1998/02/09  10:45  
 kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #112 
  
kundalini-l-d Digest				Volume 98 : Issue 112
 
Today's Topics: 
  Wise words from P'taah, channeled by  [ RadiantTchATnospamaol.com ] 
  Re: challenge                         [ Geryl and Mark Waind <gandm.waindATnospams ] 
  Interesting experience...             [ "Debora A. Orf" <dorf01ATnospammail.win.or ] 
  Re: challenge                         [ RadiantTchATnospamaol.com ] 
  F*** <- censored ;)))                 [ Danijel Turina <dturinaATnospamusa.net> ] 
  Re: F*** <- censored ;)))             [ RadiantTchATnospamaol.com ] 
  Re:<- censored ;)))                   [ anandajyoti <anandajyotiATnospamgeocities. ] 
  Re:<- censored ;)))                   [ Danijel Turina <dturinaATnospamusa.net> ] 
  More info on Kundalini                [ Charlie & Delisa Renideo <renideoATnospamm ] 
  Re: F*** <- censored ;)))             [ Danijel Turina <dturinaATnospamusa.net> ] 
  Re: F*** <- censored ;)))             [ AfperryATnospamaol.com ] 
Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 06:30:29 EST 
From: RadiantTchATnospamaol.com 
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Subject: Wise words from P'taah, channeled by Jani King 
Message-ID: <50fa9b84.34dee8d8ATnospamaol.com> 
 
Transformation NOW 
Excerpt from a Public Session - New York City - November 1997
 
 
P'taah: Greetings, beloved ones! (Audience is silent) Cat has got your tongue?
 
(Group greets P'taah)
 
P'taah: Indeed! So my beloved ones, you are welcome indeed. It is with great 
joy that we come forth this evening of your time to be in communion with you 
to indeed reflect to you that which truly you do know in this NOW. To remind 
you of the greatest truth of you, the most unlimited BEINGNESS of you. That 
which you be indeed is the most grand and wondrous spiritual entities, grandly 
multidimensional, grandly powerful. Radiant wondrousness come forth to have 
the most powerful and exciting adventure termed human life now. Of course, all 
of you know that at least theoretically you exist in many, many lifetimes, 
simultaneously. That you are in this now, experiencing hundreds and hundreds 
of lifetimes. Not only in what you term to be past and future lives but also 
in the greatest expression of your lifetimes on every dimension unto the void 
of creation itself. Now that is fairly grand wouldn't you say? Angelic beings, 
you are existing in other civilizations far beyond this planet. You are 
playing wondrous games. The truth is that you are grand Gods and Goddesses and 
you birth yourself into each lifetime. You birth yourself into a timelock and 
in that timelock you indeed do not consciously recall that which are your 
other lifetimes and you may say that the reason for this is to preserve the 
integrity of each experience. So in this NOW you are experiencing indeed, 
those lifetimes where you have no idea how it is, if you like, to be awakened. 
In other lifetimes you are indeed existing in what is termed to be your fourth 
or fifth density. In other words, in that place called enlightenment or super 
consciousness. This lifetime you have come forth to experience what is termed 
to be transformation. You are not here really for a destination. So how is 
that struggle for enlightenment going, eh? Working hard at it?
 
(Laughter from some in group)
 
P'taah: Well, you might as well stop, you know. You are not going anywhere. 
You are as perfect in this now as you are ever, ever going to be. Do you know 
that? You are as perfect now as you are EVER going to be. So that takes the 
edge off it a little, eh? You know my beloved ones, in this timing, there is 
much information available to you. Many wonderful stories, many extraordinary 
methodologies to become ascended masters. Well, that is alright. But we say to 
you if all these stories are not transforming your day to day life, what is 
the point? If you are not transforming your day to day life - what is the 
point? If you are not realizing the abundance of all wondrousness NOW, then 
indeed it is time to stop and look at your creation. After all beloved ones, 
you create it all absolutely! No such thing as coincidence, no such thing as 
accident, no such thing as victim - you create it all. You have birthed 
yourself into your gender, your race, your family - "God forbid", we hear you 
say?
 
