1998/03/10  07:32  
 kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #177 
  
kundalini-l-d Digest				Volume 98 : Issue 177
 
Today's Topics: 
  Re: Shakti Kundalini as Guru          [ Harsha1MTM <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com> ] 
  Re: Light within                      [ "Dave Hourigan" <linnymATnospamnidlink.com ] 
  Re: Light within                      [ anandajyoti <anandajyotiATnospamgeocities. ] 
  Send info about your business         [ "Jeff Meredith" <jm5029ATnospamhotmail.com ] 
  Re: Past Lives and Kundalini- Total   [ Angela Mary Broad <ambroadATnospamacs.ucal ] 
  Re: Choosing Life                     [ E Jason <lobsterATnospamclara.net> ] 
  Re: Past Lives and Kundalini- Total   [ Angela Mary Broad <ambroadATnospamacs.ucal ] 
  Re: Past Lives and Kundalini- Total   [ Harsha1MTM <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com> ] 
  Re: Choosing Life                     [ Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.co ] 
  Re: detachment/God's voice            [ "Gloria Lee" <samyanaATnospamhotmail.com> ] 
  Re: Light within                      [ Harsha1MTM <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com> ] 
  Re: Light within                      [ Morgana Wyze <morganaATnospambest.com> ] 
  Re: Light within                      [ Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.co ] 
  Re: Choosing Life                     [ E Jason <lobsterATnospamclara.net> ] 
  Re: Light within                      [ "Sen Ashanka"<sashankaATnospamaismi.ais.it ] 
  AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Cen  [ bill murphy <quest.wmurphyATnospambizonlin ] 
  Bill murphy request for information   [ Chris Hughes <aird.houseATnospamzetnet.co. ] 
Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 09:25:50 EST 
From: Harsha1MTM <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com> 
To: attfieldATnospamtnet.com.au, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: Shakti Kundalini as Guru 
Message-ID: <555fff8c.3503fbf1ATnospamaol.com> 
 
In a message dated 98-03-06 20:48:10 EST, attfieldATnospamtnet.com.au writes:
 
<< "MOTHER WORSHIP is the worship of God as the Divine Mother, as the power of 
the Lord or the Cosmic energy. Shakti, then, is energy. Just as one cannot 
separate heat from fire, so also one cannot separate Shakti from Shakta 
(Shiva). Shakti and Shakta are one. They are inseparable." >>
 
Harsha writes: Worship of the Supreme Female Divinity has its origins in 
actual Superconscious Visions of the Goddess that Yogis have in which Divine 
communion takes place at a subtle and deep level. In my case, even though I 
did not engage in any type of outer worship of the Divine Mother or rituals, I 
started getting such visions very early on in meditations, particularly on 
celestial planes. When I was very young and this things were happening for the 
first time, the presence of the gentle female divinity holding my hand always 
helped to soothe my fears when I was in other realms of existence. Later on 
even after I realized the Pure Principle of  Self-Existent Consciousness 
behind all the names and forms, such visions continued. I was compelled to 
write three poems on the Goddess. They are "The Vision of the Naked Goddess", 
"For the Goddess of Love Supreme" and "An Ode to the Goddess of Compassion 
Tara." In the near future, I hope to make them available on a Website as they 
are inspired by the Goddess of Love Herself, who rises from the Heart that is 
the Ocean of Consciousness, and who has no equal in splendor, beauty and 
compassion. 
Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 07:57:51 -0800 
From: "Dave Hourigan" <linnymATnospamnidlink.com> 
To: <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com> 
Subject: Re: Light within 
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-----Original Message----- 
From: Chris Hughes <aird.houseATnospamzetnet.co.uk> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com> 
Date: Monday, March 09, 1998 6:10 AM 
Subject: Light within
 
>Dear Souls 
>I would appreciate your help. 
>I have been meditating for about a year, at least half an hour to an 
>hour every day and as yet I have no light inside and no visulization 
>ability. I can get light briefly after candle gazing, but essentially 
>all I have internally is black. However I have beautiful feelings 
>descend on me and every time I think of God (A lot of the time) my 
>scalp has an intense itching feeling almost like sunburn. I also 
>somtimes get what sounds like the dawn chorus ( birds singing ) 
>inside my left ear, 
>allways some body sway. Can any one identify with the lack of light 
>and tell me how they overcame this. The Guru I visited in India 
>touched my forhread assured me that Kundalini is rising and that in 
>time the light will appear but I am a little impatient. 
>Love Chris 
>Sai Ram 
>
 
Trouble not Chris,
 
Since we are all many expressions of the "One", we all experience the 
effects of meditation differently. 
You mentioned that you "feel" sensations at times. Well, I would say that is 
a true connection to Spirit. You are most likely of a feeling nature. I 
myself, although at times have had Light visions on occasion, feel more than 
I see.
 
