1998/01/30 13:29
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #88
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 88
Today's Topics:
Re: Vegetarian & B12 [ "Orea de Sa' Hana" <oreaATnospamerols.com> ]
vegetarian & B12 [ lafornarATnospamtin.it ]
Re: fighting fear [ nkognito <nkognitoATnospamtcon.net> ]
Re: Desire----was Fear [ nkognito <nkognitoATnospamtcon.net> ]
Chakra Chart [ FIute <FIuteATnospamprodigy.net> ]
Re: Gopi Krishna [ John Lounsberry <berryATnospamcnwl.igs.net ]
Strange things happening... [ Matija Kostevc <drago.kostevcATnospamguest ]
Re: Desire----was Fear [ Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic ]
Re: Gopi Krishna [ John Lounsberry <berryATnospamcnwl.igs.net ]
Re: Gopi Krishna [ John Lounsberry <berryATnospamcnwl.igs.net ]
RE: Vegetarian & B12 [ "barneyATnospamsandside.demon.co.uk" <barn ]
Re: Vegetarian & B12 [ Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com ]
Re: fighting fear [ Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com ]
Re: Vegetarian & B12 [ RadiantTchATnospamaol.com ]
Re: Desire----Was Fear [ hbarrettATnospamix.netcom.com (Holly N. Ba ]
Fwd:re:"don't care" [ "Gloria Lee" <samyanaATnospamhotmail.com> ]
Re: Vegetarian & B12 [ lafornarATnospamtin.it ]
Understanding [ Harsh Luthar <hlutharATnospambryant.edu> ]
Re: Desire----Was Fear [ Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.co ]
Help! [ gwen smythe <gsmtheATnospamyahoo.com> ]
Fwd: Ear Ringing Poll RESULTS [ ThaimiATnospamaol.com ]
Re: Strange things happening... [ Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.co ]
Ear Ringing [ chelseaATnospamsuperaje.com (Dominic & Mau ]
Re: Desire----was Fear [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistres ]
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 16:40:55 -0400
From: "Orea de Sa' Hana" <oreaATnospamerols.com>
To: Kundalini List <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Vegetarian & B12
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I was a vegetarian for about 6 months several years ago. I enjoyed it,
felt good on it. I quit when my body began screaming at me for red
meat. I resisted but could tell eventually this wasn't going to go
away, my body needed something in that steak. But I still think there
is nothing better than a pot of beans and rice!
Blessings,
Orea
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 22:44:14 +0100 (MET)
From: lafornarATnospamtin.it
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: vegetarian & B12
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I've been practising Astang Yoga with an Indian Master for six years,
therefore being strictly vegetarian seemed to be compulsory to me owing
to
the special mudras and pranayamas I was taught.
After three years of rigorous vegerarian diet (even in pregnancy and
brestfeeding), one night I woke up and experimented something very
similar
to what Ann told,and Ifelt exactly the same.
I ate a piece of meat .Moreover, eating that slice,I was able to have a
direct and fulfilling experience of what is called "spontaneous
thanking".
A spontaneous thanking prayer gushed up from my heart,just like I had
removed a stone.I humbly understood that I am nothing more than that
meat
I was eating :one day I will be food for other beings.I fully accepted
this
and blessed the animal for giving me his vital force. When I pondered
about
what happened I came to the conclusion that the strict diet I adopted
eventually made me narrow minded and underhandedly conceived...(and
after
all,aren't plants and vegetables beings as well?) Now I occasionally eat
fish (it seems not to interfere with the practices) and if someone cooks
for me I accept gratefully the meal with all my heart (...and my
senses!)
Love
Virginia
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 17:01:56 -0500
From: nkognito <nkognitoATnospamtcon.net>
To: Yu Zhang <yzhangATnospamcs.ubc.ca>, <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: fighting fear
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Yu Zhang & Harsha,
I'm perplexed by this "don't care" attitude. Could you explain this further.
Love & Light,
Sherry
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 18:10:10 -0500
From: nkognito <nkognitoATnospamtcon.net>
To: "Sharon Webb" <shawebbATnospamyhc.edu>, <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Desire----was Fear
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Greetings David and All
>David Bozzi wrote:
>>>You want to know if thought precedes desire? Let's say Desire always is.
>It is an aspects of Us. In truth, the way we are created is with this
infinite desire forever fulfilled.>
Everywhere I turn it seems that desire gets a bad wrap. There are many
aspects of desire and some are healthy and some are not. If a person
desires things which are unhealthy for the body, the mind or spirit (like
addictions, lust etc.) then I would say that is not a good thing and
harmful for the person. This I think most people with common sense
understand. Unfilled desires cause people frustration, grief, anger and so
forth.
