1998/03/21 03:57
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #211
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 211
Today's Topics:
Re: Gurus and Professors [ "Jan Barendrecht" <janbarenATnospamcorreo. ]
Re: (Fwd) (Fwd) Re: [ "Jan Barendrecht" <janbarenATnospamcorreo. ]
Re: universal approach [ "Jan Barendrecht" <janbarenATnospamcorreo. ]
RE: Prannothana? [ Kurt Keutzer <keutzerATnospameecs.berkeley ]
AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Cen [ "Robert H. Krueger" <rhk47f2ATnospamwebtv. ]
AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Cen [ "Robert H. Krueger" <rhk47f2ATnospamwebtv. ]
Personal Genius [ Jerry Katz <umbadaATnospamns.sympatico.ca> ]
Re: (Fwd) (Fwd) Re: [ "Robert M. Reidy" <bobreidyATnospammediaon ]
Re: Personal Genius [ Dan Margolis <margolisATnospamtransbay.net ]
Re: HRTZEN: background noise [ MMeyers541 <MMeyers541ATnospamaol.com> ]
Re: Personal Genius [ David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net> ]
Re: Gurus and Professors [ Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iis ]
Re: Discovering the reptile within [ Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iis ]
Re: shit dream [ Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iis ]
Re: Kundalini Re: Kundalini [ Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iis ]
Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 00:10:32 -0000
From: "Jan Barendrecht" <janbarenATnospamcorreo.infase.es>
To: <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: Re: Gurus and Professors
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>From Harsh Luthar <hlutharATnospambryant.edu>
To: Jan Barendrecht <janbarenATnospaminfase.es>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Date: Friday, March 20, 1998 3:07 PM
Subject: Gurus and Professors
>Jan Barendrecht wrote:
>
>> As any professor in Hindu /
>> Buddhist philosophy will outperform a guru, knowledge isn't a good test
>> either.
>>
>> Jan
>
>> Harsha smiles and writes: This is a bit out of context but I was
intrigued by
>> the word, "Outperform?" I do not know how you define a guru! Usually
>> professors and others with book knowledge seek out Realized people to get
the
>> proper interpretation. Concepts no matter how elegant, couched in
language no
>> matter how eloquent cannot reach that State and make absolutely no
impression
>> on the Knower of the Self. The Self is the perpetual spring of peaceful
>> awareness. It does not compete with anything.
>
Obviously, my assumption of "Osho" possessing a professorship in philosophy
to be common knowledge was wrong; this man was rather controversial to say
the least and I was referring to him, because, interestingly enough, there
still are persons claiming to have benefited from him. My definition of a
guru is very simple: someone who can teach in silence. As the majority of
seekers is impressed by a clever use of words / rituals, "Osho" had an easy
job, becoming popular especially among intellectuals. Yet I remain convinced
that the "Osho effect" can be repeated any time - some people never learn.
Jan
Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 00:46:25 -0000
From: "Jan Barendrecht" <janbarenATnospamcorreo.infase.es>
To: <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
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!!!! Relax !!!!
All so called "warnings" about E-mails causing damage etc. are hoaxes. Only
attachments in the form of executable files (.exe or .com) can do harm. If
you think the source of the file is insecure, you should copy the
attachments to hard disk and subject them to a virus scan. Opening an E-mail
is completely HARMLESS.
Jan
Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 03:25:56 -0000
From: "Jan Barendrecht" <janbarenATnospamcorreo.infase.es>
To: <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: Re: universal approach
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Dear Joshua,
In the first place, I always respect morals and ethics - they are the basis
of society. However, the endless debates about "belief" remind me of the
time as a teenager, when my parents were undertaking desperate attempts to
"convert" me. So, it seems to me you are not operating from an active K. but
from the mental faculty called belief. How can you be absolutely sure about
your statements? At first, the most prosperous time (on record) was probably
during Buddhist kingdoms in Asia. No bible needed for well-being and
prosperity. Can you explain this? According to you those people must have
been heathens... According to the law of cause and effect, if there hadn´t
been a bible at all, many vices never would have happened. If you consider
"others" to have doctrines, these "others" do the same, calling your belief
a "doctrine" or maybe a dogma. Isn´t this an ideal starting-scenario for all
out religious warfare? Didn´t we have enough devastation because of it? One
of the side-effects of an active K. is, that you are able to see elements of
truths in many systems, despite (deliberate) attempts to change the meaning.
