1998/03/16 22:56
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #201
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 201
Today's Topics:
Re: power of words (long) [ "Orea de Sa' Hana" <oreaATnospamerols.com> ]
Re: The Ascent and Descent of the Sh [ Harsha1MTM <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com> ]
Re: shit dream [ Danijel Turina <sinisa.turinaATnospamzg.te ]
Thank you for the info on African ma [ Tom_I_BradleyATnospamEURO.CCMAIL.compuserv ]
Re: The Lobster Situation [ John Halonen <halonenATnospamflash.net> ]
Re: Re: power of words (long) [ Afperry <AfperryATnospamaol.com> ]
Really Powerful Words [ Chris Hughes <aird.houseATnospamzetnet.co. ]
Re: kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #200 [ "Debora A. Orf" <dorf01ATnospammail.win.or ]
Re: Self love [ pam roberson <pamie59ATnospamyahoo.com> ]
Re: kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #192 [ PEGLUMPKIN <PEGLUMPKINATnospamaol.com> ]
AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Cen [ fatima hynson <fatima_hynsonATnospamlasall ]
Re: SRI AUROBINDO AND DIVINE MOTHER [ Harsha1MTM <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com> (by ]
Re: African magic, juju, witch docto [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistres ]
AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Cen [ Stephen Gornik <SteveThetaATnospamaol.com> ]
AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Cen [ Stephen Gornik <SteveThetaATnospamaol.com> ]
UNSUBSCRIBE TO LIST [ WILL WATERS <wwssATnospammullum.com.au> ]
Re: Some Needed Levity [ Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic ]
Re: shit dream [ Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic ]
Re: universal approach [ Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iis ]
RE: African magic, juju, witch docto [ Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iis ]
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 10:53:03 -0400
From: "Orea de Sa' Hana" <oreaATnospamerols.com>
To: Mary Ezzell <maryATnospamsonic.net>, kl List <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: power of words (long)
Message-ID: <350D3CD1.EB0CA462ATnospamerols.com>
This has been bothering me as well, Mary. It is all too easy (and it strikes
me as simplistic) to say the responsibility is all on the reader/recipient for
perceived emotional content. That's like saying I have no responsibility for
what I write, I can say anything I want and if someone feels hurt by it, well,
that's just their problem. It had nothing to do with me. Who are we kidding
here except ourselves? (IMHO!!!)
The communications exchange isn't all of one thing or another. This email
group runs the gamut from the truly detached, who really aren't hurt by flying
shit, to the truly open types who feel every breeze that blows by, to the
people with "hot buttons" who may overreact to something that was written with
innocent intent because it somehow pokes an old wound, to lots of folks
somewhere in the middle.
We are all in a state of evolving or we wouldn't be here. We are all
imperfect, presumably doing the best we can with what we've got at this point.
So it seems to me you are right, Mary, that care and courtesy in the written
word is an important tool to keep our communications running smoothly.
Nothing, however, will stop the occasional hot button from being pressed.
It is up to each of us to look at our own reactions to see what is what. It
is a good idea, I think, to look at the reactions of others with utmost
charity, thinking, why might they have responded that way? Could they have
misunderstood what was written/what I wrote? Was I too harsh? I have said
things that I later regretted...my response to the circumcision question comes
to mind.
Beyond the words is the energy content of a message. Most are benign, or at
least consistent with the words expressed. Occasionally I have received a
message where the words were "correct" but there was an energy backlash
attached that spoke much louder to me about the writer's true feelings. Those
of you who run a lot of energy need to be aware that you can unknowingly pack
a wallop; please try to be aware what you are actually sending out.
The other issue that has been bothering me is the one regarding the idea, "I
did such and such on purpose to provoke you so you would grow/learn
something-or-other." I find this attitude condescending and presumptuous in
the extreme. There is a time and place for this, but IMHO it is when someone
has chosen you to be their teacher/guide/guru/whatever. I see this forum as a
bunch of students in a study group, each helping the group with the stuff they
know best...no teacher here except the self-appointed. And that is where the
presumption comes in.
Thanks, Mary, for bringing this up. I've been meaning to address this and you
provided me with the opportunity.
