1998/03/11  19:19  
 kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #184 
  
kundalini-l-d Digest				Volume 98 : Issue 184
 
Today's Topics: 
  Argh!"#$%%                            [ Danijel Turina <sinisa.turinaATnospamzg.te ] 
  Re: kundalini chaos?                  [ "Orea de Sa' Hana" <oreaATnospamerols.com> ] 
  Re:Post snipping                      [ onarresATnospaminreach.com ] 
  Re: Argh!"#$%%                        [ "Rick Puravs" <ric51ATnospamgeorge.lhi.net ] 
  Re: Choosing Life                     [ Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iis ] 
  Re: Choosing Life                     [ freda <fredaATnospamblarg.net> ] 
  Re: Choosing Life                     [ DIVELCD <DIVELCDATnospamaol.com> ] 
  Re: Light within                      [ Druout <DruoutATnospamaol.com> ] 
  Choosing Life                         [ anandajyoti <anandajyotiATnospamgeocities. ] 
  Re: HRTZEN: Re: Choosing Life         [ Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.co ] 
  Re: Choosing Life                     [ Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.co ] 
  Re: HRTZEN: Re: Choosing Life         [ Nancy <NancyATnospamwtp.net> ] 
  Re: Choosing Life                     [ Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.co ] 
  Re: Choosing Life                     [ "Dave Hourigan" <linnymATnospamnidlink.com ] 
  Re: HRTZEN: Re: Choosing Life         [ Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.co ] 
Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 00:01:49 +0100 
From: Danijel Turina <sinisa.turinaATnospamzg.tel.hr> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com 
Subject: Argh!"#$%% 
Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980312000149.00926830ATnospampop.tel.hr> 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
 
Is it just my impression or is the list being mail-bombed? ;>> ;)))
 
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E-mail  : sinisa.turinaATnospamzg.tel.hr 
Homepage: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/1377 
Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 18:27:39 -0400 
From: "Orea de Sa' Hana" <oreaATnospamerols.com> 
To: kl List <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com> 
Subject: Re: kundalini chaos? 
Message-ID: <35070FDA.E75D964EATnospamerols.com> 
 
Lovely, Harsha!
 
Blessings,
 
Orea
 
Harsh Luthar wrote: 
>  
> OK. Here goes. Let the Chaos Cool. OM Namo Arihantanam. OM Namo Siddhanam. OM 
> Manglam.OM Shanti, Shanti, Shanti...............May this whole universe prosper 
> that is my cherished desire, may everyone be engaged in each others welfare, may 
> all our defects evaporate, may everyone be healthy, happy, blissful and in 
> peace..........Harsha 
> 
Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 15:25:32 -0800 
From: onarresATnospaminreach.com 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re:Post snipping 
Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19980311152532.006d92c0ATnospammail.inreach.com> 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
 
Dear K People,
 
Here we go again with mega posts, and thinking about all of our members 
that pay for bandwidth - fortunately, I don't, but many do... could we snip 
some of these posts and just leave in the gist of the post to which we are 
responding? I have to scroll down to get the reply... and often they end up 
in the trash. Thanks, so if I have stepped on someone's toes... apologies 
are now sent to you.     
Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 18:24:26 -0500 
From: "Rick Puravs" <ric51ATnospamgeorge.lhi.net> 
To: <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com> 
Subject: Re: Argh!"#$%% 
Message-ID: <01bd4d44$d4f6c960$2421afcfATnospamhp-customer> 
Content-Type: text/plain; 
 charset="iso-8859-1" 
 
Hey, i'm thinking of subscribing one of my AOL screen names on here and 
then having conversations with myself. 
Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 13:22:58 +0530 (IST) 
From: Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iisc.ernet.in> 
To: freda <fredaATnospamblarg.net> 
cc: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>, 
 lodpressATnospamintercomm.com, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, 
 kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com 
Subject: Re: Choosing Life 
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.93.980311131839.23920I-100000ATnospamBhaskara> 
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
 
