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1998/04/09 04:20
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #280


kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 280
Today's Topics: Kalachakra Registration (fwd) [ "Debora A. Orf" ]
  RE: Kalachakra Tantra [ Kurt Keutzer ] Re: swamy/let there be light [ "Gloria Lee" ]
  Re: Casting Call! [ PEGLUMPKIN ] Gloria Ochs [ LHodges942 ]
  AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Cen [ Sylvia Miner ] Re: go where [ "Sandeep Chatterjee" ]
  Re: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource [ "Brent Blalock" To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Kalachakra Registration (fwd) Message-ID:
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---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 18:53:02 -0500
From: Mary Pattison Reply-To: Tibet Interest List
To: TIBET-LATnospamLISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU Subject: Kalachakra Registration
The Tibetan Cultural Center in Bloomington, Indiana is announcing
registration for the Kalachakra for World Peace 1999.
His Holiness the Dalai Lama will be coming to the Tibetan Cultural Center from August 16 to August 28, 1999 to give the Kalachakra. The
Initiation, with preliminary ceremonies, will take place at the Tibetan Cultural Center. There will be a variety of "surrounding events" that
will take place in Indianapolis, at Indiana University, and in the town of Bloomington. The Opening Ceremony will take place in Indianapolis.
If you wish more details about the Tibetan Cultural Center and the
Kalachakra Initiation, please go to the following address.
 http://www.evansville.net/~mjpatt
To reserve your seat for the Kalachakra ceremonies that will take place at the Tibetan Cultural Center, please go to the following address and
print out a registration form. Send it with your registration payment and a self-addressed stamped envelope to the Tibetan Cultural Center.
In return, you will be sent an official statement of registration.
 http:/www.evansville.net/~mjptt/registration.htm
If you do not have access to the World Wide Web, send a self-addressed stamped envelope to the Tibetan Cultural Center. We will send you a
registration form and list of accomodations in the Bloomington, Indiana area. The address is
Tibetan Cultural Center
Attn: Kalachakra P.O. Box 2581
Bloomington, IN 47402 Fax: (812) 335-9054
For more information, contact mjpattATnospamevansville.net
Hope to see you!! Mary
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 15:28:47 PDT From: "Gloria Lee"
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, hbarrettATnospamix.netcom.com Subject: re: creation
Message-ID: >Sandeep mentioned the in- and outbreaths of Brahman...
> >In Jewish mysticism, in- and out-breaths occur about every 3,000 years,
>corresponding with the predominant influence of masculine or feminine >aspects of G-d. The time between breaths is powerful and possibly
>chaotic. We're about to change over from masculine to feminine. Sigh! >Holly
> >so..is it an in or out breath that is feminine???
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From: Kurt Keutzer To: "'Rick Puravs'" ,
 "Debora A. Orf" ,
 "kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com"
Subject: RE: Kalachakra Tantra Message-ID:
To: Debora A. Orf; kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Kalachakra Tantra
>Is anybody planning on going to see HHDL in Aug 1999 for the Kalachakra >Tantra initiation?=20
> >Probably be one of the few times yours truly ventures beyond the =
Missippi >River. Would love to meet K-listers=20
> >Anyways if u are planning, i heard from a little bird registrations =
forms >are coming out soon.
> >--janpa
>
Bloomington, Indiana right? That's within range of Michigan. Any future = updates will
be appreciated.=20
May everything be auspicious, Rick
KK: I plan to go. I am a little concerned about whether it's actually going
to happen. The sponsor, Thubten Norbu aka Tagster Rinpoche aka HHDalai Lama's older brother - just had a severe stroke following a ``freedom march
for Tibet'' in Taiwan. Last I heard he was still in a Taiwan hospital. If he is unable to continue I don't know who there is going to ``make it
happen.''
Incidentally, Tummo (aka chandali - kundalini's cousin) is a part of kalacakra teachings but the teachings in the US are given so widely that
HHDL never goes into that stuff.
Kind Regards, Kurt
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 15:43:20 PDT From: "Gloria Lee"
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, themacmanATnospamearthlink.net Subject: Re: Casting Call!
Message-ID: >Subject: Re: Casting Call!
