1998/04/06  21:13  
 kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #270 
  
kundalini-l-d Digest				Volume 98 : Issue 270
 
Today's Topics: 
  Re: The Weeping Guru-Lets Party!      [ anandajyoti <anandajyotiATnospamgeocities. ] 
  re-introduction                       [ lorianna <loriannaATnospamintrlink.com> ] 
  Re: KL : EGO                          [ Am <heidiATnospamadan.kingston.net> ] 
  Re: KL : EGO                          [ David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net> ] 
  Re: KL : EGO                          [ Imtgxxx <ImtgxxxATnospamaol.com> ] 
  RE: The Weeping Guru-Lets Party!      [ "Jan Barendrecht" <janbarenATnospamcorreo. ] 
  Fw: KL : EGO                          [ "Sandeep Chatterjee" <sandeepcATnospambom3 ] 
  Re: Enlightenment (One Mo' Time)      [ anandajyoti <anandajyotiATnospamgeocities. ] 
  Re: kundalini questions               [ Jerry Katz <umbadaATnospamns.sympatico.ca> ] 
  Re: The Weeping Guru-Lets Party!      [ Jerry Katz <umbadaATnospamns.sympatico.ca> ] 
  Re: a poem                            [ anandajyoti <anandajyotiATnospamgeocities. ] 
  Re: A new Mantra                      [ Harsha1MTM <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com> ] 
  Re: Master debaters?                  [ anandajyoti <anandajyotiATnospamgeocities. ] 
  Re: The Weeping Guru-Lets Party!      [ Jerry Katz <umbadaATnospamns.sympatico.ca> ] 
  Re: KL : EGO                          [ Dan Margolis <margolisATnospamtransbay.net ] 
  Re: A new Mantra                      [ "Ed" <lobATnospamlineone.net> ] 
  Re: Doggy Kundalini                   [ "Orea de Sa' Hana" <oreaATnospamerols.com> ] 
  Re: KL : EGO                          [ David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net> ] 
  Re: Discovering the reptile within    [ melintonATnospamalison.sbc.edu ] 
  Re: a poem                            [ David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net> ] 
  Re: swamy                             [ Danijel Turina <sinisa.turinaATnospamzg.te ] 
  Re: KL : EGO                          [ David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net> ] 
  Re: a poem                            [ Harsha1MTM <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com> ] 
Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 10:26:45 -0700 
From: anandajyoti <anandajyotiATnospamgeocities.com> 
To: lobATnospamlineone.net 
CC: themacmanATnospammacsrule.com, kundalini-LATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: The Weeping Guru-Lets Party! 
Message-ID: <35291055.4BD0DC22ATnospamgeocities.com> 
 
The word must have been spelt wrong. Could it be Zambukka ? A shot or two 
would probably be very helpful in locating the source of "Gazoombas' 
Anandajyoti 
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/6782
 
Ed wrote:
 
> > Exactly which Sanscrit word translates into "gazoombas"?!? 
> 
> All of them. 
> Basically Sanskrit is a Holy language (like English when used correctly) 
> and all words can be reduced to their core meaning. The sense of touch and 
> nutrition found in the mothers breast is inherent in all later 
> communication. 
> 
> Lobster 
> off to find some "gazoombas" 
Date: Sun, 05 Apr 1998 19:37:53 -0400 
From: lorianna <loriannaATnospamintrlink.com> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com 
Subject: re-introduction 
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Greetings everyone:}
 
It has been a while since i have been on the Kundalini list.  I had to 
unsubscribe there for a while til i got a better email address that could 
handle all the mail that comes in from the list.
 
Now i am back and eager to read all of your mailings.  
 
For those who remember me, i used to have the email sent to my yahoo 
account under the name of Lady Enchantment...adn my real name is Lorianna...
 
I am Wiccan, a poet, and a grad student, as well as an herbalist and a 
reiki practicioner.  I first experienced Kundalini about three years 
ago...but didnt know what it was until this past Autumn.  
 
well i am just happy to be back with you all and i will try to keep up this 
time...Merry Partings and brightest blessings all.
 
Love and Light...
 