Hi, 
Can anyone tell me who Lobster is? and what's going on concerning 
him. 
  One thing more one should not use strong or bad words against 
  anyone especially one who is indulged in Kundalini awakening 
  (both sides sayer as well as listener) They acn harm both. 
bye, 
anurag 
       
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Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 15:34:36 -0800 
From: freda <fredaATnospamblarg.net> 
To: lodpressATnospamintercomm.com 
CC: E Jason <lobsterATnospamclara.net>, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, 
 heartzenATnospamlistserv.servtech.com 
Subject: Re: Choosing Life 
Message-ID: <35071F8C.4820ATnospamblarg.net> 
 
hey Gloria, 
I do beleive I am your 40th member on the heartzen list, as of 
yesterday. 
so, having given a little consideration to your words of late, what with 
everything happening for a reason, all for the good, then maybe you 
would like to explain, publicly, why, after my questioning you privately 
about your reasons for posting to your heartzen list without the prior 
knowledge of a klist member........
 
the following was was sent to the klist, myself and lobster. hertzen was 
not listed as a cc address.
 
it was also sent to heartzen, myself without a cc to the klist. 
(and I don't see lobster listed, but he may a subscriber making that a 
bit of a waste) 
 
I wonder, I was recieveing posts from heartzen yesterday and not ONE 
word to your list that what started this was YOUR heart centered 
insinuations that Angelique is killing dear ol' lobster.
 
very! very! selective aren't you about the OPENNESS that you so proclaim 
is good for all.
 
I believe the basis of the words you USE, Gloria, However, it seems you 
are USEing them in a rather than honerable mannor.
 
for the record, I would appriciate your NOT cross posting unless you 
intend to give accurate accounting, at least SOME accounting you REALLY 
left out a biggy here, 
like, YOU and YOUR spirit decided Lobster and Angelique, and any of the 
rest of us needed to DO this.
 
your statement: 
> > Freda, 
> > I didn't take any negativity from your responce, like Ed says it is ok 
> > to be yourself and to be honest. Where would we be if everyone was being 
> > nice when inside they were fuming, that isn't possible with kundalini in 
> > the first place and it isn't real in the second. What is wrong with 
> > being real?
 
yeah gloria, I would like to ask YOU what  IS wrong with being honest?
 
I will be un-subscribing to YOUR list.  
 