> >Is there not a part for me?
> >;-)
> >Mark Anthony Collins
>"The MAC Man"
Mac, I offered to adopt you already..and you turned me down..sigh.. but rest assured that if I am cast as Dorothy, we will pick up anyone
and everyone who shows up along the yellow brick road..stray dogs and cats; we stop for turtles to move them safely out of harms way, too. You
can be whoever you want, Mac. :):):):)
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Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 15:47:51 PDT From: "Gloria Lee"
To: sinisa.turinaATnospamzg.tel.hr, hlutharATnospambryant.edu Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: swamy/let there be light Message-ID:
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> >Danijel Turina wrote:
>I think of ego in >
>> terms of the glass board: you have a glass board colored black, and there
>> are spots that are less colored than the others so the light on the other
>> side (Self) can shine through. Every spot is one individual ego. Destroy
>> it? Why? We need to clear it, remove the dirt so the light of Self can
>> shine freely, clear, white and impeccable. >
>Harsha: That is a very beautiful analogy Danijel. For some reason, I am reminded
>of that popular spiritual love song (of the 1970s?) with the catchy tune, "Light
>of the World (Self) shine on me, love is the answer." Who sang that?
Just "WHO" has the windex??? Enquiring minds want to know...LOL
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Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 22:17:56 EDT
From: PEGLUMPKIN To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Casting Call! Message-ID:
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In a message dated 98-04-07 23:39:32 EDT, you write:
< But I've seen lately in a few posts (mine included) some reference to
 the movie The Wizard of Oz. >>
Dibs on a flying monkey suit. (Do you have a size 4 petite?)
Peg Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 23:11:25 EDT
From: LHodges942 To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
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Wow ! I heard about Gloria Ochs, a woman in Newton Kansas, sometime ago, and
ran across her name just recently, along with a phone number, so I called and made an appointment with her. Her ad reads: "Gloria Angelica Ochs, Ordained
Minister, Doctorate of Divinity, Speaker: Akashic Records-Clearing and Cleansing-Angel Workshops-Communications with the Angels. Discover your
Angelic Realm, Guardian Angel and Soul name. Learn your Past LIves and how to use this information now......Telephone Sessions Available (316) 283-1442 "
I called tonight for my appointed time. I found out my Soul Name = Lucia = my
Guardian Angel's name = Rikaia = plus guides = Lonetree, of the Cherokee Nation = Katel, an Egyptian, and others.
Then for the next hour Gloria explored all areas of my records telling me, for
instance, that I've lived 647 lives on this planet, and cleaned and cleared some blocks, and confirmed many things that I had suspected but never knew for
sure. Most importantly to me, she confirmed to me that I am a member in good standing of the White Brotherhood and the Order of Melchizedek and the Dolphin
Order. I've always felt that I was a member of the Order of Melchizedek, but never knew for sure.
I highly recommend her services to anyone. You pay for the phone call, plus a
fee, but she's the best I've ever been to, bar none.
(Leona) Lucia Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 17:37:25 -1000 (HST)
From: Sylvia Miner To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
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I would like to understand what Kundalini is all about. What are the positive and negative effects it has on people who have it? What does one need to read to grow spiritually strong? What happens with friendships and relationships to those that realize they have kundalilni experiences?
I appreciate your support.
Sylvia Miner
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 09:35:11 +0530 From: "Sandeep Chatterjee"
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Hi Ed
An excellent book may I suggest title of which is"
Don't sweat the small stuff and It's all small stuff.

Sandeep

-----Original Message----- From: Ed Jewasinski
To: Kundalini list ; Garden (the) ; Jan Watson ; harish
; Anold Lloyd Date: Wednesday, April 08, 1998 07:32 PM
Subject: go where
>The Virtue of Creative Laziness!
> >Conventional wisdom says the keys to success are ambition, drive and
>hard work. We all know men and women who talk about working 80 hours a >week as if it's a badge of honor, and we've all heard that laziness is
>among the worst of failings. But, we have also heard about people who >died at their desks at age 50, and as I get closer to that age, it seems
>far too high a price to pay. I don't want to work 80 hours a week, and >if I occasionally do work way more than I want to, I don't brag about my
>poor planning! I think there is a better way, and it is the virtue of >creative, planned laziness! Let me make 5 specific suggestions:
> >1. Take the path of LEAST RESISTANCE. For maximum success, go where
>things are easy! How often do you invest precious time and energy >trying to make something work? Often, there is another opportunity,
>another way of doing it, another market that will be far more receptive. >If at first you don't succeed, try something different!