I think God (Creator, Lord, etc, whatever your personal belief and
philosophy) gave us desire for a reason. I am sometimes perplexed by it
myself. Sometimes desires just creep up on you, when you least expect.
Almost as if it is a sort of testing of your resistance to this particular
thing.
I personally believe that the desire to love other people and to love God
is something that God gave us as a natural part of our being. This is just
my belief and many people have disagreed with me. Most of the time I get
the feeling that the people who disagree, think that desire is a bad thing,
that desire creates unhappiness. Like all things in life, we can choose to
create or destroy and I think that desire is no exception.
I think the desire to know God is something we are born with, some people
pursue this and some people don't. I perceive this has a HOLY aspect of
our being. And also I don't see this desire as being something that is a
feeling of lack in me, but rather, desire to be more loving and closer to
God. But then, maybe I'm wrong.
Love and Light,
Sherry
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 17:47:44 -0600
From: FIute <FIuteATnospamprodigy.net>
To: "kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Chakra Chart
Message-ID: <34D11520.6CB3ATnospamprodigy.net>
Does anyone know of a Chakra chart on the net.. pictures type things.
Love,
flute
http://www.create.org/healingarts
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 18:53:47 -0500
From: John Lounsberry <berryATnospamcnwl.igs.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Gopi Krishna
Message-ID: <34D1168A.2B7DATnospamcnwl.igs.net>
> > > Subject: Gopi Krishna
> > > Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 22:33:00 -0500
> > > From: John Lounsberry <berryATnospamcnwl.igs.net>
> >
> > >
> > > For information on Gopi Krishna
> > > > See our Canadian web site at http://stn.net/icr?
> > > There is many articals about Kundalini and articals about his books.
> > > I have personly spent time with Gopi and many of the people that
> > > developed the sight have spent a great deal of time with him.
> > > When we speak of Kundalini it is difficult not to refer to
> > > Gopi Krishna.
> > >
> > > Love John Lounsberry in Canada
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 03:18:35 +0100
From: Matija Kostevc <drago.kostevcATnospamguest.arnes.si>
To: Kundalini Mailing List <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Strange things happening...
Message-ID: <34D1387B.D9319F7ATnospamguest.arnes.si>
Hello :)
There are some strange things happening to me and two of my friends,
lately. Since I only really know one perspective (mine :)), I can only
describe what happened to me; that something very similar had been
happening to my two friends I mentioned, we only found out now; in any
case, we agree about most of the symptomes, though we also describe them
as a bit undescribable too :).
All three of us are great fans of pot-smoking... I don't know how you
will react to this information, but I guess straightness is the only way
here. ;) I myself started about six years ago, at age of 18 (and it was
a straight, sudden decision out of nothing; before that moment, I never
cared about smoking or drinking anything, and I kept my 'intellectual'
pose. ;}). It helped me untangle from my intellectual webbing, and I
opened up a lot during that early phase. Then, another out-of-nothing
decision came to join the local Ki-Aikido club (I guess the best choice
in my life; it's really an enjoying thing). That was three years ago,
and since then, even more changes occured; I always disliked sports when
I was a kid, and didn't care about my body a lot (or at all); now, it's
quite a different story, plus there's loads of weird things happening to
me all the time.
Almost synchronously with joining Aikido, the strange burnings began.
They were always connected with smoking pot, and sometimes they were
extremely unpleasant. The pain was usually centered at the tip of the
breast-bone (the top of the triangle), and it felt very differently at
the same time (buzzing, pinching, burning, pressing, itching), however,
it never interferred with my breathing. At first, I had moments of
terrible panic and paranoia, but I slowly learned to take it peacefully:
usually, the aikido meditations, well, actually simply perceiving
everything with a 'homogenous' mind, reverted the feeling to its
opposite: I had several 'mystical' experiences, actually, several
choppings off the pieces of my fear of death.) There were still moments
when the intensity of the feeling could surprise me and induce panic but
slowly, their number decreased, and I found some ways to relax the
muscles (which seem to be the main cause of the tension); now, I can
totally ignore the 'easy' ones and go through 'heavies' without a stir
(by simply passing the fears go 'through' me, or through the hole I make
in my stomach... um, am I ripe for guys in white? :)). The feeling
remains, though, and more, it spreads, sometimes up the throat,
sometimes all the way to the top of the skull, feeling my head with
pressure and making me feel the insides of all my teeth; it's like if
some charge were burning my bones from the inside, or a cloud of static
trying to break free. Also some muscles are very tense, especially the
neck and the back, and since starting Aikido, I have problems with my
legs (well, actually, I have much less problems than I had before, but
those that remain are much more noticeable now than all of them had been
then. :)), the frequency of lucid dreams increasing geometrically,
everything is growing more and more weird. Before I started with Aikido,
I heard about OBEs and I found the subject very interesting. I never
really worked hard in that direction, because I am lazy, but I pushed an
inch per year and now I even had some of them, in controlled conditions
(cough), not long ago (this all seems to be culminating, somehow). It's
still pretty random, though. Does it have anything to do with itches? I
think it could be somewhat connected, but I dont't know why I think so.