......... 
> Subject:  
>             HRTZEN: Re: Choosing Life from k list 
>        Date:  
>             Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:27:55 +0100 
>       From:  
>             Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com> 
> Organization:  
>             light of day press 
>          To:  
>             heartzenATnospamlistserv.servtech.com 
>   References:  
>             1 , 2 , 3 
>  
>  
> Gloria Greco wrote: 
> >  
> > Freda, 
> > I didn't take any negativity from your responce, like Ed says it is ok 
> > to be yourself and to be honest. Where would we be if everyone was being 
> > nice when inside they were fuming, that isn't possible with kundalini in 
> > the first place and it isn't real in the second. What is wrong with 
> > being real? 
> >  
> > My position is we can talk about anything if it comes from love. And, 
> > here on the list we dip into some dark waters....emotions, but in 
> > spirit...I was trying to write spite and spirit came instead, so it is 
> > the appropriate word. Anyway in spirit there is no controlling it and my 
> > total focus is on just staying with what is. No right or wrong, the fact 
> > that you didn't like the question says that you don't want to deal with 
> > what is real here and constantly flows through as undercurrent. I say, 
> > if the undercurrent is there, dive down into it and see what spirit can 
> > do with it. And, because I do this, not from thought but from action, it 
> > does bring things up. I say after all of us knowing each other for quite 
> > a long period of time lets deal with the issues. We are like a family 
> > that everyone lives in different rooms in the house and they use the 
> > phone to call and talk to each other. I say we all live in living 
> > streams of energy, some of these streams flow to great heights and this 
> > very same stream dips down into the lowest regions of creation. But, God 
> > created it all...so why not explore this and be ok with it. Those of you 
> > reading this who are not a part of it, I would suggest one thing, watch 
> > it like your watching a movie, it is not real, it is nothing more then a 
> > group of soul/spirits/in human bodies ....acting out a script. As we do 
> > this you will likely want to get into judgement and pick sides, if you 
> > can instead of doing this...just witness it and let it go. The bottom 
> > line of it is that as we clear it all through the illusion will dissolve 
> > and we will be in a very different place. Ed, Mystress and I are all 
> > quite capable of playing this out without any injuries. 
> >  
> > My back ground is not one of being very worldly, but I have my 
> > experience and with this lets go out on that limb and see how many of us 
> > it will hold.  Gloria 
> >  
> > E Jason wrote: 
> > > 
> > > on 10 Mar 98, fredaATnospamblarg.net wrote... 
> > > 
> > > >Good Evening Angelique, 
> > > >Nice to hear from both yourself and Lobster in these last few days. 
> > > >you write: 
> > > >>  Peace, Freda, and all those who so gallantly rushed to my defense.. 
> > > >> thanyou, but it is not needed. I am not harmed by Gloria's 
> suggestion, it 
> > > >> has occured to me as well, but I don't hold Lobster as a weak 
> creature that 
> > > >> would let email get to him so much... 
> > > > 
> > > >accually, I was rushing to my own defense! and possibly that of others 
> > > >who come here as a means to get away from the crud, the nastiness and 
> > > >the small minded-ness that creeps into personal spaces. It is 
> difficult, 
> > > >to sort real crud from crud-crud sometimes through the racket. GG's 
> > > >goody two shoes heart centered jibberish isn't covering the crud and it 
> > > >P*&*&ed me off. I didn't need it. I didn't come here to decifer that 
> > > >kind of garbage. I was defending my own position. I guess it may have 
> > > >seemed otherwise, but then had such a remark been made about GG I would 
> > > >have been just as bent over it. 
> > > >I was/am annoyed at the question. 
> > > 
> > > Dear Fiend (er . . . sorry . . . Friend) 
> > > The pixies are dancing in the clouds (it is Spring time - well not 
> everywhere) 
> > > I think you have a right to be angry. How dare people say anything that 
> is not 
> > > about Kundalini. Yes! 
> > > Who do they think they are? 
> > > Yes! 
> > > How dare people be human? Who do they think they are? 
> > > Meanwhile . . . 
> > > Who needs spiritual development when they have a fridge? After all 
> sometimes 
> > > food is a comfort and sometimes a demon. 
> > > So dear friends remember, you have a right to be angry. After all its 
> just a 
> > > feeling, an emotion - it can be destructive but hey who cares? 
> > > Who cares? 
> > > The pixies are dancing in the clouds (it is Spring time - well not 
> everywhere) 
> > > And if that seems mad - what of it . . . 
> > > 
> > > Lobster 
> >  
> > -- 
Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 18:42:14 EST 
From: DIVELCD <DIVELCDATnospamaol.com> 
To: anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iisc.ernet.in, fredaATnospamblarg.net 
Cc: mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com, lodpressATnospamintercomm.com, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, 
 kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com 
Subject: Re: Choosing Life 
Message-ID: <e2add91d.35072158ATnospamaol.com> 
 
Good for you!  You are right.  Lets not inflict harm or ill will to anyone on 
this planet.  We are all souls travelling together.  Lets give love and 
receive love.  To quote one of my favorite Beatles songs,  "In the 
end..........................." Lets all keep this alive! 
Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 18:56:49 EST 
From: Druout <DruoutATnospamaol.com> 
To: dorf01ATnospammail.win.org, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: Light within 
Message-ID: <60cafe15.350724c3ATnospamaol.com> 
 
Dear Debora,
 
I've been asking myself this question too--
 
How can I make use of this energy/bliss that is so astounding.  I feel selfish 
in experienclng so much pleasure when there is so much pain out there.    Is 
Healing and Teaching the only uses usually associated with K??
 
Any ideas out there??
 
Or should I mind my own K?
 