Lorianna 
Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 22:56:46 -0400 
From: Am <heidiATnospamadan.kingston.net> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com 
Subject: Re: KL : EGO 
Message-Id: <199804060256.WAA02285ATnospamadan.kingston.net> 
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> 
>> 
>>> >I would say an enlightened person lives totally and completely in the NOW. 
>>> 
>>> WHOOHOO! Sandeep: In that case, I've been enlightened for the last 11 years. 
> 
>>>Am 
>> 
Dan wrote:
 
>How can you talk about the last 11 years if your completely in the NOW? 
> 
> 
>How not, when my whole past has led up to my learning to live in the NOW? 
Would you like a debate on it? Sorry, at this very moment I'm enjoying a 
delectable strawberry sunday while typing this reply to ya. ;) 
> 
>LOL (although not AT you, rather, WITH you) 
> 
>Am 
> 
    We are EVERYTHING and we are NOTHING
 
      (gleaned from an NDE account) 
Date: Sun, 05 Apr 1998 22:32:10 -0400 
From: David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net> 
To: Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com> 
Subject: Re: KL : EGO 
Message-ID: <35283EA9.B8D29D1FATnospammail.snet.net> 
 
Someone asks:
 
> > Who controls ego?
 
anandajyoti wrote:
 
>   ALL parts of you.
 
The Unified Self is beyond distinctions/ego, no? 
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 00:20:19 EDT 
From: Imtgxxx <ImtgxxxATnospamaol.com> 
To: anandajyotiATnospamgeocities.com 
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com 
Subject: Re: KL : EGO 
Message-ID: <29b51c2c.35285804ATnospamaol.com> 
 
 > Jan  wrote: 
 > > > Control of the activities of mind (yoga) means 
 > > control of ego also. 
 > 
 David  wrote: 
 > Who controls ego? 
  >>
 
The Wizard of Oz 
The One behind the curtain
 
And who reveals this control freak? 
Oh My... 
It's ToTo, too!
 
Wouldn't you know it... 
an annagram of God 
reveals the Wizard 
in all his Glory 
to be a mere 
mortal of 
Man
 
xxxtg
 
 * I'm 46 years old, but I read at the 50 year old level *
 
http://members.aol.com/Teeegeee/tgsplace.html  <~~~~ on the web now! 
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 05:27:33 +0100 
From: "Jan Barendrecht" <janbarenATnospamcorreo.infase.es> 
To: <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com> 
Subject: RE: The Weeping Guru-Lets Party! 
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Lobster wrote: 
<snip>
 
> > Lobster 
> > off to find some "gazoombas" 
> 
As an occasional hobby cryptologist, I tried some simple solutions. The most 
probable: The word can be seen as  ga - zoo - mbas. In Spanish, gambas mean 
"big shrimps". Not knowing the exact context, something like  " big shrimps 
[...] zoo. The [...] was probably snipped due to a glitch or so. Using more 
than one language in an encrypted message is not unusual. But in Spanish, 
"zoo" has the same meaning as in English.
 
Jan 
off to finish a piece of music 
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 09:46:38 +0530 
From: "Sandeep Chatterjee" <sandeepcATnospambom3.vsnl.net.in> 
To: <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com> 
Subject: Fw: KL : EGO 
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-----Original Message----- 
From: Sandeep Chatterjee <sandeepcATnospambom3.vsnl.net.in> 
To: Jan Barendrecht <janbarenATnospaminfase.es> 
Date: Monday, April 06, 1998 09:45 AM 
Subject: Re: KL : EGO
 
