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kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #217


kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 217

Today's Topics:
  AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Cen [ Robert H krueger <rhk47f2ATnospamwebtv.net ]
  Re: sudarshan chakra [ Harsha1MTM <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com> ]
  Re: weird sensation. [ Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iis ]
  AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Cen [ Rogert H krueger <rhk47f2ATnospamwebtv.net ]
  AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Cen [ Michele Meyers <MMeyers541ATnospamAOL.COM> ]
  Re: Personal Genius [ "Gloria Lee" <samyanaATnospamhotmail.com> ]
  Re: rebirth [ Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iis ]
  RE: PRANAYAMA [ Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iis ]
  Re: Gloria Greco leaves the list and [ "Gloria Lee" <samyanaATnospamhotmail.com> ]
  Re: PRANAYAMA [ Harsha1MTM <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com> ]
  Re: Miracles?? [ E Jason <lobsterATnospamclara.net> ]
  Re: Personal Genius [ E Jason <lobsterATnospamclara.net> ]
  Re: Gloria Greco leaves the list and [ Harsha1MTM <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com> ]
  Re: gurus redux [ "Rick Puravs" <ric51ATnospamgeorge.lhi.net ]
  Re: street lights and K? [ Antoine <acarreATnospamconcentric.net> ]
  Re: kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #212 [ E Jason <lobsterATnospamclara.net> ]
  Re: Past Lives [ Angela Mary Broad <ambroadATnospamacs.ucal ]
  Re: Personal Genius (Dan) [ amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us ]
  Re: unsubscribe [ Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.co ]
  Re: Gloria Greco leaves the list and [ Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.co ]
  Re: Personal Genius (Thornebush) [ amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us ]
  Re: Personal Genius [ John Living <jlivingATnospamdirect.ca> ]
Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 09:22:20 -1000 (HST)
From: Robert H krueger <rhk47f2ATnospamwebtv.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center
Message-Id: <199803221922.JAA17859ATnospamhaleakala.aloha.net>

Defenitions

Spiritualist : One who ( believes,understands,Knows) that within himself (or herself) dwells a spirit. The universal link binding all men and women as being created equil,reguardless of race, color, or creed.
      (simplicity and common sence)


Spirit: The entity trapped within the individual,teaching him (or her) the steps necessary to complete the process for evolving into the being we are destined to become,with or consious as our guide,and the laws written in our hearts,we persue knowelege with that intended goal,


Kundalini: The process involving consious (us) ( tree of consious) united with Kundalini (tree of knowelege) To learn this understanding.


Note:Since the beginning o time men (and women) have entered this arena trying to understand the meanings of this great puzzle.because of the complexity ( Keys and Knots and levels),along the way, having achieved secussfully even parts thereof, has given man insight and other various knowelege, recorded along the way within their art and writings.Active Kundalinis seek out that knowelege as proof for which it was designed by other active kundalinis along the way. The proofs come both on the good and the evil side. We have a free will and can chooze our own paths, Fortunate for some and unfortunate for others.Granted this is only the way i percieve it and im just a Tonka toy driver,i dont claim to be nothing more than maybe a simple spirit that got lucky so many years ago. This web sight is because of a lot of people inteligent enough to know and ingenious enough to provide. I commend you all for making this possible. I will always hold you within with the highest reguard and r!
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espect you deserve, Right or wrong,the only thing worse than wrong os not to express your views in this matter.so that we all may learn and gain insight from each other.
      Sincerly
      Robert
      
    
   
  

  

 
Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 15:07:33 EST
From: Harsha1MTM <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com>
To: maggie838ATnospamyahoo.com, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: sudarshan chakra
Message-ID: <4a69653.35156f87ATnospamaol.com>

In a message dated 98-03-22 13:54:11 EST, maggie838ATnospamyahoo.com writes:

<< Someone told me it was a Sudarshan Chakra, but I am not
 familiar with this. >>

Harsha: Sudarshan Chakra refers to a weapon in the epic Mahabharta. It used to
appear around the fingers of Krishna when he was about to slay someone. Am I
right Anandajyoti?
Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 22:40:01 +0530 (IST)
From: Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iisc.ernet.in>
To: "Debora A. Orf" <dorf01ATnospammail.win.org>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: weird sensation.
Message-Id: <Pine.SOL.3.93.980322223733.4841A-100000ATnospamBhaskara>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

Hi,
     I haven't felt like that but would like to know more about your
     experience.