(Group laughter) 
 
Your socio-economic situation, your country, nationality, cultural and 
religious heritage and gene pools. You create it all, you create your bodies - 
your perfect, miraculous bodies. You create it and you maintain it moment by 
moment and how do you do all of this stuff? It is strictly fantastic indeed! 
You juggle all of the bits and pieces in every NOW according to what you 
believe and what you feel. Now, your beliefs about who you are, your beliefs 
about reality, about your perceived exterior - which includes your body as 
exterior - those beliefs are indeed energetic wave forms, electromagnetic in 
nature. Those beliefs are attached to your emotions. Your emotions are likened 
unto the powerhouse of you - the power sourceness of you. The wave forms - and 
by the way those thoughts do not live in your head - do not exist in your 
head. Those wave forms are attached by your emotions. Feeling is a label that 
you give your emotions. Emotion indeed is simply energy. It simply IS. It is 
you who label those emotions good stuff or bad stuff. When you label them good 
stuff, indeed the love, the joy, the excitement, all of your energy centers 
are open when you are in the joy, the love, the excitement. You are very clear 
and very present NOW. The moment that you co-create a situation that you judge 
to be bad stuff, immediately those energy centers close down and that energy 
is locked - first within your solar plexus. When it is not dealt with, that 
energy is absorbed, if you like - we are making this very simplistic for you - 
absorbed into your physicality and you will experience some kind of dis- 
easement of your body. If you do not pay attention, and you stuff the feelings 
down or ignore them or invalidate them, the dis-easement becomes more and more 
and more and more, until eventually you die.
 
(Group laughs)
 
P'taah: Of course the truth is you all die of broken hearts. Your body does 
not wear out, um? Your bodies were designed to last you hundreds of years. 
They do not wear out. You die because you are terrified to feel. You think 
that if you go to those painful feelings, if you go to the heartbreak, the 
anguish - that you will die of the pain of it. But the truth is, if you do not 
go then you DO die of it. Make sense? Alright. The power of you is in this NOW 
to be able to transform your lives absolutely and totally. You have no idea 
really of the awesome power that you are. Now is the time to step in to that 
power and the way of stepping into the power is to have an idea of what 
transformation really is. Now, you may say really that there are four basic 
keys to transformation. And we say, think of it this way - those of you who 
are struggling trying to become enlightened - if you are doing it to escape 
this plane of reality we promise you there is no escape. 
 
(Some in group laugh)
 
P'taah: Sorry.
 
(Group laugh)
 
P'taah: And if you think that somebody is going to come and save you they are 
not. Sorry. There are no magic pills or potions. There are no magic rituals 
and rites. There are no magic disciplines or methodologies; none. That which 
you term enlightenment or ascension or whatever other funny name that you have 
for it, is indeed the natural result of loving every facet of you absolutely 
and unconditionally. And that, my beloved ones, is the alpha - omega of super 
consciousness. Everything else is simply a story. And we know how you love the 
stories.
 
(A little laughter from some in group)
 
P'taah: We know that you will do anything to distract yourselves from feeling. 
We know that you love your crystals, we know that you love the stories of your 
star peoples, and this methodology and that methodology, but you know as 
wondrous as they are, all of it - and it is ALL valid - we say this to you - 
it is ALL valid, but guess what? It will not bring you home. And what is home, 
really? What is home? It is right here, right here. ITis already, it already 
IS. There is nothing to do. 
 