My apologies for the length of this post, I'm putting on my hardhat and
preparing for the bricks!
Love to all of you,
Orea
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 12:31:27 EST
From: Harsha1MTM <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com>
To: AfperryATnospamaol.com, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: The Ascent and Descent of the Shakti
Message-ID: <faba38d5.350d61f1ATnospamaol.com>
In a message dated 98-03-16 11:10:16 EST, you write:
<< Dear Harsha,
I think you may mean the 'Umasahasram', rather than Usha........I have an old
copy of 'Adoration of the Divine Mother' by M.P. Pandit of Sri Aurobindo
Ashram which is a selection from the original 1000 stanzas by Ganapati Muni
with Sri Kapili Sastriar's commentary. I must say that it is one of the most
beautiful Shakta texts that I have ever come across!!
With blessings,
Alan >>
Yes. Thank you Dear Alan. I realized my mistake right after I sent the message
and am delighted to be corrected. From what I recollect, Ganapati Muni was
well known at Aurbindo Asharam and was asked to permanently stay there. I
believe Kapili Sastriar was one of Ganapati Muni's original disciple. Ganapati
Muni along with all his disciples became devotees of Ramana Maharshi. Kapili
Sastriar was very close to Ramana Maharshi and later stayed at Aurbindo's
Ashram and had great faith in the Mother. There was much interaction between
the people at Ramanashram and Aurbindo Ashram. Please feel free to correct me
any time you see mistakes on my parts (that should keep you
busy!)............Harsha
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 18:36:31 +0100
From: Danijel Turina <sinisa.turinaATnospamzg.tel.hr>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: shit dream
Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980316183631.009c5630ATnospampop.tel.hr>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Hi Dave! :)
At 07:56 1998.03.16 -0800, you wrote:
>Perhaps you are stuck in your lower Chakras and it is time to move upward.
>Also, maybe your use of the word "shit pot" rather than" toilet seat" is a
>clear indication that some "cleansing" is required at some level.
:)))) LOL :)))))) Again! :)))) I should write some more words that need
cleansing... ;)))) :-X :))) "Shadow on the wall--- tra-ta-raa --- shadow on
the wall..." :)))))) Ain't Mike Oldfield a great guy? :))))))))))) ROTFL
:)))))))
>2nd dream, forgetting your shoes, I don't have any suggestions here, for I
>think it has to do with your customs, which I am not aware of. Perhaps
>Danijel or someone else on the list could give their interpretation.
I'm more into living my dreams than interpreting other's. :)))))))
Take care! :)
-----
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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 12:52:26 -0500
From: Tom_I_BradleyATnospamEURO.CCMAIL.compuserve.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Thank you for the info on African manifestations of kundalin
Message-ID: <199803161256_MC2-36E4-1BCCATnospamcompuserve.com>
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Hi,
This is a quick note (I subscribe to the k-list on my work computer!) to
thank Freda, Drout, Anadnajyoti, Kurt, Peglumpkin, R. Trevithick, amckeon, Ann
Fisher for their replies to my enquiry. I'm going home now, but I'll reply in
more detail tomorrow. The only thing I'd advise Anurag on is to develop a sense
of humour and irony, perhaps. After seeing several "Why do you need to know?"
questions I got the impression that there's a tendency there to be overbearing
as regards list content and to take everything literally. It's not a cool way
to face the world to function only within your own pre-plotted linear path and
to be weak at associative thinking. But anyway, I got the answers I was
interested in.
Thank you,
Tom
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 12:36:00 -0500
From: John Halonen <halonenATnospamflash.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: The Lobster Situation
Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980316123558.0068a930ATnospampop.flash.net>
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>Peace and Love are the real answer. How I wish I was around in the
>sixties. How I wish I was older and wiser.
>
How I wish I was as young as a child......
I was sitting with my 2 and 1/2 year old son, and told him, "look, god is
sitting on you knee" when he looked down I told him, "oops, now he's on
your sholder", he turned his head but didn't see anything, "oh, now he is
in your heart", i said.
He looked at me and smiled. "You're so silly" he says to me.
Then I knew as long as I look for god, I could never find him.
