1998/02/16 06:06
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #130
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 130
Today's Topics:
Ear ringing [ nkognito <nkognitoATnospamtcon.net> ]
Re: compassion [ David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net> ]
Sharing Kriya experiences (a bit lon [ Teresa <TGarlandATnospamVIPMail.com> ]
Re: [Fwd: HRTZEN: Re: kriyas] [ anandajyoti <anandajyotiATnospamgeocities. ]
Re: Concentrating on the Ajna Chakra [ "Rick Puravs" <ric51ATnospamgeorge.lhi.net ]
Re: compassion (Breathe!) [ Geryl and Mark Waind <gandm.waindATnospams ]
Re: postures [ Geryl and Mark Waind <gandm.waindATnospams ]
Re: Heaviness/Numbness in Left Leg [ "Roberto Gonzales del Valle" <rgvgATnospam ]
Re: compassion [ Peswani <peswaniATnospamgiaspn01.vsnl.net. ]
Who is ego? [ UweJohannATnospamaol.com ]
RE: Weird Feeling/Visions [ "Peter Sutphen" <plslalATnospamclassic.msn ]
Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 16:42:28 -0500
From: nkognito <nkognitoATnospamtcon.net>
To: <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Ear ringing
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Hi Iri and All,
Iri wrote:
> We have talked about ringing in the ears but nobody as far as i know has
discussed feeling the pressure waves hit the ears and subconciously
visualizing the sound waves coming at the ears. Both of these phenomenon
are experiences that i have had during the last 2 or 3 weeks.
Sherry responds:
The ear ringing I have varies. Sometimes its the left ear and sometimes
the right ear. Sometimes it soft or loud volume and sometimes the
frequency varies high or low. Sometimes it so soft and shrill it's almost
deafening. Sometimes its a long tone and sometimes a short tone. I have
been documenting it, trying figure out the differences between the sounds
and if it may have any significance. So far the only thing I have noticed
is that the right ear is procognitive/synchronicity related and the left
ear is information related.
What I have not been able to determine, is if soft means a farther away
time and loud means sooner. In other words, is there a time factor
involved. Also, whether the sounds are at work or at home.
Still cataloging my sounds, I just started it a week ago, so I'm still
analysing it.
sound-----time-----day/date-----place-----impression, feelings, thoughts
I also don't know with the weather plays a factor, or barometer readings
etc. What I don't want to do is get so bogged down in cataloging the
sounds that I totally miss the messages I'm getting. But I thought it
would be nice to do it for a little while to see what it means to me
personally.
Also be careful not mix up the hums of your computer. My computer hums and
certain ways I turn my head I hear different tones, these are not the same
sounds. So notice this. Also microwaves, furnaces, tv's and refrigerators
also make sounds similar, again--not the same sounds. At least not for me
anyway.
Love and Light,
Sherry
Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 17:22:42 -0500
From: David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net>
To: Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: compassion
Message-ID: <34E76AB1.F5C20D2FATnospammail.snet.net>
Jason S. White wrote:
> I suggest that it is possible to see It and to work through ego at the same
> time.
Possible? This is healing of course. Clouds thin and thicken.But if anyone looks
directly into the sun that experience is forever.
> since silence doesn't add much in these realms!
Bite your tongue.
> Why not gush utter nonsense?
I love the warmth of the sun.
> There is no imperative to be silent in order
> to be with Spirit.
True. But to experience Spirit it's crucial.
> Tell me more.
Words are bricks.
> Love. Jason.
Love...
Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 18:39:41 -0500
From: Teresa <TGarlandATnospamVIPMail.com>
To: K List <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Sharing Kriya experiences (a bit long)
Message-ID: <34E77CBC.FCF6403CATnospamVIPMail.com>
Hi everyone,
I've been wanting to write up what I've learned from the kriya activity
I've experienced over the last 5 months. As some of you know, I've had
*a lot* of kriyas. What follows is a reply to a question from Gloria
Greco on the Heartzen list. I hope that someone on the k-list will
benefit from the sharing. Kriyas can be quite shocking at first, but as
I explain below, they can provide an incredibly deep healing. I'd love
to hear of other's tales as well.