If the existence of God could be proved beyond doubt, there would be an even
larger amount of dictators, all claiming to have a "red wire to heaven" as
an excuse for all out war and brutality.
During the thirties, in Holland an MD was treating patients from the bad
effects of uric acid. Because at that time a cure was only possible by diet,
the treatment took place in a clinic. It was a well known fact, that when
uric acid flows from the blood into the tissues, one experiences a kind of
religious zeal. This has nothing to do with K.; it is only an emotion to
start praying. When the patients were cured, they were cured from their
religious zeal also. Sources of uric acid are, among others, coffee and
meat. So, if you want an ardent preach, serve the vicar a steak with strong
coffee first :-)) Belief is only a mental phenomenon that can be strongly
influenced by diet or drugs - very contrary to K., functioning independent
of those stimulants. If you conlude from this that a complete conversion
from meat-eater to fruitarian will be the end of Christianity as we know it,
you are very right - there exists a direct connection between physical
purity and mental agility.
Uric acid, among others, clogs capillary bloodvessels.
Now, let us assume you (or any other "believing" person) gets one of those
dreadful diseases - like dementia. This means, you will slowly loose all
your beliefs. It may even happen at times that you utter a cracking curse.
According to your own (now former) belief, you are becoming an unbeliever
and a sinner, ready to enter the gates of hell. If you call this predestined
fate or so, it is the evidence that belief is utterly useless (because you
go to hell although you started as a believer: your words - the price of
sin is death). If you say you go to heaven despite the sins committed as a
diseased person, you prove that sinners will go to heaven and this means,
belief is utterly useless also (because you can go to heaven as a sinner).
QED. There are many more examples like the one above, all proving the very
same.
Jan
>Dear Jan,
>It was the gnostic school in Alexandria, headed by Philo and later Origen,
>which first allegorized everything in the Bible it which didn't suit it's
>doctrine. It is an excuse for calling God a liar.
>
>Gnostics claim that salvation is worked up to (for instance the unfolding
of
>the serpent) and attained with hidden (occult) knowledge. The Bible stands
in
>direct opposition to this stance. Jesus said that he was revealing his
truth
>to babes and the simple, and that you had to be like a child. The Greeks
seek
>after wisdom (outside of God's word), and to them Christ becomes a
>stumblingblock. The foolishness of God is wiser than men.
>
>Biblical salvation is all about GRACE. Not by works, lest any man should
>boast- not by study, meditation, yoga, breathing techniques, or projection.
>The crucifixtion is not seen in the mystery schools like the Rosey Cross,
>Alexandria, Egypt (that of Pathagoras), De Molay, Hiram, Loyola, Theosophy,
>Druidic, etc. It is seen in the baptism of the Holy Ghost. It is repentance
>(death of the old man and his sins as submersion into the water). The
>ascension is also seen in the raising up from the water a new person washed
by
>the blood of perfect, willing, sacrifice. The price of sin is death.
Without
>atonement, there is no fellowship with the perfect God. The phoenix raises
by
>his own strength (the oldest lie in the book- ye shall be as gods), while
in
>the born again experience, Jesus Christ (your new Lord) pulls you up by his
>strength-grace.
>
>PLEASE don't confuse the Bible with Rome. There has never been a more
fierce
>opposition to the Bible than that of Rome. Gnostics weren't the only ones
>burned by Rome. There were also Jews and anyone who believed what the Bible
>said or owned a Bible. Have you not read of the bloody St. Bartholomew's
Day
>massacre? I could give you countless other examples. It was Romes false
>bibles which sent the western world into 1000 years of "dark (no light of
the
>word of God) ages". It was men like Tyndale who gave the common man a true
>Bible and brought the world out of its confusion. Look at what happened to
>the English empire and language after the 1611 publishing of the King James
>Bible. America had it for a long time too. Unfortunately, for the last 100
>years, England, American, and all over the world have been flooded with
false
>(Catholic) bibles. This is the reason for world wars, moral decay, the
break
>down of the family, etc.
>
>You have studied, and your knowledge is unusual. I'm glad, and for this
>reason I make a strong plea to you. Read the truth, it will set you free.
>Free from sin, free from lies that keep you in bondage.
