1998/02/11 04:34
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #119
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 119
Today's Topics:
Re: questions [ Danijel Turina <dturinaATnospamusa.net> ]
Re: questions [ Glenn Bailey <glennbobATnospamix.netcom.co ]
Re: REAL LOVE [ nkognito <nkognitoATnospamtcon.net> ]
joke to lighten things up [ Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.co ]
Re: questions [ PEGLUMPKINATnospamaol.com ]
which list????? [ Mary Ezzell <maryATnospamsonic.net> ]
Re: entity removal -- Berkeley Psych [ Mary Ezzell <maryATnospamsonic.net> ]
Re: questions [ "Robert Lalouette" <lalouettATnospamimail. ]
Hovering [ PEGLUMPKINATnospamaol.com ]
K-Questions & Comments [ MMeyers541ATnospamaol.com ]
Re: REAL LOVE [ Antoine <acarreATnospamconcentric.net> ]
bipolar v.s. K [ Pam Myers <pmyersATnospammail.coin.missour ]
Re: REAL LOVE [ sassiATnospamworldnet.att.net (Jack) ]
K, conflict, judgement, chaos, clean [ RadiantTchATnospamaol.com ]
Re: REAL LOVE [ Antoine <acarreATnospamconcentric.net> ]
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 01:24:05 +0100
From: Danijel Turina <dturinaATnospamusa.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: questions
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Hi Natalie! :)
At 12:55 1998.02.10 -0800, Natalie Pastor wrote:
>hello everyone,
>after reading Danijel's introduction instead of thinking about the word
>fuck, i started thinking about all the things that happen to me during
>meditation that i can't understand. these things are the reason i joined
>the list.
>
>i would really appreciate some input on the "mechanical" aspects of
>meditation. i hope you are all not so out there you can't remember when
>this all began for you. some of this stuff is scary!
>
>the top of my head and the top of my ears are on fire, i feel as if my body
>is trying to leave itself???
>
>i see brillant violet and green lights pouring into me when i meditate,
>with a pinprick of a white light in the center, i used to think this was my
>aura.
>
>my head keeps whipping toward the right - i can't control this and when i
>bring it back to center, it usually whips back to the right again. this
>makes my neck hurt - i have a painful tightness along the right side of my
>neck that has been bothering me very much for over 6 months.
>
>i have been having what i call "body orgasims" about once or twice a month.
>my body lightly spasms all over and i feel bliss, the effect lasts for
>several days and then fades. during this time i am totally pain free
>whereas i normally have quite a lot of pain.
>
>is this kundalini or do i check myself into the psych ward?
Please take a look at a message I wrote to Chris recently, the one
containing instructions for learning my technique. I assure you, it is
quite effective. ;)
If you can't find it, I would be glad to repost. From what I am able to
see, your symptoms are practically screaming for it. :)
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Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 19:28:13 -0600
From: Glenn Bailey <glennbobATnospamix.netcom.com>
To: Natalie Pastor <npastorATnospammail.sdsu.edu>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: questions
Message-ID: <34E0FEAD.1304ATnospamix.netcom.com>
Natalie Pastor wrote:
<snipped>
>
> i have been having what i call "body orgasims" about once or twice a month.
> my body lightly spasms all over and i feel bliss, the effect lasts for
> several days and then fades. during this time i am totally pain free
> whereas i normally have quite a lot of pain.
>
> is this kundalini or do i check myself into the psych ward?
Natalie - I have the same experience very frequently. I believe that it
is a "K" symptom and one of the more pleasurable ones at that. My
advice is to open yourself from to the experience and give thanks for
it.
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 22:56:13 -0500
From: nkognito <nkognitoATnospamtcon.net>
To: <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: REAL LOVE
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Barbara Shinton wrote:
Until someone experiences love it has no meaning.
Antoine wrote:
Please show me how to experience real love. I'm ready to learn and i learn
fast.
Barbara & Antoine and All,
It's funny but I hear people say that there are many different kinds of
love. I am not sure if I think this is true. Maybe all love is the same,
it's just the way we express it with each individual person or situation.