>Hi Jan 
> 
>        Continuing where I left of last night....... 
> 
>        Sandeep (earlier): 
>        At the early morning breakfast table, the new disciple anxious to 
>show his 
>        >depth of study of esoteric subjects asks the Master 
> 
>        >Is there life after Death 
>        >Is there a soul 
>        >Do we carry the seeds of our desires from life time to life time. 
>        >Do you agree with Jesus's statement that in My Father's Kingdon 
>time shall 
>        >be no more 
>        >How can I use my awakened kundalini to do Astral travelling 
> 
> 
>        >The Master points to the disciple's plate and remarks "Your food 
is 
>getting 
>        >cold". 
>        >The crestfallen disciple did not understand the profundity of this 
>remark. 
>        >The reality of that moment was just that........ the food on the 
>plate was 
>        >becoming cold. Nothing more, nothing less. 
> 
>        Jan: 
>        Consuming hot food is very unhealthy. Among others, it causes 
>lymphocytosis. The great Zen master didn´t understand the politeness of the 
>knowledgeable disciple, to let the food cool down before consumption.... 
>        Sandeep: 
>        I see no point that you are making. 
> 
>        >Some thoughts in an idle moment............. 
> 
>        >One has not to fall into the whirl of calming the mind 
>        >That in itself is the restlessness 
>        >The mind is what it is, accept it as such 
>        >This acceptance brings peace. 
>        Jan: 
>        Accepting an agitated, confused mind - it is accepting 
restlessness. 
>Accepting restlessness brings peace? The judge: "Why did you commit this 
>crime?" The suspect: "I accepted my mind as it is and it brought me peace. 
>Hadn´t it been for the  detective , it would even have brought me a million 
>bucks ". 
> 
>        Sandeep: 
>        We have for the last 2000 years judged, condemned, and sentenced.Do 
>you see any less restlesness in the world as a consequence? 
>        Let's forget the rest. What about you Jan? By non-accepting your 
own 
>restless mind has it brought you quietude? 
>        Sandeep: 
>        >Rejection is restlessness, acceptance is peace- and he who reaches 
>total 
>        >acceptance "attains" 
>        Jan: 
>        The former suspect, now a convicted inmate, still peacefully 
accepts 
>his mind, that is becoming strongly influenced by the wisdom of his fellow 
>inmates. Upon reaching total acceptance, he attains as a master of  white 
>collar outlaws. 
>        Sandeep: 
>        Again I have no wish to discourse on theoritical statements. 
>        Live in total acceptance and see for your self the truth of this 
>statement: 
>        My world is a reflection of me. If I am angry, stressed then my 
>world is a world of anger, stress. 
>        If I am in harmony, in peace (StithPragya is a better word but I do 
>not know an exact english translation) then my world is a world of 
>tranquility of quietude. 
>        See for your self Jan. Be your own light as Buddha kept on saying. 
>        Sandeep (earlier): 
>        >Acceptance cannot come from an act of will. 
>        >"I accept" conceals non-acceptance 
>        >because will is always of the ego. 
>        >Ego cannot live unless fed by rejection. 
>        >Acceptance can never be brought about by action, 
>        >only understanding life can bring it about. 
>        Jan: 
>        When did the ego arise then? Clearly, neither an unborn nor a newly 
>born baby ever was caught in the act of "feeding their ego by rejecting 
it". 
>Understanding life  -  some meditators would call the pondering over life 
>just another activity of the restless mind. 
> 
>        Sandeep: 
>        The ego is born with the need, with the instinct of survival. 
Please 
>for heaven's sake let no one get the impression that I espouse the 
>uselessness of the ego. It is very much a part of one's growth. I am only 
>asking to see it's nature. In that seeing is the transcedence. 
>        Sandeep (earlier): 
>        >Look, look at life 
>        >What is is, it is as it is. 
>        >Things are such- do not ask them to be otherwise 
>        >because they cannot be, even if you so desire. 
>        Jan: 
>        For a dog, life is mainly the scent of everything around it. For an 
>inhabitant of a poor country, life is getting food. For a scientist, life 
is 
>the latest edition of Nature. For a skilled meditator, life is unchanging 
>        Sandeep: 
>        So what is the point you are making? 
>        Jan: 
>        Only on TV did I come across comics who were talking to their car 
>:-) 
> 
>        Sandeep: 
>        So talking to a car ( an inaminate object) is absurd for you is it? 
>        I do not make this to be a personal comment to you as you may not 
be 
>a theist but tell me in what way is a prayer to a Cross or a Mosque or a 
>temple different? 
>        In what way are all your concepts of the Ultimate different? 
>        Incidentally are you familiar with Reiki? Reiki is a system of 
>wholistic healing using the Universal Energy and there is no distinction 
>whatsoever if you wish to use Reiki to heal your cancer cells or a non 
>functional TV set. 
>        So please do not discount those TV freaks. They might well have 
been 
>Reiki Masters. 
> 
>        Sandeep (earlier): 
>        >Desire is altogether impotent 
>        >And can there be restlessness without desire? 
>        Jan: 
>        On the contrary, desire is very powerful. There are mental states 
>where only anxiety and utter confusion are present - no desires. These 
>states are extremely restless, sometimes to the extent that hospitalization 
>is necessary. 
> 
>        Sandeep: 
>        Anxiety is not a desire? 
>        Madness is not a desire to escape the reality of Now? 
> 
>        Sandeep (earlier) 
>        >All error, all ignorance comes from identification. 
> 
> 
> 
>        Jan: 
>          No, Identification and error come from ignorance, not the other 
>way. In classical yoga,ignorance (avidya) is the principle among the five 
>causes of affliction. 
>        Sandeep: 
>        Jan what are the tools of  your identity? A name, a relationship 
> son, husband, boyfriend,father, member of society, professional status, 
>Republican, Democrat, Left, Right, New Age, Classical Yogist etc, etc  ), 
>some dearly held concepts, some values of living. 
>        This is what I mean by identification. One never starts with 
>Ignorance. If one could, one is already wise. 
>         One starts with these normal tools of identification and then when 
>one looks at these "identifications"  and sees the shithouse that these 
>"identifications" have led oneself, then one sees own's ignorance. 
>        Jan I repeat what I stated earlier. Look at these non-senses and if 
>you find value in them- welcome. 
>        If you don't cast the aside, because the most important element in 
>this dialogue is you, not these words or me. 
> 
>        In zikr 
> 
>        Sandeep 
> 
Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 11:45:05 -0700 
From: anandajyoti <anandajyotiATnospamgeocities.com> 
To: Imtgxxx <ImtgxxxATnospamaol.com> 
CC: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com 
Subject: Re: Enlightenment (One Mo' Time) 
Message-ID: <352922B0.A349F76FATnospamgeocities.com> 
 
