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kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #179


kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 179

Today's Topics:
  Re: kundalini chaos? [ freda <fredaATnospamblarg.net> ]
  Hi [ LHodges942 <LHodges942ATnospamaol.com> ]
  RE: experiences [ "Peter Sutphen" <plslalATnospamclassic.msn ]
  Re: Choosing Life with Angelique- Se [ Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.co ]
  Re: Choosing Life [ Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.co ]
  Re: experiences [ Harsha1MTM <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com> ]
  Re: Light within [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistres ]
  Re: Choosing Life [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistres ]
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 14:46:25 -0800
From: freda <fredaATnospamblarg.net>
To: Dave Hourigan <linnymATnospamnidlink.com>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: kundalini chaos?
Message-ID: <3505C2C1.648EATnospamblarg.net>

Hi Dave,
freda here:
Yikes! oh my goodness.
I apoligize for being one of those who have given the wrong impression
here about the klist - don't judge the whole bunch by a couple of
driveling emails, please.
I understand some of what your concern,
I was a newcommer to this list during the Angelique/Lobster thing of
which Gloria has been refering to -
wasn't much more than a schoolyard shout out - with some really big
words!
It is true, email gets emotional sometimes THATS part of why the klist
is so great.
nobody to "wack us up side da head" until its too late, type a little
something in your comphy chair hit -send - too late! whatever moved your
emotional response feels better now - but 200 people know you are acting
like a 3rd grader.
Stick around, it comes and it goes, and in between there's a lot of real
good stuff comming through,
sorry you had to catch us at one of those "moments"

freda
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:59:05 EST
From: LHodges942 <LHodges942ATnospamaol.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Hi
Message-ID: <3f8181e1.3505c5bdATnospamaol.com>

In a message dated 98-03-10 17:00:01 EST, you write:

<< kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
  >>

Hi. I'm new to the list as of today. My name is Leona. I'm on other lists
with other names, but I'll be this name in here :) I joined this list to find
out if what I experienced a while back was what I think it was - namely, the
rising of the Kundalini. I hope to find out from conversations here what
others experience when that happens and what happens afterwards....i.e., are
there different reactions afterwards, does everyone experience the
same....etc...etc.. and how does the Kundalini raise? By itself, someone else
helping, or the person it's in. Just a few of the many questions I have.

Thanks, Leona
Date: Wed, 11 Mar 98 02:03:42 UT
From: "Peter Sutphen" <plslalATnospamclassic.msn.com>
To: "Susan Carlson" <divine_goddessATnospamhotmail.com>, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: RE: experiences
Message-Id: <UPMAIL07.199803110158400092ATnospamclassic.msn.com>

Experiences are neither good nor bad, they just are. When we are identified
with them, that is we have an "I" that experiences "something" we either have
a craving for it or an aversion to it. These are the opposite poles of
attachment and a mark of avidya, or lack of self realization. Attachment is
spontaneous in the condition of ignorance. The mind can not "remove" its very
own attachment! Any attempt is just a mental game. Ramana Maharishi referred
to it as asking the thief that is robbing you to look for the thief that is
robbing you. He certainly will oblige, but not much is going to happen. Just
find a Master, practice their program, relax and enjoy and let go. Soon the
heart opens up bigger than the sky!
-Peter

----------
From: Susan Carlson
Sent: Saturday, March 07, 1998 6:38 PM
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: experiences

Hi!

You wrote:
di Da said, plainly, that there is no difference between
 charging
 through some blue tunnel to the bright light, and having a
 cheeseburger
 at McDonalds. They are experiences. It is devastating, but
 logical, that
 he included consciousness itself in the category of experience.
 
Susan writes:

Only devastating to the logical.

My shaktipat master told me we are only here to have an experience.

Its up to me whether its a 'good' or 'bad' experience.

I find that liberating.

