1998/02/23  05:30  
 kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #145 
  
kundalini-l-d Digest				Volume 98 : Issue 145
 
Today's Topics: 
  Re: Kundalini Music                   [ Richard Wentk <richardATnospamskydancer.co ] 
  snake dreams                          [ "Cara McCormack" <caradeepaATnospamhotmail ] 
  Re: True Love!                        [ Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com ] 
  Re: HRTZEN: Re: Solving the Iraqi Cr  [ Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.co ] 
  Re: HRTZEN: Re: True Love!            [ Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.co ] 
  Re: Kundalini Music                   [ Danijel Turina <dturinaATnospamusa.net> ] 
  Re: Re: Kundalini Music               [ AfperryATnospamaol.com ] 
  Re: HRTZEN: Re: Solving the Iraqi Cr  [ Danijel Turina <dturinaATnospamusa.net> ] 
  Re: HRTZEN: Re: Solving the Iraqi Cr  [ Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.co ] 
  Re: HRTZEN: Re: True Love!            [ sassiATnospamworldnet.att.net ] 
  my answer to poll questions           [ Mary Ezzell <maryATnospamsonic.net> ] 
  squiggly white dots                   [ Mary Ezzell <maryATnospamsonic.net> ] 
  Re: Solving the Iraqi Crisis          [ "Sen Ashanka"<sashankaATnospamaismi.ais.it ] 
  Hot Flashes (??): was BB Guns, Back   [ Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic ] 
  Re: squiggly white dots               [ Antoine <acarreATnospamconcentric.net> ] 
  Re: Solving the Iraqi Crisis          [ Antoine <acarreATnospamconcentric.net> ] 
  Off topic (fwd)                       [ dcondreaATnospampcnet.pcnet.ro (Blizzard) ] 
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 20:13:40 +0000 
From: Richard Wentk <richardATnospamskydancer.com> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com 
Subject: Re: Kundalini Music 
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At 10:58 22/02/98 -0700, Stuart wrote: 
>A book that you may want to look into is "The Secret Power of Music" by 
>David Tame.  It's probably the closest related book to the subject at 
>hand I've seen. It has been a really long time since I read it but I 
>believe the general idea is related to various types of music and it's 
>effect on conciousness.  It traces various forms of music in different 
>cultures.
 
Isn't that the one that says 'Jazz was put through by the dark forces...'? :)
 
Worth a read, but I did find it a little, uh, Theosophical in its approach.
 
Re: Mr Oldfield - I'll just second the comments made. The Songs of Distant 
Earth is one of the most spiritually powerful pieces of music I've heard 
outside of classical music. Ommadawn and Amarok are outstanding too - 
although Amarok's a little odd, and some might find it an acquired taste.
 
Also well worth a listen is anything by Loreena McKennit, especially the 
last few albums. Book of Secrets is currently doing well all over the 
world, but her earlier ones - The Visit and The Mask and Mirror - are also 
classics for anyone who likes the Celtic style.
 
They're very powerful indeed, and La McKennit is one of the few artists to 
have made it to the top while keeping her spiritual principles intact. (You 
want musical shaktipat? You got it... :) )
 
Stunning...
 
I bought The Visit the same day that I bought The Songs of Distant Earth. I 
played them one after the other and I was *gone* - absolutely out of it, in 
an altered state the whole time.  No drugs required. :)
 
R. 
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 12:37:29 PST 
From: "Cara McCormack" <caradeepaATnospamhotmail.com> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: snake dreams 
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   I used to have a lot of snake dreams.....one was with cobras and the  
other rattle snakes.....in one i was walking thru a house with snakes on  
the floor ..and i had to be really careful where to step...I wanted to  
get outside...to get to a safe place...but it turns out there were  
snakes out there too...!!  Hummmm what could possible be the meaning of  
this dream???? 
     I think it means I can't escape from the kundalini.... 
   yep.... 
  well thats all.. 
    deepa
 
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Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 16:04:00 EST 
From: Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com 
To: HeartzenATnospamlistserv.servtech.com, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: True Love! 
Message-ID: <d0f0eb5f.34f092c2ATnospamaol.com> 
 
Dear friends: The following poem describes the spiritual struggle and the 
culmination 
leading to Kevala Nirvikalpa Samadhi where the Self Recognizes It Self. 
 