All of this is not about being good. It is about BEING. It is not about being 
spiritual. You are already spiritual masters having a human experience. It is 
about being who you are. Sometimes you are glad, sometimes you are mad, 
sometimes you are very sad and, all of it, all of it is valid. And the way 
that you create the transformation is dealing with what IS. As we have said to 
you - when it is full of love and joy and laughter and play - and we say to 
you that there is definitely not enough laughter because that indeed is the 
grand healer. When you are in that place of open heartedness, you are in the 
place where you are open to your OWN divine council. You all want your guides 
and angels - where do you think they exist? Not outside of you - inside of 
you! That is where they exist and the more that you give your power away to 
those guides and angels outside of you or God - outside of you - outside of 
you is where the power will stay! Beloved ones YOU are it. You are it. So, 
back to the four keys of transformation. 
 
The first is that you can only transform NOW. You only have NOW; you cannot 
transform in your past. You can not transform in your future. Paradoxically, 
when you choose transformation NOW, you automatically transform your past and 
your future. But you only have the choice and the power in any NOW moment. 
Does that make sense to you? 
 
Two: You can only transform what you OWN. If there is any facet of you, ANY 
facet of you that you invalidate, that you push away, that you try to release, 
to let go of, to overpower to overcome to run like hell from, how can you 
transform it? You can not. And we remind you that you can get rid of nothing! 
We say again - you can get rid of NOTHING! What you invalidate you empower 
absolutely. What you resist, persists absolutely. It is in the owning of every 
facet. 
 
Three: You can only transform while you are in the emotion. This doesn't do it 
(pointing to the head). If this could do it, your world would be a very, very 
different place in this NOW. This (the head) was designed to be the servant of 
the heart. This is not GOD. This is (pointing to the heart). And the seat of 
your power is there! E-motion - Whilst you are IN the e-motion of fear, and 
fear is ANY emotion which is not love or joy - It does not matter which label 
you put upon it, whether it is anger, or frustration, jealousy, greed, lusting 
after power, trying to control our exterior reality, manipulation - all of 
that stuff ALL of it comes from a little tiny fear. And it is whilst you are 
in the e-motion that you can indeed transform the fear into love and joy! 
 
