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kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #121


kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 121

Today's Topics:
  Re: F*** <- censored ;))) [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistres ]
  Undeliverable: symptom control: BPI [ Blythe <merlinATnospampnn.com> ]
  advice needed-various subj. [ Stephen Kandul <kandulATnospamg-net.net> ]
  Real Love [ nkognito <nkognitoATnospamtcon.net> ]
  Piranhas [ iri <iriATnospamivyrealty.com> ]
  Concentrating on the Ajna Chakra [ Stuart <stuartfATnospamdimensional.com> ]
  Re: questions [ Danijel Turina <dturinaATnospamusa.net> ]
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 15:47:50
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: Danijel Turina <dturinaATnospamusa.net>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: F*** <- censored ;)))
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At 01:04 11/02/98 +0100, Danijel Turina wrote:
>Hi Mystress! :)

>At 11:31 1998.02.10, Mystress Angelique Serpent wrote:
>> Sometimes I write posts then sit on 'em for a while.. try to figure out
>>what the %^$&*##!! I am saying... and whether I am just saying it for me or
>>if I am saying it to share..
>
>I felt something like that going on, yes. :) :* :)

   Yup.. I felt you wondering where I'd gotten to... fun, eh?
>
>>At 19:00 09/02/98 +0100, Danijel Turina wrote:

>Especially in things that seem to be fundamentally incompatible with mental
>God-conceptions. ;)

  Wel, that is not limited to patriarchal religions.. The pagans stopped
worshipping at the sacred wells, once the Roman leigions had pissed in
them. They thought the spirits had left, having been disrespected. The
spirits never left, the folks just stopped believing they were there, out
of their own precoceptions.
  If they had actually been listening to spirit, they would have known that
sprit endures, insead they listened to their own prideful/limited
conceptions of sacredness, and were overrun.
   They still do it, too..
  I remember spending a very magical night around a beltaine fire.. it was
the most amazing fire, and we played all night long. We were throwing wet
wood onto it from the swamp surrounding the firepit, and I seemed to be the
only one who could poke it just right, and keep it burning. Sparks from
the fire headed my direction either went out, or veered the other way when
they reached the perimeter of my aura. My sinthetic lace gown was prefectly
safe, even tho my fire-arranging had it's hem hanging in the flames
repeatedly. At the dewiest part of the night, I had brought pine boughs
left piled elsewhere from an earlier ritual, and had curled them in layers
right around the fire to keep our feet and bottoms out of the mud. Made a
nest, it was a goodness, and not a single needle was burned, by the roaring
bonfire only inches away. Bael and I were having a good time, and this
strange relationship was commented on by many of the witches observing it
happening.
 Dawn came, and I jumped the Baelfire.. and someone commented that my leap
was for naught, as the Baelfire's sacredness had "died" much earlier in the
evening when someone had treated it with disrespect by tossing in a
cigarette package. I was amazed at how they had limited the prescence of
spirit in theri conceptions, and understood better, why the fire would only
roar for me.. I was the only one still believing in it's magic.
  I find more value in the Native American concept "everything is sacred".
All is Goddess, playing hide and seek with Herself.. our job is to find
Her, even when She seems most deeply hidden.
>

>:))) And understanding of this seems to be blocked by some of the most
>serious surrendering problems - I have once read a story regarding a sufi.
>God told him: "If I told people of the way you see Me, they would stone you
>to death". "If I told people of Your infinite mercy and compassion, no one
>would ever pray to You again", the sufi replied. ;))))))))))))) ROTFL
>:)))))))))))) It made quite an impact, although I did not always manage to
>have that in mind, and I did judge some things as inconsistent with
>Divinity; an ego/fear pose, of course. The only thing inconsistent with
>Divinity is non-existence, and of course, it doesn't exist. ;))))))))

  Yes.. and it is often about judging what is best for the other person.
  The sufi thinks prayer is important, for other folks.. and that the other
folks need false concepts for their limited understanding.. never seeing
that if everyone truly believed in infinite mercy and compassion, there
would be no need for prayer.. prayer becomes breathing, existing. Not
separate from life.