Trust your inner guidance, for you are where you are meant to be.
 
I am a new member of this group, and I think it is wonderful to share and 
learn from others!
 
In Light & Love, 
Dave 
Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 08:54:49 -0800 
From: anandajyoti <anandajyotiATnospamgeocities.com> 
To: Chris Hughes <aird.houseATnospamzetnet.co.uk> 
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: Light within 
Message-ID: <35041ECD.96893B9AATnospamgeocities.com> 
 
Chris Hughes wrote:
 
> Dear Souls 
> I would appreciate your help. 
> I have been meditating for about a year, at least half an hour to an 
> hour every day and as yet I have no light inside and no visulization 
> ability. I can get light briefly after candle gazing, but essentially 
> all I have internally is black. However I have beautiful feelings 
> descend on me and every time I think of God (A lot of the time) my 
> scalp has an intense itching feeling almost like sunburn. I also 
> somtimes get what sounds like the dawn chorus ( birds singing ) 
> inside my left ear, 
> allways some body sway. Can any one identify with the lack of light 
> and tell me how they overcame this. The Guru I visited in India 
> touched my forhread assured me that Kundalini is rising and that in 
> time the light will appear but I am a little impatient. 
> Love Chris 
> Sai Ram
 
 
Hello Chris, 
The responses in your meditation , which you mention, I have and still do 
have these experiences, when my meditation is deep enough. I generally 
happens when my mind becomes totally devoid of any thoughts or the space 
between the two thoughts occur as very long bands. I do not wait for 
these sign/symptoms to happen, nor expect them, they happen when they 
happen and I simply let it be at that. Regarding the visual responses of 
lights etc., it generally happens when the consciousness is in between 
the sixth (third eye) and the crown chakras. But this I think is 
dependent on how deep is the meditation, at least in my case. Sounds 
normally originate at the base, sacral or throat chakras, which is my 
experience. when at the heart center, it is blissful feeling and 
permeates the whole body through vibrations of the shakti, sometimes a 
continuos stream , at other times in packets or bundles. Sounds are of 
various kinds, like cymbals, bird chirping, bells, flute 
etc., which I have experienced in various stages and still do. 
In my opinion, these are responses in the body to let us know that we are 
meditating deeply, and act as encouragements in the path. I don't dwell 
on these sensations though, which I consider as detouring from my primary 
objective, which is attunement with my inner self or the Divine within, 
not philosophically stating it or  verbally affriming it, but actualizing 
it in my own life. 
Hope this helps, 
Anandajyoti 
http://www.geocties.com/Athens/Forum/6782 
Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 09:03:24 PST 
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To: medioevo-betaATnospamwebcom.com 
Subject: Send info about your business 
Message-ID: <19980309170324.3839.qmailATnospamhotmail.com> 
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Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 10:24:53 -0700 (MST) 
From: Angela Mary Broad <ambroadATnospamacs.ucalgary.ca> 
To: Rick Puravs <ric51ATnospamgeorge.lhi.net> 
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com 
Subject: Re: Past Lives and Kundalini- Total Love and the Return from Silence - SHAKTIPAT 
Message-Id: <Pine.A41.3.96.980309102046.57712B-100000ATnospamacs1.acs.ucalgary.ca> 
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
 
Hello
 
this is beautifull  I too know strange attractions and cannott decipher 
them..for they have no meaning in this society at this time.  Crowded and 
cold.                     and I do know 
that joy is always and we live forever so what does one more liftime of 
waiting matter? LOVE EXISTS!!!!!!!!!
 
