1998/03/04 03:59
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #168
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 168
Today's Topics:
brown ceramic heart [ anandajyoti <anandajyotiATnospamgeocities. ]
brown ceramic heart [ anandajyoti <anandajyotiATnospamgeocities. ]
Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 01:14:57 -0800
From: anandajyoti <anandajyotiATnospamgeocities.com>
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Subject: brown ceramic heart
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Re: brown ceramic heart
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References:
1 , 2
tgxxx wrote:
As someone who was on the other side of a broken relationship where our
communications WERE based on fantasy and not truth, I have to speak up.
It is very difficult to distinguish between the two when you are in the
middle of it all. Or at least it was for me.
Anandajyoti>
Yes, you are right in saying so from your perspective. Nothing wrong
there. But in my case I acted from truth. That is why , it was not clear
to me at the time, that the other side had the fantasy going on. And it
could also be true as you say that it is difficult to distinguish
between truth and fantasy.
tgxxx>If it is truly a fantasy, then suddenly upon meeting, you would be
a
stranger.
Anandajyoti> I did not fantasize, but I perceived the other person
communicating at the time,when we met as though I was a stranger. This
was quite hard for me to understand right then and there.
AJ< I sometimes ponder : was >it>just a smoke screen to end the
relationship.
tgxxx> In my case, no it wasn't.
Anandajyoti>Actually, this idea of the smoke screen did not dawn on my
mind till after a month or so. During our short meeting , I did not
perceive anything of the kind.
tgxxx> I totally agree. Again, you may be seeing hidden agendas, but as
I see
it from the other person's point of view, there were no hidden agendas.
Anandajyoti> It could darn well be right as you say, as this idea of
'hidden agenda also surfaced about a month or so later.
tgxxx>I am truly sorry you had to go thru pain and hurt with this
relationship,
and I am glad you finally transcended it.
Anandajyoti> Thank you for your compassion, as I send my love to the
other person daily, even now, though we do not communicate any more.
tgxxx>I have a difficult time understanding why you think they need to
be
forgiven. The person was honest with you. She did the best she could
for what she knew at the time. She didn't do anything wrong. She
merely
misinterpreted truth for fantasy.
Anandajyoti> Yes, for a few weeks, I did think I was wronged, hence the
forgiving part.
Now I also see the other persons view , from your statement above.
Thanks again for showing me the light.
AJ> such experiences also >teach>us a lot what to look for in similar
situations, if they ever arise.
tgxx>I agree totally here.
Anandajyoti> Thanks for showing the light again.
tgxxx>Was it traumatizing because of your expectations?
Anandajyoti> As I look back over it again, it could well be some
expectations on my part.
tgxxx>Because of promises made that were not kept?
Anandajyoti> At the time neither made any promises, except I made a
commitment from my side. There was no commitment from the other side .
SO I cannot in truth say there were any broken promises.
tgxxx > Because of living in the future and not in the moment? I
realize that we are only human and it is very difficult not to have
expectations and to not believe promises made that are based on future
happenings. But that is no reason to blame your expectations and living
in the future on the other person and thinking they are the one
that needs forgiven. There is nothing to forgive on either party. Both
of you did the best you could do at the time for what you knew.
Anandajyoti> Even thinking back over it now , I cannot say that I was
living in the future, but I did have some expectations, to truthfully
state. I am not blaming the other person at all for any of it,. It was
my own doing, due to my expectation, I guess, as I understand it with
more clarity, now.
tgxxx>The entrapment is your own making. And yes it is gone in the
past.
Anandajyoti> The "entrapment" part which I wrote about was for Val on
her comment which I quote below:
"Val> Now I don't know if it is that I am "trapped" here alone , or just
That am healing from being totally traumatized & injured painfully for
life."
In my situation, there was no entrapment of any sort.
tgxxx>This is true. Because of my experience being the one who gave
pain, I
was given another experience recently to see the other side. I observed
the pain I received and saw it was feelings of rejection. I looked at
these feelings, realizing they were based on my own expectations. Love
is blind, so they say. But seeing it from a clearer perspective, I see
there are many things we choose not to listen to while 'being in love'.