Love,
Susan

 

***************************
'You can believe anything you want.
The universe is not obliged to keep a straight face.'
...Solomon Shert

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Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 18:43:51 +0100
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
To: fredaATnospamblarg.net
CC: Harsha1MTM <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com>, lobsterATnospamclara.net, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Choosing Life with Angelique- Serious Humor
Message-ID: <35057BD6.62EBATnospamintercomm.com>

freda wrote:
>
> > Ed
> > and Mystress had quite a long conversation going for a period of time a
> > few months ago, it finally burned its way out.
> so, good ol' heart centered Gloria.......opens it up again
> with WHAT?
> Angelique is killing lobster.
> very cleaver Gloria

GG
Not hardly, no body can do anything to another, it is each individuals
responsbility to detach and not carry feelings about whatever is coming
down. Ed knows this as does Mystress. If we didn't understand this basic
fact, with over 300 people,everyone would nothing wbe running around in
the victim roll, there are no victims.

 I suggest that this discussion is here to learn how to better deal with
conflicting viewpoints. There are a lot of philosophyical differences
here but when there is a true respect and caring from the people, it
doesn't matter, we over come them. I do believe we have that here, and
because of it, people generally come together with a great deal of love.

> is it just mistress and lobster you wish to drag into this?
> I think not,
> you did not ask lobster in priviate email -hey lobster, is angelique
> killing you? [or is Gloria :)hheheheh]

GG

I think you have got off the subject here and bit, Ed and I are very
good friends, and I do believe that Mystress and I have become quite
fond of each other as well. That is not the point, the point is learning
to detach and observe whatever is happening. For instance, you are
zapping out some feelings here, I can buy into them or I can simply
allow them to slide past me. I choose to let it go and not take it in.
This is what detachment is all about, it is about witnessing whatever is
happening and not projecting into it. Your thoughts are charged with
emotion, this is your way of getting rid of it, so you are projecting
them out at me. That is what we do as humans, however, because I am not
involved in it, it just runs past. I know that you are basically upset,
and confused about all of this and you will continue to fire out until
something happens that takes it away.

The potential in any conversation is to come into it with thoughts and
feelings about any numbers of things, you can say what you wish, that is
your choice, the conversation I have brought up is about understanding
the nature of energies. I wrote a book about this, your right, but it
isn't about getting people to have my book, it is about helping folks to
understand what emotions and thoughts do when it is released with great
feelings and judgment. For instance, your suspicioun about me put out
that I enjoy making trouble and getting people into negative
conversations, this is not true, as a matter of fact, I say we can talk
about anything as long as it comes from love. If this were not the case
many people would choose to leave the list because at times the energy
gets pretty heavy. But, because there is a commitment to work with what
comes through, it generally lifts and people go on as friends. This is
what is possible from really letting go and working as a group to want
the best for each other.

> As I recall, there were, as you say, a few others at the time who had a
> tough time letting their discussion get "pickey"
> are you trying to start something?
> more hits to your site for tapes possibly?
>
> Oh gee, seems this isn't rolling off my back so sweetly.
>
> some nasty-ness just don't roll so good. Babble the hell out of this one
> gloria, I am not buying it
> your "heart" has gotten a wee bit off center hun. And your lack of
> ballanceis comming through loud and clear.

GG
That is what you are feeling this moment, it is ok. Step back and
observe it and see if it doesn't just pass and that it really isn't
worth the time or energy to feed it. I for one don't intend to dwell on
this, if you feel that way about me that is fine, I have no hard
feelings about it one way or the other.

If you really want to look into what Ed has brought up by sharing here
is that he has been shown from within what supressed emotions do, this
didn't happen over night, it had to have been building for some time
most likely over years.

 It wasn't about one or two conversations with this person or that, it
is about deep feelings and emotions being held inside. Some people like
my husband has something happen and he immediatly reacts, he throws out
a huge emotional charge and it is over. This happens a lot on the
highway, it always amazes me, but he doesn't hold it it.

 It isn't always fun to be around that, but he never holds feelings
inside. This is not the norm, most people try not to show what they feel
and hold it in. When this happens over a long period of time it shows up
in an organ, Ed told us that the liver is the organ that takes the hit
from the emotions. I knew this from working with my dear friend Barbara,
by the time she learned how to deal with her emotions the damage had
been done. In Ed's case it has not, he has already become aware and is
in releasing and healing and coming forward to share his experience. I'm
sure what he needs from us is not to be in conflict but to be supportive
of his experience and perhaps bring everyone a little closer and a tiny
bit more aware of how we can monitor how we speak to each other.
Instead of reacting to this in a negative way, we can all reflect and
witness ourselves and see how we deal with emotion. I can tell you that
those who will detach and witness will learn a lot about what is going
on besides the obvious.