All love is real. And I am not sure if one can learn love. I think we are
born with it. If you look at a child, when he/she recognizes the parents,
in most cases the love bond is already there. It is unconditional. Maybe
babies feel love while still in the womb? I knew I loved my child before
it was born. Maybe they know this too.
usual disclaimer--just my opinion and I could be wrong.
Love, Light and Laughter,
Sherry
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 20:16:55 +0100
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
To: heartzenATnospamlistserv.servtech.com, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: joke to lighten things up
Message-ID: <34E0A7A2.60CFATnospamintercomm.com>
Gloria here:
I found a cute Sufi joke if I can remember it. Not to good at jokes but
I think I have this one...
Here goes...the master sufi was out with his buddies like all of us,
and after having coffee and everything he decides to take them home with
him for dinner. Before inviting them in he walks into his house and his
wife is there, he tells her what he did. She says...are you nuts? We
don't have anything in this house. He goes oops! Then nothing happens
for quite a while, finally the people come to the front door. When they
ring the door bell the wife answers. They tell her that he had invited
them over. She says, gee I don't think he is here. They look at each
other like...we saw him come in the front door. Just then the Sufi
master leans out the second story window and yells. He could have gone
out the back door?
Now....this was funny to me? Do you guys think this is funny? Remember
their teachings come from these jokes and sometimes they are on more
then one level.
Gloria
--
Enter The Silence to Know God ... and... accept life as the teacher.
Gloria Joy Greco
e-mail me at : lodpressATnospamintercomm.com and visit our homepages at:
http://users.intercomm.com/larryn/
&
http://www.freeyellow.com/members/zg888/
Hope you enjoy them!
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 23:51:08 EST
From: PEGLUMPKINATnospamaol.com
To: npastorATnospammail.sdsu.edu
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: questions
Message-ID: <164ea4fa.34e12e3fATnospamaol.com>
In a message dated 98-02-10 15:53:13 EST, you write:
<< is this kundalini or do i check myself into the psych ward?>>
Dear Natalie,
Don't go to a psych ward. Stay here. Your symptoms are different than mine,
but sound similar to kundalini side effects that others have often reported.
I did not meditate before my kundalini arousal, but started meditating
afterward. When things got too hairy, I cut back on the meditation or changed
the technique. Sounds like that might be something for you as well.
I was in a hurry to progress until someone reminded me that there really is no
deadline. We've got eternity to work on this!
Peg
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 21:06:57 -0800
From: Mary Ezzell <maryATnospamsonic.net>
To: <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: which list?????
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>>Mystress Angelique Serpent wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey Grrl:
>>> Can I forward this post?
Did you forward it from another list? Which?????
>>> It is good info, as you say, and I would like
>>> to share it.
>>You bet. Go grrl!!!
>>
>>Love, Carol
>>
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 21:06:55 -0800
From: Mary Ezzell <maryATnospamsonic.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: entity removal -- Berkeley Psychic Institute
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At 10:48 AM 2/10/98, Mystress Angelique Serpent wrote:
>
>>At 21:06 07/02/98 -0800, Mary Ezzell wrote:
>>What's this? I've seen a little about "entity removal" from BPI....
> What is BPI???
Berkeley Psychic Institute. They have branches as far as Santa Rosa,
Sacramento, etc. Their Anaheim branch has a different name.
They do a lot with entity removal, implant removal, etc. They're very
accessible, lots of free or $8 or $20 drop in things, no big deal.
I learned some useful things from them. Tho they're a pain to deal with in
many ways. If you're doing someothing that doesn't fit in teh assembly
line, they tend to amputate parts of you without warning... :-( But for
those who do fit in, they've got a lot of good resources.
Some of their workshops mention 'kundalini', but they mean something quite
different by the word.
BB
Mary
If there are any other BIP survivors out there, I'd like to compare notes
off-list.