What about the bright white speck in the centre of eyesight that
randomly appears, more and more often, when I 'meditate', eyes closed?
It looks like a star, and it always appears when I am not paying
attention to what I see but when I do pay it attention, it always fades.
I hope reading my cv wasn't too tiresome for you all. I am simply
confused. Maybe I and my two friends are going pot-crazy, but since the
symptomes match somewhat with what I read on the Kundalini page, I
decided to ask and see. Especially, I would like to know if I am
overhasting things; I am not a very regular practitioner (laziness), but
I do practise and experiment a lot in bed (some experiments turn out
bad, some frightening, some extatic, and some blissful, so there's
definitelly balance) before I fall asleep and before I get up. Does
anyone have an advice?
Thanks and have fun,
Matija.
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 20:27:49 -0600
From: Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Desire----was Fear
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>David Bozzi wrote:
>>>You want to know if thought precedes desire?
>Let's say Desire always is.
>It is an aspects of Us.
>In truth, the way we are created is with this infinite desire forever
>[un?] fulfilled.>>
>
>Sharon Webb:
>I'm not so sure about this, David. We don't desire that which we have not
>yet perceived. I would say that in this chicken/egg question that
>perception precedes desire.
Ann: Or emotion precedes perception, at least part of the time. Do you
ever just feel depressed and then start looking for reasons why?
When I was a kid, once in a while I'd say to my mother, "I just feel like
lying on the floor and crying, but I don't know why." And she'd say,
"Well, go ahead." So I'd lie on the floor and kick and scream and cry.
And then I felt fine and went outdoors to play.
Ever want something and try to figure out what it is? It's like being
hungry and wondering what you want to eat.
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 22:52:37 -0500
From: John Lounsberry <berryATnospamcnwl.igs.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Gopi Krishna
Message-ID: <34D14E85.5478ATnospamcnwl.igs.net>
John Lounsberry wrote:
>
> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Subject: Gopi Krishna
> > > Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 22:33:00 -0500
> > > From: John Lounsberry <berryATnospamcnwl.igs.net>
> >
> > >
> > > For information on Gopi Krishna
> > > > See our Canadian web site at http://stn.net/icr?
> > > There is many articals about Kundalini and articals about his books.
> > > I have personly spent time with Gopi and many of the people that
> > > developed the sight have spent a great deal of time with him.
> > > When we speek of Kundalini it is difficult not to refer to
> > > Gopi Krishna.
> > >
> > > Love John Lounsberry in Canada
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 22:54:00 -0500
From: John Lounsberry <berryATnospamcnwl.igs.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Gopi Krishna
Message-ID: <34D14ED8.7742ATnospamcnwl.igs.net>
> > > Subject: Gopi Krishna
> > > Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 22:33:00 -0500
> > > From: John Lounsberry <berryATnospamcnwl.igs.net>
> >
> > >
> > > For information on Gopi Krishna
> > > > See our Canadian web site at http://stn.net/icr?
> > > There is many articals about Kundalini and articals about his books.
> > > I have personly spent time with Gopi and many of the people that
> > > developed the sight have spent a great deal of time with him.
> > > When we speek of Kundalini it is difficult not to refer to
> > > Gopi Krishna.
> > >
> > > Love John Lounsberry in Canada
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 04:09:33 -0000
From: "barneyATnospamsandside.demon.co.uk" <barneyATnospamsandside.demon.co.uk>
To: "'kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com'" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: RE: Vegetarian & B12
Message-ID: <01BD2D34.E02348C0ATnospamsandside.demon.co.uk>
You say we can't digest plant matter but that's why we cook it.
To break down the cellulose,
release nutrients, etc. A fine art admittedly - too little heat
, not enough nutrients. Too much heat - an un-nutritional stodge.
Not anything to do with k really. But the obvious seemed to get
missed along the line somewhere.
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From: Mystress Angelique Serpent[SMTP:mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com]
Sent: 29 January 1998 12:16
To: Ann Morrison Fisher
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Vegetarian & B12
Hello, unhappy vegans:
I admit to being a cowtown steak on the bar-b carnivore. I crave it, and
understood my craving better, after discovering how difficult it is for
humans to digest plant fibre.