Love,
anurag

On Sat, 21 Mar 1998, Debora A. Orf wrote:

>
> just a question for y'all.
>
> ever feel like your heart center is 'pregnant'?
>
> i cant think of another word to describe this.
>
> --janpa
>
>
Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 10:18:37 -1000 (HST)
From: Rogert H krueger <rhk47f2ATnospamwebtv.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center
Message-Id: <199803222018.KAA04822ATnospamhaleakala.aloha.net>

Someone requested me to reveal the secret of the 12 stones in the breastplate as I percieve it, and how it relates to the Kundalini process.Hopefully my Mistress will chalk this one up to comman sence.Anyway it makes sence to me.

Each stone represents a sought after quality listed in the signs of the zodiac. each sign brings fourth its own particular quality of which there are 12. Each person emanating all of these particular signs in one being,passes through the (knot,level,key) easily.We all start out with the goodest of intentions,activating our K.Its possible that even most of the good quaities activate our K ,why throw the baby out with the bath water. K sits within until activated.once activated, the process gives us information to digest with proofs along the way to bring you to the next level.It will forcefully do this if it has to,leaving you in the pecarious situation of trying to figure out what its trying to relate to you by your self.Desperately we search for signs and proofs we know will come along the way,but dont have the slightest idea of what they are,where they are, or what they mean. ( sound familiar)
  Robert

Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 10:56:02 -1000 (HST)
From: Michele Meyers <MMeyers541ATnospamAOL.COM>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center
Message-Id: <199803222056.KAA16841ATnospamhaleakala.aloha.net>

Hi All,

Just re-subscribed to the k-list. (After being out of town 2-1/2 weeks & catching up on approx. 50 emails a day, ALL email stopped on 3/17. I believed that my mailbox was full; however, after deleting tons of messages, still did not receive any from k-list [went into "email withdrawal," so re-subscribed]...) So, keep those cards & letters coming. Thx! Michele
Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 13:05:05 PST
From: "Gloria Lee" <samyanaATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com, janbarenATnospaminfase.es
Subject: Re: Personal Genius
Message-ID: <19980322210506.25000.qmailATnospamhotmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain

>
>
>From Gloria Lee <samyanaATnospamhotmail.com>
>Date: Saturday, March 21, 1998 5:19 PM
>Subject: Re: Personal Genius
>
>Dear Gloria,
>
>I used the expression: "engaging to the extreme in music, painting or
>science etc. with the aid of K. is considered to be abuse of K. or
siddhi=
>"
>so I am rather surprised how you jump to "proper use", since my post
was
>concerned only with the extreme. Nowhere did I mention "proper use" or
>refer to it indirectly. The expression" engaging to the extreme" was
>evaluated in order to leave no doubt as to what was meant by it. IMO I
di=
>d
>the right thing, because for "proper use" their will be 6 billion
opinion=
>s
>or so and I didn=92t want to indulge in a debate on even one of them.
As =
>the
>post was about "genius", of course it leaves out many - is that a
reason =
>not
>to discuss it? In order not to be taken very seriously, I used the word
>"speculative" once and the word "speculation" twice and yet you take
thin=
>gs
>very seriously, as if you are personally offended.
>So I would like to return the question: Where did you take the (giant)
le=
>ap
>from extreme to proper use and then take it so seriously despite the
>repeated "disclaimer" of speculation?
>
>Jan
>
Dear Jan,
You are quite right. Now that I re-read and see your rational cautions
were present even from the original post, I realize how emotional my
reaction was..to the extreme, even!!! Sorry, but I do this a lot. I am
just a very emptional person. It was in fact more of a kind of reaction
to this genius discussion which took place some time back on the list.
My views were meant somewhat kindly to defend humanity in general from
elitist views, but I can now quite clearly see you meant no harm.
Thank you for your very calm response to my babblings... the rigors of
intellectual discussions are just too much for me on some days. I do
appreciate your thoughts and I think I see your position more clearly
now. Thank you for your many contributions to our list..I enjoy your
mind, sorry I appear to have lost mine.
Glo Lee

PS. Picasso may have been a genius, but he was rather mean to his many
wives, lovers, and children.