We choose not to listen to ourSelf. That is not the other person's
problem. It is my own lesson to learn. When I gave pain to another, I
did not do it willingly or cunningly to hurt them. Again, I didn't
listen to mySelf. I chose to listen to the other person and believe
them. This was true in both cases. And this is not to say to go into
relationships being less trustful, but to go into relationships more
trustful -- the only difference would be to not only trust the other
person, but to trust yourSelf first and formost.
Anandajyoti>
I felt rejected too, various times even after the meeting, whenever I
tried not to burn bridges and trying to keep communication open for
better understanding. But I faced solid walls during those instances. It
could be that other person did not want to keep any communication lines
open and chose to burn the bridges. That is her choice.But that is well
nigh true, her choice and her prerogative., I should not have anything
against that, which I understood after a month and a half. This part of
not understanding and still hoping on my part , as I think it over, was
my mistake or fault , whatever way you may put it. But you know, in my
heart I still love her. May be that is my problem, which I have to work
on.
tgxxx>Did the relationship teach you to be more loving, more trustful,
more
softer? Or did it teach you to be less loving, less trustful, harder?
If the latter is true, then we must search deeper and deeper within
ourSelves to find our Spirit that is pure love and acceptance. Did you
not love deeply and with complete love and faith in this relationship?
This is a wonderful thing to realize that we have this in us to be able
to love as deeply and faithfully as we did. This is a good thing. Not
something to suppress with the next person that comes along.
Anandajyoti> Are you kidding ? Even though this relationship had its
rough edges and very short lived, I still do loveher in truth.. This
relationship has taught me a lot, frankly sharing.
My LOVE, TRUST, and SOFTNESS is increasing ever since, in spite of the
pain I went through. As deep was my pain, in the situation, Deeper has
my sense of Love , Trust and Softness become, during the last two
months. If I were given a choice and an opportunity, I would still want
to have a relationship with her, as we had a lot of things in common
too., and very good open communications. Well, in my case I do not know
if there would ever be another person or not, for that would be thinking
of the future again, and expectations, won't it?
tgxxx>And if we make a mistake again, it is so good to know that we have
a
place within us to turn to, to allow peace and acceptance to come to us
once again, knowing that everything is in perfect and divine order, and
allowing us to see that we nor they did anything wrong. We are here to
find that place, that Spirit who we truly are. To listen to Its wisdom.
We are not here to learn lessons to make us harder and more bitter and
watchful for the next experience, as much as we are here to chip away
our external to find our our Voice that is always talking to us, and to
know that we have a place internally to rest upon in complete peace and
acceptance of all that is.
Anandajyoti> I will definitely cherish these great words of wisdom of
yours. How is it that you have read my own line of thoughts and
experience. Sadly , though, this wisdom was blocked for a while, while
in that relationship. That was my blunder. Could be I was blind at the
time.
tgxxx> The 10 days can be turned into a moment - no need to wait. Peace
is
available to anyone each and every moment if you are willing to look at
the situation differently. When I am out of peace, it is my
responsibility to see it differently. I can choose to prolong it and
grieve accordingly or choose peace. "I can see peace instead of this"
is
a powerful thing to say and shows your own willingness. Again, I have
to
say how wonderful it is to know there is a place within me that I now
have a choice to see peace instead of turmoil. I spent a whole lifetime
not knowing this until the last few years.
Anandajyoti> It is true what you say but .... 10 days..... . The reason
I said this is when we are in the spirit realm, all you said is very
true, but when we are on the earth, we do live in space-time dimension.
I know that in the spirit realm the time dimension does not exist, it is
all simultaneous, the past, the present and the future, what you say
about "NOW"
Thanks again for your illuminating insights.
tgxxx> You say the other party was based on fantasy. What about your
own
fantasies you had? I'm not trying to make light of what you believe was
real to you but not to her because you were the one traumatized. Just
because you were the one with pain doesn't mean your feelings were real
and hers were not. If the love was based on how the other person should
act and be and not in full and total acceptance of what is, this isn't
love. It feels like love and the ego makes us believe it is love, but
it
isn't.
Anandajyoti> The fantasy part of the other person was not told to me
prior or during the relationship,but after the break up. True , I did
have expectations as I have already stated earlier, but I did not have
any fantasy. Truthful, loving responses , yes.. I don't and did not
judge at all, her feelings, I accepted all of her as she was/is, and I
never told her that her feelings were unreal.
