1998/04/16 04:23
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #297
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 297
Today's Topics:
Some Sufi Gems [ "Sandeep Chatterjee" <sandeepcATnospambom3 ]
Fw: Seriousness is a Disease [ "Sandeep Chatterjee" <sandeepcATnospambom3 ]
RE: Nadis and Say What? :-) [ Kurt Keutzer <keutzerATnospameecs.berkeley ]
Re: Snaky stuff [ "Ed Jason" <lobATnospamlineone.net> ]
Lost Among the Nadis? Come out and P [ Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic ]
RE: I've been thinking... [ Tom_I_BradleyATnospamEURO.CCMAIL.compuserv ]
Easter sermon, trembling [ UweJohann <UweJohannATnospamaol.com> ]
Re: childhood kundalini (was RE: kun [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpent ]
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 09:18:37 +0530
From: "Sandeep Chatterjee" <sandeepcATnospambom3.vsnl.net.in>
To: <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Some Sufi Gems
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Some Sufi gems:
This is no Kaaba
For idiots to circle
Nor a mosque
For the impolite to clamor in
This is kharabat a temple of total ruin.
Inside are the drunk, from pre-eternity
to the Judgement day
gone from themselves
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I though of You so often
that I completely became You
Little by little You drew near
and slowly but slowly I passed away.
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Talking about Koran and all the scriptures the Sufi Master Rumi says
Footprints but come to the ocean's shore
Therein, no trace remains
(Sandeep:
All scriptures only come to the ocean's shore.They can't take you into the
journey of the unknown, they remain part of the known)
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Two disciples of a Sufi Mystic were walking in the garden of the Master.
They were both smokers and wanted to seek the permission of the Master to
smoke. They both went to the Master and next day in the garden one finds the
other smoking away. The other one was furious "but he refused to me. Look at
the injustice"
The smoker asks "What did you ask the Master?" The other replied "I asked
can I smoke while meditating. What did you ask?"
The smoker replied" I asked can I meditate while smoking?"
For a Sufi every situation, everything can be in meditation.
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Don't speak to us of visions and miracles
for we long ago transcended such things
We saw them all to be illusions and dream
and dauntlessly we passed beyond them.
(Sandeep:
A great Sufi statement. God is not an experience. No experience as such is
spiritual. All experiences are mind games. Whatsoever can be seen will be
part of the illusory world. The seer is the truth not the seen. You can see
auras, you can see angels, you can see kundalini rising and you can see
Inner Lights—but they are all seen. They are not "you")
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Was D H Lawrence a Sufi? Read these lines
Are you willing to be sponged out,
Erased,cancelled, made nothing?
Are you willing to be made nothing,
Dipped into oblivion
If not, you will never change.
The phoenix renews her youth
Only when she is burnt, burnt alive
Burnt down to hot and flocculent ash.
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Kabir was a Sufi poet. He writes
I laugh when I hear the fish in the water is thirsty.
You don't grasp the fact that what is most alive of all is inside your own
house:
and so you walk from one holy city to the next
with a confused look .
The caller calls in a loud voice to the Holy One at dusk.
Why?
Surely the Holy One is not deaf.
He hears the delicate anklets that ring on the
feet of an insect as it walks.
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Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 09:25:35 +0530
From: "Sandeep Chatterjee" <sandeepcATnospambom3.vsnl.net.in>
To: <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: Fw: Seriousness is a Disease
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Hi everybody
ROTFLMAO
SWAMI BEYONDANANDA'S GUIDELINES FOR ENLIGHTENMENT
"Drive your Karma; Curb your Dogma"
1. Be a Fundamentalist--make sure the Fun always comes before
the mental. Realize that life is a situation comedy that will
never be canceled. A laugh track has been provided, and the
reason why we are put in the material world is to get more
material. Have a good laughsitive twice a day, and that will
ensure regularhilarity.
2. Remember that each of us has been given a special gift,
just for entering--so you are already a winner.