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Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 21:45:58 +0530 (IST)
From: Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iisc.ernet.in>
To: Gaurav Asthana <gauravATnospamlw1.vsnl.net.in>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: rebirth
Message-Id: <Pine.SOL.3.93.980322214356.3869C-100000ATnospamBhaskara>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

Hi,
     Rahul I think what you are saying below should be true.

love,
anurag

> Kundalini is a vehicle not for
> this life only but it may mould ones next lives also depending on it's
> intensity of thrust and one's karma in this life.Kundalini and karma have
> to be taken into account together to get the picture of things to come.
> with love,
> Rahul
>
>
>
Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 21:27:41 +0530 (IST)
From: Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iisc.ernet.in>
To: Roberto Gonzales del Valle <930359ATnospamaloe.ulima.edu.pe>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: RE: PRANAYAMA
Message-Id: <Pine.SOL.3.93.980322211350.3869B-100000ATnospamBhaskara>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

Hi Roberto,
      Your becoming aware of nervous and energetic channels is a
      beautiful experience. I think through pranayama you will be
      able to experience that again. PRANAYAMA are basically
      breathing exercices. There are some 10-12 breathing exercices
      under pranayama. If you can find a Yoga teacher then it will
      be better if you start under his/her guidance. Someone told
      me that NETI one more yoga exercise will also be helpful in
      kundalini raising. I haven't read any yoga book as such.

      May be anadajyoti, harsh or others will be able to help you
      out.

      I remember that there is a YOGA book by B.K. IYENGAR. I don't
      have the title.
 
      May be you can get something from this site
      
      www.geocities.com/Athens/Acropolis/1863/index.html

Love,
anurag
Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 13:22:30 PST
From: "Gloria Lee" <samyanaATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, lodpressATnospamintercomm.com
Subject: Re: Gloria Greco leaves the list and sends love to all
Message-ID: <19980322212231.25954.qmailATnospamhotmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain

k
>K list friends,
> I have decided to go off of the list for a while. I am very busy right
>now with my three little foster girls, 5 year old Savannah, 8 yr old
>Sarah and Shannon who is 11. This girls have lived in and out of motel
>rooms for most of their life and in the park at times even. So, my
>husband and I are initiating some big changes in their life, which also
>involves some changes in ours as well.
> I have enjoyed meeting all of you and will come back if and when
spirit
>moves me in that direction. I have finished my kundalini experience
book
>and it is going to be read by several possible publishers, I will let
>you know if and when it is out there if any of you are interested.
> Until then, and I know I have to do the right process in order to get
>off, but I will do it and sign off for now. Love to all of you. Gloria
>Joy Greco
>
>
Dear Gloria,
Very best wishes with your new foster children, what a blessing it is
for you to share your home and love in this way. You have always shown
such a willingness to help others here on the list, too. Please do come
back.. and let us know what happens with your book, too!!
Glo Lee

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Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 16:35:41 EST
From: Harsha1MTM <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com>
To: anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iisc.ernet.in, 930359ATnospamaloe.ulima.edu.pe
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: PRANAYAMA
Message-ID: <94b6dbd9.3515842fATnospamaol.com>

In a message dated 98-03-22 16:09:09 EST, anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iisc.ernet.in
writes:

<< PRANAYAMA are basically
breathing exercices. There are some 10-12 breathing exercices
under pranayama. >>