 -everyone dies but not everyone really lives....  
   (a pilot) 
     SHINE :)
 
(and in the meantime...have fun and learn lots)
 
On Mon, 9 Mar 1998, Rick Puravs wrote:
 
>  
> In the dust of the storm      I see your eyes waiting there 
> In the far fallen halls       lurk around the walls 
> it's all so empty and cold and I don't care you're crazy if you're warm 
> your fingers      your hair     are all flesh before me      in this garden 
> my eyes fog up      and the clouds won't lift      there's only you 
> except for yesterday and tomorrow       there's only me    and I'm not the same 
> never   again or before      never rest      never   never   always never 
> leaning in the doorway     head dangling     no place to fall 
> time to go to work      fall in a heap      lethargy     depression 
> time to go to work    another day without      communication 
> and the traffic flows by in the street      while I am not 
> snug and warm in my nothingness                  becoming 
> I've walked this neighborhood over and over      for a way out 
> and wished I was a Fool      for the illusion of learning 
> and again     I will     give all of myself      for I don't care 
> what you do to me 
> for the illusion of Love 
>  
> 1-22-1979   Rick Puravs       copyright 1979 <g> 
>  
>  
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 97 05:33:26 GMT 
From: E Jason <lobsterATnospamclara.net> 
To: lodpressATnospamintercomm.com 
Cc: kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com> 
Subject: Re: Choosing Life 
Message-Id: <970309053326.n0000319.lobsterATnospammail.clara.net>
 
on 08 Mar 98, lodpressATnospamintercomm.com wrote...
 
>It sounds like Lobster who I know as Ed is in a very good place for 
>transformation. It is all about letting the circumstances work to create 
>this process. And, inner knowing along with surrender work together to 
>reconstruct from the inside out the new birth. Gloria
 
Exactly so. It is important to battle for wellness and wholeness but it is part 
of a process. Lobster do moult occasionaly . . .
 
Ed 
Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 10:35:16 -0700 (MST) 
From: Angela Mary Broad <ambroadATnospamacs.ucalgary.ca> 
To: sassiATnospamworldnet.att.net 
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, NancyATnospamwtp.net, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com 
Subject: Re: Past Lives and Kundalini- Total Love and the Return from Silence - SHAKTIPAT 
Message-Id: <Pine.A41.3.96.980309102939.57712C-100000ATnospamacs1.acs.ucalgary.ca> 
 
So very beautifull I felt one salt crystal tear...I wish you all the luck 
in the whole universe FIND HER!!! Everyone deserves the love of their 
soul mate (Twin S-elf?) GOOD LUCK!!!!!
 
 (I am a billion years old and just 
beginning to exist looking for my soulmate too and I cry we may miss each 
other this life wondering where YOU are I know you're out there somewhere 
with deep eyes that know our soul are you far too trusting and 
enthusiastic like me and musical and 
visionary and entranced by the idea of flight and magic connections and 
LIGHT!!!  
 
I too know the search and the waiting. 
   Shine
 
On Mon, 9 Mar 1998 sassiATnospamworldnet.att.net wrote:
 
>  
>  X-No-Archive: yes 
>  
> I dreamed our story again last night, it comes in clearer it seems, as 
> time goes by; the heartache more poignant.  The memory of your touch 
> fades into the molten gold of your kiss, lifetimes ago. 
>  
> I remember it all sometimes in my dreams, it´s all so clear.  We met, 
> I was already in uniform then, heading to the war.  I remember the 
> scent from the soft curls laying, caressing your cheeks, when we first 
> kissed in that never repeated way, your way.  Do you remember where? 
> The whisper from the silken hose as your thighs brushed against each 
> other when we went to the show.  It´s all there. 
>  
> Remember the picnic on the mountain?  I proposed, you accepted, we 
> joined.  I remember warm tears of joy mixing when we married, the 
> night of our wedding.   
>  
> Do you remember those days we shared before I left?  Those endless 
> days of spring to summer, doing everything, going everywhere, and 
> always your soft smile, the warmth of your touch.  The whisking sound 
> as your hair flares against the pillow´s linen. 
>  
> I died.  One patrol in a mind numbing series of patrols.  A grenade, 
> right there in the boulevard with my buddies.  I was going to toss it 
> but all I managed to do was cover it with my body.  Sorry angel, I 
> really wanted to come home to you but . . . 
>  
> I was reborn.  It was awful.  All I wanted to do was pick up the 
> phone, call you, find you, and all I could handle was flopping about 
> for the longest time.  Then one day, I was about four, and there you 
> were.   
>  
> You were with your kids there in the department store.  I tried to get 
> to you.  But my mother grabbed onto me tight after I called your name. 
>  
> You were busy, gathering your kids to leave.  You went pale.  Your 
> eyes went wide and you looked all around.  For a second I will always 
> remember, your eyes gazed into mine again. 
>  
> Then your husband shepherded you and the kids ( I will always believe 
> they are someway mine) to the car.  Hardly kids, you were dressing 
> them for college graduation, I think.  I was destroyed.  I cried for I 
> don´t know how long, years it seems.  My parents took me to Dr. 
> Redmond , who pronounced colic or something that sounded like that.   
>  
> Years passed, decades, lifetimes.  I came to believe that while we can 
> not be denied our soul mate, for surely you are that to me, there are 
> those who will nourish our souls, prepare us to meet again. 
>  
> I felt your passing, like the morning breeze fades to mid-days 
> stillness.  I grew up, married, raised three wonderful children, now 
> I´m free again.  I will always cherish the gifts my dear wife gave me. 
> I am a better person for having loved her.   
>  
> So here we are.  Will you, my forever love show yourself again?  Or 
> will you, my sweet companion spirit read this and come share the 
> lessons of this existence´s journey with me?  I don´t know. 
>  
> I know I will find you, my fated intended here, or in some other way 
> someday, someday soon I think.  I can´t wait to hear from you, feel 
> your touch, see if it is all as true as my soul whispers to me it is. 
>  
> Jack 
>  
>  
Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 13:14:04 EST 
From: Harsha1MTM <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com> 
To: ambroadATnospamacs.ucalgary.ca, sassiATnospamworldnet.att.net 
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, NancyATnospamwtp.net, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com 
Subject: Re: Past Lives and Kundalini- Total Love and the Return from Silence - SHAKTIP 
Message-ID: <43cba9bc.3504316fATnospamaol.com> 
 
