Life becomes miraculous. Fear and upsets begin to disappear. You stop
creating resistance and opposition against yourself. You live in harmony
with the world around you, and life becomes effortless. You express love
and receive love in return. You enter the garden of Eden.
When you are willing to lose your life, the only change is inside you.
Everything you enjoy is still there. Only now you can appreciate your
life like never before. When you are willing to have nothing, you become
very thankful and appreciative for everything you have, and you have a
lot.
Learning to let go and make peace with your life is a major step toward
being free inside and having a life that works.
Be Prosperous
Most of us sabotage our own prosperity. We limit our financial growth
and set up ourselves for frequent upset.
If you made a list of everything you wanted, and received everything on
your list, before long, you would have a new list of wants.
You can never get enough of what you want because the void you are
trying to fill in inside yourself, not outside.
Until you heal this inner void, you will continue to sabotage your
prosperity. Instead of building an estate, you will overspend. Instead
of creating a life of abundance, you will create a life of fear, upset
and insufficiency.
To heal this inner void, find the core issue that drives your insatiable
wants.
To heal your issue, you need to make peace with this aspect of you.
Allow yourself to experience the feelings of being a failure or whatever
your issue is. Allow yourself to experience the hurt.
Then be willing to have nothing.
When you can have nothing and still be happy, you will be free. You will
have control over your wants. You will be free of fear and upset over
money. You will be more creative, more effective and more able to have
what you want.
Are you willing to have nothing? Are you willing to be homeless? What
would you have to experience if you lost everything? What aspect of you
would you have to face? Find the experience you are avoiding and be
willing to experience it. Continue to work with this until you can have
nothing and still be happy.
Once you are truly willing to have nothing, you will deeply appreciate
whatever you have. You can then experience true prosperity.
True prosperity is appreciating what you have, being free inside and
going for your dreams.
If wealth is one of your dreams, go for your dream with all of your
heart. Just make sure you have fun in the process. Make sure the process
of becoming wealthy is a game rather than a matter of survival. Keep
your focus on being free inside.
Live a simple life that works. Spend less than you earn. Be free of
financial upset and go for your dreams.
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 10:31:08 +0100
From: Richard Wentk <richardATnospamskydancer.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Walking Through Walls
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At 18:43 16/04/98 -0600, amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us wrote:
>So... not only did I not believe that the wall was solid, I didn't even
>know there *was* a wall to have any beliefs about! I had assumed that like
>many of the movie theaters I had been to that there was an aisle on either
>side of each row of seats. This particular theater had rows of seats with
>only a center aisle and one end of the row was actually attached to the
>wall.
>
>I had heard the same thing stated above by Mark Collins and in many
>different ways from other people. And in the aftermath of my failure to
>walk through a wall, I remember thinking "Well, there goes that theory..."
>
Yes indeed - these 'you create your reality' merchants really crack me up
sometimes.
Reality is. It has a mind of its own, and if you smack into it, it hurts.
Deal with it.
If you don't believe me, come and visit me by walking through one of my
walls sometime. I promise a small but worthwhile reward for the first
person on the list who manages this.
(And doing it in the astral doesn't count. Sorry. :) )
Yes, I know there's another level where this isn't true (etc, etc, etc) but
how many of us are anywhere near that level? To pretend we are when we're
not seems foolishly rash and naive to me, akin to trying to run a marathon
when you've barely learned to walk.
R.
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 08:36:55 EDT
From: Imtgxxx <ImtgxxxATnospamaol.com>
To: blal0004ATnospammaroon.tc.umn.edu
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Snaky stuff
Message-ID: <1e3fd55.35374ce9ATnospamaol.com>
Lobster wrote:
Real qualities: kindness, generosity, truthfulness, lack of learnt opinions,
direct perception etc
Brent wrote:
Why do you say that only those qualities are real? What is false about
anger, sadness, pain, and selfishness? Do they not exist? And if not, how
could we talk about them or experience them?
tg replies (while still licking the chocolate off her):
Only the love is real. Nothing else exists. When faced with Truth, when
existing in Truth, everything that is not of love just isn't there. We can
talk about & experience those things *not of love* because we are stuck here
in this illusion. What is true is always true. (what is love is always
love). What is false can never be true. (what is *anything other than love*
can never be love). Something like that.
xxxtg
* Kundalini: A path to get people to subscribe to this list *
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Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 08:10:20 -0500
From: Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Lost Among the Nadis? Come out and Play!