TRUE LOVE, DIVINE LOVE  
I fell in love 
I fell in a well 
I fell in a well of love 
I splashed all about 
trying to get out 
out of the well of love; 
terror seized me 
came this thought 
all is lost. 
Tried to swim out 
heard myself shout 
Help! A drowning man 
gasped for breath 
close seemed death 
I wildly thrashed around 
in the well of love 
and in time got out 
safe and sound.
 
Cold and shaken 
lost in thought 
dripping from head to toe; 
I was not sure 
if the battle fought 
had been with a friend or foe. 
Still, my shivering body 
sought no shelter and 
with no place to go 
stood quietly into the night 
until the sunrise again 
brought back life's glow. 
It was then that 
I missed love; 
and many times 
circled the well of love. 
Looked inside but 
could not tell 
how deep it was.
 
I felt its call 
the well of love 
and could not look away 
but how long can one stand 
on the bridge of faith 
and bear such human pain 
so I could not help it 
and  jumped in 
the well of love again.
 
Now, water water everywhere 
all thought has ceased to be 
and everywhere I stare 
My love's face is what I see 
Yes, water water everywhere 
not a single sound is made 
I did drown in the well of love 
and only love remained.
 
Copyright 1995, Harsh K. Luthar 
(also called Harsha, Harshadeva, Harshacharya etc.) 
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 12:29:29 +0100 
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com> 
To: Danijel Turina <dturinaATnospamusa.net> 
CC: heartzenATnospamlistserv.servtech.com, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com 
Subject: Re: HRTZEN: Re: Solving the Iraqi Crisis 
Message-ID: <34F00C17.414AATnospamintercomm.com> 
 
Danijel Turina wrote: 
>  
>  
> I don't know - Medjugorje indeed is a powerful spiritual spot, and so close 
> to the very heart of the violence. Without it, everything would probably 
> collapse to hell. One of the interesting things I have heard of: the Serbs 
> bombed it, they dropped the cluster bombs on the area. The bombs either 
> didn't explode, or made no damage if they did. :) 
>  
> Gg 
Yes, we have heard that from Wayne, a man that has gone there maybe 
twenty or more times and travels around the world talking about it. This 
just shows that God's hand is in what is coming down there and it is 
probably being used to give people time to look about and make choices. 
We are given a lot of free will space to deal with life and also to look 
at what hate does to humanity, and when you have in one country the two 
extremes of happening, hate/murder/destruction and in the same country, 
love/forgiveness and transformation, it is very powerful. If you get the 
chance to go there it would be wonderful for you to do it.  Then you can 
give us your impressions of the experience. How far are you from there?  
>  
> ----- 
> E-mail  : dturinaATnospamusa.net 
> Homepage: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/1377
 
-- 
 
Enter The Silence to Know God ... and... accept life as the teacher.  
Gloria Joy Greco  
 e-mail me at : lodpressATnospamintercomm.com and visit our homepages at: 
http://users.intercomm.com/larryn/ 
&  
http://www.freeyellow.com/members/zg888/ 
Hope you enjoy them! 
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 13:54:51 +0100 
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com> 
To: Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com 
CC: HeartzenATnospamlistserv.servtech.com, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: HRTZEN: Re: True Love! 
Message-ID: <34F02015.68DDATnospamintercomm.com> 
 
Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com wrote:
 
GG 
Thanks, great sharing and so true. Always that letting go and surrender 
to Divine Love and Divine Will. 
>  
>  
> I felt its call 
> the well of love 
> and could not look away 
> but how long can one stand 
> on the bridge of faith 
> and bear such human pain 
> so I could not help it 
> and  jumped in 
> the well of love again. 
>  
> Now, water water everywhere 
> all thought has ceased to be 
> and everywhere I stare 
> My love's face is what I see 
> Yes, water water everywhere 
> not a single sound is made 
> I did drown in the well of love 
> and only love remained. 
>  
> Copyright 1995, Harsh K. Luthar 
> (also called Harsha, Harshadeva, Harshacharya etc.)
 