Teresa
I learned about kriyas through first-hand experience. They began slowly
with a gentle rocking and then became extremely intense over the course
of a week. It was at that time during a long session with them that I
first
saw Kali in my mind's eye. I suspected that it was kundalini, so I did
some research about it, then found a local K. master to talk to. He
told me
about kriyas and that it appeared that I was overbalanced with male
energy, and needed to get toward the feminine. He identified the female
diety as Kali. He gave me quite a bit of advice: eat a lot, working
with cooling breath, how to ground myself, how to *make appointments*
with them (as opposed to them ruling my life) and finally suggested I
pray to Kali for protection and guidance.
During the next 4 months, Kali became my teacher. She beckoned me to
dance with her and in doing so pulled out rage and grief that was buried
within. (I feel permanently purged of a lot of stuff). She taught me to
build an altar to her. Once while I meditated, I felt attacked by
something. I called on her, and she loomed up huge and warded off the
predator.
I had every type of kriya that is described:
Vibrations through part or the whole body. (They are in my neck as I
write this). Whole body twitches (even in restaurants) but often as I
drive up through the foot, buttock, and spine. Automatic mudras (hand
gestures), automatic asanas (yogic positions) for up to 2 hours at a
time. Twice the asanas resulted in automatic sexual release (crazy!).
Guided movements (like tai chi). Then the big ones: repetitive
movements, violently fast as I sit in meditation. In these, I may have
my head spinning around in one direction, one arm moving in rapid
circles in the other direction and then my other arm moving in and out
-- all at incredible speeds. These last from 1 - 15 minutes at a
time. Sometimes, they go for 5 minutes, stop for 10 and then start
again, repeating for an hour or more.
When they come, I try to 1) go with them 2) observe the movements and
not judge -- even when my guide instructs me to do something very
strange 3) be open to the images and feelings that come with them. This
has generally worked very well. Usually, 2 days following an intense
bout of kriyas, I will process a huge amount of material and quite often
get neck deep into moods and emotions. Sometimes during this time, I'll
draw with pastels on paper what I'm feeling. At the end of the
processing, I understand what I've dealt with, and then I feel free of
that baggage. For example, I may understand that I have worked through
a particular set of traumatic periods. It is a very deep healing.
A few people have witnessed these kriyas during retreat. One person
remarked on the gracefulness, and asked how long I had studied yoga.
(Which I haven't.) They are scary to many people. My husband and best
friend recoiled in alarm at first.
The Buddhist teacher/author, Jack Kornfield, experienced these worse
than me. He told me that they come in waves. (Which I hadn't realized,
but now know to be true). He wrote that one should try to hold back
moderate sized kriyas and let them build to big ones so that they would
more forcefully clear the blockages. This also helped me.
One last thing. Occasionally, the kriyas become so intense that I begin
to hyperventilate, and that takes me into an altered state. I then have
what
I refer to as mini-breathwork sessions. These are transpersonal in
nature,
and I encountered archetypes. This is very profound. I have learned a
great deal in this way.
As I wrote this, I stopped to remember the body movements. As I closed
my eyes to imagine them, my body immediately went into the high
speed every-possible-direction kriyas. It looks like there is stuff
waiting to come out again. I mentioned that it has recently moved into
my head and neck . This is a more subtle form. In my head, there is a
slow repeated movement of energy from left to right like a 1 - 2 inch
tall windshield wiper. It moves across one part of the brain, then up
higher or lower. It is a very pleasant feeling and is bringing
lightness into my experience (which is a real change from the heavy
emotions).
During the past month, I've been trying to find some calm, and so have
attempted to become heart centered. I find that I am more detached from
the kriyas, and able to work with them better.
If you are experiencing any of this, and need some support, I'd be glad
to listen and share from my experience.
Teresa
Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 18:46:42 -0800
From: anandajyoti <anandajyotiATnospamgeocities.com>
To: Teresa <TGarlandATnospamVIPMail.com>
CC: Heart Zen <heartzenATnospamlistserv.servtech.com>,
"kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com" <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: Re: [Fwd: HRTZEN: Re: kriyas]
Message-ID: <34E7A889.F2C12CACATnospamgeocities.com>
Teresa wrote:
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> <snipped>
>
> Teresa wrote:
>
> > During the next 4 months, Kali became my teacher. She beckoned me to dance
> > > > with her and in doing so pulled out rage and grief that was buried within.
> > > > (I feel permanently purged of a lot of stuff). She taught me to build an
> > > > altar to her. Once while I meditated, I felt attacked by something. I
> > > > called on her, and she loomed up huge and warded off the predator.