3. The most powerful tool on the planet today is
Tell-A-Vision. That is where I tell a vision to you and you
tell a vision to me. That way, if we don't like the
programming we're getting, we can simply change the channel.
4. Life is like photography. You use the negative to
develop. And, no matter what adversity you face, be
reassured: Of course God loves you--He's just not ready to
make a commitment.
5. It is true. As we go through life thinking heavy
thoughts, thought particles tend to get caught between the
ears, causing a condition called truth decay. So be sure to
use mental floss twice a day. And when you're tempted to
practice tantrum yoga, remember what we teach in Swami's
Absurdiveness Training class: "Don't get even, get odd."
6. If we want world peace, we must let go of our attachments
and truly live like nomads. That's where I no mad at you, you
no mad at me. That way, there'll surely be nomadness on the
planet. And peace begins with each of us. A little peace
here, a little peace there, pretty soon all the peaces will
fit together to make one big peace everywhere.
7. I know great earth changes have been predicted for the
future, so if you're looking to avoid earthquakes, my advice
is simple. When you find a fault, just don't dwell on it.
8. There's no need to change the world. All we have to do is
toilet train the world, and we'll never have to change it
again.
9. If you're looking to find the key to the Universe, I have
some bad news and some good news. The bad news is---there is
no key to the Universe. The good news is--it has been left
unlocked.
10. Finally, everything I have told you is channeled. That
way, if you don't like it, it's not my fault. And remember,
enlightenment is not a bureaucracy. So, we don't have to go
through channels.
LOL
Sandeep
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 22:48:18 -0700
From: Kurt Keutzer <keutzerATnospameecs.berkeley.edu>
To: "'Harsh Luthar'" <hlutharATnospambryant.edu>, Sharon Webb <shawebbATnospamyhc.edu>
Cc: "kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: RE: Nadis and Say What? :-)
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From: Harsh Luthar [SMTP:hlutharATnospambryant.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 1998 1:07 PM
To: Sharon Webb
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Nadis and Say What? :-)
Sharon Webb wrote:
> Joseph,
>
> Could you put these various systems in plain English for those of
us---like
> me---who do not have a grasp of Hindu terminology? And could you,
further,
> give us a breakdown of the manifestations of each of the various
pathways,
> with a list of what happens with each, so that we might be able to
determine
> which, if any, our own k is following?
>
> Thank you.
>
> Sharon
Harsha: Sharon, as a practical matter, although there are broad
similarities,
the Kundalini manifestations will be different in people even through the
same
pathway. The Shakti being the full force of Consciousness (including the
Unconscious Mind), acts upon and through an individual's unique karmic
makeup to
produce various types of Superconscious and other experiences. Moreover,
some
important pathways do not properly develop until the Shakti starts to
function
at or above the heart center. Here, I am referring to the psychic heart
center
of Kundalini Yoga and not the Spiritual Heart that Ramana Maharshi spoke
of.
KK: In Ramana Maharshi's works I have noted that he goes out of his way to
distinguish the spiritual heart from the physical heart but I have never
found anything he wrote that distinguishes it from either anahata or
hridaya cakras of the heart. If he does so can you give me a pointer.
When he says:
``Since both the serpent flame ascending
And the nectar stream down flowing
Seek but the Heart, this is the fount
Of nectar from the mind divine,
And the fierce serpents maddening power.''
These same words can have been written by a Natha yogi or, with a minor
change of terms, a Buddhist tantric yogi.
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 07:36:42 -0700
From: "Ed Jason" <lobATnospamlineone.net>
To: <CttlemanATnospampsbnewton.com>
Cc: "Kundalini list" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Snaky stuff
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> Hi Lobster,
> I understand what you are saying - sort of. It even makes sense.
> (that's spooky! :-)))) I like the saying 'God hides His greatest
> Saints'...I suppose for the more "advanced" seeker these would be the
> most marvelous jewels of the ether to dis-cover, paving the way for the
> rest of us, holding the door so to speak.