-- 
 
Enter The Silence to Know God ... and... accept life as the teacher.  
Gloria Joy Greco  
 e-mail me at : lodpressATnospamintercomm.com and visit our homepages at: 
http://users.intercomm.com/larryn/ 
&  
http://www.freeyellow.com/members/zg888/ 
Hope you enjoy them! 
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 23:24:46 +0100 
From: Danijel Turina <dturinaATnospamusa.net> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com 
Subject: Re: Kundalini Music 
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Hi Richard! :)
 
>Re: Mr Oldfield - I'll just second the comments made. The Songs of Distant 
>Earth is one of the most spiritually powerful pieces of music I've heard 
>outside of classical music. Ommadawn and Amarok are outstanding too - 
>although Amarok's a little odd, and some might find it an acquired taste.
 
Have you listened to the Tubular Bells II? ;)
 
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Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 17:36:23 EST 
From: AfperryATnospamaol.com 
To: stuartfATnospamdimensional.com 
Cc: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re:  Re: Kundalini Music 
Message-ID: <aae4f5bb.34f0a869ATnospamaol.com> 
 
Dear Stuart,
 
Yes, I agree with you re. David Tame's excellent book which I read about a 
year ago and found fascinating and very well argued. I would recommend it to 
anyone  interested in the subtle power of sound. But pop and jazz lovers may 
find Tame difficult to swallow (although I found his reasoning hard to fault)!
 
I think Tame is a follower of Elizabeth Clare Prophet/Summit University.
 
Blessings, 
Alan 
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 01:24:50 +0100 
From: Danijel Turina <dturinaATnospamusa.net> 
To: heartzenATnospamlistserv.servtech.com 
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com 
Subject: Re: HRTZEN: Re: Solving the Iraqi Crisis 
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Hi Gloria! :)
 
At 12:29 1998.02.22 +0100, Gloria Greco wrote: 
>> I don't know - Medjugorje indeed is a powerful spiritual spot, and so close 
>> to the very heart of the violence. Without it, everything would probably 
>> collapse to hell. One of the interesting things I have heard of: the Serbs 
>> bombed it, they dropped the cluster bombs on the area. The bombs either 
>> didn't explode, or made no damage if they did. :) 
>>  
>> Gg 
>Yes, we have heard that from Wayne, a man that has gone there maybe 
>twenty or more times and travels around the world talking about it. This 
>just shows that God's hand is in what is coming down there and it is 
>probably being used to give people time to look about and make choices.
 
Yes, I felt great hearing about that. :)
 
>We are given a lot of free will space to deal with life and also to look 
>at what hate does to humanity, and when you have in one country the two 
>extremes of happening, hate/murder/destruction and in the same country, 
>love/forgiveness and transformation, it is very powerful. 
 
:)
 
>If you get the 
>chance to go there it would be wonderful for you to do it.  Then you can 
>give us your impressions of the experience. How far are you from there? 
 
Actually, it is not the distance, it would probably take a couple of hours 
driving, but I don't feel drawn towards it, it is OK but nothing there for 
me. Actually I think about going to an island here on the Adriatic, away 
from the background noise, just a week or so, to work with my students on 
some more demanding things - I will probably do that. :)
 
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Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 18:19:22 +0100 
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com> 
To: Danijel Turina <dturinaATnospamusa.net> 
CC: heartzenATnospamlistserv.servtech.com, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com 
Subject: Re: HRTZEN: Re: Solving the Iraqi Crisis 
Message-ID: <34F05E15.6419ATnospamintercomm.com> 
 
Danijel Turina wrote: 
>  
> Actually, it is not the distance, it would probably take a couple of hours 
> driving, but I don't feel drawn towards it, it is OK but nothing there for 
> me. Actually I think about going to an island here on the Adriatic, away 
> from the background noise, just a week or so, to work with my students on 
> some more demanding things - I will probably do that. :)
 
Gg 
Probably some piece and quiet is very valueable isn't it? Do you all 
live together in an area? Thanks for sharing, we need to be reminded 
that life isn't always the way it appears here in America.  
>  
> ----- 
> E-mail  : dturinaATnospamusa.net 
> Homepage: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/1377
 
-- 
 
Enter The Silence to Know God ... and... accept life as the teacher.  
Gloria Joy Greco  
 e-mail me at : lodpressATnospamintercomm.com and visit our homepages at: 
http://users.intercomm.com/larryn/ 
&  
http://www.freeyellow.com/members/zg888/ 
Hope you enjoy them! 
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 02:15:16 GMT 
From: sassiATnospamworldnet.att.net 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: HRTZEN: Re: True Love! 
Message-ID: <34f0daef.40796233ATnospammailhost.worldnet.att.net> 
 
I'm sitting here listening to the "Best of Heart" fighting a flu bug. 
This is what says it for me.
 