--

Enter The Silence to Know God ... and... accept life as the teacher.
Gloria Joy Greco
 e-mail me at : lodpressATnospamintercomm.com and visit our homepages at:
http://users.intercomm.com/larryn/
&
http://www.freeyellow.com/members/zg888/
Hope you enjoy them!
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 18:50:43 +0100
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
To: fredaATnospamblarg.net
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Choosing Life
Message-ID: <35057D72.7C0CATnospamintercomm.com>

freda wrote:
>
> Well Gloria,
> It is a long shot, don't you think [that mistress] is causing lobster to
> be ill? Come on....

No actually I don't think she is causing him to be ill, you have missed
the point entirely.

Print out what I wrote, sleep on it and then read it again. I think when
you stop reacting you might be able to get the point. First breath, pull
back like your watching a movie, and then check out to see if there is
something else being brought down. The point is through bringing in more
awareness and light, perhaps we won't have the same level of conflict,
is that possible?


> Lobster gave as good as he got, I remember the posts. Neither seemed to
> be sending no voodoo,
> Get real. It was discusion,
> If words exchanged between emails could cause such drastic illness then
> many of us would be dropping like flies!
> If Lobster took it hard enough to do that kind of damage to himself then
> surely he, or anyone else who internalizes so intently should not be
> interacting on the list......
> IMHO it is way nuts to single out - as you DID - anyone as causing such
> a thing.
> shame!
> and I don't use the term lightly, inconsiderate, demeaning and just
> plain nasty to send such a thing to the list,
> shame, shame, shame!!!

--

Enter The Silence to Know God ... and... accept life as the teacher.
Gloria Joy Greco
 e-mail me at : lodpressATnospamintercomm.com and visit our homepages at:
http://users.intercomm.com/larryn/
&
http://www.freeyellow.com/members/zg888/
Hope you enjoy them!
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 23:12:36 EST
From: Harsha1MTM <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com>
To: plslalATnospamclassic.msn.com, divine_goddessATnospamhotmail.com,
 kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: experiences
Message-ID: <f2ee610.35060f36ATnospamaol.com>

In a message dated 98-03-10 21:05:03 EST, plslalATnospamclassic.msn.com writes:

Peter wrote: The mind can not "remove" its very
own attachment! Any attempt is just a mental game.

Harsha writes: Probably so. So is any non-attempt!

Peter wrote: Ramana Maharishi referred to it as asking the thief that is
robbing you to look for the thief that is robbing you. He certainly will
oblige, but not much is going to happen.

Harsha writes: In the conversation that you read, Ramana Maharshi was simply
commenting on the fact that all meditation techniques presuppose the retention
of the mind and hence have a built in limitation. Self-Enquiry on the other
hand attempts to find the Source of the Mind and hence is considered the
direct method by the Great Sage. Ramana Maharshi did point out that meditation
and related spiritual practices purify the mind and its capacity to grasp the
Truth and do eventually (althought indirectly) result in Self-Realization.

Peter writes: Just find a Master, practice their program, relax and enjoy and
let go. Soon the heart opens up bigger than the sky!

Harsha writes: Well there are no rules since some people simply fall in love
with a Guru. However, I would recommend first doing some readings, talking to
other spiritual aspirants, and making oneself more knowledgeable about various
traditions, paths and methods. Meeting several teachers without making a
special commitment to anyone is O.K. There are many confused teachers out
there who have been elevated to a high level by their markeing staff and
public relations departments. A truly Realized Sage does not have any capacity
left for distinguishing himself or herself from others by calling people "my
disciples" etc. Such sages are extremely rare. Having common sense and being
rational are always assets even on the spiritual path.
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 18:45:01
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: "Debora A. Orf" <dorf01ATnospammail.win.org>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Light within
Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19980310184501.41270800ATnospamdomin8rex.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