Harsha writes: True story: After a lecture I gave on meditation last year, a 
couple came and both were very anxious to speak to me. They asked many 
questions about reincarnation etc. As I was in a rush, they suggested they 
would call and set up a meeting. I agreed. When they came to my office, they 
explained they were soul mates and had recently found each other by chance. 
They felt they could read each other's thoughts even at a distance. However, 
they were married to other people and that complicated their situation as 
their spouses did not believe in reincarnation. They felt their love was pure 
and true and not sexual etc. I sympathized with them but told them that since 
they are now both married in this life time to others they have to be 
responsible to the other people in their life as well. They understood that 
quite well. They wished to do regression into past lives. I told them that 
after we have understood this life, we can go back in the past lives. When 
this life itself is complex enough, why burden oneself with more information 
from the past, unless it happens spontaneously in meditation. But evidently 
there are many "experts" who claim to teach such things. The couple mentioned 
a few to me. My feeling is that one should be wary. 
   
  
Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 10:27:52 +0100 
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com> 
To: E Jason <lobsterATnospamclara.net> 
CC: kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com> 
Subject: Re: Choosing Life 
Message-ID: <3503B613.2AABATnospamintercomm.com> 
 
E Jason wrote: 
>  from the inside out the new birth. Gloria 
>  
> Exactly so. It is important to battle for wellness and wholeness but it is part 
> of a process. Lobster do moult occasionaly . . . 
>  
> Ed
 
You heard me talk about Barbara, she told me she could feel this tight 
knot in her liver for many years before it manifested as Cancer. She 
said she always had this up tight feeling in her emotions and she also 
knew that at certain times when she suppressed and went along with 
things she knew were not right for her...it became much worse. So when 
we did the work of looking into her records it was very clear how the 
cause and effect worked to manifest the results. What was wonderful is 
that she totally saw it and knew exactly what she had to take from it. 
This is the kind of stuff that is profound soul experience. Gloria
 
-- 
 
Enter The Silence to Know God ... and... accept life as the teacher.  
Gloria Joy Greco  
 e-mail me at : lodpressATnospamintercomm.com and visit our homepages at: 
http://users.intercomm.com/larryn/ 
&  
http://www.freeyellow.com/members/zg888/ 
Hope you enjoy them! 
Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 10:57:45 PST 
From: "Gloria Lee" <samyanaATnospamhotmail.com> 
To: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: detachment/God's voice 
Message-ID: <19980309185746.23922.qmailATnospamhotmail.com> 
Content-Type: text/plain
 
> 
>>Gloria Lee wrote.... 
>> 
>>>Forgive me in advance also..but Rick, would you PULEASE tell me how  
to  
>>>convince my husband that God is speaking thru me?   No delusions 
>now..y'all hear??  
>>>Glo Lee 
<SNIP of wonderful, wise advice from Mystress> 
> 
Dear Mystress, 
  
Well, I WAS just trying to make a joke...but you gifted me with some 
wise advice, so thanks. My husband thinks I'm deluded, tho in a  
charming, harmless way.  He's one of those super scientific, rational, 
mathematicians..tho he also has plumbing and electrical skills. I just  
can't get much respect for my views..not that I ever expected any  
agreement from him.  But then, I have you guys here on the list. :) 
Fortunately, have yet to have many wierd manifestations of K, so I keep  
my own counsel mostly. Obviously, you have some "other things" going  
with your slave..and so do I with mine.. so no complaints were intended,  
really. 
  