>
>With love and respect,
>Joshua
>
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 20:10:21 -0800
From: Kurt Keutzer <keutzerATnospameecs.berkeley.edu>
To: "'Harsha1MTM'" <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com>,
"anandajyotiATnospamgeocities.com"
<anandajyotiATnospamgeocities.com>,
"joemillerATnospamhotmail.com"
<joemillerATnospamhotmail.com>
Cc: "kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com" <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>,
"stuartfATnospamdimensional.com" <stuartfATnospamdimensional.com>
Subject: RE: Prannothana?
Message-ID: <01BD543C.36C40970.keutzerATnospameecs.berkeley.edu>
I believe praa.notthaana is the correct spelling.
as for usage. I believe I have seen the term in Hatha Yoga literature. I'll try to find a reference if folks are really interested.
Kurt
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Subject: Re: Prannothana?
In a message dated 98-03-20 21:03:38 EST, anandajyotiATnospamgeocities.com writes:
<< Prannothana = Prana + Uthhaana
= Vital Force + Rising
= Raising the vital force. >>
Harsha: This makes sense. Kurt suggested the same thing. However, I do not
recall coming across this term before in any book. A more familiar term to me
in the context of Pranayama is "Udghata" which means awakening of the
Kundalini Shakti.
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 18:06:36 -1000 (HST)
From: "Robert H. Krueger" <rhk47f2ATnospamwebtv.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
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Dear Concetta,
I mistakenly discarded your message. You will always be my first,and I will always be there for you if you need me...? You earned that right. I consider you the fastest woman on the earth, and with my knowelege of K, { as you all chooze to call it,} may people some day look at that as a place of honor. I always will. That hd to be one of the toughest questions ive ever had to answer. Its not easy to strip yourself naked in front of the world and say that these are the basics. Every culture and their religious groups percieve Kundalini and record it in their art in very ingenious ways . the oldest being called mendella. Or that based on a circle. Iradology as its called is expanding the eye from center {pupil} outwardly to show a print of the color pattern contained whithin the eye. mendella art is baced on thesame principal. Th fun part is You get to fill in the pattern and colors yourself.
Kundalini is knowelege.The tree of knowelege, to be more spacific. Its within each and every one of us to explore its branches, However there are two sides to this coin.The reason I started with a good person,is because,{ not only for the process to complete with positive results} If there really such a person out there as a bad preson using this knowelege } and it would appear there is. Commonly refered to good and evil.Knowelege teaches you how to enter that arena to gain more with positive results. Mendella art records these findings. We are born equil in some wonderful ways. I would not trade what I know for all the riches this world has to offer. Keep in touch at fhk47f2ATnospamwebtv.net ps. If you want to speak to me direct. Robert
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 18:09:13 -1000 (HST)
From: "Robert H. Krueger" <rhk47f2ATnospamwebtv.net>
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Dear Concetta,
I mistakenly discarded your message. You will always
be my first,and I will always be there for you if you need
me...? You earned that right. I consider you the fastest
woman on the earth, and with my knowelege of K, { as you
all chooze to call it,} may people some day look at that as
a place of honor. I always will. That hd to be one of the
toughest questions ive ever had to answer. Its not easy to
strip yourself naked in front of the world and say that
these are the basics. Every culture and their religious
groups percieve Kundalini and record it in their art in
very ingenious ways . the oldest being called mendella. Or
that based on a circle. Iradology as its called is
expanding the eye from center {pupil} outwardly to show a
print of the color pattern contained whithin the eye.
mendella art is baced on thesame principal. Th fun part is
You get to fill in the pattern and colors yourself.
Kundalini is knowelege.The tree of knowelege, to be more
spacific. Its within each and every one of us to explore
its branches, However there are two sides to this coin.The
reason I started with a good person,is because,{ not only
for the process to complete with positive results} If there
really such a person out there as a bad preson using this
knowelege } and it would appear there is. Commonly refered
to good and evil.Knowelege teaches you how to enter that
arena to gain more with positive results. Mendella art
records these findings. We are born equil in some wonderful
ways. I would not trade what I know for all the riches this
world has to offer. Keep in touch at fhk47f2ATnospamwebtv.net ps.
If you want to speak to me direct. Robert
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 23:51:20 -0800
From: Jerry Katz <umbadaATnospamns.sympatico.ca>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
CC: PEGLUMPKINATnospamaol.com, keutzerATnospameccs.berkeley.edu, harsha1mtmATnospamaol.com,
rgvgATnospamhotmail.com, acarreATnospamconcentric.net, lobsterATnospamclara.net,
david.bozziATnospamsnet.net, lodpressATnospamintercomm.com, margolisATnospamtransbay.net
Subject: Personal Genius
Message-ID: <35137178.3303ATnospamns.sympatico.ca>
This proposal is prompted by Kurt's interest in brainstorming or
discussing kundalini research ideas and by an observation that the
genius chapter of the kundalini story is not satisfactory as written.