> <snipped>
> > Anandajyoti>People who are not well informed of the Kali Energy, do get alarmed,
> > which is natural due to the informations available on the polarities of the Kali
> > energy.
>
> Teresa: Can you speak some more about this? Clearly Kali scares many people who find
> it hard to get past the destructive side of her. I have heard that she is also
> revered as the deity of creation. Can you give me some perspective on this. I have
> worked with her during this while and she has been generous with her assistance. As I
> move to a *calmer life*, do you know if there is an aspect of her that I can continue
> to seek guidance from?
>
> My kriya experiences are definitely on the extreme side. I haven't found many who
> could offer me insight. I know that the kundalini teaches its own lessons, but still
> there is the practical matter of *living through* these things. <snipped>
> Teresa
Anandajyoti>
As is written in the "Devi Mahatmyam" containing 1700 hundred verses, I would like to tell a story on the same which is easily understandable from the modern point of view.
The origin of the female energy par se, goes back to the story I relate here.
"The demons (Asuras) and the angels Suras) who were cousins and have been manifested from the transcendent via media of Rishi Kasyap. The angels were manifested during the
daylight hours and the demons manifested during the night hours.
Both being manifested from the same source, elected to have control over the heavens, and fought innumerable battles, over a long period of time.
As a prelude I need to relate the First section of Devi Mahatmyam. In the first section, the demon kings Madhu and Kaitava (symbolic of the second chakra manifestation of
the hunger and craving for sexuality vis-a-vis procreation) through a long period of meditation got the boon that they could not die, through any man (literally). being
foolish enough due to their strong ego, was satisfied with the boon. So they began to torture humans and the angels and for a time took over the heavens. The angels having
suffered banishment from the heavens, meditated for remedy. Shiva was the one who directed them to concentrate all their respective energies to a point in space. Vishnu and
Brahma also joined in this endeavor. As the energies converged, and coalesced, it manifested as a beautiful woman, full of fiery light and effulgence. Each of the Angels and
Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva , adorned the woman's ten hands (symbolic of ten directions ,includes up and down ) with Divine weapons. This manifestation of the female energy
formed out of the convergence of all other energies, was called Ambika ( symbolic of the energy which annihilates, negates or neutralizes the effects of pain, fear and all
the negative aspects).
So Ambika, who was not a male, was worshipped by the angels and the gods, to get rid of Madhu and Kaitava. As the two brothers, Madhu and Kaitava were only given the boon
not to die at the hands of any male.
After the two brothers were killed, there are series of battles which depict the manifestation of the female energy at various times to have been assigned different names of
the Devi.
In the eight chapter of the Devi Mahatmyam during the battle with Shumbha and Nishumbha, two brothers again, representing the demons had been bleeding profusely due to
injuries, and from each drop of blood which touched the earth, grew another Demon, and they were multiplying fast, much like genetic mutation process.
In order to counteract the emergence of so many demons, Mother Chandika, also started multiplying herself and each of her manifestation became Kali. Mother Kali locked the
wounds of the multitude of fallen demons and not a drop of blood managed to touch the earth, and this stopped the spontaneous regeneration of demons. Finally Chandika
managed with the help of Kali to totally annihilate the demon forces.
Now Kali being on her own, got drunk with the blood, and she lost all discerning senses,
and started to attack the angels too. The angels finding no other alternative invoked Shiva.
Then Shiva Being symbolic of the primordial male energy, in order to subdue Kali, lay as corpse on the earth. Kali in her dancing stepped on Shiva's body, and immediately
got her senses of discernment back. She found that she stepped on her husband Shiva, so she bit her tongue, symbolic of saying " OOps, what have I done?"
The other symbolic meaning of Kali biting her tongue , is the fact, that when we humans bite our tongue or protrude it out, then we are unable to speak. Another way of
teaching us not to be talking all the time.
The other description of Kali, from the same source of Devi Mahatmyam, is very well depicted by Gary Zukav:
"Eastern religions have nothing to say about physics, but they have a great deal to say about human experience. In Hindu mythology, Kali, the Divine Mother, is the symbol
for the infinite diversity of human experience, Kali represents the entire physical plane. She is the drama, the tragedy, the humor, and sorrow of life. She is the brother,
father, sister, mother, lover, and friend. She is the fiend, the monster, the beast and the brute. She is the Sun and the oceans. She is the grass and the dew. She is our
sense of accomplishment and our sense of doing worthwhile actions. Our thrill of discovery is just a pendant on her bracelet. Our gratification is just a spot of color on
her cheek. Our sense of importance is the bell on her toe.