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 07:08:45 +0200
From: "Robert Lalouette" <lalouettATnospamimail.mj.org.za>
To: <PEGLUMPKINATnospamaol.com>
Cc: <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: questions
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-----Original Message-----
From: PEGLUMPKINATnospamaol.com <PEGLUMPKINATnospamaol.com>
To: npastorATnospammail.sdsu.edu <npastorATnospammail.sdsu.edu>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Date: Wednesday, February 11, 1998 10:56 AM
Subject: Re: questions
>In a message dated 98-02-10 15:53:13 EST, you write:
>
><< is this kundalini or do i check myself into the psych ward?>>
>
>Dear Natalie,
>
>Don't go to a psych ward. Stay here. Your symptoms are different than
mine,
>but sound similar to kundalini side effects that others have often
reported.
>I did not meditate before my kundalini arousal, but started meditating
>afterward. When things got too hairy, I cut back on the meditation or
changed
>the technique. Sounds like that might be something for you as well.
>
>I was in a hurry to progress until someone reminded me that there really is
no
>deadline. We've got eternity to work on this!
>
>Peg
>
Hi there
I quite agree with Peg.
I'm quite new to Kundalini Yoga, +/- 3 weeks, and from the bit I gathered
from our teachers, there is no need to rush, one should go at one's own pace
and the benefits and little support entities around oneself will carry one
along the way.
This is quite interesting to share thoughts through the wonderful world of
e-mail !!!
See ya
Robert
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 01:52:47 EST
From: PEGLUMPKINATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Hovering
Message-ID: <8b6f1719.34e14ac1ATnospamaol.com>
There is a phenomenon I just know has to be kundalini related, but I have
never found it documented or discussed anywhere. I call it "hovering," and I
assume others are doing it as well and that it has a name. For me, it is an
act of lifting something up from my body sending it to another person. It´s
as though you go to a person in the air and give them a hug. When you´re
lifted out, it feels like you have a body on the ground, but you are also near
the other person, attached like a kite on a string to yourself. I "hover" or
"air hug" people who are far away as well. I "hover" over strangers. It
feels like I am sending out love and healing, which is my only intent. It
always feels wonderful to me, and so far I have never seen any evidence that
this affects the other person whatsoever. I´ve started hovering over myself
too. Does anyone know the name for this?
One of the concepts I don´t really understand yet is "grounding." Since the
kundalini energy is working from the ears up right now (I describe it as
wearing a beanie full of ants), does that mean I need focused grounding?
And would that curtail the "hovering"? I would hate for it to stop, because
it is so much more powerful than trying to be loving to people without sailing
this kite body, or whatever it is.
Peg
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 02:21:58 EST
From: MMeyers541ATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: K-Questions & Comments
Message-ID: <98a464b1.34e15198ATnospamaol.com>
Hi All,
Bkgd: I'm a 41-year-old technical writer/astrologer by day (working toward
screenwriter-film producer-director-composer--am writing & trying to get
funding to produce an indendent movie musical this year). Have been doing
improvisational comedy and standup comedy the last few years, so, fuck, I DO
have a sense of humor!
K-Experience: About 8 yrs ago in response to a classified ad for a book
editor, met a women who was channeling a book. I attended her class to "open
to channel." I experienced this "opening" as an electrical bolt to my head
with flashes of red & white light. Didn't think much of it at the time,
wasn't sure I was actually channeling, but continued to do it because the
information I was "receiving" was helpful.
Circa 1991 started having LOTS of psychic experiences--on an impulse, took a
walk in a strange neighborhood and literally, PHYSICALLY bumped into my
mother--who was visiting an old friend, but had lost her glasses!! That same
year, even though I swam laps EVERY day at a nearby rec center, one day I
decided to go shopping at a mall instead. Some deejays from a local radio
station were doing a promo there, picked me out of the crowd & gave me several
hundred dollars!
I drove about 60 miles into the mountains (I live in Denver, Colorado), pulled
off the road and started wading in a river--only to have a guy I was
"interested in" but didn't know too well call/wave to me from the other bank!
One day I attended a party held in my honor after quitting a job. I hugged my
friend Robin--& we both expressed concern about staying in touch. That nite, I
had a hard time getting to sleep. I laid awake in bed with my eyes closed,
"watching" a beautiful rose unfold (which now I believe to be my third eye).