Harsha: Pranayama is really at the heart of Yoga and Kundalini Yoga. Deep
meditation also automatically leads to Kevala Kumbhaka and the arousal of
Shakti. Watching the breath is a safe exercise. When the Sarswati Nadi is
flowing (The left nostril is fully open), then deep breathing with slow
inhalation and exhalation is very good and will lead to meditation. Advanced
exercises like Bhastrika followed by Bandha Traya (application of all three
Bandhas) and Yoni Mudra should be learned cautiously and under guidance only.
There are many advanced pranayama exercises which have a powerful effect on
the nervous system and the brain. They are best suited for serious Hatha Yoga
aspirants, who have discipline, and are fairly young. It is not necessary to
practice the Hatha Yogic Pranayama exercises to attain Samadhi or Self-
Realization. See my paper below for more details on Pranayama and Kundalini in
the context of Tantra..........Harsha

The Spiritual Experience and the Awakening of
>Kundalini Shakti in Tantra Yoga
>http://www.telebyte.nl/~frans/kundalini/harsh.html
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 97 08:16:12 GMT
From: E Jason <lobsterATnospamclara.net>
To: kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Miracles??
Message-Id: <970322081612.n0002189.lobsterATnospammail.clara.net>

on 21 Mar 98, Gloria Lee wrote...

> For janpa...and her poem..
>From: "Touching Peace" by Thich Nhat Hanh
>
> Our true home is in the present moment. To live in the present moment
>is a miracle. The miracle is not to walk on water. The miracle is to
>walk on the green Earth in the present moment, to appreciate the peace
>and beauty that are available now. Peace is all around us-in the world
>and in nature-and within us -in our bodies and our spirits. Once
>we learn to touch this peace,we will be healed and transformed. It is
>not a matter of faith; it is a matter of practice. We need only to find
>ways to bring our body and mind back to the present moment so we can
>touch what is refreshing, healing, and wondrous.

Thich Nhat Hanh was I believe trained in the Zen tradition for those who got the
impression that all Zen teachers are dangerous psychopaths from a previous
posting . . .

Be Well
The Sound of One Lobster
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 97 07:26:13 GMT
From: E Jason <lobsterATnospamclara.net>
To: kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Personal Genius
Message-Id: <970322072613.n0002186.lobsterATnospammail.clara.net>

on 21 Mar 98, amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us wrote...
and
>Dan Margolis wrote:

>>Again, I agree entirely. The most upsetting thing I've discovered about
>>this list is this sense of 'specialness.'
>
>Are you uncomfortable with your own "specialness?" I can relate. I felt
>that way once, sometimes I still do, but less and less as the years pass
>and I learn more about myself.

Strangely enough to realise you are special is special. Just as to understand
how ordinary that is, is also ordinary for special people.
Incidently I am a Lobster :-)
It is for that and other reasons that I advocate sanity and ordinary life as a
way of measuring ones experience and putting it in context.

>>People seem to spend more time
>>discussing the obtuse effects of k-energy than discussing living an ordinary
>>life.

Yeah I know, what can you do - to behave in this way on a forum devoted to
kundalini - guess some people are beyond ones ability to comprehend . . .
A lot of people do not lead ordinary lives because the experience of K alters
their response to life. However the list changes, people are different, people
emphasise different aspects . . .

amckeon:
>I am happily married, live in the Midwest, and watch a lot of TV. What
>would you like to know about living an ordinary life? A while back there
>was a discussion of soul mates, and I posted about how much I loved my
>husband. I think that would fall under the "how to live an ordinary life"
>category.

Wonderful!

Most Kind Regards
Lobster
Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 16:41:48 EST
From: Harsha1MTM <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com>
To: samyanaATnospamhotmail.com, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, lodpressATnospamintercomm.com
Subject: Re: Gloria Greco leaves the list and sends love to all
Message-ID: <54d8d45c.3515859eATnospamaol.com>

In a message dated 98-03-22 16:36:56 EST, samyanaATnospamhotmail.com writes:

<< Dear Gloria,
 Very best wishes with your new foster children, what a blessing it is
 for you to share your home and love in this way. You have always shown
 such a willingness to help others here on the list, too. Please do come
 back.. and let us know what happens with your book, too!!
 Glo Lee >>