> >2. Focus on the task with MAXIMUM IMPACT! Many of us end up spending
>endless hours (and our lives) struggling with trivia. We answer phones, >shuffle papers, and do all the million things that need doing, and for
>what? Most of those things are trivia and will make, at most, only a >small contribution to our success. At any given moment, there is one
>task that, when completed, will have more impact on your business, your >success and your life than all the others combined. Focus on that one!
> >3. DELEGATE EVERYTHING! Instead of doing all those trivial things (many
>of which do need attention), delegate them! Hire someone to clean your >house, mow your lawn, and wash the car. Get a virtual assistant to
>balance your checkbook and use a delivery service to pickup the dry >cleaning! Hire wisely, and supervise closely, but only invest your time
>and attention on those things once! Don't wait, delegate! >
>4. Strive for MAXIMUM JOY! When we do work we love and that brings us >joy, we almost always do it very well. And the key is that the world
>will pay a premium for extraordinary performance! When you work with >passion and joy, you are fulfilling your own inner needs, and maximizing
>the value of your services. Nobody ever got rich through drudgery! If >you don't "whistle while you work", change jobs!
> >5. SIMPLIFY EVERYTHING! Out of chaos, bring order. Out of confusion,
>find peace. Out of stress, well, just get out! Limit the number of >daily appointments, schedule time to be creative, time for fun, time for
>peace. Understand the distinction between sophisticated and >complicated. And, don't die at your desk unless you're really sure you
>want to. >
>Most of us work too hard, and accomplish too little. A little creative, >intelligent laziness can often fix that!
> >
>Phil, Mary & the Staff >Resources for Success!
> >
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> Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 10:33:57 +0530
From: "Sandeep Chatterjee" To:
Subject: Sufi Message-ID:
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There was a request for information of Sufi and whether there is any web sites.
I am very sorry but a computer breakdown here seems to have wiped out some of my In Box.
Hence I am posting to the Kudalini List.
For me Osho has dealt with Sufi and Sufi mystics in a manner not dealt by anybody else and I would suggest visiting the web site osho.org to then try and reach the Sufi section.
If one is located in the US or Europe for that matter, there are number of Osho centers from where Osho's discourses on Sufi mystics could be availed of as either books or tapes.
Wish you all the success

In zikr
Sandeep
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Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 22:58:52 -0700 From: "Solar Lion"
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There was a request for information of Sufi and whether there is any web sites.
http://world.std.com/~habib/sufi.html#resources
http://www.sufiorder.org/sufilink.html http://world.std.com/~habib/sufi.html#websites
everything from news groups
email groups websites
dance organizations
to you name it

Solar Lion (Bob)
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-------------------------------------------------Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 02:29:23 -0500 From: "Brent Blalock"
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> From: Sylvia Miner
> To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com > Subject: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center
> Date: Wednesday, April 08, 1998 10:37 PM >
> I would like to understand what Kundalini is all about.
Well, a picture is worth a thousand words, and an experience is worth a thousand pictures (one million words). Methinks the only way you're going
to really answer that one is to awaken Kundalini. :)
I see you've found the KRC's Web site. I think that their Web site contains more information than a single message could possibly contain, and
presents the material in an easy-to-understand manner. But you're probably still curious, so I'll give you my take on the situation. Almost all of my
information is second-hand (books and such), but I'm sure that most k-awakened people would agree w/ me (please do correct me if I'm wrong
'bout somethin').
There is a lot of theory and a lot of first-hand human experience with Kundalini. A lot of that kind of info is covered on the KRC's web site,
especially the Frequently Asked Questions pages.
But you're probably curious, so I'll give a quick summary. Bear in mind that I have not had a "kundalini awakening", so my knowledge is almost all
second-hand (books and such), but I think that most k-awakened people would not disagree w/ my opinions (please do correct me if I'm wrong, k-awakened
people).