And the fourth key to transformation is simply this: You can only transform by 
the absolute embracement. Now we know that these are simply words and you have 
heard it all many times before and after all, what does embracement mean? What 
does it REALLY mean to embrace your fear? How do you do it in your day to 
days? This is about your day to days, you know. This is about transforming 
your life! How do you embrace fear? Well, you know, when you birthed yourself 
in this plane of reality, you did come forth with the knowing of wholeness; 
you did come forth knowing the most unlimited truth of who you are. What do 
you think is your most unlimited truth? Anybody have an idea of what is your 
most unlimited truth? (pause) How about this? YOU ARE IN EVERY NOW MOMENT, NO 
MATTER HOW IT SEEMS, A PERFECT, ETERNAL EXPRESSION OF CREATION. That is the 
truth. (Speaks softer here) A Perfect, Eternal Expression of Creation - no 
matter how it seems. When you first birthed yourself, you knew this and you 
birthed yourself into a resonance, into a frequency of fear and dysfunction. 
Not ONLY the fear and dysfunction of your familial background but also the 
collective consciousness of your species, of your society. No matter how happy 
families you were, that is the truth of it. And in that beginning before you 
even had language, you reached forth to convey your knowingness of this grand 
truth. And this grand truth is totally ignored and so begins the first belief 
that you exist in a hostile environment. And then you experience for the first 
time, love withheld, and the anguish of that experience brings you to that 
belief that you are not worthy of all wondrousness, that you are not worthy of 
love and loving. And from that comes the belief that you are simply not 
enough. That is fairly major, um? And the belief that love equals pain. By the 
time you are six years of age those beliefs and the attending pain and anguish 
are set in concrete and as we have said to you - you create your own reality 
absolutely - according to your beliefs and feelings. Your beliefs - the idea 
construct of your beliefs is likened unto a house that you live in - in other 
words your day to day activities all of the years of your life take place 
within the parameters of your beliefs about reality and who you are within 
that framework. When you change your beliefs, you broaden those parameters. 
However, until you will deal with the fear that creates those beliefs - you 
see, the more you believe it, the more it is; the more you feel, the more you 
believe, the more you experience it. Fear breeds fear breeds fear breeds fear! 
And you see you indeed are really, if you like, a body of electro-magnetic 
energy that vibrates at a certain frequency. What is the frequency? The 
frequency is about the feeling, the emotion, electro-magnetic energy. Energy 
in motion - E-motion. The universe supports you absolutely 100 percent, 100 
percent of the time! So what happens is that YOU, vibrating at this frequency 
which is fear based, draw to you that which resonates the same. Like attracts 
like. So, back to this little one, who by the age of six years has very solid 
beliefs about reality about who he or she truly is and you grow in your 
physicality and you grow in your intellect but there within the breast of you 
lives a tiny little girl or a tiny little boy who does not know the truth, who 
does not know, who has forgotten that you are in every NOW a Perfect, Eternal 
Expression of Creation! And so as you grow and as you are learning all of 
these new concepts called your New Age or your metaphysics and you say, well I 
do not know what I am doing wrong. I say my affirmations, etcetera, etcetera, 
and yet I can not change the old pattern. Now, let us go back to this baby boy 
or baby girl that lives within your breast that perceives lack and in the 
place of heartbrokenness and in the place of anguish and does control your 
life absolutely. Do you know that? That baby which lives within the breast of 
you, runs your life. Every time you make a choice out of fear, that is the 
baby one running your life. Remember the last time you lost your temper; where 
the logical, rational, intelligent being just flew out the window? Do you 
remember that? That is called the baby one running your life. It is true you 
know, it is true. Every time you witness an act of aggression or abuse, every 
time you lose your temper or find yourself in thoughts or actions which do not 
portray the highest idea of who you can possibly be, that is that baby one 
flexing its' muscles. That baby one lives within the breast of each of you - 
aged about 4 years old, um? - terrified, heartbroken, believing things about 
itself and the universe that simply produce more terror. That baby one loves 
you absolutely and unconditionally and that baby one has struggled to make 
sure that you survive in a hostile world, because that is the belief. And the 
baby ones' name is fear. And you have abandoned and betrayed, you have 
invalidated, you have tried to overcome, overpower and get rid of any way you 
can - fear. Would that be right? (Pause) And so we say to you, whenever you 
are in the emotion of fear - any emotion which is not love or joy - then you 
have a choice, you have a sovereign choice because you are powerful Gods and 
Goddesses. You have a choice. Remember you can only transform what you own in 
the NOW moment whilst you are in the emotion by embracing; and if the next 
time you are in the grip of fear simply stop and take some deep breaths and 
close your eyes and see in your minds eye a baby you, aged about 4 years. And 
if you saw that little being standing in front of you heartbroken, terrified, 
what would you do? Would you try to overcome, overpower, invalidate, kick it 
out of your life? I don't think so. You would indeed enfold that baby one to 
the breast of you and you would say "beloved of my heart, I love you 
absolutely. You have been a gift to me every day of my life and you have 
brought me thus far. I thank you. Never again will I abandon or betray you. I 
love you absolutely and unconditionally and I will never, never leave you. We 
are together forever, you and I, in this safe and wondrous place and together 
we are coming home. Together we are coming home." And if you would hold that 
baby one until you feel your body soften; until you feel a warmth radiating 
out from your solar plexus - if you would do thusly, the moment that you 
choose from your power and sovereignty in the NOW moment to reach out to that 
baby to embrace, to hold to the breast of you, you are BEING the Goddess or 
the God alchemist. You are changing the frequency of fear and pain to the 
frequency of love and compassion; the frequency of allowance; the frequency of 
open heartedness, where all of the energy centers are open. And in that place 
in the NOW, you are being ALL that you can possibly BE. Does this make sense 
to you? Two tools of transformation. Choose the baby one - that is called 
choosing love. And give thanks each day for WHAT IS. You know beloved ones if 
you could just remember those two very simple things, we promise you that your 
life would transform instantly. Instantly. Without any of the fuss, without 
any of the stories, just being NOW - paying attention - how does it feel? Keep 
it simple. It is, you know. Alright?
 