 At 08:55 10/03/98 -0600, Debora A. Orf wrote:
>In a message dated 98-03-09 09:06:24 EST, aird.houseATnospamzetnet.co.uk writes:
>
><< The Guru I visited in India
> touched my forhread
> Love Chris
> Sai Ram >>
>
>What is the significance of this gesture? i know that Lamas do this too,
>when they greet you. This is very interesting that Indian gurus do this
>too.
>Maybe its a guru thing....
>my guess is that its a sort of blessing gesture.
>Curious...
>--janpa
>

  Well, I cannot tell you why they do it, but I can tell you why I do.. it
is usually to give energy to the third eye, for purposes of opening it or
diagnosing it, and their general state of being. I also send energy into
the third eye and out the crown, to open it.
  This is a nice topic for storytelling.. haven't been doing that much,
lately...
  **********
  One of the best things about going to Seattle for my hearing, is I was
finally able to meet a very sweet dude.. a past K-list member, Guru Joe
Flaherty, and his bovine disciples in Buckley, Washington. He came out to
watch the hearing that wasn't and we went to a delightful lunch, after.
  We were talking about Lobsang Rampa. I read all of his books as a kid,
with some skepticism, and as an adult discovered that he was an englishman
who had never actually been to Tibet.. and we were laughing at the scene in
Ghostbusters where they kid Dan Acroyd about attempting to "drill" his
third eye with a real drill, as they talk about in Lobsang's book by that
name. I had even as a child been very skeptical that one needed a hole
drilled in their forehead to open the third eye!
  Joe said that it was an energy drill, not a physical one, and it was
supposed to be very dangerous.
  I smiled mischeviously, and said "oh, really?".
  I gathered up a bit if K-fire of intention in my r. hand, reached across
the table and gently tapped his forehead with my finger. I saw the energy
bolt zip right thru his head, fizzing out at the edge of the back of his
aura, and sat back again to watch the reaction. His eyes widened and a grin
started on his face that kept getting bigger.. when it reached maximum, he
took a deep breath and rewarded me with a heartfelt "thankyou" that turned
my bones to mush and made me giggle.. druid said he saw a light go off in
Joe's head, that expanded outwards in every direction. Good fun..!
  Reading your post, Chris, I had an inpulse to reach out with an energy
finger and tap your forehead in just the same way. There goes my left ear
ringing as my being pulls in the energy to do just that.. OK: reaching thru
time and space, my finger tip is poised above your forehead.. do you want
it yes or no? Say "yes, please, Mystress" out loud to release the zap that
is held in a bubble... thankyou Goddess..

  Hmmm.. interesting..I feel like you won't but others will.. and I am
getting some sensations of stuff clearing from them, flicking out the top
of my head..
    ***************

  The roles of my slaves and I are defined partly by a few rituals. One
requirement I have of them, is that everytime they arrive or depart from my
space, they must go down on one knee and kiss my hand. Even if we meet in
public... in which case they must pretend to be very playfully gallant..
they are not allowed to get up off their knees, till I allow it. they learn
very quickly, the reward for obedience in this, because in private, I will
step forward afterwards and gather their head to my bosom for a hug while
they are kneeling, and allow them the familiarity of putting thier arms
around me. They surrender into their submissive state immediately, with a
sigh of pure love that is indescribably sweet.
  That is what appears to be happening.. but I am also doing work on their
energy body. Wrapping them up in my healing love. When they choose to
ritualize their submission by "deed" and go down on one knee, they
surrender control of their energy to me. My heart chakra flows into their
third eye, out their crown to the heavens, and also down thru all the
chakras into the earth. This is supported by my right hand on their back
sending energy into their spine and downwards, and my left hand on the back
of their head/neck. When the energy comes blasting back up, I do a bit of
"vampire suction" on some of it with heart and left hand to pull the
darkish gunk of normal stressful daily living out of them and send it out
my head up to Goddess. They are now grounded, and I can look into the top
of thier head with my third eye.. see all the way down.. When we are
balanced and unified, and they are very thoroughly grounded, I release them
and look into their eyes and check my results.. how they are feeling...
sometimes I'll keep my hands on their shoulders and speak to them for a
moment, while I do a bit more energy work with them between my hands to
make sure they will not fall down if they stand up... the more deeply they
submit, the more completely the K-fire has room to heal and balance their
state. It is a wonder.
   ****************