> It just seems necessary that the majority of common folk (like me)
> gotta be whomped on the head to get our attention. I am not saying
> popularity means perfection, as you point out in your response, just
> saying it exposes some to a way of life they might not otherwise of had.
> I think each and every one of us are genuine students, some are just
> more aware of the lessons than others.
> Thanks Lobster for a fresh perspective.
>
> John :-)
Hi John,
That is spooky. Advanced? It is extraordinary how much you realise ignorance when you know a little. The secret teachers are indeed a 'jewel in the mud'. However you have to understand that they teach without it being known as teaching. They demonstrate qualities. Behaviour is enacted and some pick this up unconsciously and start to emulate the loop. It then becomes part of peoples expression. They may expose a limiting condition by aggravating it. They often appear very unspiritual.
I understand the reference to head thwacking. It is precisely because we are so dense that we can not be considered genuine. It is said 'a thousand explanations go unheeded but for the heedful a sign is enough'. Again in Sufism the requirement of a teacher is not miracles, sanctity or popularity. The only requirement is the needs of the student.
Nobody is ever wrong from their perspective. So learn to see the others view - why should it be them that is wrong - why are you not more flexible? However outlandish, limited or simplistic - a person feels or thinks they are right. They are. The more we accept that the more we harmonize with ourselves, others and the situation - of course I could be wrong :-) In fact Sufis say we have to 'trim our beard' - not other peoples (women in this sense are considered to have beards). A more useful way to put it might be 'if the hair is allowed freedom, soon there is no head only hair'.
Most Kind Regards
the Bald Lobster
BE WELL
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 02:52:12 -0500
From: Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Lost Among the Nadis? Come out and Play!
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So you're not interested in "snakey power," Lobster? Too bad - you're
missing a lot of fun!!
Wisdom can't be explained, so anyone who tries is obviously not a true
teacher? Darn - I was just about to answer that important question. Guess
I'd better keep my mouth shut!!
Yet you think there are some real teachers somewhere, if anyone can find
them while they're busy hiding.
So if they don't talk about "wisdom," what do they teach? Maybe just a
simple technique or two? A little upstream kriya? How to open a door to
the All? No, Jerry says their words "will possess a gravity that draws
some people toward that silence." Gravity is good, but no wisdom, right,
Lobster?
And anyway, Dan says if they're public enough that you can find them,
they're not interested in teaching individuals, just changing society. Oh
well.
So Jesus was immature? Still in "a process of change and unfoldment"? You
mean he wasn't dead? You know what you are when you stop changing,
Lobster? DEAD.
So Mohammed and Gautama were products of the times they lived in? What a
shame they weren't enlightened 20th-century lobsters!
But then they weren't real teachers, either, because they were openly
teaching individuals. Jesus was traipsing around the countryside with a
group of students, and Gautama sat in the Deer Park, occasionally uttering
words of wisdom - a big nono! - to his students.
Maybe you should admit you're an avatar, Lobster; then you could find the
perfect teacher. No, I guess you don't fit the criteria. You're not in
hiding. And you're not perfect - I can see that because you're not dead.
Oh well.
Going out to play with Sandeep and Danijel and the other kids....
Ann
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 05:17:06 -0400
From: Tom_I_BradleyATnospamEURO.CCMAIL.compuserve.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: RE: I've been thinking...
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So what is?
Tom
>1 Nothing exists except your mind
>2 It isn't "your" mind
>3 It's bigger than you think it is
>
>Is this a fair summation of spiritual reality?
>
>Tom
No
Rick_
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 05:39:15 EDT
From: UweJohann <UweJohannATnospamaol.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Easter sermon, trembling
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Dear Friends,
on easter-weekend my family and me were on a visit by friends. On our last
day, monday, we went to church in the morning befor leaving our friends.
A young priest talked about the women, Maria and so on, who went to the
grave of Jesus to anoint his corpse. My last faith was buddhist, so I beg your
pardon, I can't repeat the whole story, I hope you know it. The priest
emphasizes the reaction of the women, if they saw the grave was empty and the
angel appeared, with words like trembling, be shoked, be scared and horrified,
burning heart and so on. Best of all I wanted to cry out -this words are not
only words but lived experience. Dying and rising from dead, all this sounds
for me as a symbol of the process I'm involved. As a symbol for the physical
and psychical upheaval.