I can only speak for myself and say that I had accepted her as she was,
even after meeting her, but I felt after a day , that I was abjectly
rejected, although it was not said by her in words. So, from my side it
was truthfully LOVEand ACCEPTANCE of it all, maybe not of thesituation
at the time. But after a day, I could not speak it out, could be, I was
afraid of a frontal rejection. So, yes a certain fear element came to
me, as I now think it over again. I can still say, from my side, that
my LOVE was not based on ego.
tgxxx> Was what you heard based on promises of the future? If it was,
then it
couldn't be real. We have human feelings so of course our responses to
what is said to us will be recognized. That doesn't make them true. So
how do we distinguish between the real and unreal? Hell if I know. I
can ask myself questions such as, am I responding to the now or feelings
based on future promises? If I felt feelings of love in the now, then
who is to say that is not real? Love is real. Are there any
expectations, any feelings of what the future holds because of this love
I am feeling, attached to the love? If so, that is not real. Have I
placed a commitment to this relationship with the understanding that
commitment is that I will have you forever, and not the commitment to
the
moment?
Anandajyoti> No, no promises were made to me based on the future. It
might well have been my expectations for the future. This moment thing
which you talk about , I guess , I still need to work on. My
understanding in the space -time dimension as I mentioned earlier, what
you speak of the moment, is for the spirit world, where the past , the
present and the future are all present simultaneously. Based on this
philosophical aspect what you say is true, but not while I am still in
the body in a physical realm. I may program myself to think in that way,
but if I go to work and say, everything is in the moment , even in the
physical, I would be shown the door towards a loony asylum.
tgxxx>To empathize doesn't mean to join in suffering. That is the ego's
definition of empathy. To say that truly spiritual people become very
sensitive to the pain of others is unclear to me and seems to make a
space that somehow those that are not so sensitive to the pain of others
and themselves makes them less spiritual. Is this what you are saying?
I would think, and of course from my own unlimited limited thinking,
that
the finer you become, the more accepting you would be of yourSelf,
others
and the situations at hand. And this acceptance would bring about
peace,
instead of suffering.
Suffering is a choice based on fear. When faced with any form of fear,
we should ask for help in healing any separation we may feel between
ourselves and God, or ourselves and others. We need to remember that
fear is a choice, not something that is thrust upon us. Fear is merely
the absence of love and a denial of who we are, a denial that love is
all
around us and acting as if we are alone.
Anandajyoti> The definition you state about empathy is true per the
dictionary.
I consider empathy to be the ability to feel the pain and suffering of
others, not through the ego but through the heart. I consider empathy to
be right brain function rather than the left brain linear thinking
approach.
Regarding the "truly spiritual people" etc. , my mistake----- a comma
after the truly, would have made it clearer. Sorry for that, if I
mislead anyone.
Yes , the finer one becomes, the more accepting he/she would be for
oneself and others and situations.. On the same basis, the pain and
suffering and also the pleasures and bliss are more intensely felt by
those who have that sensitiveness.
Yes, acceptance also brings peace as you say, but it takes time, it does
not follow any mathematical linear formula. It just does not happen
instantaneously in the NOW.
"Suffering is a choice based on fear", I could not agree with this
statement. Philosophically yes, but not in the reality of the three
dimensions. When a mother/.father looses her/his child through death,
would you say that her suffering is her choice through fear, I don't
think so.
This is what I see as reality in the NOW. Even fear is not a choice,
rather, what we can do about it, is the choice. All types of Fear are
not absence of LOVE as you put it, philosophically, nor is it a denial
in all cases and situations.
Well, I appreciate the time you had taken to respond to my post. Most of
your points I do agree, except for a few, which are purely philosophical
and high up in the air and lacks connections to the ground.. That's
just my perspective, but you are entitled to your opinion, I have
nothing against that. I love to stay on the ground as well as touch the
skies, as long as I am in the body.
Concluding I must agree, that I got a lot of illuminating insights from
you for which I thank you immensely from my heart. A good piece of
thought work.