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Hi Jerry!
>One way of interpreting Ed's stance is that the Truth may be seen as
>hiding within. It is nowhere on the outside. Not within anyone or
>anything. But a precious jewel hidden within each seeker. I'm not an
>expert, but that sounds entirely Sufi-like and beautiful to me.
Beautiful! So the Sufis don't have teachers either? Just the Greenman,
huh? Not too bad!
>
>The truth you come to know is the truth that you serve. If you 'serve'
>or attend to that hidden jewel within, you may come to realize The
>Truth.
Yes you will, if you go straight for it.
>
>If you serve anything else, anything: Jesus, Buddha, Abraham, Danijel,
>Sandeep, and if you think The Truth is contained within them and not
>yourself, then you get some reflection of the hidden jewel, but only
>that. You don't get the jewel that is hidden within you. They, can,
>however, serve to stimulate some movement toward that hidden jewel
>within you.
I appreciate your concern, but actually I'm not looking for that jewel.
It's just that you don't look for what you've already found.
You may have the wrong impression because I've said that Danijel is my
guru. You see, I'm a natural-born teacher. All my life I've been teaching
something - swimming, piano, literature, the way to the All.... And I'm
happy as a skier on the slopes when I'm teaching.
And what a teacher loves to find is a better method of teaching. That's
what I found in Danijel, among other things. His "upstream kriya" is the
fastest method I know, much faster and more certain than the way I used to
teach. I want his intimate, detailed, hands-on working knowledge of planes
and energies and nadis. I want to be able to reach out and break that
student's huge block into manageable small pieces, as he does. I want to
be able to reach into the student and give an "energy tune-up," as he does.
And when the student moves onto a new plane and begins to work with a new
energy, I want to know that plane and its energy so well from my own
experience that I can be a good guide through that unfamiliar territory.
That's why I'm Danijel's chela.
It's kind of like going back to grad school again, only harder.
And what a teacher doesn't love to hear is that if he teaches what he
knows, then - by definition - he can't be "a real teacher." :)))))))))))
LOL :))))))))))))) Because real teachers - guess what - DON'T TEACH!!
:)))))))) ROTFLMTO :)))))))))))
Just be glad that's not a model for garbage-men! :)))))))))) Or doctors!
And that's enough seriousness for now. Going out to play again!
Love,
Ann
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 09:48:38 -0500
From: Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Lost Among the Nadis? Come out and Play!
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"Ed Jason" <lobATnospamlineone.net> wrote:
>
>>Ann:
>> Yet you think there are some real teachers somewhere, if anyone can find
>> them while they're busy hiding.
>
>Busy hiding? :-) 'Nobody and nothing can hide the truth from those who
>seek it sincerely'.
But no one should seek it sincerely from a teacher, because they're either
hiding or they're not real teachers?
>
>> So Jesus was immature? Still in "a process of change and unfoldment"? You
>> mean he wasn't dead? You know what you are when you stop changing,
>> Lobster? DEAD.
>
>That's right and that is why in Sufism it is said 'Die before you die'.
After THAT death you go on changing and growing. When you stop changing,
you're just dead. Rotting, mouldering in the grave, wormy DEAD.
>
>The only people who ever taught me wisdom (as opposed to information which
>is available in books) never tried - they exemplified. They were wise.
>They embodied.
The teaching method of the Buddha - being. But not hiding. :)
>Buddha, Jesus etc could not transmit anything but the most superficial
>truths through words. That their words are often considered sublime
>demonstrates our lack. >
Gautama embodied the energy of wisdom, was wisdom. Jesus embodied the
energy of love and was love. Their words are highly valued because of who
they were.