   Here is a story I wrote for the "seeking comment" thread, (27/02/98) but
I never posted it, coz I abandoned the rest of the post as being too
cranky.. but this subject of "Light Within", is perfect for sharing this
experience, the wonder of which, still has not left me:

<<< "Out of the mouths of babes." it is often the earlier awakening
experiences, that carry the power and resonance of which art is made. The
further the process continues, the more it tends to be indescribable, and
the more likely one is, not to try.. and it is the attempt, wherein lies
the poignant sweetness.
  Last night I facilitated an amazing ritual for a woman who was reclaiming
her life, for her birthday. Partway thru it, when she was in a deeply
altered state and I was standing in front of her steadying her by holding
hands and keeping her grounded, while my assitants prpared the piercing
equiptment.
  She suddenly fastened her grip onto the base of the ring finger of my
right hand. She demanded to know what it was, the amazing thing she felt
there.. I was a bit puzzled, I could feel only my being, afire with spirit
moving thru me, and her grip like a ring on my finger.. (info from my
unconscious: wedding rings go on the finger connected to the heart chakra)
  I asked her what she felt, she slowly brought my hand up to cover her
left eye and forehead.. I surrendered to the K-fire doing as it will..
letting it move thru me but letting her shape her own experience... then
she described light, and what I believe was the appearance of the blue
pearl.. I was deeply moved by this development, which I had not forseen.
   Her K. awakened only last solstice, when I offered some energy to her
sore back whilst climbing a beach cliff after a ritual... the day after I
recieved Shaktipat from Granma Devi. :) I asked her how the energy felt,
and was very surprised to hear her say it felt like a tingly warmth moving
around in the base of her spine and flickering upwards.... :0 :) It moved
thru her crown before we were done lunch.
   I was impulsed to suggest she ask the blue pearl to stay with her
always, as guiding inspiration. Now that I type this I remember reading
somewhere that it is quality of the first apearance of the blue pearl.. one
may at that time invite it to stay forever. She did.. It did.. We spent
much of the rest of the evening asking it odd questions for practice while
teaching her to scry into it and hear it's wisdom, and helping her get used
to communication by telepathy. We did some energy expansion, and sometime
after that, I told her to ask it how "big" we had gotten, Then laughed at
myself for applying space/time thinking, like, what percentage of the
universe...?? LOL! Then I paused in judging myself to look for the
perfection, first... and suggested she ask anyway, out of curiosity as to
why I had been prompted to ask such a silly question in the first place..
my trust was rewarded..
  It responded: "An infinitisemal percentage of infinity".
  I instantly roared with laughter at the utter perfection of the answer,
and in response to her puzzlement at my reaction, reassured her it was a
real word she had heard spoken in her head and explained to her what
infinitisemal meant, and the joke of the equation it had given us..
because infinity must be by nature indivisible.
  "An infinitisemal percentage of infinity"... that's how big we
get...LOL!! Sooo Beautiful. I'll cherish that one forever. >>>

  Talking about the experince with her afterwards, she said that after the
light appeared and she described it, my identifying it as the Blue Pearl
had hit her with a shock of recognition, although she had never heard of it
before. It at once became smaller, in that it became more sharply defined
in her vision.. but also more wonderful, as it opened for her a great sense
of it's Purpose... which words failed her to define.
  The thread is of lights and forehead touches.. that same evening, before
I asked it that brilliant question, I'd asked her where exactly she felt
the pearl.. and she described it as being above her left eye. I felt that
it needed to be centered.. and gently touched the place on her forehead
where it was, fastened onto it with the intention/impulse that had come to
me when she described it's position, and slowly "dragged" it with my
fingertip to a central position on her forehead, above her third eye. I
took my finger away, and watching her reaction I got a sense that things
were shifting around in her head and settling into new positions, and being
released, as her brain balanced itself.

  I would welcome thoughts on these experiences.. (shrug) I really don't
understand them, I just do what spirit says, in the moment.. I am the
ground crew.
  The post Anandayoti sent about the equation of knowledge and money it a
very cool truism. The more we release what we think we know, the more we
open to new information flowing thru us as we need it from the All.
  Blessings, Mystress.