That nite I had a rare dream about my late grandmother, Rose. On the way to a
job interview the next AM, stopped in traffic, I noticed the license plate
ahead of me: It said ROSEBUD. I parked in a VERY remote, unfamiliar parking
lot in downtown Denver, & after going thru a maze of places, pulled into a
tight spot--right next to Robin, with her boyfriend Robert! (Still not sure
what the R-O spelling vibration was about, but found it fascinating!)
Since then, have had hundreds if not psychic, then synchronous, experiences.
In 1991 I was diagnosed as bipolar (or manic-depressive)--after some pretty
outrageous (& fun, I might add) behavior--which I MAY describe to you
sometime. One of the benefits of my 'illness"--a very high level of
creativity, the ability to see "thought forms," "light beings," auras/energy
fields & "conjure up" people in parallel universes (or, as my former shrink
said, "hallucinate...during psychotic episodes"). Yes, this information is
very personal, but I'm quite interested in kundalini & its effects in
schizophrenics, manic depressives, the autistic...& other people close to God
& other realms. Just ordered the book, "Kundalini: Psychosis or
Transcendence" from a kundalini bookstore on the Web.
All the studies I've read about manic depression--& I've read MANY--say that
it is typically diagnosed in people around age 20. Psychiatrists say that
once you have it, it gets progressively "worse" as you get older. Well, I was
in my mid-late 30's when I was diagnosed--as was my mother. She was "treated"
for it for an entire year--and then NEVER had another episode!
Back to my background. About 4 years ago, as an astrologer, I read Barbara
Hand Clow's book on Chiron. I was fascinated by the subject, wrote her &
asked her to do my astrology chart as it relates to Chiron. She recommended I
read her book "Liquid Light of Sex"--which describes kundalini, its effects, &
astrological indicators of it, chakras, etc.. She said it was especially
timely for me, as I was approaching my Uranus-Uranus opposition, the time
kundalini typically rises in people, has its greatest power--& is the best
opportunity for spiritual enlightenment.
As a result of reading her book, I realized that my kundalini had risen
prematurely & that my "psychosis" had occurred because of a lack of grounding.
I also came to believe that my mother, whom my entire family described as
crazy/mentally ill, etc., had gone through an extremely intense Kundalini
experience. I realized that I had been craving red meat as my body's way of
trying to slow down this premature k-release.
Last year, I had another "episode." One night, my grandfather, long deceased,
appeared in my bedroom as a profile of light. He spent about half an hour
with me. He gently flew "through" me, back & forth, all over the room--& then
out the window. I didn't sleep the entire night, but noticed that the plants
in my apartment were GLOWING with huge, beautiful bright green auras! The
next day, a dense energy mass of muddy green & gold with a globe/map of the
world overlaying it (??) swirled around my body just above my ankles! My
doctor treated me for psychosis.
Two months later, my mother was diagnosed with lung/brain cancer. (She died
just before last Christmas.) At the time (last June), I went to the Psychic
Fair in Denver, where I got a Kirlian photo of my aura. I found it
interesting in that besides being a pretty turquoise & green color above my
head, it showed a lot of yellow (mental energy) leaving my body on one side, &
a lot of white (spiritual energy) entering it on the other side--all "top-
heavy" chakra colors. I found it interesting in that I was consciously trying
to release "mental confusion" (yellow) from my body, & I had become obsessed
w/ death & the spirit world just BEFORE my mother's cancer diagnosis.
After my "psychotic" episodes in which I saw auras last year, I did not see
auras again through my own eyes. I did a lot of research about them on the
Web, & learned that you can see them most easily peripherally, when you're
tired & relaxed (I had seen the auras after pulling an "all nighter"). As a
separate activity, which I had not related to Kundalini, I began to regularly
meditate on "unconditional love"--which I had decided was the most desirable
energy I wanted in my life.
About a week after my mother died & I was meditating on unconditional love, I
looked up & saw my aura swirling around and above me--all the colors I had
seen in my Kirlian photo plus a gorgeous pink! I got excited as the color pink
became more & more intense--I was literally tickled pink with the experience!