IN LOVE AND LIGHT
Anandajyoti
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/6782
Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 01:18:55 -0800
From: anandajyoti <anandajyotiATnospamgeocities.com>
To: "'kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com'" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
CC: tg langston <tgxxxATnospamjuno.com>
Subject: brown ceramic heart
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Subject:
Re: brown ceramic heart
Resent-Date:
Tue, 3 Mar 1998 09:45:35 -0600
Resent-From:
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Date:
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From:
tgxxxATnospamjuno.com (tg langston)
To:
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References:
1 , 2
tgxxx wrote:
As someone who was on the other side of a broken relationship where our
communications WERE based on fantasy and not truth, I have to speak up.
It is very difficult to distinguish between the two when you are in the
middle of it all. Or at least it was for me.
Anandajyoti>
Yes, you are right in saying so from your perspective. Nothing wrong
there. But in my case I acted from truth. That is why , it was not clear
to me at the time, that the other side had the fantasy going on. And it
could also be true as you say that it is difficult to distinguish
between truth and fantasy.
tgxxx>If it is truly a fantasy, then suddenly upon meeting, you would be
a
stranger.
Anandajyoti> I did not fantasize, but I perceived the other person
communicating at the time,when we met as though I was a stranger. This
was quite hard for me to understand right then and there.
AJ< I sometimes ponder : was >it>just a smoke screen to end the
relationship.
tgxxx> In my case, no it wasn't.
Anandajyoti>Actually, this idea of the smoke screen did not dawn on my
mind till after a month or so. During our short meeting , I did not
perceive anything of the kind.
tgxxx> I totally agree. Again, you may be seeing hidden agendas, but as
I see
it from the other person's point of view, there were no hidden agendas.
Anandajyoti> It could darn well be right as you say, as this idea of
'hidden agenda also surfaced about a month or so later.
tgxxx>I am truly sorry you had to go thru pain and hurt with this
relationship,
and I am glad you finally transcended it.
Anandajyoti> Thank you for your compassion, as I send my love to the
other person daily, even now, though we do not communicate any more.
tgxxx>I have a difficult time understanding why you think they need to
be
forgiven. The person was honest with you. She did the best she could
for what she knew at the time. She didn't do anything wrong. She
merely
misinterpreted truth for fantasy.
Anandajyoti> Yes, for a few weeks, I did think I was wronged, hence the
forgiving part.
Now I also see the other persons view , from your statement above.
Thanks again for showing me the light.
AJ> such experiences also >teach>us a lot what to look for in similar
situations, if they ever arise.
tgxx>I agree totally here.
Anandajyoti> Thanks for showing the light again.
tgxxx>Was it traumatizing because of your expectations?
Anandajyoti> As I look back over it again, it could well be some
expectations on my part.
tgxxx>Because of promises made that were not kept?
Anandajyoti> At the time neither made any promises, except I made a
commitment from my side. There was no commitment from the other side .
SO I cannot in truth say there were any broken promises.
tgxxx > Because of living in the future and not in the moment? I
realize that we are only human and it is very difficult not to have
expectations and to not believe promises made that are based on future
happenings. But that is no reason to blame your expectations and living
in the future on the other person and thinking they are the one
that needs forgiven. There is nothing to forgive on either party. Both
of you did the best you could do at the time for what you knew.
Anandajyoti> Even thinking back over it now , I cannot say that I was
living in the future, but I did have some expectations, to truthfully
state. I am not blaming the other person at all for any of it,. It was
my own doing, due to my expectation, I guess, as I understand it with
more clarity, now.
tgxxx>The entrapment is your own making. And yes it is gone in the
past.
Anandajyoti> The "entrapment" part which I wrote about was for Val on
her comment which I quote below:
"Val> Now I don't know if it is that I am "trapped" here alone , or just
That am healing from being totally traumatized & injured painfully for
life."
In my situation, there was no entrapment of any sort.
tgxxx>This is true. Because of my experience being the one who gave
pain, I
was given another experience recently to see the other side. I observed
the pain I received and saw it was feelings of rejection. I looked at
these feelings, realizing they were based on my own expectations. Love
is blind, so they say. But seeing it from a clearer perspective, I see
there are many things we choose not to listen to while 'being in love'.