I propose that we use what we have amongst us, many cases of the
development of personal genius.
Personal genius, if I may offer an initial definition, is function at a
greatly heightened level for an individual.
Submitted to the public, personal genius may appear mediocre, average or
excellent, but very rarely is it public genius.
If we accept personal genius as a hallmark of active kundalini and stop
trying to focus on rare cases of public genius, some studies can
actually be conducted.
Anyone want to help shape some of these very broad ideas?
Best,
Jerry
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 23:39:20 -0500
From: "Robert M. Reidy" <bobreidyATnospammediaone.net>
To: Georgia <6751202XATnospamMMU.AC.UK>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: (Fwd) (Fwd) Re:
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I wish that people who say "Microsoft announced..." in this type of
posting would check for themselves with Microsoft before spreading this
kind of thing. The boy who cried wolf, don't you know. Consider how much
useless bog-down net traffic a hoax like this generates. Before you
forward something like this, check with Microsoft!
Thanks.
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 20:58:17 -0800
From: Dan Margolis <margolisATnospamtransbay.net>
To: umbadaATnospamns.sympatico.ca, Kundalini Mailing List <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Personal Genius
Message-ID: <3150E1E8.CFE3593CATnospamtransbay.net>
I'm not sure how you want to categorize personal genius. The only
measurable new manifestation of Kundalini awakening I've had is that my
healing touch has become far more potent. However, I had this touch before
awakening.
I would though suggest a framework for the study of personal genius.
Perhaps a comparison of works done by one person before awakening and after
awakening would be appropriate. This would be easiest to do in fields of
endeavor where a person has noticed a profound difference in their work
before and after and they have those works available. Comparing different
people provides no useful structure because abilities range so widely.
I would also rule out awakenings that happened relatively early in personal
development. People often change dramatically over the course of years when
they are younger than 25-30.
Dan M.
Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 00:29:32 EST
From: MMeyers541 <MMeyers541ATnospamaol.com>
To: sinisa.turinaATnospamzg.tel.hr
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: HRTZEN: background noise
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In a message dated 98-03-02 10:10:13 EST, you write:
<< At 21:52 1998.03.01 -0800, Mary Ezzell wrote:
>Me too on all this. When things are going right, my aura wants to spread
>out wide and ripple. :-) Then people come and step on it. :-(
Hi Folks,
RE: Auras
Was out of town a couple of weeks--lots of misadventures, it was Muphy's Law
the whole time...my aura almost disappeared! Now, back at my computer reading
all the k-email, my entire apt. is glowing in loving, comforting pink & green!
It's great to be back! Michele
P.S. Even though I sent an email to "unsubscribe," THAT didn't happen...so,
knowing me, I'll be up all nite reading 19 days of email. Am NOT complaining,
however---missed EVERYONE's warmth & insights!!
Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 00:35:43 -0500
From: David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net>
To: Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Personal Genius
Message-ID: <351351AF.C270081ATnospammail.snet.net>
Jerry Katz wrote:
> If we accept personal genius as a hallmark of active kundalini and stop
> trying to focus on rare cases of public genius, some studies can
> actually be conducted.
>
> Anyone want to help shape some of these very broad ideas?
The brain is a receiver/transmitter. The receive/transmit dynamic is a
singleprocess. A drop of Intent if you will. A bubble of consciousness.
Someone may intend to tune into the "Chess Channel" of the mind and defeat
the most cunning computer.
Music, art, and Michael Jordan.
Whatever.
There are a vast spectrum of side effects of awakening.
Genius may or may not be one of them depending on how one defines the term.
My view is that the core of kundalini is about developing a relationship
betweenself and Self. Ultimately self dissolves back into Self.
What (or who) are you looking to study?
Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 14:39:38 +0530 (IST)
From: Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iisc.ernet.in>
To: Harsh Luthar <hlutharATnospambryant.edu>
Cc: Jan Barendrecht <janbarenATnospaminfase.es>, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Gurus and Professors
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Hi,
VERY TRUE!!!
love,
anurag
On Fri, 20 Mar 1998, Harsh Luthar wrote:
> Jan Barendrecht wrote:
>
> > As any professor in Hindu /
> > Buddhist philosophy will outperform a guru, knowledge isn't a good test
> > either.