It was then that I KNEW, you CAN see your thoughts!
A few days after my mother's death, I rec'd several communications from her in
Spirit. WHILE reading an article on how the newly departed sometimes check on
their family, the lamp on my desk turned off, then back on. (None of the
other electricity went out in my apt.) I decided that a lot of these mystical
experiences were happening while Jupiter was entering Pisces (my Sun sign) and
Neptune was approaching my Mercury in Aquarius on the Midheaven; last year,
the planet "ruling" Kundalinii--Uranus--entered Aquarius, also conjunct my
Mercury. (My apologies, for those not astrologically interested. I NEVER
intended to write such a long email.)
Also immediately after my mom's death, my lower back begin to REALLY ache, my
neck was stiff all the time, & I' began to sweat profusely (even tho' I've
always felt quite cold in the past). In addition, my entire left leg has
become heavy and numb. (I had thought it was because last June some kids shot
me in the knee with a bb gun--but why the numbness NOW?) And although I
generally feel like I'm at great peace with myself & the world, I've started
getting excruciating headaches at the top of my head.
So, finally, I'll get to my questions (and thanks for sticking with me):
1. I've read that one Kundalini symptom is numbness on the left side. Why?
2. Since, except for the time I saw muddy green & gold around my ankles, my
aura reflects upper chakra colors, I've been meditating on being grounded, in
hopes of opening my lower chakras. What techniques do you folks recommend?
3. I've been reading a lot about yoga--and there seems to be a debate on
which kind, hatha or kundalini, is best for handling kundalini. I'd like to
hear people's opinion about that.
4. I'm thinking of seeing an acupuncturist for the back & neck pain. Do you
folks agree on this?
5. I'm thinking of undergoing hypnosis for treatment of childhood abuse (from
my father) to get at source of some of the body pain. Went to one
hypnotherapist for 3 sessions, but felt his "guided imagery" wasn't as good as
my own meditation/"self-hypnosis." I KNOW 3 sessions isn't enough, but how
long do you think is needed?
6. Lastly, thank you so much for reading the longest email I've ever
written--and I'm looking forward to hearing from you.--Michele
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 03:51:04 -0500
From: Antoine <acarreATnospamconcentric.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: REAL LOVE
Message-ID: <34E16678.14CC560FATnospamconcentric.net>
Barbara Shinton wrote:
Until someone experiences love it has no meaning.
Antoine wrote:
Please show me how to experience real love. I'm ready to learn and i learn
fast.
Sherry:
It's funny but I hear people say that there are many different kinds of
love. I am not sure if I think this is true. Maybe all love is the same,
it's just the way we express it with each individual person or situation.
All love is real. And I am not sure if one can learn love. I think we are
born with it. If you look at a child, when he/she recognizes the parents,
in most cases the love bond is already there. It is unconditional. Maybe
babies feel love while still in the womb? I knew I loved my child before
it was born. Maybe they know this too.
Antoine:
So very true what your are saying Sherry. Love is life, Love is Sex, Love is
Joy, Love is Union, Love is Separation, Etc. The only thing that changes in
Love is the face we choose to put on it to manifest itself. Gives it a
different texture. You child must be wonderful and is lucky to have you as
mother.
A wonderful name by the way Sherry, I love it. Sound like "Cherie" (darling)
in french...
Love
Antoine
--
It is possible for two factors to exist simultaneously within the entity of
one consciousness; in other words, the mind that realizes emptiness itself
can appear in the form of a deity. (That deity can be my wife, my child, all
humanity, the world if i choose)
"Highest Yoga Tantra" by Daniel Gozort
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 03:45:00 -0600
From: Pam Myers <pmyersATnospammail.coin.missouri.edu>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: bipolar v.s. K
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Hi,
Michele mentioned :
Just ordered the book, "Kundalini: Psychosis or
>Transcendence" from a kundalini bookstore on the Web.
>
I would like to hear from others who have read this book and are
knowledgeable about Kundalini. Is this book a good resource?
For sure bipolar II (a milder form of manic depression)
runs in my family. Does Kundalini awakening run
in families too?