Exactly! What is said here is truthful and full of simplicity and wisdom of the 
world, which we have chosen to become complicated. As if ,with the aura of 
complications we find lots of information hard to agree with or believe. 
IMHO as the Transcendent or God in the absolute sense , if it be infinity, and all 
of the Universe with its contents diverged from it, through , what we call 
creation, then,  there would infinite possibilities and infinite perceptions and 
infinite ways to decipher the question of enlightenment, in this relative world of 
infinite opposites. You become what you think you are, and it matters very little 
or should I say, of no significant consequence, what others may think or do about 
enlightenment. Be  as I am, evoluted through the spiral of creation, into this 
human form for the present. Be happy, no worry about enlightenment or its 
opposite, if it is there somewhere.
 
Anandajyoti 
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/6782
 
Imtgxxx wrote:
 
> Hellooo List.... 
> 
> Not to bring up a past subject, but heck, I'm gonna do it anyway.... 
> 
> I've been asking myself these questions these past few weeks about the 
> discussions on Enlightenment.... Why do some people think/know they are 
> enlightened?  Why are there so many arguments (ok, discussions) on whether or 
> not someone is enlightened?  How will I know when I, or someone else,  would 
> be enlightened?  What are the traits of Enlightenment?  and the questions go 
> on and on.... 
> 
> It is important to discover what your own definition of Enlightenment means. 
> And once you achieve that definition, then, you would be *enlightened*.  Now 
> that doesn't mean you would be enlightened in someone else's eyes.... 
> 
> For instance, I may have a goal of *being rich*.  What is my definition of 
> that?  Being rich to me may mean making $100,000 a year.  To someone who 
> already makes $100,000 a year, it means being a millionaire.  To a 
> millionaire, being rich means being a multi-millionaire, and so on....  I may 
> already be *rich* (making my measly $100 grand) in the eyes of someone who 
> only makes $15,000 a year. 
> 
> On his audio tapes and books, Dr. Wayne Dyer is always proclaiming his 
> enlightenment.  It is obvious to me that his definition comes from freedom and 
> acceptance.  He explains his definition further in the last chapter of his 
> book, "Your Erroneous Zones", which I have displayed on my webpage. 
> 
> To be enlightened from Ram's point of view, is to be in the state he was in 
> that he mentioned.  And when he is not in that state, he is not enlightened 
> (from his viewpoint - I beg to differ). 
> 
> The question would be then, is, what belief and definition have you placed 
> upon being enlightened?   Until this group as a whole, comes to one 
> conclusion, there will always be conflict on this subject as to who is 
> enlightened or what it means.  Being that this will most likely not be 
> occurring any time soon, I remain.... 
> 
> xxxtg  <~~~~ totally enlightened 
> 
> My Definition of Enlightenment:  Unenlightened 
> 
> * It doesn't matter who plays Batman * 
> 
> http://members.aol.com/Teeegeee/tgsplace.html  <~~~~ on the web now! 
Date: Sun, 05 Apr 1998 23:19:07 -0700 
From: Jerry Katz <umbadaATnospamns.sympatico.ca> 
To: margolisATnospamtransbay.net, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: kundalini questions 
Message-ID: <352873DB.52AATnospamns.sympatico.ca> 
 
> Dan Margolis wrote: 
> 
> I would like to propose another survey.  For everyone on the list who's 
> kundalini is awakened:What practice or experience caused your kundalini to 
> awaken? 
  