Harsha: I already had sent Gloria Greco my best wishes in a private e-mail,
but let me again join in with Gloria Lee in expressing thanks for her presence
and important contributions to the list. You are doing beautiful work Gloria
and my best wishes to you. I hope you will come back soon and stay in
touch......Harsha
Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 16:58:56 -0500
From: "Rick Puravs" <ric51ATnospamgeorge.lhi.net>
To: <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: Re: gurus redux
Message-ID: <01bd55dd$b5fe09a0$2621afcfATnospamhp-customer>
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-----Original Message-----
From: Jan Barendrecht <janbarenATnospaminfase.es>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Date: Friday, March 20, 1998 5:54 PM
Subject: Re: gurus redux

....Jan wrote....
>The
>highest possible enlightenment means the end of incarnation - there is no
>more wish to
>reincarnate.
>By becoming an immortal, you contribute the highest possible
>boon to sentient creatures - no more can be done. So I was really very
>surprised to read that Kalu Rinpoche once again reincarnated

Why would it be a greater boon for sentient creatures to not reincarnate, as opposed to coming back in a Bodhisattva role? I am not sure one way or another,
but it would seem that coming back as a Bodhisattva to help others would be a
greater benefit to those still here. What exactly is the boon to sentient beings when
one chooses not to reincarnate?

Rick
Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 16:32:42 -0500
From: Antoine <acarreATnospamconcentric.net>
To: Bob Trevithick <rtrevATnospamredsuspenders.com>
CC: Danijel Turina <sinisa.turinaATnospamzg.tel.hr>, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: street lights and K?
Message-ID: <3515837A.78CDCF5EATnospamconcentric.net>

Bob Trevithick wrote:

> On Sun, 22 Mar 1998 12:17:46 +0100, Danijel Turina
> <sinisa.turinaATnospamzg.tel.hr> wrote:
>
> >So before you go jumping to conclusions about K outbursts, and you begin
> >panicking about something being seriously wrong with you (or telling people
> >"look what I've done! like, wow!":))), look for a bit more grounded
> >explanation, please. :)))
>
> Danijel,
>
> Ah, Occam's Razor comes to the rescue again. :-) You explanation of
> street lights, and their simple light detection systems, makes good
> sense.

Both your remark, Danijel and Bob, make perfect sense to me.

They exist extremes in both ways. But it may not be the light of the car or the
shadow of the person walking, who makes the light go off. It may also be a
synchronicity that as nothing to do with us. Why search for an explanation, why
not just acknowledge the fact and let a clear mind explore the energies. By
looking for an explanation in the paranormal or in the all scientific structure,
you may close your eyes to what simply IS.

Antoine

--
"A new world is born in every moment. The question is, are we present to this
magnificent birth?" Marcus S. Robinson
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 97 08:05:25 GMT
From: E Jason <lobsterATnospamclara.net>
To: kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #212
Message-Id: <970322080525.n0002188.lobsterATnospammail.clara.net>

on 21 Mar 98, Debora A. Orf wrote...

>2. Zen teachers, Gurdiefiian types, hot tempered Tantrics from Buddhism and
>Hinduism abuse their Chelas on a regular divine inspired basis. Why? Because
God
>is Love. Go figure!>>
>
>my zen master never abused me. knocked me off my zafu, but we both ended
>up laughing, it was actually pretty funny.
>
>me thinks ur exaggerating a wee bit....

I do not exaggerate - just placing emphasis. I am glad you had a good laugh. To
illustrate: there is the case of the Zen master who abused and beat one of his
disciples so badly the boy eventually died. The Father of the boy came to the
Zen Master and *apologised* for his son being such a useless disciple that such
strong measures were needed. Zen of this sort in America would not go down so
well :). There would be constant litigation.
I consider Zen one of the genuine fast ways to enlightenment (if you have a
genuine teacher) However there are gentler and more 'loving' Zen teachers. It
all depends if you want a good laugh or not . . .