And what about taking the standard bipolar prescriptions like
depakote and Lithium...how does that affect the k-experience?
Pam
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 05:36:55 GMT
From: sassiATnospamworldnet.att.net (Jack)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: REAL LOVE
Message-ID: <34e1374b.31964768ATnospammailhost.worldnet.att.net>
X-No-Archive: yes
Until my K experience I'm not sure I knew what love was. Now I have at
least a good idea. I seem to find the good in everyone I meet now,and
people are more important to me.
However, now I'm wrestling with the question of whether you can love
(romantic) more than one person. It's really frustrating, considering
the mindset of society, not to mention how your SO is going to feel
about someone else in the picture.
If your in love with two people, and you absolutely will not leave one
for the other, what the hell do you do?
Jack
Barbara Shinton wrote:
Until someone experiences love it has no meaning.
Antoine wrote:
Please show me how to experience real love. I'm ready to learn and i
learn
fast.
Barbara & Antoine and All,
It's funny but I hear people say that there are many different kinds
of love.
Sherry
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 06:13:59 EST
From: RadiantTchATnospamaol.com
To: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: K, conflict, judgement, chaos, cleansing, transforming (was *f***ad nauseum)
Message-ID: <1bf97a17.34e187f9ATnospamaol.com>
<< Hello there new member. I like to talk about Kundalini rising. It is the
topic for the mailing list. I stick to it as much as possible.
I am over 18 and do try to make a little sense. I do not seek attention
to upset people, I seek share valid experience. >>
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Kundalini encompasses ALL of life. It has just moved through this list
itself, clearing out blockages (creating a little bit of *chaos* to "break
down" and build a higher order). Kundalini has everything to do with
enlightenment, or awakening to our higher and higher selves......that is it's
purpose. So, the IDEAS that kundalini experiences lead us to talk about here
are JUST as valid, & JUST as related to K, as K experiences and symptoms
themselves, IMO.
Even the whining and complaining about changing the topic (rather than simply
writing and doing so) is part of K -- judgements are being drawn out to look
at, accept, embrace, and transform. Lots of ENERGY moving through here
cleaning up, folks! We even lost a few members -- part of the cleansing
process.
K and conflict can go hand in hand until enough judgements have been
"exposed," (its true purpose) and transformed into love and acceptance; and
with each transmuting, conflict is needed as a mirror of our inner selves'
conflicts less and less and less (the inner selves integrate, become ONE
through the resolution of the conflict that has been brought attention
to)......finally disappearing altogether with the complete transformation.
This is and has been in process of happening to/with me, so I speak from my
own experience.
The journey is worth the goal (although there really is no end in growth), and
that journey, my friends, INCLUDES conflict and judgement. Conflict and
judgement are part in parcel to finally achieving complete transformation. A
Divine dichotomy, assisting ascension through awareness.
Thanks to God/dess for the recent *ride,* and all who participated in its co-
creation!!! I enjoyed every minute of it! :-)
With love to all,
<3 Barbara Ellen <3
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 06:31:05 -0500
From: Antoine <acarreATnospamconcentric.net>
To: Jack <sassiATnospamworldnet.att.net>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: REAL LOVE
Message-ID: <34E18BF8.17126E08ATnospamconcentric.net>
Jack wrote:
> If your in love with two people, and you absolutely will not leave one
> for the other, what the hell do you do?
Your body cannot divide itself in two, 3, 4 ... (not yet :-), you have one
mouth to eat with and kiss with, and one lingam. You have to chose at some
point if you want to fully explore at those levels. Not just from the hearth
chakra and higher. I would say... to that love one as the summit of your
love, love the rest of the world, one person at the time, one flower at the
time, as deep as you can love the one you choose to live with. That unless if
you want to cut yourself in two :-) or in multiple parts...
--
It is possible for two factors to exist simultaneously within the entity of
one consciousness; in other words, the mind that realizes emptiness itself
can appear in the form of a deity (you are free to chose that deity, it can
be the creation, or the person you make love with, or the child you
created... Love is powerfull).
"Highest Yoga Tantra" by Daniel Gozort
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