We choose not to listen to ourSelf. That is not the other person's
problem. It is my own lesson to learn. When I gave pain to another, I
did not do it willingly or cunningly to hurt them. Again, I didn't
listen to mySelf. I chose to listen to the other person and believe
them. This was true in both cases. And this is not to say to go into
relationships being less trustful, but to go into relationships more
trustful -- the only difference would be to not only trust the other
person, but to trust yourSelf first and formost.
Anandajyoti>
I felt rejected too, various times even after the meeting, whenever I
tried not to burn bridges and trying to keep communication open for
better understanding. But I faced solid walls during those instances. It
could be that other person did not want to keep any communication lines
open and chose to burn the bridges. That is her choice.But that is well
nigh true, her choice and her prerogative., I should not have anything
against that, which I understood after a month and a half. This part of
not understanding and still hoping on my part , as I think it over, was
my mistake or fault , whatever way you may put it. But you know, in my
heart I still love her. May be that is my problem, which I have to work
on.
tgxxx>Did the relationship teach you to be more loving, more trustful,
more
softer? Or did it teach you to be less loving, less trustful, harder?
If the latter is true, then we must search deeper and deeper within
ourSelves to find our Spirit that is pure love and acceptance. Did you
not love deeply and with complete love and faith in this relationship?
This is a wonderful thing to realize that we have this in us to be able
to love as deeply and faithfully as we did. This is a good thing. Not
something to suppress with the next person that comes along.
Anandajyoti> Are you kidding ? Even though this relationship had its
rough edges and very short lived, I still do loveher in truth.. This
relationship has taught me a lot, frankly sharing.
My LOVE, TRUST, and SOFTNESS is increasing ever since, in spite of the
pain I went through. As deep was my pain, in the situation, Deeper has
my sense of Love , Trust and Softness become, during the last two
months. If I were given a choice and an opportunity, I would still want
to have a relationship with her, as we had a lot of things in common
too., and very good open communications. Well, in my case I do not know
if there would ever be another person or not, for that would be thinking
of the future again, and expectations, won't it?
tgxxx>And if we make a mistake again, it is so good to know that we have
a
place within us to turn to, to allow peace and acceptance to come to us
once again, knowing that everything is in perfect and divine order, and
allowing us to see that we nor they did anything wrong. We are here to
find that place, that Spirit who we truly are. To listen to Its wisdom.
We are not here to learn lessons to make us harder and more bitter and
watchful for the next experience, as much as we are here to chip away
our external to find our our Voice that is always talking to us, and to
know that we have a place internally to rest upon in complete peace and
acceptance of all that is.
Anandajyoti> I will definitely cherish these great words of wisdom of
yours. How is it that you have read my own line of thoughts and
experience. Sadly , though, this wisdom was blocked for a while, while
in that relationship. That was my blunder. Could be I was blind at the
time.
tgxxx> The 10 days can be turned into a moment - no need to wait. Peace
is
available to anyone each and every moment if you are willing to look at
the situation differently. When I am out of peace, it is my
responsibility to see it differently. I can choose to prolong it and
grieve accordingly or choose peace. "I can see peace instead of this"
is
a powerful thing to say and shows your own willingness. Again, I have
to
say how wonderful it is to know there is a place within me that I now
have a choice to see peace instead of turmoil. I spent a whole lifetime
not knowing this until the last few years.
Anandajyoti> It is true what you say but .... 10 days..... . The reason
I said this is when we are in the spirit realm, all you said is very
true, but when we are on the earth, we do live in space-time dimension.
I know that in the spirit realm the time dimension does not exist, it is
all simultaneous, the past, the present and the future, what you say
about "NOW"
Thanks again for your illuminating insights.
tgxxx> You say the other party was based on fantasy. What about your
own
fantasies you had? I'm not trying to make light of what you believe was
real to you but not to her because you were the one traumatized. Just
because you were the one with pain doesn't mean your feelings were real
and hers were not. If the love was based on how the other person should
act and be and not in full and total acceptance of what is, this isn't
love. It feels like love and the ego makes us believe it is love, but
it
isn't.
Anandajyoti> The fantasy part of the other person was not told to me
prior or during the relationship,but after the break up. True , I did
have expectations as I have already stated earlier, but I did not have
any fantasy. Truthful, loving responses , yes.. I don't and did not
judge at all, her feelings, I accepted all of her as she was/is, and I
never told her that her feelings were unreal.