> ...> the pleas for 'forgiveness, and freedom from
>>sin' in the prayers I was hearing were unnecessary, that unconditional love
>>not only forgave all, but found nothing evil that needed forgiving. It was
>>me, that had judgements about stuff, and would reap what I sowed...
>
>Yes, that seems to ring a bell... Judging yourself. Not being worthy.

  Yes, and more than that.. judgeing others for judgeing me, even in
judging the priest for preaching ideas that were not true. Judging the
spirituality of another, limits my magic. Jonathan negatively judged the
flock that made him outcast as foolish and shortsighted. Yet they set him
free in the highest good, to pursue his passions.
   All is Goddess.
  <Mystress bio snipped>.
>Mystress, if I could possibly love you more, I would.
>
  Aww... sweet.. thankyou for the juicy K-blasts.. verrry wonderful.

 >>I had been too insecure to possibly believe it that I might be
>>so "special" as to be granted such favors...they said it could only happen
>>every few hundred years, after spending half your life sitting under a tree
>>or in a cave, or something.. LOL! )
>
>Yes, that reminds me of my concept of Kundalini learned from the upanishads
>- 3.5 times coiled serpent at the root chakra, performs a lightning-storm,
>millions of thunders when rising... I expected so much that I had my Shakti
>awakened for years before being sure that I did - actually, I felt it but
>my mind didn't seem to've been satisfied, until I found Kurt's FAQs on the
>Spiritweb. ;))) Kurt, I don't know how to thank you, you're a life-saver.
>;)))))))))))
  Yes, for me a turning point was the Sign and symptoms" faq on Shared
Transformation." I shook my head realizing all these wierd illnesses and
symptoms that had caused me to completely give up on western medicine, were
K. related!! I had accepted I as awakened by then, but I'd not realized how
many ways K. had affected my life. Had not realized that the symptoms of
those around me, ncluding my clients, was K.A.

>:))))))))
  Why do your smilicons have so many extra smiles? Is this some kind of
code??
 
> The point I was making has something to do with what
>I could call "soap-opera heart activity". ;))
  Ah, the white-lighter vegan fluffy bunnies.. they are very cute. Soft and
warm and cuddly.
  Tasty, swallowed whole for breakfast, said the Serpent.... just kidding..
  My slave told me a story about bunnies once, from his life as a farm boy.
They kept bunnies in a large pen, nearly a hundred or so.. one day, dogs
got into the pen and started after the bunnies.. they only killed a few
bunnies, but all of the bunnies were dead of heart attack. Bunnies' hearts
are so fragile, they can be stopped by fear.
  Sooner or later, darkness repressed comes rising up again, stronger for
the negative energy of the repression added on top.
   Goddess seems to set us on a path of learning to love everything
unconditionally, regardless of our desire to cling to our narrow
conecptions of sacredness. She is stronger, so She wins, sooner or later..
and it is our resistance to Her, that causes us pain in the process.

>>There is of course another
>kind of anahata activity, but one has got to have anahata 5 cleared,

  Anhata 5.. now cleared for takeoff.. sounds like a science fiction
show.. whatzat??

>all
>the way, and also to be fully vertical, completely open; whenever I
>externalized that, someone's Kundalini got itself awakened. ;))) Not at all
>mild and warm stuff, more like a contained atomic blast. ;)))

  Unfolding the mysteries of shaktipat is interesting stuff.. I have been
trying to narrow down the sructure of how it works for me, but it seems
just when I have some ideas, a new form manifests.
  Originally, it was leading someone thru the grounding excercise, I didnt
understand what effect that had on them, but discovering how much they were
loved, seemed to change them forever. It is a thought-form conception that
is understood by the unconscious as a request to reconnect with source, and
recharge..
  This style works even over internet, tho there is more to the grounding
site than that..
  When my BDSM clients were telling me that sessions with me were unsually
intense, I had no frame of reference with whch to compare.. I have never
been to a pro Domina myself, so I could hardly know how intense they were
supposed to be..
  These days, I can channel K.A. thru touch, and over distance, and have
found much amausement drawing a deep k-fired power breath and blowing it at
my slaves. their knees go weak with shakti-bliss, and they quietly collapse
into a vibrating heap, so they won't fall over. Good fun.
  Externalized.. imagined thier energy moving in a certain way??
  You have mentioned, "Fully vertical".. what does that mean to you?
  Tuning in on your meaning, I get the "eternal thread of light" coming
thru self, connecting divinity above and planet below.. awakening the whole
rainbow of chakras as t moves thru them creating perfect balance..
  And also the top/bottom vertical status dynamic of Mystress/slave,
Guru/chela.. teacher/student?
  I percieve horizontal movements tho, int he energy circulating in the
aura, and moving outward to "other". Heart to heart. These horizontal
movements are most poweerful tho, when there is the vertical dynamic first.
Polarity, then unity.