Two days before monday I have had a attack of trembling, I never
experienced before. It was a full moon night, we sat in a bar, I got nervous
because of the increasing thrills in the whole body, felt sick, must went out.
My friends came after me. On our way home in the car this trembling starts, it
must look strange, my friends and my woman were worried about me. Wriggling
myself and tie up my fingers and arms (no mudras, they may look better). This
trembling continued until I sleep .... No, I didn't drank, no I'm not ill, I
know what it is, I will tell you tomorow, I said to my friends, I have only to
rest now.....
I knew from all of your posts and shared experiences, that this was a
symptom of the working kundalini inside, so I was not affraid about this body.
I want to say thank you, thank you very much.
It was not the first time I experienced this, but it was the first time
in this strenght and in the presence of other people.
I was more worried about my friends and my woman. I tried to explain
what's going on, but there is always a kind of block, when I tried to tell
about the process.
This makes me sad. My heart is burning inside, I feel every kind of joy
and bliss and so on and then I'm not able to share it. After all, I thought,
maybe that I make them affraid with my attempts to explain whats going on,
better I keep silent and they feel good ....... but there remains a feeling
of sadness... loneliness....
Yes, I know, these ups and downs are part of the process, and all concepts are
burning down.
I'm interested in your experience.
Thanks once again with all my heart
Uwe
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 01:58:34 -0700
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: "Joseph Miller" <joemillerATnospamhotmail.com>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com, keutzerATnospameecs.berkeley.edu,
margolisATnospamtransbay.net
Subject: Re: childhood kundalini (was RE: kundalini questions)
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At 02:16 PM 14/04/98 PDT, Joseph Miller wrote:
>>>Dan wrote:
>>><snip> What practice or experience caused your kundalini
>>>to awaken?
>>>Joe replied:
>>>Mine was awake at birth. <snip>
Mystress responds, "Me, too."
Pretty much amazes me, but I've stopped arguing with the evidence.
>>
>>>Kurt asks:
>>>I wonder if you could expand on your comment ``awake at birth''. Can
>>you tell us more about what you were (and are) experiencing?
>>>
>>Joe replies:
><snip>
>>K takes Susumna or other appropriate route, in me it took Vajra nadi.
>>Vajra can lead to several different things, among them a strong
>>appetites (for food and drink among other things), a strong sex drive,
>>and psychic powers.
Dunno about that.. mebbie if I tell you of my recollections you can tell
me whatzup. I have heard that one sign is having very clear early memories.
My grandfather died when I was two, but I have a clear memory of peeking
thru the furnace space at my Grandmother's house to watch the men in white
coats wheel him off to the hospital. Granny was mean that day.. (cranky old
bat.. I learned a lot from her.. LOL!) ..and would not allow the
grandchildren to say goodbye.
My parents have a picture of me as a bald child in a sleeper covered with
mud standing next to a planter nearly tall as me. I remember when it was
taken. I had gotten up in the night and managed with a sense of great
urgency to climb out of my crib because there was something very important
and beautiful under the ground, and I had to go outside immediately and dig
in the garden to find it. However I couldn't get the door open to get
outside, so I settled for digging up a plant pot with a popsicle stick. I
was very frustrated when they woke up and did not take my quest seriously.
I have not thought about What I was looking for, for years.. but I am
remembering it as a light.. and remembering that I kept digging holes for
years after, not telling anyone why coz they might stop me again..
Eventually I gave up on the light under the ground.. except these days I am
grounded into it. LOL! How things turn.
I was very surprised when folks wrote to the list to complain that the
golden light in their head was keeping them awake.. coz it brought back a
memory of a game I played to fall asleep, when I was very young.. three or
four? Mebbie younger.. I think.. I would watch the light after I'd said my
prayers, even before I learned to say my prayers... trying to calm my
thoughts enough to make it glow steadily. Anxious thoughts broke it into
shards of blackness. Sometimes if I was successful it turned into moving
op-art designs, shifting and changing like fireworks.