Kundalini is an energy source that either lies dormant until awakened (it's "off" and can be "flipped on") or is used relatively little until people
learn to tap into it (it can be turned up or down, like the volume for a radio). Some people are also of the opinion that Kundalini is not just an
energy source, but a fully intelligent being (a goddess, even). Yoga-types believe her to be a serpent-goddess.
There are a number of people who claim to have had "kundalini awakening"
experiences. They may or may not have been doing something like meditating or doing yoga postures at the time. I have never come across a story of a
full "kundalini awakening" experience that was not a profound one.
The most common experience is of this format: A person will do something yoga-ish like meditate in a yoga-position. Then a firey-hot energy will
rise from the base of their spine and shoot up to their brain and out the top of their head. Then they'll have some kind of major change in their
state of consciousness. This may or may not be accompanied by intense pain in places where energy flow is blocked or slowed, hallucinations (aka
"visions"), muscle spasms, etc. From that point, their life is often slowly (or quickly) transformed permanently into something more yoga-ish
(they'll become a vegetarian, stop associating what they are with their "ego", etc.).
I think that looking at people's experiences will help to paint a more
vivid picture of what Kundalini does to people than learning all these Sanskrit words and talking about karma. Gopi Krishna wrote a few books
describing his experience w/ Kundalini (). Another book that seems different than most is _Path_Notes_Of_An_American_Ninja_Master_, by Glenn
Morris. What's different about that book is that most people who go thru a k-awakening seem to be somewhat into yoga or eastern-religion-type stuff.
The author was more of a redneck, steak-and-potatoes-eatin' Texan (not to stereotype people from Texas, of course).
Dat be my 2¢.
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 03:19:00 -0500 From: Ann Morrison Fisher
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com Subject: Re: Creation
Message-Id:  [From "Four Quartets" by T.S. Eliot]
V
To communicate with Mars, converse with spirits, To report the behaviour of the sea monster,
Describe the horoscope, haruspicate or scry, Observe disease in signatures, evoke
Biography from the wrinkles of the palm And tragedy from fingers; release omens
By sortilege, or tea leaves, riddle the inevitable With playing cards, fiddle with pentagrams
Or barbituric acids, or dissect The recurrent image into pre-conscious terrors-
To explore the womb, or tomb, or dreams; all these are usual Pastimes and drugs, and features of the press:
And always will be, some of them especially When there is distress of nations and perplexity
Whether on the shores of Asia, or in the Edgware Road. Men's curiosity searches past and future
And clings to that dimension. But to apprehend The point of intersection of the timeless
With time, is an occupation for the saint- No occupation either, but something given
And taken, in a lifetime's death in love, Ardour and selflessness and self-surrender.
For most of us, there is only the unattended Moment, the moment in and out of time,
The distraction fit, lost in a shaft of sunlight, The wild thyme unseen, or the winter lightning
Or the waterfall, or music heard so deeply That it is not heard at all, but you are the music
While the music lasts. These are only hints and guesses, Hints followed by guesses; and the rest
Is prayer, observance, discipline, thought and action. The hint half guessed, the gift half understood, is Incarnation.
Here the impossible union. Of spheres of existence is actual,
Here the past and future Are conquered, and reconciled,
Where action were otherwise movement Of that which is only moved
And has in it no source of movement- Driven by daemonic, chthonic
Powers. And right action is freedom >From past and future also.
For most of us, this is the aim Never here to be realised;
Who are only undefeated Because we have gone on trying;
We, content at the last If our temporal reversion nourish
(Not too far from the yew-tree) The life of significant soil.
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 13:13:23 From: Mystress Angelique Serpent
To: "Debora A. Orf" Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
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  Where is it?
At 10:27 AM 08/04/98 -0500, Debora A. Orf wrote:
>Is anybody planning on going to see HHDL in Aug 1999 for the Kalachakra >Tantra initiation?
> >Probably be one of the few times yours truly ventures beyond the Missippi
>River. Would love to meet K-listers >
>Anyways if u are planning, i heard from a little bird registrations forms >are coming out soon.
> >--janpa
> >
>

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