Blessings,
John Halonen
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 13:35:30 EST
From: Afperry <AfperryATnospamaol.com>
To: oreaATnospamerols.com
Cc: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Re: power of words (long)
Message-ID: <3f8f136f.350d70f4ATnospamaol.com>
Dear Orea,
No need for a hardhat, have a kiss instead! I agree wholeheartedly with what
you say. Is not spirituality a process of progressive refinement? Tact,
courtesy and sensitivity are to me important qualities that testify to their
owner's spiritual maturity. Thank you for highlighting the issue.
With blessings,
Alan
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 19:22:37 GMT
From: Chris Hughes <aird.houseATnospamzetnet.co.uk>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Really Powerful Words
Message-ID: <1998031619223784101ATnospamzetnet.co.uk>
Dear Souls
This is a quote from Mahatma Ghandi
There are many faiths, they are all based on common fundamentals.
The soul is one, but there are innumerable bodies, which cannot be
rolled into one. The root of religion is one, like the root of a
tree, but has numerous branches.
The principal faiths of the world consitute revelation of Truth, but
they have been outlined by inperfect men; they have been affected by
imperfections alloyed with untruth. If we are imperfect ourselves,
religion as concieved by us also must be inperfect, the question of
comparitive merit does not arise. Reverence for other faiths need not
blind us to their faults,We must be keenly alive to the defects of
our own faith also, yet not leave it on that account, but try to
overcome those defects.
All obstacles in our path will vanish, if only we observe the golden
rule that we need not be impatient with those we consider to be in
error, but must be prepared, if need be, to suffer in own person. One
must, therfore, entertain the same respect for the religious faiths
of others as one accords to one's own.
"( be that what it may) ie no religion" My own addition
Love all serve all
Chris
Sai Ram
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 14:22:32 -0600 (CST)
From: "Debora A. Orf" <dorf01ATnospammail.win.org>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #200
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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 07:12:16 -0800
From: freda <fredaATnospamblarg.net>
To: Tom_I_BradleyATnospamEURO.CCMAIL.compuserve.com
CC: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: African magic, juju, witch doctors etc
Message-ID: <350D4150.13BDATnospamblarg.net>
<<If we are creating this reality:
I say we take a vote and just admit we are lazy and slow,
and make it simpler for ourselfs- when next we create?
Cut down on the confusion - give everyone goats!!!!!
>>
janpa> Poor goats!
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 15:25:18 -0800 (PST)
From: pam roberson <pamie59ATnospamyahoo.com>
To: E Jason <lobsterATnospamclara.net>, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Self love
Message-ID: <19980316232518.8732.rocketmailATnospamsend1a.yahoomail.com>
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---E Jason <lobsterATnospamclara.net> wrote:
>
> -----Original Message forwarded from -----
> Marion Phillips <phillipsATnospamunbc.ca>
> To: thegardenATnospamworld.std.com <thegardenATnospamworld.std.com>
> Date: Wednesday, March 11, 1998 4:41 PM
> Subject: Re: Self love
>
><<<>Becoming responsible for oneself can be a very scary process.>>>
This is so true. I can remember a very dark time about 15 years ago
when I held everyone else responsible for my pain and for what I
believed to be a miserable existance. I hated life so much that all I
could do was hope for death. I was angry, bitter, and hateful to
others. Afterall, if it weren't for everybody else, my life might be
ok. Wrong.
Yes, some pretty miserable things happened to me during my growing up
years that made me bitter. But now I know that was hardly any excuse
to blame the world for my misery. I went to a psychiatrist and whined
about my pain. I wanted him and his drugs to make me ok. The drugs
caused me more problems along with a dependency. Then I tried to just
die. I tried two different times before I finally wound up being
admitted to a mental institution for observation. During my first
night there, another patient crept into my room, put a pillow over my
face, and then she pressed with such force that I thought I was going
to die. I realized then that I really didn't want to die. Ironic isn't
it?!
>From that point, there was a tremendous amount of prayer and soul
searching for answers to what I would do next, now that death wasn't
an option. I felt alone, scared and like no one in the world cared.