Love, Hillary 
Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 16:24:32 -0800 
From: anandajyoti <anandajyotiATnospamgeocities.com> 
To: "'kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com'" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>, 
 "heartzenATnospamlistserv.servtech.com" <heartzenATnospamlistserv.servtech.com> 
Subject: Choosing Life 
Message-ID: <35072B39.1E61078ATnospamgeocities.com> 
 
Dear List Members 
For the past one week or so, I think, I saw the see-saw of messages back 
and forth centered around a few  individuals. 
Let me share my experience, a great lesson I have learned, that when I 
face opposing views, if I react immediately, without reflection, I found 
that most reactions do originate from my ego. The ego does its best to 
protect our personalities. When I connect with this aspect of my 
psyche, I  either choose or inadvertently without consideration, react 
vehemently to support my contention. 
The truth is if I step back and as it is oft times said, sleep on it, I 
can really pinpoint where the reactive expression are coming from. Then 
I go in to my cave and ponder over it and if I do choose to connect with 
my heart, and see the responses coming at me, then I can really see the 
truth behind those , too. 
In short, when we receive opposing viewpoints than our own, and in many 
instances, comes as a personal attack, our animal instincts just sparks 
out in defiance.. But  on the human and spiritual level , if looked 
into, from these angles, I can also say that whatever is coming at me or 
affecting me, is a sign for me to look into deeply and find out the 
truth for myself. 
Many a time, I have received views and comments which may not have been 
conducive/supportive  to my personality, but that itself in no way 
allows me to undermine the other views. Rather it had all given me the 
opportunity to give sincere thought to the other viewpoints and in most 
cases I found, that such viewpoints were purely a reflection of certain 
aspects of myself which I needed to go through at a deeper level and 
make amends for the better. 
In my heart, and many a time  person to person, I open myself in 
thanking them to have given the opportunity to improve my myself from 
what I was. That I consider truly to be 
help from the Almighty also.
 
With Love and blessings of the Infinite to ALL,
 
Anandajyoti 
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/6782 
Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 17:04:45 +0100 
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com> 
To: fredaATnospamblarg.net 
CC: E Jason <lobsterATnospamclara.net>, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, 
 heartzenATnospamlistserv.servtech.com 
Subject: Re: HRTZEN: Re: Choosing Life 
Message-ID: <3506B61B.1E74ATnospamintercomm.com> 
 
freda wrote: 
>  
> hey Gloria, 
> I do beleive I am your 40th member on the heartzen list, as of 
> yesterday. 
> so, having given a little consideration to your words of late, what with 
> everything happening for a reason, all for the good, then maybe you 
> would like to explain, publicly, why, after my questioning you privately 
> about your reasons for posting to your heartzen list without the prior 
> knowledge of a klist member........ 
>  
> the following was was sent to the klist, myself and lobster. hertzen was 
> not listed as a cc address. 
GG 
Ed is on the heartzen list as far as I know.  
>  
> it was also sent to heartzen, myself without a cc to the klist. 
> (and I don't see lobster listed, but he may a subscriber making that a 
> bit of a waste)
 
GG 
I have taken the k list off since people didn't want them mixed. I will 
only send over something from the k list that people would be interested 
in. 
>  
> I wonder, I was recieveing posts from heartzen yesterday and not ONE 
> word to your list that what started this was YOUR heart centered 
> insinuations that Angelique is killing dear ol' lobster.
 
GG 
The heart list knows that this conversation is going on.  
>  
> very! very! selective aren't you about the OPENNESS that you so proclaim 
> is good for all. 
>  
> I believe the basis of the words you USE, Gloria, However, it seems you 
> are USEing them in a rather than honerable mannor. 
>  
> for the record, I would appriciate your NOT cross posting unless you 
> intend to give accurate accounting, at least SOME accounting you REALLY 
> left out a biggy here, 
> like, YOU and YOUR spirit decided Lobster and Angelique, and any of the 
> rest of us needed to DO this.
 