  The thread is a conception for collecting life energy from "other", above
and below, and suggesting a movement of energy from one place to another.
It is a very effective conception, and I use it most often. The energy is
felt as warmth.
  But to go one step farther, time and space is an illusion, and there is
no "here or there" to go to.. all of the universe, including both ends of
the limitless thread, are inside already.. there is no vertical or
horizontal, just beingness.
  Have you ever tried grounding directly from the limitless love of the
heart itself, instead of thru feet and crown?
   It is a very different sensation.. when switching to that frame of
reference to offer healing, there is a very distinct sensation of cool
breezes ruffling the tiny hairs on the back of my hand. Pleasant, but
different.
 
   Blessings and All, Mystress.

Mystress Angelique Serpent,
  Dominant Experiential Facilitator.
Website= http://www.domin8rex.com/serpent
      :D ;) :0 :) ;P :0 ;) :D :0 :) ;P :0 ;) :)
   I would rather live in a world where my life is surrounded by mystery
than live in a world so small that my mind could comprehend it.
   -- Harry Emerson Fosdick
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 Vancouver, B.C., Canada. Officially the most beautiful city in the world.
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 15:56:31 -0800 (PST)
From: Blythe <merlinATnospampnn.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Undeliverable: symptom control: BPI
Message-Id: <199802112356.PAA10117ATnospampnn.com>
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This is another BPI-derived technique, courtesy of our local librarian.
I've used it for times when i'm in public or trying to concentrate on
something and one of the chakras is flaring. Check yourself to find out
which chakra is implicated. Visualize a dial for each chakra and notice
how
on/off each is. When you find one that's cranked all the way up, adjust
it
until the symptoms are manageable.
I use this primarily when the crown opens so wide that my head itches
annoyingly. It works well enough there.
I've not had much success when it's second chakra blasting wide. Too
much fun, maybe.
>
Blythe
>
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 19:33:20 -0500
From: Stephen Kandul <kandulATnospamg-net.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: advice needed-various subj.
Message-ID: <34E24350.3DACATnospamg-net.net>

hello all-

i told a friend about this wonderful list and she asked me to put forth
several questions about experiences she has had (and is rather afraid
of):

1. she has heard, at least once, many voices, sounding "not quite human"
(she couldn't explain further) in her right ear only...she could not
discern what any one voice was saying-it sounded like babble.

2. she is more and more often hearing various sounds in her ears and
when they come they make her head feel weird and different.

3. she frequently wakes up with severe charley horses in her legs, very
painful. during this time her toes are moving in different directions,
directions which she cannot, at other times, get her toes to move in
using will and muscle (can toes perform mudras?). also, during these
times, there is sometimes a weird feeling (i can't remember her
description here) emanating up between the first and second toe of her
left foot.

4. she woke up a few nights ago (something had happened, i can't
remember what) and turned to her husband for help and comfort. next to
her was her grandmother (who had died years ago), not her husband. the
grandmother got up and walked to the right side of my friend, took her
hand and said something like, "i'm giving you a symbol of protection to
use" (it was given into the right, her dominant, hand). my friend does
not know how to use what was given.

5. 5-6 times my friend has been awakened in the night by as entity who
approaches her(unasked) with sexual advances. his touch is pleasurable
in the extreme...she tells him to leave as he is not her husband and he
does. her husband is encouraging her to make contact with him and find
out more of who he is etc.. i feel that if the entity approaches
unbidden that it does not have her highest good in mind and further
contact may draw her into places she may regret. please advise.