Love works..?? no kidding ?? 
Glo Lee 
> 
> 
>  "Vive' le difference."   
<SNIP>
 
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Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 21:42:28 EST 
From: Harsha1MTM <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com> 
To: aird.houseATnospamzetnet.co.uk, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: Light within 
Message-ID: <6258842.3504a897ATnospamaol.com> 
 
In a message dated 98-03-09 09:06:24 EST, aird.houseATnospamzetnet.co.uk writes:
 
<< The Guru I visited in India  
 touched my forhread assured me that Kundalini is rising and that in  
 time the light will appear but I am a little impatient. 
 Love Chris 
 Sai Ram   >>
 
Harsha writes: Chris, you may see lights, but they will always be external to 
you. You are the Light! Be Your Self. Then You will See Your Self. Being is 
the True Seeing.  
Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 21:43:12 -0800 
From: Morgana Wyze <morganaATnospambest.com> 
To: Chris Hughes <aird.houseATnospamzetnet.co.uk> 
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: Light within 
Message-ID: <3504D2F0.16A5ATnospambest.com> 
 
Chris Hughes wrote: 
>  
> Dear Souls 
> I would appreciate your help. 
> I have been meditating for about a year, at least half an hour to an 
> hour every day and as yet I have no light inside and no visulization 
> ability. I can get light briefly after candle gazing, but essentially 
> all I have internally is black. However I have beautiful feelings 
> descend on me and every time I think of God (A lot of the time) my 
> scalp has an intense itching feeling almost like sunburn. I also 
> somtimes get what sounds like the dawn chorus ( birds singing ) 
> inside my left ear, 
> allways some body sway. Can any one identify with the lack of light 
> and tell me how they overcame this. The Guru I visited in India 
> touched my forhread assured me that Kundalini is rising and that in 
> time the light will appear but I am a little impatient. 
> Love Chris 
> Sai Ram
 
Not everyone is visual. Maybe you are oriented to touch and sound. 
Personally, I think I'd rather BE light than see it. :) 
Morgana 
Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 22:04:38 +0100 
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com> 
To: morganaATnospambest.com 
CC: Chris Hughes <aird.houseATnospamzetnet.co.uk>, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: Light within 
Message-ID: <3504595C.300DATnospamintercomm.com> 
 
Chris, 
 Hi, Gloria here.  
 The light comes in only after you are working in the third eye area 
with energy coming in from the seventh chakra and heart center. This is 
a more advanced stage of the process, but you should not be discouraged, 
because every meditation is increasing the frequency of the body. As 
your vibration is higher it is natural that kundalini as intelligence 
will manifest according to where you are in the awakening cycle.  
 When you have the nice, beautiful feelings like you shared, you have 
entered into the increased energies of the heart center.  
 Each chakra has a frequency, color and sound, one day you will find all 
of this awareness coming to you. Remember life is the teacher and we 
bloom where we are planted, so all is perfect. Hope this helps a tiny 
bit. Gloria 
>  
> Chris Hughes wrote: 
> > 
> > Dear Souls 
> > I would appreciate your help. 
> > I have been meditating for about a year, at least half an hour to an 
> > hour every day and as yet I have no light inside and no visulization 
> > ability. I can get light briefly after candle gazing, but essentially 
> > all I have internally is black. However I have beautiful feelings 
> > descend on me and every time I think of God (A lot of the time) my 
> > scalp has an intense itching feeling almost like sunburn. I also 
> > somtimes get what sounds like the dawn chorus ( birds singing ) 
> > inside my left ear, 
> > allways some body sway. Can any one identify with the lack of light 
> > and tell me how they overcame this. The Guru I visited in India 
> > touched my forhread assured me that Kundalini is rising and that in 
> > time the light will appear but I am a little impatient. 
> > Love Chris 
> > Sai Ram 
>  
> Not everyone is visual. Maybe you are oriented to touch and sound. 
> Personally, I think I'd rather BE light than see it. :) 
> Morgana
 