GG 
I think you are a bit confused on this. Quite a few people are on both 
lists. 
>  
> your statement: 
> > > Freda, 
> > > I didn't take any negativity from your responce, like Ed says it is ok 
> > > to be yourself and to be honest. Where would we be if everyone was being 
> > > nice when inside they were fuming, that isn't possible with kundalini in 
> > > the first place and it isn't real in the second. What is wrong with 
> > > being real? 
>  
> yeah gloria, I would like to ask YOU what  IS wrong with being honest? 
>  
> I will be un-subscribing to YOUR list.
 
GG 
That is fine Freda.  
>  
> ......... 
> > Subject: 
> >             HRTZEN: Re: Choosing Life from k list 
> >        Date: 
> >             Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:27:55 +0100 
> >       From: 
> >             Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com> 
> > Organization: 
> >             light of day press 
> >          To: 
> >             heartzenATnospamlistserv.servtech.com 
> >   References: 
> >             1 , 2 , 3 
> > 
> > 
> > Gloria Greco wrote: 
> > > 
> > > Freda, 
> > > I didn't take any negativity from your responce, like Ed says it is ok 
> > > to be yourself and to be honest. Where would we be if everyone was being 
> > > nice when inside they were fuming, that isn't possible with kundalini in 
> > > the first place and it isn't real in the second. What is wrong with 
> > > being real? 
> > > 
> > > My position is we can talk about anything if it comes from love. And, 
> > > here on the list we dip into some dark waters....emotions, but in 
> > > spirit...I was trying to write spite and spirit came instead, so it is 
> > > the appropriate word. Anyway in spirit there is no controlling it and my 
> > > total focus is on just staying with what is. No right or wrong, the fact 
> > > that you didn't like the question says that you don't want to deal with 
> > > what is real here and constantly flows through as undercurrent. I say, 
> > > if the undercurrent is there, dive down into it and see what spirit can 
> > > do with it. And, because I do this, not from thought but from action, it 
> > > does bring things up. I say after all of us knowing each other for quite 
> > > a long period of time lets deal with the issues. We are like a family 
> > > that everyone lives in different rooms in the house and they use the 
> > > phone to call and talk to each other. I say we all live in living 
> > > streams of energy, some of these streams flow to great heights and this 
> > > very same stream dips down into the lowest regions of creation. But, God 
> > > created it all...so why not explore this and be ok with it. Those of you 
> > > reading this who are not a part of it, I would suggest one thing, watch 
> > > it like your watching a movie, it is not real, it is nothing more then a 
> > > group of soul/spirits/in human bodies ....acting out a script. As we do 
> > > this you will likely want to get into judgement and pick sides, if you 
> > > can instead of doing this...just witness it and let it go. The bottom 
> > > line of it is that as we clear it all through the illusion will dissolve 
> > > and we will be in a very different place. Ed, Mystress and I are all 
> > > quite capable of playing this out without any injuries. 
> > > 
> > > My back ground is not one of being very worldly, but I have my 
> > > experience and with this lets go out on that limb and see how many of us 
> > > it will hold.  Gloria 
> > > 
> > > E Jason wrote: 
> > > > 
> > > > on 10 Mar 98, fredaATnospamblarg.net wrote... 
> > > > 
> > > > >Good Evening Angelique, 
> > > > >Nice to hear from both yourself and Lobster in these last few days. 
> > > > >you write: 
> > > > >>  Peace, Freda, and all those who so gallantly rushed to my defense.. 
> > > > >> thanyou, but it is not needed. I am not harmed by Gloria's 
> > suggestion, it 
> > > > >> has occured to me as well, but I don't hold Lobster as a weak 
> > creature that 
> > > > >> would let email get to him so much... 
> > > > > 
> > > > >accually, I was rushing to my own defense! and possibly that of others 
> > > > >who come here as a means to get away from the crud, the nastiness and 
> > > > >the small minded-ness that creeps into personal spaces. It is 
> > difficult, 
> > > > >to sort real crud from crud-crud sometimes through the racket. GG's 
> > > > >goody two shoes heart centered jibberish isn't covering the crud and it 
> > > > >P*&*&ed me off. I didn't need it. I didn't come here to decifer that 
> > > > >kind of garbage. I was defending my own position. I guess it may have 
> > > > >seemed otherwise, but then had such a remark been made about GG I would 
> > > > >have been just as bent over it. 
> > > > >I was/am annoyed at the question. 
> > > > 
> > > > Dear Fiend (er . . . sorry . . . Friend) 
> > > > The pixies are dancing in the clouds (it is Spring time - well not 
> > everywhere) 
> > > > I think you have a right to be angry. How dare people say anything that 
> > is not 
> > > > about Kundalini. Yes! 
> > > > Who do they think they are? 
> > > > Yes! 
> > > > How dare people be human? Who do they think they are? 
> > > > Meanwhile . . . 
> > > > Who needs spiritual development when they have a fridge? After all 
> > sometimes 
> > > > food is a comfort and sometimes a demon. 
> > > > So dear friends remember, you have a right to be angry. After all its 
> > just a 
> > > > feeling, an emotion - it can be destructive but hey who cares? 
> > > > Who cares? 
> > > > The pixies are dancing in the clouds (it is Spring time - well not 
> > everywhere) 
> > > > And if that seems mad - what of it . . . 
> > > > 
> > > > Lobster 
> > > 
> > > --
 