6. lastly, my friend saw something dark and human-shaped out of the
corner of her eye. she ran away from it and suddenly met, face to face,
this 'something', in on open doorway (it had run around in the opposite
direction). they both gasped in surprise and again ran away from each
other....could she have been meeting a lost part of herself?

my friend is not well-versed in new age vocabulary, nor has she studied
chakras, energy systems and the other things spoken of on this list.
these experiences (there are more than the above) seem to have
increased after a very difficult, perhaps near-death, experience
involving a heart operation and the placement of a pacemaker in her
chest. the pacemaker (maybe) is not working properly, but doctors
cannot find anything wrong with either her or the pacemaker. she has
had to quit her teaching job due to the ongoing difficulties with her
heart.

any and all advice will be appreciation and forwarded to my friend.

bless you all,
marsha
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 19:53:40 -0500
From: nkognito <nkognitoATnospamtcon.net>
To: <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Real Love
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 X-No-Archive: yes

Jack says:
>Until my K experience I'm not sure I knew what love was. Now I have at
least a good idea. I seem to find the good in everyone I meet now,and
people are more important to me.>

Sherry's reply:
It's good to find qualities we like in other people. I rarely find people
I don't like unless they are extremely abusive in some form. In fact for
me the hardest part has been to accept my own imperfections, but I am
learning to be more forgiving of my faults as I reach more toward being
more Christ centered.

Jack says:
>However, now I'm wrestling with the question of whether you can love
(romantic) more than one person. It's really frustrating, considering the
mindset of society, not to mention how your SO is going to feel about
someone else in the picture.If you are in love with two people, and you
absolutely will not leave one for the other, what the hell do you do?>

Sherry replies:
Ahhh Jack, you are setting yourself up for heartache with this one. It's
funny,
I had so much to say to you about this. I wrote you a whole letter and
then deleted it. I realized I haven't walked in your shoes and decided to
butt out and let you figure it out yourself.

I have only one recommendation that comes from my heart: Ask God to guide
you in making a the right choice. If this is such hard decision, then it's
certainly worth asking for guidance.

Love and Light,
Sherry
  
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 16:52:45 -0800
From: iri <iriATnospamivyrealty.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Piranhas
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I received this in 1995
see the date below.......

If you are looking for something to discuss, how about racism?