That sparked the realization, finally, for the first time in my life,
that I was responsible for how I felt. I was responsible for me and my
happiness or sadness...no one else. I am so very thankful for that
realization. :)
><< >To know Love one must first be Love. That is to Love oneself
first>>>
Yes, yes, yes.
> >This Love for another is without expectation,>>>
Again, yes. Expectation on all levels is, um, counter productive.
That's the only word I can think of right now. But expecting someone
to love you in a certain way or expecting someone to react in a
certain way or expecting someone to behave in a certain way just isn't
fair. And I believe that it was my expectations of others that made me
so angry and hateful then. My expectations of my father or a friend or
whoever could never possibly have been met, because those expectations
were generated by me. I would then get angry and react in a hateful
way if MY expectations weren't met. But all that hatred and anger
taught me that when someone acts or reacts in such a way, it's
generally because they don't feel good about themselves, and there's a
lot of turmoil and self hatred going on within that person.
<<< The love of self is all encompassing. It doesn't
> >put us in a position of needing to find love outside ourselves.>>>
Amen! Because finding anything outside of yourself doesn't last for
long. It's just something temporary to fill the void. Sure you think
it's gonna last forever, but it never does, because you don't have
enough self realization or self love to help it flourish.
Thanks for sharing Marion's writing. : )
Blessings
Pam
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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 18:33:16 EST
From: PEGLUMPKIN <PEGLUMPKINATnospamaol.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #192
Message-ID: <404ecaef.350db6beATnospamaol.com>
In a message dated 98-03-15 23:11:31 EST, Joe Miller writes:
<< I practice the religion of my Cherokee ancestors but I use the tools I
learned from a few good Hatha teachers, a learned instructor in the
philosophy, and a Kundalini
master I met in north India. >>
I also have Cherokee heritage, but that side of the family somehow became the
most enthusiastic fire-and-brimstone, Bible-thumping, God'll-getcha-for-that
Christians you have ever seen. That side of the family was also where
schizophrenia recurred.
I would be interested to know if there is any Cherokee spiritual component
that would correspond to kundalini. Although several have left the list, I
know there were quite a few people here who have Native American heritage and
many whose families included schizophrenics.
Peg
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 14:06:50 -1000 (HST)
From: fatima hynson <fatima_hynsonATnospamlasalle.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center
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I'll be in Salem, Oregon this Friday, March 20th...is there a Kundalini Yoga Center nearby? If so, what is there Saturday schedule, so I can attend a class. How much is the class? What time? and phone number of the Ashram?
Thank you.
Sat Nam
Fatima
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 17:39:12
From: Harsha1MTM <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: SRI AUROBINDO AND DIVINE MOTHER
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In a message dated 98-03-16 13:52:46 EST, Stevetheta writes:
<< To open thelower vital or subconsicous centers at the beginning is to run
the risk of b eing flooded not only by our own small personal problems , but
the torrents of universal mud; we are automatically in contact with the
confusion and mud of the world. >>
You are right Steve. Sri Chinmoy, who is a disciple of Sri Aurbindo, advocates
working on the heart center first. That is a wonderful and a beautiful path.
But there are other ways as well. Poor Harsha has had to swim in torrents of
universal mud. I have got mud all over me! But its all right. It had to go
somewhere!.............Harsha
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 17:34:52
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: fredaATnospamblarg.net
Cc: Tom_I_BradleyATnospamEURO.CCMAIL.compuserve.com, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: African magic, juju, witch doctors etc
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At 07:12 16/03/98 -0800, freda wrote:
>I asked Sr. Terese her opionion, "Why are there so many religions if
>there is only One God?"
>she answered, "Because there aren't any goats to sacrifice at the North
>Pole"
That is brilliant.
I go on and on with my bandwidth crunching stuff, but the folks who can
explain it so simply and with the humor that sticks in memeory, have my awe
and adoration.
>
>Why does this all have to be so complicated anyway?
Coz that's how we like it, it makes us feel clever to think about
complicated things. Humans have an artistic urge to decorate stuff. We take
a simple moral and write a story around it..
>
>If we are creating this reality:
>I say we take a vote and just admit we are lazy and slow,
>and make it simpler for ourselfs- when next we create?