I can only speak for myself and say that I had accepted her as she was,
even after meeting her, but I felt after a day , that I was abjectly
rejected, although it was not said by her in words. So, from my side it
was truthfully LOVEand ACCEPTANCE of it all, maybe not of thesituation
at the time. But after a day, I could not speak it out, could be, I was
afraid of a frontal rejection. So, yes a certain fear element came to
me, as I now think it over again. I can still say, from my side, that
my LOVE was not based on ego.
tgxxx> Was what you heard based on promises of the future? If it was,
then it
couldn't be real. We have human feelings so of course our responses to
what is said to us will be recognized. That doesn't make them true. So
how do we distinguish between the real and unreal? Hell if I know. I
can ask myself questions such as, am I responding to the now or feelings
based on future promises? If I felt feelings of love in the now, then
who is to say that is not real? Love is real. Are there any
expectations, any feelings of what the future holds because of this love
I am feeling, attached to the love? If so, that is not real. Have I
placed a commitment to this relationship with the understanding that
commitment is that I will have you forever, and not the commitment to
the
moment?
Anandajyoti> No, no promises were made to me based on the future. It
might well have been my expectations for the future. This moment thing
which you talk about , I guess , I still need to work on. My
understanding in the space -time dimension as I mentioned earlier, what
you speak of the moment, is for the spirit world, where the past , the
present and the future are all present simultaneously. Based on this
philosophical aspect what you say is true, but not while I am still in
the body in a physical realm. I may program myself to think in that way,
but if I go to work and say, everything is in the moment , even in the
physical, I would be shown the door towards a loony asylum.
tgxxx>To empathize doesn't mean to join in suffering. That is the ego's
definition of empathy. To say that truly spiritual people become very
sensitive to the pain of others is unclear to me and seems to make a
space that somehow those that are not so sensitive to the pain of others
and themselves makes them less spiritual. Is this what you are saying?
I would think, and of course from my own unlimited limited thinking,
that
the finer you become, the more accepting you would be of yourSelf,
others
and the situations at hand. And this acceptance would bring about
peace,
instead of suffering.
Suffering is a choice based on fear. When faced with any form of fear,
we should ask for help in healing any separation we may feel between
ourselves and God, or ourselves and others. We need to remember that
fear is a choice, not something that is thrust upon us. Fear is merely
the absence of love and a denial of who we are, a denial that love is
all
around us and acting as if we are alone.
Anandajyoti> The definition you state about empathy is true per the
dictionary.
I consider empathy to be the ability to feel the pain and suffering of
others, not through the ego but through the heart. I consider empathy to
be right brain function rather than the left brain linear thinking
approach.
Regarding the "truly spiritual people" etc. , my mistake----- a comma
after the truly, would have made it clearer. Sorry for that, if I
mislead anyone.
Yes , the finer one becomes, the more accepting he/she would be for
oneself and others and situations.. On the same basis, the pain and
suffering and also the pleasures and bliss are more intensely felt by
those who have that sensitiveness.
Yes, acceptance also brings peace as you say, but it takes time, it does
not follow any mathematical linear formula. It just does not happen
instantaneously in the NOW.
"Suffering is a choice based on fear", I could not agree with this
statement. Philosophically yes, but not in the reality of the three
dimensions. When a mother/.father looses her/his child through death,
would you say that her suffering is her choice through fear, I don't
think so.
This is what I see as reality in the NOW. Even fear is not a choice,
rather, what we can do about it, is the choice. All types of Fear are
not absence of LOVE as you put it, philosophically, nor is it a denial
in all cases and situations.
Well, I appreciate the time you had taken to respond to my post. Most of
your points I do agree, except for a few, which are purely philosophical
and high up in the air and lacks connections to the ground.. That's
just my perspective, but you are entitled to your opinion, I have
nothing against that. I love to stay on the ground as well as touch the
skies, as long as I am in the body.
Concluding I must agree, that I got a lot of illuminating insights from
you for which I thank you immensely from my heart. A good piece of
thought work.
IN LOVE AND LIGHT
Anandajyoti
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