This full and seductive, terrible and wonderful earth mother always has something to offer. Hindus know the impossibility of seducing her or conquering her and the futility
of loving her, so they do the only thing that they can do, is to honor her."
In the words of Romain Rolland:
"She was dancing upon the outstretched body of Shiva. In her two arms on the left, she held a sword (the sword of discernment) and a severed head (the empty mind) and on
the right She offered gifts, love, knowledge and boons and beckoned: "Come Fear Not".
She was Nature, the destroyer and the creator, Nay, She was something greater still for those who had ears to hear. She was the universal Mother, "my mother", the all
powerful, who reveals Herself to Her children under different aspects and Divine Incarnations," the visible God , who leads the elect to the invisible God, " and if it so
pleases Her, She takes away the last trace of the ego from all created beings and absorbs it into the consciousness of the Absolute, the undifferentiated God. By Her grace,
the finite ego loses itself in the illimitable Ego, the Atman, The Self, The Brahman."
I hope people in the list don't get annoyed for such a long post, but I would post a copy to the K-list also as you desired.
Any other particular questions could be addressed to me individually, for some answers could be long to give a clear cut idea and the list members may not like to have it.
Anandajyoti
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 00:35:05 -0500
From: "Rick Puravs" <ric51ATnospamgeorge.lhi.net>
To: <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>, "Danijel Turina" <dturinaATnospamusa.net>
Cc: <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>, <heartzenATnospamlistserv.servtech.com>
Subject: Re: Concentrating on the Ajna Chakra
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"your arrogance and not knowing is showing, what is your point? Gloria"
the point is some people are interested in speed
granted, time is an illusion
but shit happens
and it happens in the context of time
nice that some people take their entire lives to work on these issues
i am suffering under the illusiuon of having responsibilities to others
give me speed
thank you
love
rick
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 01:18:30 -0800
From: Geryl and Mark Waind <gandm.waindATnospamsympatico.ca>
To: "Jason S. White" <zymphtATnospambluewin.ch>
CC: Geoff Wheeler <gwheelerATnospamcgocable.net>, david.bozziATnospamsnet.net,
Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: compassion (Breathe!)
Message-ID: <34E80466.202DATnospamsympatico.ca>
Jason S. White wrote:
>
> Geoff "Christina" Wheeler wrote:
>
> >Dear David
> >
> >What has ego to do with compassion? Spiritual awakening is a path of
> becoming
> >ego less. Open your heart, let go of intellect. Breathe!
> >
> >Christina
> >
>
> Jason responded:
>
> The ego less state begins at death. Life is the path to death. So you are
> right if "spiritual awakening" is the path of your life.
>
> Compassion is certainly a fantastic way of relating to the energy within and
> around us. The ego is of the energy within us and could certainly be
> regarded with compassion.
>
> The intellect is certainly a great tool of the human being. Like any other,
> it has it's opportune uses. The intellect is of the energy within us and
> could certainly be regarded with compassion.
>
> The heart is certainly a great tool of the human being. Like any other, it
> has it's opportune uses. Why should we stress it over intellect?
>
> Yes, breathing is highly recommended (by 9 out of 10 doctors) for continued
> life.
> (Begs the question: what does the 10th doctor say?)
>
> Jason.
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Mark responded:
My Dear Friend Jason:
If you so choose, you may operate through your intellect all you want.
It is my own personal choice to move towards working from the heart
center. Intellect (ba) is the midpoint between solar plexus (ca)
energies and heart centered energies (da). Through my own life
experience I have found a very strong correlation between high levels of
pain and stress and centering of self in "ca". As "ba" is closer to "ca"
than "da", there are certain amounts of pain and stress experienced when
centering there.
I am a hedonistic entity. I therefore "try" to choose the most
pleasureable path for self. I find as long as I remain centered in the
heart (da) I do not experience pain, suffering ,or fear. I am not fully
realized, I therefore sway sometimes into "ca" and I do have to center
in "ba" in order to make sense of my surroundings. What I do is "try" to
form an exclusive bond between "ba" and "da" and keep my "head in my
heart". I am still a spiritual child and sometimes sway from this as
well.