>> So Mohammed and Gautama were products of the times they lived in? What a
>> shame they weren't enlightened 20th-century lobsters!
>
>Ask yourself this: 'What perfection in them am I so protective of?'
"Perfection" again! I wonder if you are obsessed with perfection and/or
the lack of it.
Why does the lack of perfection (as you define it) bother you enough to
provoke such an attack? Apparently you think they SHOULD have been
perfect! Too bad - you won't find that finished, never-changing perfection
in a living, breathing human being.
>
>As for the path . . . develop real qualities, go within. Be kind. Start to
>find the answers you have. In other words digest what you know.
Well, that certainly is not the path of a Gautama or a Jesus. You could
sit around thinking about what you already know for the rest of your life
without discovering anything new. Or embodying anything.
>Not Mohammed or Gautama
>or a 20th-century Lobster
Oh, what are you? An 18th-century Lobster?
>just some words you react to . . .
>
>Ed
No, Ed, you're the guy generating the words, and you're a puzzlement!
Sometimes you're so compassionate, sometimes you're so funny I love to read
your words, and sometimes you seem to want to dismantle everyone in sight!
Dunno why. But I love you anyway.
Ann
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 08:22:33 PDT
From: "Gloria Lee" <samyanaATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com, mattbATnospamchrysalis.com
Subject: Re: help! what's happening to me?/reply
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>From: Matthew Bastress <mattbATnospamchrysalis.com>
>Subject: help! what's happening to me?
>To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
>Date: Thu, 16 Apr 98 18:31:22 EDT
>
>I have just stumbled onto this list and I already
>read two posts by Kathy(delirium) and Uwe who have
>these experiences. I can't believe it.
Dear Matt,
Yes, believe it... There is no way I can improve on the already
excellent messages you have been given by Lobster and Mystress, but
may I simply add my love and concern? We need both the mind's
understanding (which I really lack, btw) and the heart's trusting faith
that you are loved and cared for always, no matter how it may
appear. You have been guided here..and just what you needed to hear
has appeared on the list. There is my "proof"..and I further believe
that many of our lurkers began to "pray for you"...in some form or
another, as soon as your post was read...and you will be given whatever
you need. Its just part of our "being connected"...
there is so much love and good will here, along with the understanding
of the process that is occurring with you now. Remember that too, ok??
With much love,
Glo Lee
PS. Would hope that some of the old-timers who "complain" of a topic
coming around again for the umptyunth time will try to remember that new
souls are continually finding their way here...(not always knowing how
or bothering to search the archives..as I still have not figured out
THAT either)...I trust that every message sent here is for SOMEONE...if,
it ain't for you, or seems off-topic...just let it go.. sometimes the
very message that some of *you* complain over will get a response from
off list that it was just what SOMEONE needed to hear...(has happened to
me even) - so please lighten up on the *control stick*..its also better
known as the *joy stick*
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Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 12:12:03 -0400
From: David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net>
To: Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: all that enlightenment my $.02
Message-ID: <35377F53.6DACE8BEATnospammail.snet.net>
Mystress Angelique Serpent wrote:
> Too long in Samadhi and your body will die..
> The body will become more vulnerable and begin to malfunction and shut down.
No time at all in samadhi, body dies.
In any event, couldn't be as harmful as smoking or bacon, no? : )
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 09:58:21 -0700
From: "Ed Jason" <lobATnospamlineone.net>
To: "Brent Blalock" <blal0004ATnospammaroon.tc.umn.edu>
Cc: "Kundalini - L" <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: Re: Snaky stuff
Message-Id: <199804171639.RAA16790ATnospamboober.lineone.net>
> Um... That's not a question. You know what irony is. If not, look it up.
Many thanks I will.
> Actually, I think I remember some Zen guy answering a question like that.
> His reply was, "mu".
No?
> Lack of counterexamples does not make a thing so. What you say sounds
> baseless and false. Are you implying that I should believe you because I
> don't have another explanation? That wouldn't be wise.
I would prefer you to be wise. Believing me or anything I say is no way to wisdom - of course I wouldn't expect you to believe that.