Group: Yes.
 
P'taah: I knew that.  
Date: Mon, 09 Feb 1998 09:45:46 -0800 
From: Geryl and Mark Waind <gandm.waindATnospamsympatico.ca> 
To: "Jason S. White" <zymphtATnospambluewin.ch> 
CC: Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com> 
Subject: Re: challenge 
Message-ID: <34DF3FEB.4DC4ATnospamsympatico.ca> 
 
Jason S. White wrote: 
>  
> Challenge exists in our lives to make us learn. 
> If we are not pushed beyond our limits, we learn nothing. 
> Controversy can provide the push needed to set up learning. 
> I'm not talking about personal, petty, finger-pointing type of 
> controversy, 
> but the controversy that comes about when the ideals and values of the 
> community change, 
> When those in the community that are changing stand in contrast to 
> those that are not. 
>  
> A spiritual community should be fluid in order to foster learning 
> otherwise it accepts only a narrow range of ideas as valid 
> to the exclusion of those that are controversial. 
> When the community finds itself clinging to ideals and values 
> they should be challenged again and again. 
> If the community clings to its own self-image, 
> it will stagnate, exclude the "outsider" and never see its own 
> delusion. 
>  
> Kundalini awakening, symptoms, chakras, Love, spirituality, God, 
> Goddess 
> are watered down to mere ideas 
> unless they are cultivated in constant challenge. 
> In other words, the idea of them must be made fluid again whenever 
> they become locked in consensus. 
> They are not ideas - they are much, much more. 
>  
> Take note of your convictions. 
> See how they make you selfish, complacent, righteous. 
> See that the expression of Love does not depend on flowery language 
> and niceties. 
> or on any particular way of expression. 
> See the superficial padding in your words 
> See how it obscures what you really think. 
> See how we try to save others from hard feelings by not being 
> truthful. 
> Let them have hard feelings. 
> This is a challenge, a positive push, for you and for them: 
> Success for them means they may struggle, but they hold no resentment 
> and are eventually thankful for the push. 
> Success for you means you will allow them to struggle, you hold no 
> resentment, you don't lock your opinion of them, you allow them the 
> space to change, you are ready to find your own change. 
> We fail to meet the challenge when we are too heavy with selfishness, 
> righteous ideas and complacency to see the multiplicity of the 
> expression of Love. 
>  
> Most of all, have a good laugh. 
> You are nowhere near as important as you think you are. 
>  
Dear Jason: 
 
I couldn't agree with you more and yes I am! Without me and entire 
infinity would be lost!
 
Mark 
Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 09:14:50 -0600 (CST) 
From: "Debora A. Orf" <dorf01ATnospammail.win.org> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com 
Subject: Interesting experience... 
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.980209090404.9829A-100000ATnospamwinc0> 
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
 
Friday nite, like every friday nite near the half moon other friends who 
are also students of the same Lama, we get together & do a meditational 
practise. 
 
There was a new person who was interested in Tibetan stuff and he came to 
check us out. Found out he & i have had some similar experiences. He 
carried a large 'field' with him that was palpable to me. the one thing 
that struck me was his comment to me. "Lady, you have some powerful energy 
here". He's a healer too, and was helping me with a knot of energy i've 
had near my right shoulder since last summer. (it *moved* and i was like 
YAY!)
 
Some of the stories he tells are things i still find 'odd' to hear. They 
havent happened to me, but i wonder now, if its something i'm not open 
too, so it doesnt happen. Or maybe K works differently in a yogini to a 
yogi. i dunno. Maybe its the type of practise one does. 
 
Well now i'm like way curious. Siddhis i've always written off as 
something 'way high practising yogins' experience. certainly not something 
*i* am capable of. 
 