What I am trying to say to you is this; centering in the intellect
alone, can be painful; centering in the heart is not. Use your intellect
with your heart and live in peace. I aim for this in my daily
experience. Sometimes I blow it royaly! But, at least at this point in
my growth I am aware of my mistakes. I forgive myself and keep moving
towards the light.
Compassion is a tool for heart centering. Compassion is not an
intellectual tool. When one "feels" compassion, pleasure and "less pain"
are given to self.
Of course, what I say to you is my own belief. It is therefore really
only important to me. I offer you a reflection in my mirror. If you like
what you see, so be it. If not, learn and grow in your own direction of
choice. If you enjoy pain, avoid heart centered choices. There are those
who actually enjoy pain. I know entities of this nature. They operate
exclusively between "ba and ca". It is their choice. So be it.
These are "my" reasons for stressing "heart" centered choices in life.
In my opinion, "da" is where it's at!
Peace
Mark
Ge Da Nop O
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 01:45:04 -0800
From: Geryl and Mark Waind <gandm.waindATnospamsympatico.ca>
To: DruoutATnospamaol.com
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: postures
Message-ID: <34E80AA0.1961ATnospamsympatico.ca>
Dear Hillary:
I know it is a little late getting back to you but something really
strange happened to me the other night. I woke up with this strange
desire to start performing Grouch Marx postures! I could smell cigar
smoke all over the room and felt myself wishing that I had a moustache.
As I got up to walk into the bathroom, I found myself hunched over and
sliding my feet across the floor in a moonwalk fashion with my hands
clasped behind my back! My eyebrows kept twitching in an upward motion!
Do you have any experience with this type of posturing? I realize that
it is advanced. That is why I am calling upon someone with your
experience.
In love and light,
Mark
Ge Fe Da Nop O
DruoutATnospamaol.com wrote:
>
> Dear Mark,
>
> No, Sorry. I have not experienced or know of the moonwalk posture. Although
> I suspect it might put pressure on the back of the neck causing the release,
> perhaps, of some chemical or other.
>
> I love the Groucho Marx, though! I must admit I burst out laughing. He sounds
> like an amusing entity. (except for the cigar smoke!)
>
> Perhaps the list can use the humor?!.
>
> Thanks!, Love, Hillary
Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 23:02:25 PST
From: "Roberto Gonzales del Valle" <rgvgATnospamhotmail.com>
To: MMeyers541ATnospamaol.com
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Heaviness/Numbness in Left Leg
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Hello Michele:
I have just read your post and STRONGLY suggest you take the bb off
your leg ass soon as possible. BBs are made of steel, iron and other
metal impurities that, in contact with the smoothes and humidity inside
your leg are slowly disolving and giving you a pernanent dose of poison
in the zone the bb is located. So if it is near a nerve you have a
dangerous chance to get in serious trouble in a medium period of time.
Besides, it is known now, consult with your accupuncturist, that using
metal, any metal, in the body, causes alterations in your energy levels
and your nervous sistem. Thats why dentists are quitting usid metal in
their paitiens and satrted usid resin and other such products.
so, Michele, please, take notice of my advice. It`s a minor operation
and the father of the kid who accidentally did this to you can pay it if
you ask him. He must anyway. So I recommend you take that bb off your
sistem as soon as possible. I know you dislike surgery, but this is for
your own sake. Kundalini synthoms are flowing into and inside of you.
And perhaps numbness in the left leg is one of them. But let`s better be
shure about that particullar one when the alien element is out of your
sistem.
Hoping the best for you.
Roberto.
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Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 13:02:14 +0500 (GMT+0500)
From: Peswani <peswaniATnospamgiaspn01.vsnl.net.in>
To: kundalini-l <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: compassion
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On Sat, 14 Feb 1998, Peswani wrote:
>
> COMPASSION
>
> If our earth planet were full of love people only, there would be
> instantaneous union of love energy and this earth will have instant
> evolution to Godhead. Prehaps out of billions of stars where evolution is
> going on there are many such worlds of only lo ve people(life). That may
> be the reason that The Almighty God of our Universe is Love God and it
> rewards Love with Bliss.
> But our earth life grew up from animals. And at animal level
> survival (evolution) depended upon fear, hatred, suspicion,cunning etc.