Yeah, I do that alla time.. life is not meant to be a struggle. Limitless
creativity can find an easier way.. if we let it.
> Cut down on the confusion - give everyone goats!!!!!
>
>heheheh
>freda
>
Well, then you would end up with some folks deciding the goats are sacred
and must be allowed to wander freely, and goats can eat anything. Your
morning paper would not be safe on the streets.. then of course there would
be the wars between the animal rights activists and the freedom of religion
to goat sacrifice fundamentalists, and the other contrary factions that
insist the goats must be Satan, and oh what a mess!!
Blessings, Mystress.
>
>
Mystress Angelique Serpent,
Dominant Experiential Facilitator.
Website= http://www.domin8rex.com/serpent
:D ;) :0 :) ;P :0 ;) :D :0 :) ;P :0 ;) :)
I would rather live in a world where my life is surrounded by mystery
than live in a world so small that my mind could comprehend it.
-- Harry Emerson Fosdick
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Vancouver, B.C., Canada. Officially the most beautiful city in the world.
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 15:18:46 -1000 (HST)
From: Stephen Gornik <SteveThetaATnospamaol.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center
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NAMASTE!
I WILL BE IN PARIS AT THE END OF JULY. I AM LOOKING TO MAKE CONTACT WITH A YOGA CENTER - ESPECIALLY KUNDALINI YOGA.
I WILL BE MEETING WITH A JUNGIAN ANALYST AND WRITER THAT I MET IN PARIS LAST SUMMER. MY DOCTORAL DISSERTION WAS ORIGINALLY ENTITLED: JUNGIAN ARCHETYPAL IMAGES IN THE TRANSFORMATION PROCESS - A VISUAL ARTS PRESENTATION. THIS WAS PRSENTED AT VARIOUS CONFERENCES AND RETREAT CENTERS.
\
IT WAS ACTUALLY BASED ON MY KUNDALINI EXPERIENCES AND ENCOUNTER WITH A COSMIC CONSCIOUSNESS E XPERIENCE. THE FIRST TITLE WAS TO SATISFY THE UNIVERSITY COMMITTEE. IT WAS LATER CHANGED TO: IMAGES OF TRANSFORMATION: THE SOUL'S JOURNEY INTO LIGHT.
I WILL BE THAN TRAVELING TO WARSAW. SOME OF MY ADDICTION WORK IN HOSPITALS IS BEING TRANSLATED INTO POLISH.
IF ANYONE OUT THERE HAS ANY LEADS FOR CONTACT IN THESE TWO CITIES, PLEASE E-MAIL ME.
MERCI BEUCOUPS!
STEPHEN - ETIENNE
I
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 15:19:47 -1000 (HST)
From: Stephen Gornik <SteveThetaATnospamaol.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center
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NAMASTE!
I WILL BE IN PARIS AT THE END OF JULY. I AM LOOKING TO MAKE CONTACT WITH A YOGA CENTER - ESPECIALLY KUNDALINI YOGA.
I WILL BE MEETING WITH A JUNGIAN ANALYST AND WRITER THAT I MET IN PARIS LAST SUMMER. MY DOCTORAL DISSERTION WAS ORIGINALLY ENTITLED: JUNGIAN ARCHETYPAL IMAGES IN THE TRANSFORMATION PROCESS - A VISUAL ARTS PRESENTATION. THIS WAS PRSENTED AT VARIOUS CONFERENCES AND RETREAT CENTERS.
\
IT WAS ACTUALLY BASED ON MY KUNDALINI EXPERIENCES AND ENCOUNTER WITH A COSMIC CONSCIOUSNESS E XPERIENCE. THE FIRST TITLE WAS TO SATISFY THE UNIVERSITY COMMITTEE. IT WAS LATER CHANGED TO: IMAGES OF TRANSFORMATION: THE SOUL'S JOURNEY INTO LIGHT.
I WILL BE THAN TRAVELING TO WARSAW. SOME OF MY ADDICTION WORK IN HOSPITALS IS BEING TRANSLATED INTO POLISH.
IF ANYONE OUT THERE HAS ANY LEADS FOR CONTACT IN THESE TWO CITIES, PLEASE E-MAIL ME.