-- 
 
Enter The Silence to Know God ... and... accept life as the teacher.  
Gloria Joy Greco  
 e-mail me at : lodpressATnospamintercomm.com and visit our homepages at: 
http://users.intercomm.com/larryn/ 
&  
http://www.freeyellow.com/members/zg888/ 
Hope you enjoy them! 
Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 17:11:06 +0100 
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com> 
To: Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iisc.ernet.in> 
CC: freda <fredaATnospamblarg.net>, 
 Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>, 
 kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com 
Subject: Re: Choosing Life 
Message-ID: <3506B798.36E1ATnospamintercomm.com> 
 
Ed is a great guy that has been on the k list for probably close to a 
couple of years. He has a homepage that you can ask for, which will give 
you a great deal more on his background. He has a very strong love for 
the Sufi teachings which you will see come up in his communication quite 
a bit. And he is also very aware of kundalini being well into the 
process, as well as metaphysical awareness on cause and effect. 
 
Recently he has faced a health challenge which he has shared with the 
list. It came up because he and I talked about how the emotions really 
effect the Liver. He is in the process of detoxing presently.
 
Even though this seems like a heavy conversation, it isn't to Ed. He 
doesn't have any problem whatsoever walking through this stuff. And 
Mystress the other person here also doesn't have a problem with this. So 
don't be concerned that Ed isn't taking care of what he needs to do, he 
is quite conscious on more then one level. Hope this helps. 
 
By the way...I am Gloria the one that asked the big bad question. G 
Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 18:27:13 -0700 
From: Nancy <NancyATnospamwtp.net> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com 
Subject: Re: HRTZEN: Re: Choosing Life 
Message-ID: <350739ED.982C6B39ATnospamwtp.net> 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" 
 
X-No-Archive: yes
 
Gloria,
 
Must you send so many posts in a day? It's like leaflets being dropped 
from a plane. They go on and on and on.
 
It's also tedius to see so much quoted from the referring post. We all 
could get the point briefer quote snips.
 
Nancy 
Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 17:32:09 +0100 
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com> 
To: anandajyoti <anandajyotiATnospamgeocities.com> 
CC: "'kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com'" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>, 
 "heartzenATnospamlistserv.servtech.com" <heartzenATnospamlistserv.servtech.com> 
Subject: Re: Choosing Life 
Message-ID: <3506BC86.1A24ATnospamintercomm.com> 
 
anandajyoti wrote:
 
GG 
Thank you Anandajyoti, 
I'm sure this will pass with all of us even a little closer then before, 
I know deep down everyone is going to go with what is happening and take 
it as a lesson coming down for whatever reason. God always has a purpose 
for things, even when we don't see it in every second, it is there and 
just as clear as can be. 
 
And I can't help feel we are bringing in differences not just from this 
time but others as well. Whenever people come together with great 
passion and focus, which effects others, it is usually a sign that other 
things are going on beyond what is seen at this level.
 