TURNING
 
He had long won it through gazing. 
Stars fell to their knees 
under his grappling up-glance. 
Or he gazed beseechingly, 
and the scent of his urgency 
wearied an Immortal, 
until it smiled on him from sleep.
 
Towers he gazed at with such force 
that they were startled 
building them up again, abruptly, and in an instant! 
But how often the landscape, 
overburdened by the day, 
rested in his quiet perceiving, at twilight.
 
Animals stepped trustingly 
into his open gaze as they pastured, 
and the caged lions 
stared in as into unthinkable freedom; 
birds flew straight through it, 
as it made room; flowers 
gazed back in it  
greatly, as in children.
 
And the rumor that a 'gazer' existed 
stirred  the less clearly, 
more questionably visible ones. 
stirred women.
 
Gazing how long? 
How long inwardly lacking, 
imploring deep down in his glance? 
When he, forever waiting, sat far from home; the hotel's 
distracted, turned -aside room 
sullenly around him, and in the avoided mirror 
again the room 
and later from the tormenting bet 
again: 
there was counsel in the air, 
beyond grasping there was counsel 
over his still feelable heart, 
over his heart which through the buried alive body 
could nevertheless he felt 
they had counsel and passed judgment: 
it did not have love.
 
(And forbade him further consecrations.)
 
For the act of gazing sets limits. 
And the world gazed at more deeply 
wants to flourish in love.
 
Work of the eyes is done, 
begin heartwork now 
on  those images in you, those captive ones; 
for you conquered them: but now you don't know them. 
Behold, inner man, your inner woman, 
she who was won 
from a thousand natures, she 
the till now only won, 
as yet never loved creation.
 
Rainer Maria Rilke 
Paris, June 20, 1914 
Translation: Edward Snow 
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 23:21:08 -0800 
From: Mary Ezzell <maryATnospamsonic.net> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: my answer to poll questions 
Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980222104054.006f0920ATnospampop.sonic.net> 
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Before K arising (1979, at age 35):
 
>Meditation: 	 a very very little set it off (Jiriki Buddhist)
 
>Chant: 	 never
 
>Prayer: 	 not for years, tho strongly years before
 
>Hatha Yoga: 	 a very little maybe
 
>OBE:	 	not for years. saw lots of golden light in teen years :-)
 
>Agnostic: 	yes
 
>Shaktipat: no contact with any possible guru before it awakened
 
IMO it was awakened by a 'coincidental' combination of going off birth 
control pills, pre-diabetic hypoglycemia with strict diet and monitoring of 
emotions, staying home and doing craft work making designs from abstract 
patterns ... and maybe fumes from batik wax :-)
 
After about a year of K 'craziness', reading Wm James, Timothy Leary, 
/Cosmic Consciousness/ etc, I read Muktananda's /Play of Consciousness/ and 
that seemed much the best description of /all/ the symptoms I was having, 
including the uncertainty. So I visited a Muktananda ashram and learned all 
the support stuff: veg diet, chanting, asanas, etc. That smoothed it out 
nicely.
 
Then I went travelling looking for just the right ashram-home, and got kind 
of caught up in adventures. Haven't found a belief-system or environment 
that really seems to fit my K experience (tho classic Muktananda and 
Hindu/Jain yoga is close and wonderful).
 
Did a lot of yoga, med, etc for years there.
 
Now, probably not doing enough of any of them. :-) K has slowed down and 
become very mild and weak. I'm more focussed on worldly things, not 
encouraging K much. Filling in the gaps by studying psychic aura healing, 
entity removal, some neo-pagan stuff, etc. GEtting Upledger work (to 
correct skull damage that may have turned off K stuff at age 20).
 