What else was there to do, alone in the dark in bed??
Goddess brought me a book on shamanism last year and there I saw the
patterns in a new light: the patterns of the dreamtime portal. The patterns
of aboriginal sand paintings.
There too, in a collection of images of the "portal guardian", who
appears almost exactly the same in cave paintings worldwide, I found the
name of the nightmare terror of my earliest dreams. The Monster Nun, who if
not approached with perfect love will return every fear magnified into
violence.
The book also told of the next step.. when I became the nun, and others
feared me and were destroyed.. and that was simply too much for my little
girls mind. I had learned I could pray for things.. I prayed "no bad
dreams".. and every time I did, there were none, so I was motivated to keep
it up till the dreams were gone.
To this day I have had dreams where I have been killed in a car accident,
or violently murdered, and I am asking my attacker to at least have the
consideration to wait till I'm finished dying before carving his initials
in my skin.. not scary at all. My ghost goes flying around saying goodbye..
When I first posted about this, is started a thread of wondering if every
child's closet monster was the portal guardian. Mebbie it is. It was
inconclusive.
The worst part of it was waking after the nightmare and discovering I had
brought it with me. I seemed to be surrounded by malicious entities. every
darkened shape in the messy room turned into monsters waiting for me to
move, and even staring at the blank wall was no help because the
microscopic dots of color would shape themselves into skulls and spooks
galore.. scrying the walls. Yoikes. Waking up in another dimension.
Travelling the dreamtime is also a good explanation of two remarkable
dreams I had, one around age four? and the other I think at age 9. In both
of those dreams, I suddenly found myself in the my future adult body. I was
a voyeur to my future self's thoughts and actions, and could understand
very little of what was happening, but some of the biggest surprises have
stayed with me, in remarkable clarity.
I have held them both in memory without fully understanding, still, what
was going on in them. I do know that many of the elements of them are in my
life now, so altho they have not occurred yet, their prophecy rings true.
Another element of one of the dreams fell into place just last night.
Shall I take a "left turn" and storytell? Why not?
An attitude the child observed in the adult, in the later dream was the
willingness to offer physical punishment for errors in perfection. This
clear observation, which frightened the heck out of the child has puzzled
me for some time. because I have long restrained myself with a policy of
not physically punishing my slaves when they disappoint me. This policy is
not of my slaves preference, and a conflux of events last night, combined
with some meditations seeking guidance.. culminated in receiving a 6k
email from one of my very first houseboys.
He said he he had suddenly felt compelled to write and close a circle, to
thank me for the wisdom I had given him all those years ago, apologies for
his abrupt departure from my stable and tell me about the positive ways my
words had guided him in his life decisions in the years since. I was
dumbfounded.
All this time I have been blaming myself, thinking I had harmed his
sense of self with my experiments, and giving myself strict rules to be
sure I cannot harm another.. not trusting myself. I had under estimated the
power of forgiveness, and my need for it.. and yet it was an illusion of my
own fear.
So I have switched my policy to that of the Church of Bob. Guilt
interferes with slack, and punishment cures guilt, so they offer free
spankings at their "devivals".
It's kind of odd.. here's me trying to be gentle and kind and wise, and
here's my slaves wishing I was a wee bit more unpredictable and psycho. I
make references to the "Zen <Master's cane", but have always been too
mistrustful of myself to actually use my canes as implements of
correction.. only for pleasure.. but releasing myself from this limit, I
feel like I have sprouted wings. Go figure.
I have felt wings before, wished for them passionately as a child and
imagined them fastened to my shoulder blades. These ones just kind of
showed up, I noticed them, rather than imagined them... and they feel
different than previous. Smaller but more powerful. (shrug) Phenomena.