  
Hi Dan,
 
I don't know if my kundalini is awakened (at my age things don't awaken 
that easily), but as a child I had an active third eye and various 
experiences associated with it, intuitively recognizing the third eye as 
I AM.
 
So when I heard about kundalini, I was drawn to it and read some books. 
I did no sort of yoga or meditation, nor did I even want to stimulate 
the classic movement of kundalini.
 
But as an adult I have had classic kundalini experiences.
 
So to answer your question, I think I'm just predisposed to some 
movement of kundalini.
 
Best, 
Jerry 
___________ 
Nondualism of Umba Da 
http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/umbada 
Date: Sun, 05 Apr 1998 22:26:56 -0700 
From: Jerry Katz <umbadaATnospamns.sympatico.ca> 
To: themacmanATnospammacsrule.com, lobATnospamlineone.net, 
 anandajyoti <anandajyotiATnospamgeocities.com> 
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: The Weeping Guru-Lets Party! 
Message-ID: <352867A0.2649ATnospamns.sympatico.ca> 
 
anandajyoti wrote: 
>  
> The word must have been spelt wrong. Could it be Zambukka ? A shot or two 
> would probably be very helpful in locating the source of "Gazoombas' 
> Anandajyoti 
> http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/6782
 
 
> Ed wrote: 
>  
> > > Exactly which Sanscrit word translates into "gazoombas"?!? 
> > 
> > All of them. 
> > Basically Sanskrit is a Holy language (like English when used correctly) 
> > and all words can be reduced to their core meaning. The sense of touch and 
> > nutrition found in the mothers breast is inherent in all later 
> > communication. 
> > 
> > Lobster 
> > off to find some "gazoombas"
 
God love us, forgive us, and help us all ... 
  Jerry 
Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 22:29:16 -0700 
From: anandajyoti <anandajyotiATnospamgeocities.com> 
To: david.bozziATnospamsnet.net 
CC: Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com> 
Subject: Re: a poem 
Message-ID: <3529B9AC.B0C23A1EATnospamgeocities.com> 
 
David Bozzi wrote:
 
> anandajyoti wrote: 
> 
> > Arguing with oneself gives a variety of answers, and many a time good ones at 
> > that, ain't that true? 
> 
> Why does one talk to oneself when one already knows what one will say?
 
Although one knows the answer doubts creep in like ants in chan formationthen he 
asks himself "to be  or not to be, that is the question" 
Anandajyoti 
Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 18:16:12 EDT 
From: Harsha1MTM <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com> 
To: umbadaATnospamns.sympatico.ca, LHodges942ATnospamaol.com 
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: A new Mantra 
Message-ID: <e4782e23.352802aeATnospamaol.com> 
 
In a message dated 4/5/1998 1:41:01 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
umbadaATnospamns.sympatico.ca writes:
 
<< "is this OM?" >>
 
Yes. 
Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 23:01:28 -0700 
From: anandajyoti <anandajyotiATnospamgeocities.com> 
To: Imtgxxx <ImtgxxxATnospamaol.com> 
CC: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com 
Subject: Re: Master debaters? 
Message-ID: <3529C138.6DEC03BEATnospamgeocities.com> 
 
Imtgxxx wrote:
 
> tg wrote... 
>  >* Master debaters often argue with themselves * 
> Gloria Lee wrote: 
>  > No doubt this is true, but WHO wins?? WHO?? 
> 
> I have no answer to that, BUT... LOL... this reminds me of a story.... (yes, 
> but another one....) 
> 
> (The moral of the story is.... I kick ass now since that day - no more Mr. 
> Nice Gal... so bring your $$ when we go shoot pool)
 