Anyway, enuf rantings on a monday...
 
--janpa tsomo 
Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 10:20:12 EST 
From: RadiantTchATnospamaol.com 
To: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: challenge 
Message-ID: <d0d371af.34df1eaeATnospamaol.com> 
 
<<snip > Most of all, have a good laugh. 
 > You are nowhere near as important as you think you are. 
  
 Dear Jason:  
 I couldn't agree with you more and yes I am! Without me and entire 
 infinity would be lost! 
 Mark >>
 
I SECOND THAT!!!!  :-)))))))))))))))))))))))))
 
<3  BE  <3 
Date: Mon, 09 Feb 1998 16:18:01 +0100 
From: Danijel Turina <dturinaATnospamusa.net> 
To: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: F*** <- censored ;))) 
Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980209161801.00929100ATnospampop.netaddress.com> 
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Hi Barbara! :)
 
At 05:47 1998.02.09 EST, RadiantTchATnospamaol.com wrote: 
>In a message dated 98-02-09 02:02:14 EST, you write: 
> 
><< That is some story Danijel for such a young person.  I'm glad you have 
> found your answers inside and are beginning to find your way into 
> realization. Perhaps you can do away with the f word as you do this. 
> Glad to know you and appreciate your sharing. Gloria 
>  >> 
> 
> 
>Why should he?  I find that word and several others TREMENDOUSLY FUN to 
use at 
>times!!!!  ALL is divine.
 
It always amused me how some people manage to see God in a church but not 
in a public toilet. ;)))))))) ROTFL :)))))))
 
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Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 10:39:52 EST 
From: RadiantTchATnospamaol.com 
To: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: F*** <- censored ;))) 
Message-ID: <9c55e735.34df234aATnospamaol.com> 
 
In a message dated 98-02-09 10:24:04 EST, Danijel writes:
 
<< It always amused me how some people manage to see God in a church but not 
 in a public toilet. ;)))))))) ROTFL :))))))) >>
 
Heeheehee!!!!!!!!!  When I finally figured this out (or awakened to an 
expansion of non-judgement, or HOWEVER you want to word it), I walked around 
smiling for days and days and days!  I'd smile at football coaches yelling and 
screaming the youth league into submission (they THOUGHT, anyway <smirk>); I'd 
smile at the Mom in the store who'd gotten angry and overtaxed with her little 
one, blowing up......EVERYTHING!!!!!!!!!!  LOVE HEALS, so I am sure my 
acceptance of previously non-accepted behaviors helped in each situation I 
encountered.  It certainly helped me to feel safer in this physical world of 
ours.
 
I love your giggly post title!  Feel free to use whatever language suits you 
in the moment when writing to me!  I'll likely jump on the bandwagon with you 
and have a ho-down good time!  ;-))))
 
Love,
 
Barbara Ellen <3 
Date: Mon, 09 Feb 1998 07:52:42 -0800 
From: anandajyoti <anandajyotiATnospamgeocities.com> 
To: Danijel Turina <dturinaATnospamusa.net> 
CC: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re:<- censored ;))) 
Message-ID: <34DF2646.2C93E2B1ATnospamgeocities.com> 
 
Danijel Turina wrote:
 
> >  >> 
> > 
> > 
> It always amused me how some people manage to see God in a church but not 
> in a public toilet. ;)))))))) ROTFL :))))))) 
> Anandajyoti>
 
  Some people live in the present at all times, so they see the toilet as 
toilet and Gos as God. That is the way to live in three dimensions, I think. 
When you become the spirit alone then you are it, there's no toilet, no God, 
Nutta.
 