Mystress Angelique Serpent,
  Dominant Experiential Facilitator.
Website= http://www.domin8rex.com/serpent
      :D ;) :0 :) ;P :0 ;) :D :0 :) ;P :0 ;) :)
   I would rather live in a world where my life is surrounded by mystery
than live in a world so small that my mind could comprehend it.
   -- Harry Emerson Fosdick
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 Vancouver, B.C., Canada. Officially the most beautiful city in the world.
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 18:48:15
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: lodpressATnospamintercomm.com
Cc: fredaATnospamblarg.net, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Choosing Life
Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19980310184815.4127e580ATnospamdomin8rex.com>
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  Oy, what a tempest.. Peace, All...

Lobster wrote:
>> > > > > I am aware of were the problem is and from where it stems.
>> > > > > The process of unravelling will take time.
>> > > > > Ed

   I interpreted this mysterious statement to mean you were disinclined to
disscuss it much further, as you have not yet fully plumbed the meanings
yourself.. I found your post fascinating and resonant, and tho I have not
been posting much of late, I spent much time thinking on it. Guess it's
time to pull it up and respond with my experiences.... which are all about
me me me.. :)
  Welcome back, Dude.. I can feel the shift in your energy.. a new place of
peace, opening. Beautiful. Blessed be. Sad to hear that you are feeling
poorly, but trusting the best will come of it...

>Gloria Greco wrote:
>> > > > Have you supressed emotions, or did this happen in the things that
>> > > > happened with Mystress over the net? Gloria

>> freda wrote:
>> > my god! gloria, are you serious?
>> > freda

  Peace, Freda, and all those who so gallantly rushed to my defense..
thanyou, but it is not needed. I am not harmed by Gloria's suggestion, it
has occured to me as well, but I don't hold Lobster as a weak creature that
would let email get to him so much... tho admittedly, his tactics hit a
nerve with me a few times and I spewed some anger and scratched off some of
my own skin. Perhaps because I recognised, as he has also, that the
intentions behind his attacks were not always ideally clear. Nor sometimes,
were mine. We learned much from each other in this way, it was not always
an easy road.
  Free will Is, and Lobster and I freely chose our alternating roles as
aggressor and victim, because that was our learning curve at the time.
  Just as Gloria has freely chosen to bring up the issue of responsiblity
on the list by lobbing a grenade in my direction.. perhaps knowing it will
have little effect on me, or on her, safe in her cloud of detachment.. but
the blast of it on the subceptible will cause some stuff to come up on the
list to be cleared and resolved.
  (shrug) Gloria and I have lobbed a few good bombs at each other before,
too.. verrry colorfully.. from my view, when the dust settled, we both grew
more tolerance from it.. I stopped christian bashing, and she stopped
blaming everything on Satan like the church lady.. :) Of course, Gloria
likely interpreted the results differently.. :D

  Reminds me of a Doctor Who episode.. his sidekick, Ace, had a fascination
with explosives, and usually carried a few homemade grenades in her
pockets.. this was useful when a large hole needed to be dug quickly.. the
problem was that Ace was inept with timers, and sometimes there was barely
time to duck the blast.
  
  
>At 12:29 10/03/98 +0100, Gloria Greco wrote:
>> Freda,
>><..> She does seem to have the ability to
>> get out of its way. It isn't about right or wrong it is about learning
>> to really let it roll off like water. Nobody is purposely slamming the
>> other but it does happen when emotions and thoughts get together.

   yup.. the bomb itself is only an expression of energy.. we choose to be
victim to the shrapnel, duck it, or let it pass harmlessly thru us. If it
catches on the shrapnel of our own issues on the way thru, we feel it as
hurt, and may react to defend. Sometimes, by manifesting our own grenades
out of our inner shrapnel, and tossing them back. Ideally, after a few
blasts there is no more shrapnel of that kind to make more grenades out of,
and we feel cleansed and refreshed.. if we haven't bled to death from our
wounds in the meantime...
    Blessings, Mystress.

Mystress Angelique Serpent,
  Dominant Experiential Facilitator.
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