That's the way to go Tg 
Anandajyoti
 
> 
> 
> xxxtg 
> 
> * I've got enough guilt now to start my own religion  * 
> 
> http://members.aol.com/Teeegeee/tgsplace.html  <~~~~ on the web now! 
> 
Date: Sun, 05 Apr 1998 23:32:05 -0700 
From: Jerry Katz <umbadaATnospamns.sympatico.ca> 
To: Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com, Gloria Lee <samyanaATnospamhotmail.com> 
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: The Weeping Guru-Lets Party! 
Message-ID: <352876E5.13BAATnospamns.sympatico.ca> 
 
> >Harsha wrote: 
> >> Jerry! WHO is going down on WHO! Going down WHERE! WHERE Jerry! 
> WHERE! 
> >> And HOW!  O.K.  Bring out the potato salad. I have worked up an 
> appetite. 
> > 
> > 
> >Jerry writes: 
> >WHO? WHO? ... Oooooh! Yes! Of course! That's it! I see it now! WHO is 
> >... ... IT! I am it!. I am ENLIGHTENED!! ... is there any cole slaw ... 
> >? 
> >Glo Lee: 
> So now its coleslaw..huh?? Potato salad is passe?? Why am I always the 
> last to find out ?? These pesky Eternal Truths just won't stay still; I 
> run out for more milk, check my email..and now you want coleslaw?? 
> Do you even know WHAT you REALLY want Jerry??
 
Jerry:  
Okay Glo Lee, this time I'm not kidding, I swear to God and I'm not 
crossing my fingers:  Money, sex, and Chinese food. 
Date: Sun, 05 Apr 1998 20:42:27 -0700 
From: Dan Margolis <margolisATnospamtransbay.net> 
To: Am <heidiATnospamadan.kingston.net>, 
 Kundalini Mailing List <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com> 
Subject: Re: KL : EGO 
Message-ID: <35284F23.636008D4ATnospamtransbay.net> 
 
> > 
> >How not, when my whole past has led up to my learning to live in the NOW? 
> Would you like a debate on it? Sorry, at this very moment I'm enjoying a 
> delectable strawberry sunday while typing this reply to ya. ;) 
> >
 
Save me some strawberries...  I'm just sippin some tea... 
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 1997 22:50:37 -0800 
From: "Ed" <lobATnospamlineone.net> 
To: "LHodges942" <LHodges942ATnospamaol.com>, <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com> 
Subject: Re: A new Mantra 
Message-Id: <199804051716.SAA17757ATnospamboober.lineone.net> 
 
> While taking a long, hot soak in the hot tub tonight, with only one 
candle 
> burning, the following mantra came to me, and I thought I'd share it with 
> anyone who wants it: 
> While looking at the flame, either within or without, repeat with each 
exhaled 
> breath: 
>  
> I AM THE FLAME THAT CONSUMES ALL 
>  
> I AM THE FLAME 
>  
> I AM THE SPARK THAT IGNITES THE FLAME 
>  
> I AM THE SPARK 
>  
> I AM THE I AM 
>  
> I AM 
>  
> I
 
Reminds me - whilst bathing I was considering water:
 
You can drink it and find it on the moon. Made in part from the first 
element it contains the primary quality of life and the Spirit flowing into 
each vessel. Its sound is restful, its taste life giving. Of and for life 
is water - like all things a most Holy substance.
 
Lobster (wet as usual) 
Date: Sun, 05 Apr 1998 22:49:01 -0400 
From: "Orea de Sa' Hana" <oreaATnospamerols.com> 
To: deliriumATnospamionet.net, kl List <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com> 
Subject: Re: Doggy Kundalini 
Message-ID: <3528429D.6B91DE19ATnospamerols.com> 
 
I'm very glad to hear he is doing d]so well.. typing around a determined cat./ 
 Orea
 
Delirium wrote: 
>  
> "with proper treatment...80 percent survival"...quoting the veterinary 
> sites on the internet. Aero is doing really well, and he is normal and 
> as full of energy as any puppy I've ever seen. This in spite of the fact 
> that everybody I know had a horror story about losing a pet to 
> parvovirus...it attacks the intestine and the creature can't keep food 
> down. Young puppies are the worst at risk, after the natural immunity 
> given them by their mother fades, about 2 months to 6 months is the 
> worst... 
>  
> So with Aero doing really well, I can't help but think the list members' 
> thoughts and focused energies have helped! 
>  
> --Kath 
>  
> Orea de Sa' Hana wrote: 
>  
> > I don't know much about parvo, what is Aero's prognosis? 
> > 
> > Love, Orea 
Date: Sun, 05 Apr 1998 22:52:10 -0400 
From: David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net> 
To: Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com> 
Subject: Re: KL : EGO 
Message-ID: <3528435A.5581ATnospammail.snet.net> 
 
Dan Margolis wrote:
 
> > Who controls ego? 
>  
> The higher mind... through constant vigilance...
 