> That is the reason that the present life is full of these negative karmas.
> There are many list members who practice compassion for curing,
> but are careful enough to ground this negative energy so that they are not
> harmful to them.
> When our earth becomes heavy with these negative karmas, in
> ancient times AVTARS had to descend and lighten this world. These AVTARS
> came down from other Stars.
> With the coming of our evolved human person in the form of Guatam
> Buddha direct knowledge came to our world of purifying this earth of
> negative karmas thro the process of COMPASSION.
> There is no need for AVTARS to come down any more.
> After Guatam came Christ who was/IS personified Compassion. If
> anyone prays to Christ and repents sincerely for his sins, he is releived
> of negative karmas on the spot. That is why christianity has survived and
> flourished inspite of foolishness of clerg y and church organisation.
> Compasion is the practical process of collecting ego kalapas from
> surroundings, and transcending it to Causal body kalapas for personal
> growth. But the person practicing practical compassion has to bear the
> karma fruit with Samta and awareness, and not t o pass on to earth by
> grounding.
> Whenever a person remains aware of his emotions without reacting,
> he is creating space inside himself. This will initially open up his old
> concentrated karmas and unbalance him. But if he is AWARE, one day he will
> become liberated. But some of these liberat ed persons, due to their ego
> seed will have to practice compassion. Their empty space will be filled
> with WISDOM which will help them to face different varieties of emotions
> and purify them by AWARENESS.
> Such liberated persons can be angry, jealous etc for a few moments
> but they are aware of these emotion thro long practice and WISDOM. But be
> sure they are egoists. It is egoism that has taken them on this path away
> from self liberation to collective libe ration.
> SHAHANSHAH
>
>
Some one wrote nonsense on this compassion letter.
I read it again and rethought. Damn good letter.
;))))). This creation appears different from different angles, so
nonsense is also right for someone.
Peace
shahanshah
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 07:07:33 EST
From: UweJohannATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Who is ego?
Message-ID: <a2e3849d.34e82c08ATnospamaol.com>
Hello dear friends,
last days I´m a little bit confused (maybe longer?). A lot of you are talking
about ego. I tried to find out who he or she is. At home I asked my wife, she
answered "Ego, don´t know him, is it a new neighbour?" Answering my children,
they havn´t seen something caled ego.... or was it egon..... and started a
search in their rooms (oh you can imagine, they find everything but nothing
that looks like ego). So what to do. If there is anybody who can explain what
it is, ego, for what I must have someone. You wrote "my ego wrote", but I am
now writing too, and looking around me I see no one else here. My office is
very disorderly, maybe ego is hidden somewhere, I can´t see it!
Ok. Hope you can help me to find any ego, or feel free to send me per eMail.
I´m dying to see how it looks. Or is there any meditation to focus on ego,
what chakra you suggest. Only serious advice expected.
Thanks in advance and in love
Uwe
Ps.: If you send me an ego, please let me know how to deal with it, if it is
virus-free, and how long it will be used before it goes bad.
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 98 12:58:15 UT
From: "Peter Sutphen" <plslalATnospamclassic.msn.com>
To: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, RndmOneATnospamaol.com
Subject: RE: Weird Feeling/Visions
Message-Id: <UPMAIL07.199802161254090441ATnospamclassic.msn.com>
Experiences as the Self unfolds to Itself are essentially infinite. Let it
all go. Nothing means more than anything else regarding an experience.
Kundalini manifestation just goes on and on and on. Back to the Self: hollow
and empty! Just the dharma of this moment, then the next moment, then the next
moment. It just unfolds.
-Peter
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From: RndmOneATnospamaol.com
Sent: Friday, February 13, 1998 9:47 PM
To: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Weird Feeling/Visions
Hi all!
For the past few weeks, I've had a weird sensation.....a sort of
tingling.....on the left side of my lower abdomen. It comes and goes, but if
I 'listen' or 'feel' for it, I can find it. It's kind of a low vibration, but
I only feel it on the left side. No pain or anything, either.
Lately when I try to meditate, I 'sense' energies around me or visually see
it/them move. I can see auras sometimes and have been able to all my life.
But it's like I'm seeing the aura of energy itself. It's weird. Not sure if
any of this is kundalini related, but I figured someone would respond with
more than I know now!!
Random One (Staci) =)
"When the distraction of the tongue is removed, the heart listens"
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