Since Ed, Mystress and I all work with this, we have to go with it and 
let it pass without attachment to the results. This is where 'thy will 
and not mine really does the work.'  
>  
> Dear List Members 
> For the past one week or so, I think, I saw the see-saw of messages back 
> and forth centered around a few  individuals. 
> Let me share my experience, a great lesson I have learned, that when I 
> face opposing views, if I react immediately, without reflection, I found 
> that most reactions do originate from my ego. The ego does its best to 
> protect our personalities. When I connect with this aspect of my 
> psyche, I  either choose or inadvertently without consideration, react 
> vehemently to support my contention. 
> The truth is if I step back and as it is oft times said, sleep on it, I 
> can really pinpoint where the reactive expression are coming from. Then 
> I go in to my cave and ponder over it and if I do choose to connect with 
> my heart, and see the responses coming at me, then I can really see the 
> truth behind those , too. 
> In short, when we receive opposing viewpoints than our own, and in many 
> instances, comes as a personal attack, our animal instincts just sparks 
> out in defiance.. But  on the human and spiritual level , if looked 
> into, from these angles, I can also say that whatever is coming at me or 
> affecting me, is a sign for me to look into deeply and find out the 
> truth for myself. 
> Many a time, I have received views and comments which may not have been 
> conducive/supportive  to my personality, but that itself in no way 
> allows me to undermine the other views. Rather it had all given me the 
> opportunity to give sincere thought to the other viewpoints and in most 
> cases I found, that such viewpoints were purely a reflection of certain 
> aspects of myself which I needed to go through at a deeper level and 
> make amends for the better. 
> In my heart, and many a time  person to person, I open myself in 
> thanking them to have given the opportunity to improve my myself from 
> what I was. That I consider truly to be 
> help from the Almighty also. 
>  
> With Love and blessings of the Infinite to ALL, 
>  
> Anandajyoti 
> http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/6782
 
-- 
 
Enter The Silence to Know God ... and... accept life as the teacher.  
Gloria Joy Greco  
 e-mail me at : lodpressATnospamintercomm.com and visit our homepages at: 
http://users.intercomm.com/larryn/ 
&  
http://www.freeyellow.com/members/zg888/ 
Hope you enjoy them! 
Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 17:31:52 -0800 
From: "Dave Hourigan" <linnymATnospamnidlink.com> 
To: "DIVELCD" <DIVELCDATnospamaol.com>, <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iisc.ernet.in>, 
 <fredaATnospamblarg.net> 
Cc: <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>, <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>, 
 <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>, <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com> 
Subject: Re: Choosing Life 
Message-ID: <001c01bd4d56$a3d95f20$24459bd0ATnospamlinnym> 
Content-Type: text/plain; 
 charset="iso-8859-1" 
 
>Good for you!  You are right.  Lets not inflict harm or ill will to anyone 
on 
>this planet.  We are all souls travelling together.  Lets give love and 
>receive love.  To quote one of my favorite Beatles songs,  "In the 
>end..........................." Lets all keep this alive!
 
 Yes, Indeed...."The love you take is equal to the love you make"
 
BTW some may realize this: The cover of the "Sgt. Pepper" album has the 
pictures of Babaji, Sri Yukteswar, Lahiri Mahasaya, and Paramahansa 
Yogananda which are the lineage of the Kriya Yoga path, which is a one of 
the fastest paths to accelerate the raising of the kundalini. It's too bad 
the Beatles got caught up in the Maya of all their success. They may have 
helped the whole planet to transmute if it wasn't for their falling out back 
then.
 
Dave 
Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 17:37:43 +0100 
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com> 
To: NancyATnospamwtp.net 
CC: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com 
Subject: Re: HRTZEN: Re: Choosing Life 
Message-ID: <3506BDD3.1476ATnospamintercomm.com> 
 
Nancy wrote:
 
Hi, I think I can take off the bottoms, I have been so focused on the 
conversation that I forgot to cut them. Thanks for reminding me.  
>  
> X-No-Archive: yes 
>  
> Gloria,
 
 
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