MERCI BEUCOUPS!
STEPHEN - ETIENNE
I
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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 21:28:07 -0600
From: Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Some Needed Levity
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Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iisc.ernet.in> wrote,
in response to <amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us>'s
"Close-to-complete Ideology and Religion Shit List":
>Hi,
> Divert your thinking to nice words and things and then you will be
> able to describe things in a nicer way.
This shit has happened before.....
Am I a Hindu now?
Love,
Ann
P.S. This is FUNNY, Anurag!
Even God(dess) laughs.
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 21:31:45 -0600
From: Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: shit dream
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Peswani <peswaniATnospamgiaspn01.vsnl.net.in> wrote:
> Between January and August of 97, I dreamt atleast between 20 to
>30 times the following dream. I negelected this dream as i normally
>neglect all my dreams. But after I got to talk to Danijel Turina on this
>list, I
>have suddenly felt the extreme importance of t his dream. Thanks again to
>Danijel.
> The dream was...... that i would be sitting on shit pot at
>different public places. I would be sitting in conference hall
> or in office, in train, in lecture room,
> or in my house with my family members
> or with friends,
> or in any position
> and going through this process of shitting, and behaving normally.
It might help to investigate the various meanings of the word "shit," as we
use it in colloquial speech.
> I better give importance to my second dream which has repeated
>atleast 15 to 20 times between august to december 97. This dream is that i
>forget and lose my shoes where ever I go. Not only this but in last six
>months two pairs of my shoes have been actu ally misplaced and lost in
>public places.
> Is this dream suggesting that I walk barefoot in public places.
>Normally I walk barefoot in my house since many years. Indian roads are
>not safe. I can cut my feet or get hurt. And my society and family will
>get worried if i walk barefoot and I will get strange stares from public.
>
> Any suggestions?
Sometime feet and/or shoes are symbols of "understanding." Got it? under
standing.
>P.S:- Before august 97, i repeatedly dreamt of missing train connections
>at the last moment.
Why did you miss your trains? Maybe you were on the wrong track?
Love,
Ann
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 10:46:00 +0530 (IST)
From: Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iisc.ernet.in>
To: Dave <linnymATnospamnidlink.com>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: universal approach
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Hi Joshua,
Have you tried methods from east.
But the methods of "self-enlightenment" from
> the
> east, are actually self-destructive.
Love,
anurag
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 10:51:45 +0530 (IST)
From: Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iisc.ernet.in>
To: Tom_I_BradleyATnospameuro.ccmail.compuserve.com
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: RE: African magic, juju, witch doctors etc
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Hi Tom,
I will give you the info ,if I am able to get some.
Love,
anurag
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On Mon, 16 Mar 1998 Tom_I_BradleyATnospamEURO.CCMAIL.compuserve.com wrote:
> Hi Anurag,
> Well one reason I need such info is simple curiosity as to whether there is
> any
> similarity between the Indian concept of kundalini, and ideas of spiritual
> energy in
> other cultures. Kurt Keutzer, Druout and other list members have confirmed that
> there are similarities. If kundalini is a basic energy accessible by every
> human being,
> then Kundalini Yoga is one example of an all-embracing theory and set of
> practises.
> However, it exists in a cultural and religious context - which is fine - but if
> the energy
> is universal, then it's worth looking at other cultures' ideas, so we can
> broaden our
> understanding and maybe find some useful exercises. Do you see what I'm getting
> at?
>
> Best wishes,
> Tom
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi,
> Can I know why you need such info? I didn't understand
>
> " correspondences between Indo-European and African spirituality
> and the esoteric or occult"
>
> Love,
> anurag
>
> > Hi All,
> >
> > It's been my observation that apart from an interest in kundalini, list
> > members have broad interests in occultism, spiritual theories and so on. As a
> > child I lived in Africa, and met a genuine witch doctor (i.e. one there not
> jus
> t
> > because of tourists). What would interest me is any info on correspondences
> > between Indo-European and African spirituality and the esoteric or occult.
> Can
>
> > anyone shed light on the subject?
> >
> > Tom
> >
> >
>
>
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