Anandajyoti 
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/6782 
Date: Mon, 09 Feb 1998 17:04:23 +0100 
From: Danijel Turina <dturinaATnospamusa.net> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com 
Subject: Re:<- censored ;))) 
Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980209170423.00917730ATnospampop.netaddress.com> 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
 
Hi Anandajyoti! :)
 
At 07:52 1998.02.09 -0800, anandajyoti wrote: 
> 
> 
>Danijel Turina wrote: 
> 
>> >  >> 
>> > 
>> > 
>> It always amused me how some people manage to see God in a church but not 
>> in a public toilet. ;)))))))) ROTFL :))))))) 
>> Anandajyoti> 
> 
>  Some people live in the present at all times, so they see the toilet as 
>toilet and Gos as God. That is the way to live in three dimensions, I think.
 
Naaah, I have a better way; see the toilet as toilet and God as God, and I 
Am the Sole Reality. That's the way to live in all the dimensions, I think. 
;))))))
 
>When you become the spirit alone then you are it, there's no toilet, no God, 
>Nutta.
 
You want to say that now I am _not_ the spirit alone? Wow, that hurts! 
;)))))) ROTFL :)))))))))
 
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Date: Mon, 09 Feb 1998 07:13:21 -0900 
From: Charlie & Delisa Renideo <renideoATnospammtaonline.net> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: More info on Kundalini 
Message-ID: <34DF2B20.4002ATnospammtaonline.net> 
 
Please send me more information on kundalini at the follow address: 
renideoATnospammtaonline.net 
 I've experiencing high "energy" surges in the form of body, muscle 
contractions and feel I need more information to be able to channel and 
recycle the energy within, rather than release it physcially in 
uncontrolled spasms. 
 Thanks for any information you can send me. 
     C. Renideo 
Date: Mon, 09 Feb 1998 17:04:07 +0100 
From: Danijel Turina <dturinaATnospamusa.net> 
To: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: F*** <- censored ;))) 
Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980209170407.0095dd50ATnospampop.netaddress.com> 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
 
Hi Barbara! :)
 
At 10:39 1998.02.09 EST, RadiantTchATnospamaol.com wrote: 
>In a message dated 98-02-09 10:24:04 EST, Danijel writes: 
> 
><< It always amused me how some people manage to see God in a church but not 
> in a public toilet. ;)))))))) ROTFL :))))))) >> 
> 
> 
>Heeheehee!!!!!!!!!  When I finally figured this out (or awakened to an 
>expansion of non-judgement, or HOWEVER you want to word it), I walked around 
>smiling for days and days and days!  I'd smile at football coaches yelling 
and 
>screaming the youth league into submission (they THOUGHT, anyway <smirk>); 
I'd 
>smile at the Mom in the store who'd gotten angry and overtaxed with her 
little 
>one, blowing up......EVERYTHING!!!!!!!!!!  LOVE HEALS, so I am sure my 
>acceptance of previously non-accepted behaviors helped in each situation I 
>encountered.  It certainly helped me to feel safer in this physical world of 
>ours.
 
Yes yes yes, my kind of girl! :))) :*** :)))
 
>I love your giggly post title!  Feel free to use whatever language suits you 
>in the moment when writing to me!  I'll likely jump on the bandwagon with you 
>and have a ho-down good time!  ;-))))
 
;)))
 
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E-mail  : dturinaATnospamusa.net 
Homepage: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/1377 
Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 12:11:43 EST 
From: AfperryATnospamaol.com 
To: dturinaATnospamusa.net 
Cc: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re:  F*** <- censored ;))) 
Message-ID: <2c3c97dd.34df38d5ATnospamaol.com> 
 
In a message dated 9/2/98 3:22:22 pm, you wrote:
 
>Why should he?  I find that word and several others TREMENDOUSLY FUN to 
>use at 
>>times!!!!  ALL is divine. 
> 
>It always amused me how some people manage to see God in a church but not 
>in a public toilet. ;)))))))) ROTFL :)))))))
 
Yes, all is Divine. Christ and Krishna are divine, so are Saddam Hussein and 
Hitler. And so is our power of discrimination...................Perhaps I am 
just old-fashioned but I for one find the use of all this coarse language 
somewhat saddening.
 
Blessings, 
Alan
 
 
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