> > Real qualities:
> > kindness, generosity, truthfulness, lack of learnt opinions, direct
> perception
> > etc
>
> Why do you say that only those qualities are real? What is false about
> anger, sadness, pain, and selfishness? Do they not exist? And if not, how
> could we talk about them or experience them?
Anger is fear of accepting Love
Sadness is the pain of separation from Love
Pain is lack of Love
Selfisness is restricting rather than bestowing Love
Love is the only Reality - but you can live where you choose
Choose Love
> > Freeing oneself of things? - what things? - the head? the ground? I am
> > attached to everything in my life but I do not cling to their being or
> their
> > absence.
>
> A classic form of miscommunication has occurred. When I said, "attached" I
> meant what you said about clinging to object's being or not-being.
You mean we agree. :-) Of course we alway did . . .
I never doubted it.
Love
Lobster
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 13:02:11 -0400
From: SuZZie <suevtATnospamearthlink.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: someone needs our help
Message-ID: <35378B13.3D6AATnospamearthlink.net>
This was posted on the Kundalini message board at Delphi that I
mentioned about a week ago.
> Hello, I started chi kung a short time ago I was looking for a chi
> kung discussion but can not find one. I thank someone here may be
> able to help me.
>
> I have been doing TIEN TAO CHI KUNG for only a few months, but I
> have meditated on and off for a few years.
>
> I am a martial artist & iron palm stylist. I am having trouble
> sleeping at night.When I lay down at night I start to feel
> energy flowing up my back and down the functional channel. This
> happens no matter what time of day I do the chi kung.
>
> Is this normal this early in training?? What do I need to do?
>
That was posted on 4/11 and nobody has responded. I just thought some
of you may have some answers/insights that I can pass along.
Peace,
~~SuZZie~~
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 10:14:49 -0700
From: Dan Margolis <margolisATnospamtransbay.net>
To: Imtgxxx <ImtgxxxATnospamaol.com>, Kundalini Mailing List <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Snaky stuff
Message-ID: <35378E09.2F00227CATnospamtransbay.net>
> Why do you say that only those qualities are real? What is false about
> anger, sadness, pain, and selfishness? Do they not exist? And if not, how
> could we talk about them or experience them?
I missed this original posting but I'll butt in any way...
Any emotional experience that requires a sense of lesser ego is inherently not
real. To be angry one must have an object of anger...'I'm mad at that guy for
taking my last cupcake.' One must also have an attachment to something: that was
MY cupcake.. One must also have a sense of separation... That man is different
from me and therefore cannot have my cupcake... There is no reason to be
attached to the cupcake...The cupcake was there, now it's gone, why be angry?
For the same reason, sadness and selfishness are inherently unreal. They require
subject and object, attachment and sense of loss of something that no longer is
there.
Physical pain is real at the moment it occurs. When someone hits you, you have a
genuine feeling of physical distress when it occurs. Most of the time this pain
passes unless there is damage done. Physical pain is a set of signals that
something is not right with the physical body nothing more nothing less.
Genuine emotions require no subject or object or attachment. love and joy are
boundless and ever present... They require no object of love or object of joy...
I'm joyful...
Dan M.
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 13:27:18 EDT
From: Druout <DruoutATnospamaol.com>
To: serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: childhood kundalini (was RE: kundalini questions)
Message-ID: <34d9f231.353790f7ATnospamaol.com>
I wonder if having "imaginary" childhood playmates, etc. makes one more
likely to have visible spirit guides and entities later when K hits. I
wonder, too, if people who see UFO beings also are more likely to have had
"imaginary" visits with other entities in childhood. I never experienced
either, but having a twin might have been a factor. My older sister had a
"friend" for years.
Love, Hillary
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 14:10:41 -0400
From: Harsh Luthar <hlutharATnospambryant.edu>
To: Harsha1MTM <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com>
CC: umbadaATnospamns.sympatico.ca, annfisherATnospamstic.net, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Lost Among the Nadis? Come out and Play!