Hm, maybe that's because of being less agnostic???? :-))))))  STarting to 
believe there is an after-life etc, makes me feel like better be 
worldly/productive while I have the chance, there will be plenty of time 
for meditation and K in Bardo or Summerland!
 
Also -- feel there is somewhere just the perfect "spiritual family", want 
to find them first and do the meditation/K in the right environment.... But 
first, want to use productive years with the internet etc to write/channel 
some really good books telling all I've learned so far so I'll have 
something really good to read in next incarnation. Imagine if Gopi Krishna 
had written /The Wizard of Oz/. :-)
 
Now:
 
>Meditation: 	short, several times a day ... sort of in background all the 
time... 
>Chant:  	occasional, and lots of silent japa most of the time 
>Prayer:  	trying it :-) 
>Hatha Yoga:  most mornings, short 
>OBE 	  	big one once every year or 2, mild but inspiring. short ones many 
dreams etc. 
>Agnostic: 	inquiring, testing, expect there is an answer to be found 
>Shaktipat:	met several gurus in early 80's, but their influence was 
smoothing, peaceful. Never requested 'initiation' etc.
 
Namaste, 
Mary 
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 23:21:11 -0800 
From: Mary Ezzell <maryATnospamsonic.net> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: squiggly white dots 
Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980222105507.006f0920ATnospampop.sonic.net> 
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At 02:26 PM 2/20/98, nik thomas wrote:
 
> i like to  
>after raising my vibration level lay on the grass and watch squiggly  
>white dots float into the tips of trees, that one always trips people  
>out when i bring it up.  Does anyone else do that?? 
 
Barbara Brennan talks about them in /Light Emerging/, she sees the trees 
absorbing them too. She calls them Orgones I think.
 
I see something like that, they wiggle like mosquito larvae! For a long 
time this happened only when I was in a specially good clear state, like 
after yoga class or with some person with a very good aura (usually yoga 
teachers).
 
Brennan says anyone can learn to see them, so I followed her technique 
(same as yours, look at blue sky preferably with trees) and can now see 
them after a few seconds just about any time I squint my eyes. She gives 
this as an exercise on the way to learning to see auras.
 
A materialistic view of these things (or something like them) is that they 
are things happening at the back of the eyeball, I forget just what. There 
is a museum called Exploratorium in San Francisco that tells about those 
and has a sort of telescope set up with a blue background where you look in 
and see them.
 
IMO it's a good exercise to practice seeing all sorts of things we normally 
filter out. Even those germs that float around on the eyeball, and 
afterimages, etc etc. The same filter that turns them off probably turns 
off seeing real auras etc etc too.
 
 
Namaste, 
Mary 
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 10:02:31 +0100 
From: "Sen Ashanka"<sashankaATnospamaismi.ais.it> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com 
Cc: heartzenATnospamlistserv.servtech.com 
Subject: Re: Solving the Iraqi Crisis 
Message-Id: <C12565B4.00308FD9.00ATnospamais.it> 
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Somebody wrote :--
 
>Hey, maybe we all have it wrong!  Could be that Bill and Saddam are 
nothing 
>but puppets and that we all are playing our part in this 'Grand Puppet 
Show' 
>called "Desert Storm ll" 
> 
>Question is:  who is really pulling the strings? 
Very well put.
 
The phenomenol world, i.e. the world we are used to seeing through 
our limited five senses, contains the characteristics of inertness, force 
and spirituality.
 
When spirituality is forgotten, inertness and forcefulness take over. 
In a way no one is pulling strings, just a play of these forces through 
our egos. The trouble with us is that we do not look at ourselves and 
see ourselves think and act. We just act the way our feelings take us. 
This leads to lack of self-control in out thinking and actions.
 
The more we are in positions of power, the more important it becomes 
for us to exercise self-control. But, self-control and discretion is not 
everybody's favourite activity. So, the result is individual and collective 
actions to please the individual and collective ego. They have to 
"live up" to people's expectations of "do something" attitude. A 
political crisis earns a politician more mileage than signing a plan 
to fix the village drains and canal systems.
 