Ego is like a reflection. The less realized one is the more 
distorted the reflection. 
When one looks in the mirror how does one change ones' appearance? 
Through the glass? 
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 08:44:47 -0500 
From: melintonATnospamalison.sbc.edu 
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com 
Subject: Re: Discovering the reptile within 
Message-Id: <l03130307b14e8c2995ffATnospam[198.28.38.107]> 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
 
>I think what Gopiji was saying is that to clean up all the mess that us 
>humans have made in this world, we have to release and use that radiant 
>energy...kundalini shakti(brilliant galaxy) which rests at the base of 
>our spine...muladhara chakra(which fills the chairs of power) and allow 
>it to flow up the spine towards the brain...to work with what he calls 
>attunement of the brain. 
> 
>The chairs of power he's referring to I think = the seat of that 
>primordial energy.
 
haha! Gives a new meaning to "seat of wisdom" and "flying by the seat of 
yer pants". I think this will be the title of my new web page!!!  :))) 
--Liz
 
The web site you seek 
cannot be located but 
endless others exist 
  ---- Joy Rothke from Haiku 
    Error Message competition at Salon 
Date: Sun, 05 Apr 1998 22:26:00 -0400 
From: David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net> 
To: Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com> 
Subject: Re: a poem 
Message-ID: <35283D38.6FA9FF25ATnospammail.snet.net> 
 
anandajyoti wrote:
 
> Arguing with oneself gives a variety of answers, and many a time good ones at 
> that, ain't that true?
 
Why does one talk to oneself when one already knows what one will say? 
Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 18:33:37 +0200 
From: Danijel Turina <sinisa.turinaATnospamzg.tel.hr> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com 
Subject: Re: swamy 
Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980406183337.00936be0ATnospampop.tel.hr> 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
 
Hi Shahanshah! :)
 
At 20:03 1998.04.06 +0500, you wrote: 
>Earlier Danijel (whose process is almost same as mine) had mentioned that 
>he has moved faster from heart to throat to ajna chakra and is now working 
>at crown chakra because of his prayer to Satya Sai Baba, thereby drawing 
>my attention to importance of pra yer even for my type of process. 
 
:)
 
>Energy and the process is moving in the direction as expected and advised 
>by this Guru/guide. This letter is to acknowledge thanks to Lobster(Ed 
>Jason), to Danijel, to K-list, to my daugter who fell sick, to my friend 
>Prasad who came on vacation from Dubai and gave my daughter a Mantra cure 
>(saving an operation, pain and hospitalisation) and specially to 
>Guru/Guide known by the name Swamy. 
 
:* :)
 
>I have learnt that till I merge in my "Inner Voice", I have to pray to 
>Him. Even my inner guru "Inner Voice" has allowed me the freedom of 
>choice. This prayer would not have been necessary if I had some Devotion , 
>love or faith for the Inner Voice, but Shahanshah has a big big ego. 
 
:)))) LOL, as you said, having a big ego is not a bad thing, as long as it 
is a transparent one. :) Take care, I love you. :)
 
----- 
E-mail  : sinisa.turinaATnospamzg.tel.hr 
Homepage: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/1377 
Date: Sun, 05 Apr 1998 15:49:14 -0400 
From: David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net> 
To: Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com> 
Subject: Re: KL : EGO 
Message-ID: <3527E03A.130AATnospammail.snet.net> 
 
Jan Barendrecht wrote:
 
> Control of the activities of mind (yoga) means 
> control of ego also.
 
Who controls ego? 
Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 18:13:46 EDT 
From: Harsha1MTM <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com> 
To: ImtgxxxATnospamaol.com, david.bozziATnospamsnet.net 
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com 
Subject: Re: a poem 
Message-ID: <b83f5ab1.3528021cATnospamaol.com> 
 
In a message dated 4/5/1998 3:08:19 PM Pacific Daylight Time, ImtgxxxATnospamaol.com 
writes:
 
<< * Master debaters often argue with themselves * 
  >>
 
Yes. Practice makes them perfect!
 
 
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