>>KK:
>>Joe, the reason that I'm pressing on here is that I don't have a model
>for pre-pubescent kundalini experiences. (That doesn't mean there isn't
>one.)
>>Anyway, here's what I say in the Kundalini FAQ - would you agree? Did
>>you experience these in childhood?
>>
>>What are the signs of an awakened kundalini?
>>
>>Briefly, according to classical literature the signs of an awakened
>>kundalini can be grouped into: mental signs, vocal signs and physical
>>signs.
>>Mental signs can include visions that range from ecstatically blissful
>to
>>terrifyingly frightful. Vocal signs can include spontaneous vocal
>>expressions that range from singing or reciting mantras to make various
>>animals sounds such as growling or chirping.
Vocal signs.. I ask Goddess and She storytells me a reminder.
I have a younger brother, we had a big swing set in the backyard with a
"teeter totter" A swing with round seats and a footrest to propel it with,
where two can ride facing each other.
My bro and I would swing for hours, as preschoolers, going Aaaaaa or
eeeeee loud and long as we could manage with our breath. I liked to adjust
my note slightly so it rang jangling in dissonance with his, for the
delicious electricity the sound produced in my body. Human Tibetan bells..
For a break we'd sing O Canada enthusiastically at the top of our lungs,
then go back to ringing. Bro didn't like my dissonance, he preferred
harmony. Perhaps he couldn't feel the electricity like I did?
As an adult, he is a definite skeptic of my experiences.. polite tho. I
do not think he is awakened, but my oldest brother and sister are very
intuitive. My parents, I dunno. My Mom prefaces her occasional psi
experiences with "sometimes I wonder if I'm psychic..?"
Physical signs include
>>trembling, shaking and spontaneously performing hatha yoga postures and
>>pranayamas.
Tough to remember.. kids do weird things.. I was always unusually
flexible, and interested in bending my body into shapes that others
couldn't. Early exhibitionist streak showing up...
I preferred to sit on my feet rather than sitting cross legged.. my Dad
would cuss insisting I was going to grow up pigeon toed. He also was
certain I was going to end up with wide flat feet from always running
around barefoot. He was mistaken on both counts.
>>From a more subjective perspective the more pleasant experiences
>associated
>>with a kundalini awakening may include: waves of bliss, periods
>>of elation, glimpses of transcendental consciousness.
These things I associate with thoughts of the Faerie. I liked the idea
of them even tho folks said they weren't real. I would escape chores by
wandering in the woods.. sometimes unity with nature would give me a great
sense of peace and belonging.. but if I stirred up too many anthills, just
to see them scurry I would end up in a freaking fit of paranoia, thinking
all of the bees were watching me.. I learned running away didn't help. I
stopped stirring up anthills.
Grade 6, reading Jonathan livingston seagull changed my life forever..
seriously ecstatic state. Discovered spirituality of unconditional love
with out judgment, and realized my "outcast" state might have divine purpose.
>> The less pleasant
>>experiences associated with a kundalini awakening may include:
>>trembling, sharp aches in areas associated with the cakras, periods of
>>irrational anxiety, sudden flashes of heat.
A trip to the doctor required lots of complaining, or obvious symptoms of
illness such as a fever. I learned to ignore weird things happening in my
body, I thought they were something everyone experienced, that folks were
too polite to mention.
They accelerated at puberty, I thought that was normal, too.
Hmmm.. what else? Prana-squiggles in the snow and sky trudging back up
the hill with my Krazy Carpet during a blue sky windy clear Chinook.
Elementary school, probably.. by 14 I was legally old enough to drive a
snowmobile..
Well the last memory to wander in, dunno if it means anything, was that
every adult who ever commented to me what I had been like as a baby,
mentioned my eyes, and little else. Children want to forget that they were
babies, so I didn't pay much attention at the time.
What was it about them? They said they were big and brown, and wide
open.. but they spoke of it like it was still a mystery.. like they were
eyes that seemed really out of place on a tiny baby.
Well, there is a handful of recollections.. be curious to see what you
make of them.
Blessings, Mystress.
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