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Harsha: I came across this very interesting and funny story from Balaram Reddy,
one of Ramana Maharshi's devotees (the punch line is at the end). Balaram Reddy
lived in the Aurbindo Ashram for 5 years and then came to Ramana Maharshi and
stayed there for the rest of his life. As usual, in the story the Sage is often
referred to as either Maharshi or Bhagvan.
Balarama Reddy recalls: I remember during my second visit to Ramanasramam the
Maharshi was one day reading a lengthy book review from a newspaper. The book
being reviewed was Aurobindo's Lights on Yoga. The reviewer was Kapali Sastri
and the editor of this newspaper was Bhagavan's devotee, S. M. Kamath. Bhagavan
seemed to take great interest in the review and would occasionally stop reading
and comment on what he had just read to those sitting around him. When he had
concluded reading it, someone who was aware that I had that very
book with me, said to Bhagavan, "This man has come from the Aurobindo Ashram and
he has that book with him." Bhagavan turned to me and said, "Oh, is that so ?
Let me have a look at it."
I went back to my room, fetched the book and handed it over to Bhagavan.
Immediately Bhagavan began reading it intently. He kept on reading it well into
the night, with the help of a small oil lamp, until he finished it. When I came
into the hall the next day he began discussing the book with me, telling me that
a certain term used in the book might look like something new, but it is actually
the equivalent of this other term used in such and such ancient text, etc. Like
this, he went on discussing and comparing Aurobindo's philosophy for some
time. So Bhagavan thoroughly understood Aurobindo's philosophy both
intellectually and also from the standpoint of experience.
One evening I said to Bhagavan that the major attraction of Aurobindo's
teachings is that it professes that immortality of the body can be achieved.
Bhagavan made no comment.
The next day, as soon as I walked into the hall and sat down, Bhagavan looked at
me and began saying, "In Kumbhakonam there was one yogi, C. V. V. Rao, who was
proclaiming to all, his doctrine of the immortality of the body. He was even so
bold as to declare that Dr. Annie Besant (a distinguished public and spiritual
personality in India) would have to come to him to learn how to make her body
immortal. But, before he had a chance to meet Dr. Annie Besant, he died." This
brief story clearly illustrated his point.
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 14:21:56 -0400
From: GEMINI <drf140ATnospamemail.psu.edu>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: list list.....
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ho hum
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 14:33:51 -0400
From: David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net>
To: Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: childhood kundalini (was RE: kundalini questions)
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Druout wrote:
> I wonder if having "imaginary" childhood playmates, etc. makes one more
> likely to have visible spirit guides and entities later when K hits.
I used to have an imaginary friend.At least I thought I did.
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 11:38:15 -0700
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: "Gloria Lee" <samyanaATnospamhotmail.com>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com, mattbATnospamchrysalis.com
Subject: Re: help! what's happening to me?/reply
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So you will beat me with your control stick if I bitch about the
repetition?
Easy on the control stick Gloria.. I'll bitch if I feel like it.. of
course the list is circular, of course new members haven't seen old topics
before.
But commenting on it's circular curve didn't stop me from approaching the
subject afresh again.
I had considered, at odd times that I could probably pull up an archive
post from my on K-list writing, for almost every topic and not write at all
anymore.. But I like writing.. Getting voice dictation software next!!
The other reason I can bitch bitch bitch if I feel like it. is we the
K-list Team web weavers will be getting the Archives from my harddrive to a
website, to be readily accessable just as soon as we can.
Blessings, Mystress.
At 08:22 AM 17/04/98 PDT, Gloria Lee wrote:
PS. Would hope that some of the old-timers who "complain" of a topic
>coming around again for the umptyunth time will try to remember that new
>souls are continually finding their way here...(not always knowing how
>or bothering to search the archives..as I still have not figured out
>THAT either)...I trust that every message sent here is for SOMEONE...if,
>it ain't for you, or seems off-topic...just let it go.. sometimes the
>very message that some of *you* complain over will get a response from
>off list that it was just what SOMEONE needed to hear...(has happened to
>me even) - so please lighten up on the *control stick*..its also better
>known as the *joy stick*
>
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