As an example, politicians keep digging up some issue or another 
just to have something to do. They (and us) have forgotten that the 
primary activity of the politicians is to administer and manage the 
wealth and economy of the community in a peaceful manner.
 
It is clear that both sides of the war makers are not acting on 
spiritual principles. So, as far as who is pulling the strings, the 
clear answer is our collective forceful ego is driving people in 
power to behave in this manner. No logic would get through to 
them, and since they have power, as had been put very well, 
power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely.....
 
This is the law of this phenomenal world, there is good and 
there is bad. But the creator has created both the good and 
the bad, so that we, with our sense of discretion, choose the 
good, reject the bad and travel back towards the Energy that 
we have originated from.......
 
Cheers and love to all 
Ashanka 
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 03:23:21 -0600 
From: Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic.net> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com 
Subject: Hot Flashes (??): was BB Guns, Back Pain, Acupuncture & Hot 
 Flashes (??) 
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Michele <MMeyers541ATnospamaol.com> wrote:
 
>What I found interesting was that, I've NEVER had a "hot flash" before this 
>wk.  "They" started happening the 1ST TIME I did the grounding meditaion!... 
> 
>So now I'm analyzing menopause's k-connection....
 
I was getting hot flashes early; menopause starts early in my family.  The 
strong ones seemed to me to be connected to uterine contractions - I could 
feel the uterus contract.
 
When the K. went into full gear, the waves going up the body often felt 
like they were coming from uterine contractions.  Again I could feel the 
uterus contract.  But I had had a complete hysterectomy, and there was no 
uterus!
 
Love, 
Ann 
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 04:34:05 -0500 
From: Antoine <acarreATnospamconcentric.net> 
To: Mary Ezzell <maryATnospamsonic.net>, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: squiggly white dots 
Message-ID: <34F1428C.C409753EATnospamconcentric.net> 
 
Hello, since we are in vision,
 
Everyone knows about the way bees see. It's like a multi cellular thing.
 
Our vision comes, from tree kind of cells (reason why we can see colors), in 
the back of the eye, that receives the light. It's interesting when our 
consciousness comes to see the outside, like the bees does, feeling each cells 
in the eye fell the outside, and try to follow the neural pattern of energy 
into the brain.
 
Really gives an all new perspective on what we see in this world. And what we 
are.
 
Same goes for all our senses. For me smell is the hardest one, after seing, in 
coming in touch with the point where we but a distinction between outside and 
inside on the physical level, unless i smell something intoxicating, a really 
bad smell :-)
 
Love 
Antoine
 
-- 
It is possible for two factors to exist simultaneously within the entity of one 
consciousness; in other words, the mind that realizes emptiness itself can 
appear in the form of a deity. 
"Highest Yoga Tantra" by Daniel Gozort 
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 04:43:28 -0500 
From: Antoine <acarreATnospamconcentric.net> 
To: Sen Ashanka <sashankaATnospamaismi.ais.it>, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: Solving the Iraqi Crisis 
Message-ID: <34F144BF.9BB4038FATnospamconcentric.net> 
 
Hello Sen :-)
 
> This is the law of this phenomenal world, there is good and 
> there is bad. But the creator has created both the good and 
> the bad, so that we, with our sense of discretion, choose the 
> good, reject the bad and travel back towards the Energy that 
> we have originated from.......
 
This is the law of the phenomenal world until we Open to the source behind in 
the Now, where there is no god nor bad. Two sides of the same coin....
 
Our shadow is a big as our light.
 
Love to you 
Antoine
 
-- 
It is possible for two factors to exist simultaneously within the entity of one 
consciousness; in other words, the mind that realizes emptiness itself can 
appear in the form of a deity. 
"Highest Yoga Tantra" by Daniel Gozort 
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 13:29:24 
From: dcondreaATnospampcnet.pcnet.ro (Blizzard) 
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com 
Subject: Off topic (fwd) 
Message-ID: <16ATnospamdcondrea.pcnet.ro>
 
 Hello,
 
I need a programm to calcutate the sun rise and the sun set on 
diffrent location if I know the latitude and longitude. 
Also a site where I can find this it's good.
 
Thank you a lot, 
Codrin 
 
 
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