Note the social scientist is a thinly veiled representation of a Jew and the
word goyim which appears in one of the paragraphs towards the end is a
Jewish word meaning persons who are Non-Jews
------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Date: Sat, 30 Sep 95 13:41:35 -0700
>From: CrusaderATnospamnational-alliance.org
>Subject: Piranhas
>
>
>
>What would you say if a Liberal "social scientist" told you to
>jump into a pool filled with five hundred ravenous piranhas?
>
>If you valued your life, you'd certainly refuse the invitation.
>
>But what if the Liberal "social scientist" tried to convince you
>to go ahead and jump in, with the argument that "not all of the
>piranhas are aggressive. Some of them probably just want to make
>friends with you, and really aren't hungry either. To say that a
>piranha is going to attack you, just because he's a piranha, is a
>wicked stereotype, and probably contributes to the piranhas'
>negative feelings about you."
>
>If that argument was made to you, would you then jump into the
>pool filled with piranhas? I don't think so. You'd probably
>figure, quite logically, that even if there were one or two or
>even a dozen piranhas that by chance or due to a recent meal
>decided not to attack you, that certainly wouldn't change the
>bloodthirsty behavior of the other 488. And it certainly
>wouldn't change the outcome of any foolish foray into the pool.
>
>But let's say you were foolish enough to listen to the Liberal
>"social scientist," and you did jump into the pool filled with
>piranhas. You somehow managed to survive. You made it to the
>other side of the pool, where you jumped out, but you were
>seriously injured in the process. After you got out of the
>hospital, where your wounds were stitched up and your lost blood
>was replaced, you were paid a visit by your old "friend," the
>Liberal "social scientist."
>
>Needless to say, you weren't too happy to see him, but before you
>could say a word, he started talking.
>
>"I'm awfully sorry to see how you've been hurt," he said, "but it
>isn't my fault at all, you see."
>
>You replied, "You mean, oh great and wise social scientist, that
>you can finally see that those piranhas are vicious and I don't
>belong in the pool with them?"
>
>"No, I don't mean that at all," answered the Liberal "social
>scientist," "It's not the piranhas' fault that you almost got
>eaten alive. It's not the poor piranhas' fault at all! It's
>your fault!"
>
>"My fault!" you exclaim, "How the hell could it be my fault?"
>
>"Ah, how little you goyim understand," sighed our Liberal genius,
>"Don't you see that what happened to you only happened because those
>poor piranhas were underprivileged and hungry? If you'd given them
>enough food and a decent chance at life, then they wouldn't have
>attacked you like they did. When was the last time you helped a piranha?
>They've been struggling for centuries while your kind lived in
>luxury. Don't you think it's time the tables were turned? And
>not only that, but your kind have caused the poor innocent piranhas
>to feel left out in your society. Naturally they harbor negative
>feelings about you, when you never want to have anything to do with them.
>You should understand that we all hate what we don't know. We must
>integrate piranhas into our society, keep them in our swimming pools
>and bathtubs and introduce them into all our rivers, mountain streams,
>and lakes. By associating with piranhas every day, and by feeding them as
>much as they want to eat, eventually a spirit of brotherhood will
>emerge and we and the piranhas will live together in peace, harmony,
>and joyous diversity evermore. But you, Mr. Ordinary Human" - and
>here the Liberal "social scientist" thrust his flabby little
>finger into your face - "you are going to have to change your
>evil ways before we can have that happy world!"
>
>"You're out of your mind!" you reply. "Piranhas may be fine in
>the Amazon jungle, but you're crazy if you think we can live and
>associate with them every day. We and they just don't belong
>together - and if you're so in love with piranhas, why don't YOU
>go on a little swim with them? And if you think I'm going to
>waste my money and time feeding them and helping them multiply
>just so they can eat me and my family alive at some time in the
>future, Mr. Genius social scientist, then you've got another
>think coming!" With that you kick his delicate carcass
>downstairs.
>
>Still smarting from his fall, and rapidly retreating backwards,
>the Liberal "social scientist" shakes his spindly fist and calls
>back to you, "Your generation is hopeless. You'll never
>understand the need to integrate with and support piranhas. But
>your children will. Our 'brotherhood' program at the elementary
>school will teach them that it's their duty to live with and help
>the poor piranhas. They'll be swimming with them every day at
>the school's pool. And that's just the first step! There's
>nothing you can do about it!"
>
>Gradually the voice of your former friend the Liberal fades away,
>but he's certainly given you something to think about, hasn't he?
>
>
>
>**This article was based on the *American Dissident Voices* program of
>10th April, 1993.
>
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Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 18:48:57 -0700
From: Stuart <stuartfATnospamdimensional.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Concentrating on the Ajna Chakra
Message-ID: <34E25508.4FC80AFFATnospamdimensional.com>

I've always wondered what would come out of focusing attention on the
Ajna, the supposedly mystical eye. There were a few books I came across
that recommended using this center as a means for soul travel. I'm
wondering if this is an area worth exploring or just continue doing the
overall work and letting this area develop naturally.
Has anyone out there experimented in this area? I'd be interested in
hearing about experiences or what this type of concentration brings
about. Most meditation practice concentrates the field of vision to
this area. I guess what I'm referring to above though is a more open,
"come what may" approach.
Does any of this make sense?

Peace
Stuart
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 21:04:33 +0100
From: Danijel Turina <dturinaATnospamusa.net>
To: Natalie Pastor <npastorATnospammail.sdsu.edu>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: questions
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Hi Natalie! :)

At 11:24 1998.02.11 -0800, Natalie Pastor wrote:
>Danijel,
>i thought i had saved your message to chris, but i can't find. it would you
>please resend? thank you so much for your response.
>
>Natalie

Here it comes, I am sending it also to the list, just in case. ;)

---------
Originally posted to Chris Hughes, K-list
-----

Hi Chris! :)

At 13:46 1998.02.08 GMT, Chris Hughes wrote:
>
>Dear Soul
> I have just read your background and it sums up the frustration I
>have felt at times, with similar language.