-- 
 
Enter The Silence to Know God ... and... accept life as the teacher.  
Gloria Joy Greco  
 e-mail me at : lodpressATnospamintercomm.com and visit our homepages at: 
http://users.intercomm.com/larryn/ 
&  
http://www.freeyellow.com/members/zg888/ 
Hope you enjoy them! 
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 97 06:33:35 GMT 
From: E Jason <lobsterATnospamclara.net> 
To: lodpressATnospamintercomm.com 
Cc: kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com> 
Subject: Re: Choosing Life 
Message-Id: <970310063335.n0000392.lobsterATnospammail.clara.net>
 
on 09 Mar 98, lodpressATnospamintercomm.com wrote...
 
>You heard me talk about Barbara, she told me she could feel this tight 
>knot in her liver for many years before it manifested as Cancer. She 
>said she always had this up tight feeling in her emotions and she also 
>knew that at certain times when she suppressed and went along with 
>things she knew were not right for her...it became much worse. So when 
>we did the work of looking into her records it was very clear how the 
>cause and effect worked to manifest the results. What was wonderful is 
>that she totally saw it and knew exactly what she had to take from it. 
>This is the kind of stuff that is profound soul experience. Gloria
 
I am aware of were the problem is and from where it stems. The process of 
unravelling will take time.
 
Ed 
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 09:25:58 +0100 
From: "Sen Ashanka"<sashankaATnospamaismi.ais.it> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com 
Subject: Re: Light within 
Message-Id: <C12565C3.002DA90B.00ATnospamais.it> 
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>Dear Souls 
>I would appreciate your help. 
>I have been meditating for about a year, at least half an hour to an 
>hour every day and as yet I have no light inside and no visulization 
>ability. I can get light briefly after candle gazing, but essentially 
>all I have internally is black. However I have beautiful feelings 
>descend on me and every time I think of God (A lot of the time) my 
>scalp has an intense itching feeling almost like sunburn. I also 
>somtimes get what sounds like the dawn chorus ( birds singing ) 
>inside my left ear, 
>allways some body sway. Can any one identify with the lack of light 
>and tell me how they overcame this. The Guru I visited in India 
>touched my forhread assured me that Kundalini is rising and that in 
>time the light will appear but I am a little impatient. 
>Love Chris 
>Sai Ram
 
Dear Sai Ram,
 
You are having a wonderful feeling when you think of God, 
You scalp gets intense itching feeling... 
You hear sounds like the dawn chorus 
You get body sways
 
Great, so you are on the right track. 
Do not be impatient, we are all different and we will experience things 
differently. Do not even think of these things as "progress".
 
When God reveals Himself to you, there will be Infinite manifestations 
and experiences and realisation - Infinite - never-ending - ever new.
 
What you are experiencing may take decades of severe austerities 
by yogis in the Himalayan mountains. So probably you have already 
done a lot of meditation in some past birth and are hence experiencing 
a lot of these feelings within a year's meditation of an hour a day.....
 
Keep at it, but DO NOT get impatient. This itself could be acting 
as a barrier to further experiences.
 
Just fasten your seat belts, relax and watch the Absolute unfold 
before the Self............
 
Cheers and love to all 
Ashanka 
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 03:42:14 -1000 (HST) 
From: bill murphy <quest.wmurphyATnospambizonline.co.uk> 
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I have just been to an introductory talk on kundalini in st.albans herts england but she has classes on tuesday and I can not make tuesdays till after the summer.  Question is there a tutor who does a class in london NW3 or near a tube on days other than tuesday or wednesday? 
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 14:27:58 GMT 
From: Chris Hughes <aird.houseATnospamzetnet.co.uk> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Bill murphy request for information 
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Dear Soul 
 I have found Desmond Winfield 
Hedley House 
St John's Street 
Lechdale, 
Glos 
GL7 3AS 
 tel 01367 253464  
and June Lochart tel 01932 222717 
to be most helpful. 
They represent the Kundalini Foundation for Self -Realisation 
and produce a quarterly news letter. It was through them that my  
Kundalini was awakened and then they arranged for me to go to India  
to see Guruji 
who is God Realised. 
Love Chris 
Sai Ram
 
 
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