Most Kind Regards
the exaggerating Lobster
Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 15:01:30 -0700 (MST)
From: Angela Mary Broad <ambroadATnospamacs.ucalgary.ca>
To: Imtgxxx <ImtgxxxATnospamaol.com>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Past Lives
Message-Id: <Pine.A41.3.96.980322145424.86848C-100000ATnospamacs1.acs.ucalgary.ca>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

Hello xxxtg

Thank you for your advice on past life regression and hypnotharapists. I
have one more question, is the person undergoing the regression conscious
of what is happening while it is happening, or does the hypnotharapist
tape the session? I believe it would be the most fascinating if I were
conscious of what was being remembered while it was being remembered, at
that moment in the session. The thing is, I can put myself into altered
states while meditating, chakra work etc but usually no one else can. In
the past this has been friends with some skill, not trained professionals.
I am a very visual person when I'm involved in the visual arts (painting,
drawing etc) and a very auditory person while singing or playing an
instrument :) Same can be said for Kinsithetic. I'm just very! I know I
have been warned by some about getting messed up by the unstable energies
present in psychic fairs. Does anyone here beleive this is a concern?
Heaven and life know that I have had enough encounters with unusual
energies already...;) Thanks so much for your advice. Feeling good and
yes, I do need to take it less seriously and have fun :) I will!

Love and Light,
Angie
Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 16:31:38 -0500
From: amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Personal Genius (Dan)
Message-ID: <1321538198-16403140ATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Dan Margolis wrote:

> Thank you for your questions though, they have helped me focus my
>thoughts.

You are most welcome, that was my intent.

sincerely,
amckeon
(amazed that my intent actually matched my impact)
Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 14:26:26 +0100
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: unsubscribe
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Gloria Greco wrote:
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Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 14:17:09 +0100
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
To: Gloria Lee <samyanaATnospamhotmail.com>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Gloria Greco leaves the list and sends love to all
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Gloria Lee wrote:
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Gloria Greco,
Thanks and I will keep in touch. It is just time for change.
> >
> Dear Gloria,
> Very best wishes with your new foster children, what a blessing it is
> for you to share your home and love in this way. You have always shown
> such a willingness to help others here on the list, too. Please do come
> back.. and let us know what happens with your book, too!!
> Glo Lee
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Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 16:31:25 -0500
From: amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Personal Genius (Thornebush)
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ThorneBush wrote:

>Most of American lifestyles contribute to this feeling. Television yaps at us
>and gives little but noise back. I look at the countires in which I have lived
>and people are less stressed out, like each other more and they don't have
>"busy time" or hours of watching television. Not to mention they value the
>genius that resides in each of themselves. They walk more they converse more
>and I think Americans could learn alot from others and not think that the way
>we do things is the "right" way.

I mentioned my tv watching to back up my claim that I lead an ordinary
life. I was not promoting it as a way towards enlightenment or even a good
idea, much less as the "right" way to lead one's life. Didn't someone
famous once say that 90% of *everything* is crap?

You are of course right in your point about cultures that exist in other
countries having many positive qualities that we Americans seem to lack.
However, they too have their problems. Where are you living now?

Lobster sez "be well,"
amckeon

P.S. It is amazing that the most innocuous things said can be interpreted
as something negative. Let my try this one: "The sun is shining today." I'm
sure *someone* will find this a controversial statement.

P.P.S. See Dan's response.
Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 15:10:14 -0700
From: John Living <jlivingATnospamdirect.ca>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Personal Genius
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Hi

I presume that you mean 'United States of America Nationals' i.e. USANs
instead of Americans; most of the Americans - in south and central America
- do not have the chance to get mashed out on TV.

John

>>Most of American lifestyles contribute to this feeling. Television yaps at us
>>and gives little but noise back. I look at the countires in which I have lived
>>and people are less stressed out, like each other more and they don't have
>>"busy time" or hours of watching television. Not to mention they value the
>>genius that resides in each of themselves. They walk more they converse more
>>and I think Americans could learn alot from others and not think that the way
>>we do things is the "right" way.

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2731 West 11th.Avenue, the more he saw, the less he spoke;
Vancouver, B.C., the less he spoke, the more he heard;
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