;)))

>I am thinking of trying
>Tantra ( can you do this on your own?) but my wife is not interested
>in my spiritual journey.

AFAIK, tantra is _not_ about sex, it is about using the sexual part of us
in order to feed our connection with God. An enormous part of my own energy
has always been connected to sexuality - at first I tried to repress that,
following some extremely stupid advice, and that has lead me nowhere, I
became a hard, rough, unkind and even at some times cruel and insensitive
person. Not a very nice place to be. As a matter of fact, the opposite to
that is the way to go - by recognizing that we are very sexual beings, we
are able to focus all that enormous energy of attraction, joy, adoration
and devotion on God/Goddess. It is, IMO, the only way to go. However, it
does not have anything to do with actually having sex - that can lead to
forming the horizontal energy links with the other person, unless he/she is
also completely focused on God/Goddess. Otherwise, it is just plain
ordinary sex, not vamacarya tantra as some like to call it.

>I went to see Sai Baba Christmas 96 and that
>was a wonderful experience

Great for you! I never had an opportunity to go there, hopefully it will
change. :)

>and last October I went to see Guruji a
>God realised Guru and that was amazing.

:))

>On his Ashram I felt the
>experience of Divine Love. My meditation is difficult as I have no
>internal visulisation though I have had birds singing in my head
>which hapened when I pleaded with God to help me see His light at my
>third eye, so at least that is a blessing. How did you clean out the
>rubish between the chakras?

Well, the first thing is to feel that stuff, to be able to connect to the
emotional contents of that energy - the first thing to do is to open
vertically. The easiest way to do that is to "remember God", by reading the
most powerful holy text you know, to think about your guru - having Sai
Baba's picture in front of you may help enormously. With time, you'll be
able to do that at will, without any external help. The next thing is to
feel your inner space, starting from your feet and going up. You will be
able to feel the junk; feel it, and surrender it and yourself to God. Oh
well, I've come this far, I can make the entire technique public here. You
know the "jerk movement" of the head when you finish urinating, or your
entire body shaking when you go from warm to a cold place? That's it. Try
to do it at will, using yoni mudra, that is the contraction of the
perineum/anus (perineum/anus/vagina for women) area, it draws the energy
into susumna nadi, going straight up and leaving your body through
sahasra-ara. The most important thing is to internalize before doing it, to
go inside, connect to God, and then do it. Most of the problems with
Kundalini awakening are the result of externalization, looking out; that
overloads the impure systems and causes all sorts of problems. With this,
you'll be able to instantly draw such energy outbursts inside and up,
surrendering all the excess energy to God. Bottom line is, with this you
can clean up all the surface junk in a matter of days, as soon as you learn
to do this right. In a month, most probably you'll be able to reach the
vertical barrier on your top level chakra, where the real fun starts. :)
More about that when you get there.

Things to have in mind about doing this:
- It doesn't stop until _everything_ is out. This is a serious
transformation tool and should not be taken lightly. The results are
extremely powerful.
- Cleaning the junk releases more junk in the system; the junk has to be
removed before implanting itself into the system, because it can cause
trouble; when the chain reaction of cleaning up a certain area is started,
it has to be finished
- Do not do this unless you want to attain liberation. That's where this
leads. No other goal is possible.

When you do this, at first you could have parts of your body jerking;
left-right head movement means you are doing it right; energy is performing
a spiral movement around the spine and exiting through the crown chakra. I
called this technique "up-stream kriya", a sort of an English/Sanskrit
mish-mash. :) My students are doing this very successfully. It is
demanding, though, it is not difficult to do but discipline is required. Of
course, there are some rules regarding the way of life that make this a lot
easier. ;)

I hope I'll not regret this later. That's the first time I am making this
public.
Om Namah Shivaya! Jai Sai Ram!

>Yoganandas book "Divine Romance is good"
>though not about Kundalin as such. Thank you for your honest" One
>Back Ground Coming UP" I have only once before written to the list
>but the mixture of views expressed here is very helpful to me and I
>love the stories and humour. We are all children at heart.
>Love Chris
>Sai Ram

Nice talking to you! :)

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