> >
> > Jan
>
> > Harsha smiles and writes: This is a bit out of context but I was intrigued by
> > the word, "Outperform?" I do not know how you define a guru! Usually
> > professors and others with book knowledge seek out Realized people to get the
> > proper interpretation. Concepts no matter how elegant, couched in language no
> > matter how eloquent cannot reach that State and make absolutely no impression
> > on the Knower of the Self. The Self is the perpetual spring of peaceful
> > awareness. It does not compete with anything.
>
>
Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 15:40:29 +0530 (IST)
From: Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iisc.ernet.in>
To: keutzerATnospameecs.berkeley.edu
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Discovering the reptile within
Message-Id: <Pine.SOL.3.93.980321153823.18805B-100000ATnospamBhaskara>
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On Fri, 13 Mar 1998, Kurt Keutzer wrote:
>
> The post regarding African shamanism and kundalini sparked me to pose a
> comment I've been musing about.
> I'm increasing tending to believe that kundalini is not a phenomenon of our
> higher cortical brain faculties but rather the more primitive ``reptilian''
> portions of our brain. So I'm inclined to forget about relationships
> between kundalini and genius.
Anurag> Kundalini shouldn't be the phenomenon of either higher cortical
brain faculties or of more primitive "reptilian" portions of our
brian. Through kundalini energy is fed to every part of body
chakras bieng the main centers of ditribution. Have you practised
Pranayama? During Pranayama itself you will feel that your blocked
paths in head has opened. Once one has control over mind and
one's all nerve paths are opened ina sense that the life force
flows in them then one can turn in to a genius. Awakening of
Kundalini involves body and mind, so it should affect individual
as a whole.
Kalidas became a great poet when his VISUDHA CHAKRA was awakened
by the GURU.
Love,
anurag
Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 15:47:26 +0530 (IST)
From: Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iisc.ernet.in>
To: peswaniATnospamgiaspn01.vsnl.net.in
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: shit dream
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Hi peswani,
I think you should be more careful about your shoes rather
than choosing to walk barefoot.
Dreams sometimes can be true
to an extent that the contents of the dream come out to be
100% true. I think that sometimes when our mental state is
not balanced( our mind is not at peace) other thoughts distort
the dream. That's why I think that people sometimes see weird
things in dream but one can get a main info from dream.
Sometimes dreams not being clear have a hidden meaning which
has to be interpreted.
Love,
anurag
On Mon, 16 Mar 1998, Peswani wrote:
>
> Between January and August of 97, I dreamt atleast between 20 to
> 30 times the following dream. I negelected this dream as i normally
> neglect all my dreams. But after I got to talk to Danijel Turina on this
> list, I
> have suddenly felt the extreme importance of t his dream. Thanks again to
> Danijel.
> The dream was...... that i would be sitting on shit pot at
> different public places. I would be sitting in conference hall
> or in office, in train, in lecture room,
> or in my house with my family members
> or with friends,
> or in any position
> and going through this process of shitting, and behaving normally.
>
> I better give importance to my second dream which has repeated
> atleast 15 to 20 times between august to december 97. This dream is that i
> forget and lose my shoes where ever I go. Not only this but in last six
> months two pairs of my shoes have been actu ally misplaced and lost in
> public places.
> Is this dream suggesting that I walk barefoot in public places.
> Normally I walk barefoot in my house since many years. Indian roads are
> not safe. I can cut my feet or get hurt. And my society and family will
> get worried if i walk barefoot and I will get strange stares from public.
>
> Any suggestions?
> shahanshah
>
> P.S:- Before august 97, i repeatedly dreamt of missing train connections
> at the last moment.
>
>
>
Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 15:44:48 +0530 (IST)
From: Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iisc.ernet.in>
To: shamanicsceneATnospamyahoo.com
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Kundalini Re: Kundalini
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Hi Shamanic,
It will be easier to describe if you can tell what
about Kundalini can be true or what gives you an insight
in to kundalini.
Love,
anurag
On Sun, 15 Mar 1998, Shamanic Scene wrote:
>
>
> Sorry to bother so much but, for starters, what does Kundalini mean
> exactly? I have heard and read at least a dozen descriptions.
>
> SC.
>
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