Most animals that are vegetarian, have developed intestinal structures to
break down cellulose, from which the cell walls of plants are made. 4
chambered stomach and fermentation for hooved mammals, birds and lizards
have rocks in their gizzard.. as do some fish. We have only our teeth, and
our ability to cook, with which to break open the plant cells to we can get
the water borne nutrients from inside. We have to grind our grains, and
cook them till the starch in the cells explodes, to get food value out of
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 23:14:44 EST
From: Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com
To: lafornarATnospamtin.it, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Vegetarian & B12
Message-ID: <59020543.34d153b6ATnospamaol.com>
In a message dated 98-01-29 15:07:47 EST, lafornarATnospamtin.it writes:
<< When I pondered about
what happened I came to the conclusion that the strict diet I adopted
eventually made me narrow minded and underhandedly conceived...(and after
all,aren't plants and vegetables beings as well?) Now I occasionally eat
fish (it seems not to interfere with the practices) and if someone cooks
for me I accept gratefully the meal with all my heart (...and my senses!)
Love
Virginia >>
Harsha writes with a smile: Diet is certainly an individual thing and you
should eat what suits you and what is good for you. However, a Vegetarian diet
has no power to make anyone narrow minded and underhanded as you seem to
suggest. I am glad, after a change in diet, you are now more broad
minded...etc. (and hopefully have gained other virtues as well).
With great love in my Heart for All.... (and laughter in my belly)......Harsha
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 23:29:41 EST
From: Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com
To: nkognitoATnospamtcon.net, yzhangATnospamcs.ubc.ca, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: fighting fear
Message-ID: <35271cea.34d15737ATnospamaol.com>
In a message dated 98-01-29 18:16:54 EST, nkognitoATnospamtcon.net writes:
<< Yu Zhang & Harsha,
I'm perplexed by this "don't care" attitude. Could you explain this further.
Love & Light,
Sherry >>
Harsha writes: Do not be perplexed, O.K. Don't care! Does this require further
explanation? Yu - You go ahead and explain (unless of course you don't
care!)......
With love in my heart and a smile on my lips.....Harsha
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 06:10:00 EST
From: RadiantTchATnospamaol.com
To: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Vegetarian & B12
Message-ID: <98955548.34d1b50bATnospamaol.com>
<< Harsha writes with a smile: Diet is certainly an individual thing and you
should eat what suits you and what is good for you. However, a Vegetarian
diet
has no power to make anyone narrow minded and underhanded as you seem to
suggest. I am glad, after a change in diet, you are now more broad
minded...etc. (and hopefully have gained other virtues as well).
With great love in my Heart for All.... (and laughter in my
belly)......Harsha >>
Yes, I agree with you, Harsha. The diet does not have the power to "make"
anyone narrow minded and underhanded. However, the diet proved to be a great
metaphor for this person to see a particular type of thinking and behaving
that wasn't particularly what was wanted. The physical change in diet (or
change in posture, habitual movements, ANY routine etc.) does indeed help the
body and mind release old patterns and expand into more "openness" to new
ideas, different realities, etc. from the physical on "up." My
perspective.......
Blessings,
Barbara Ellen
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 07:39:12 -0600 (CST)
From: hbarrettATnospamix.netcom.com (Holly N. Barrett, Ph.D.)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Desire----Was Fear
Message-Id: <199801301339.HAA15049ATnospamdfw-ix2.ix.netcom.com>
I think Sherry is right, desire is built in. And almost any longing,
taken far enough, deep enough and consciously enough can lead to God.
Whyever would we look for the divine, otherwise?! I am getting married
today and am especially thoughtful about how desire opens up into
revelation. Love, Holly
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 06:07:16 PST
From: "Gloria Lee" <samyanaATnospamhotmail.com>
To: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Fwd:re:"don't care"
Message-ID: <19980130140717.15842.qmailATnospamhotmail.com>
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Gloria Lee here..This just popped into my email from elsewhere..try to
look at the "don't care" this way.. for another perspective..sometimes
we just get too caught up in the "efforting" of our search and presume
that it is all up to us to discover the way ..and then when you stop
trying so hard ...you are free to notice what is always there??? As in
the journey IS the destination..so the less attention you pay to what
you THINK is supposed to be the desired outcome..the more free you are
to just allow spontaneous awareness and see you are already in the Tao..
the Tao has you. (Harsha could explain this much better, but he knows
better than to try..)
>
>Hi!
>
>I have a thought.
>
>If you're searching for Tao, it is hiding,
>If you don't care it is just behind you.
>
>You won't reach the Tao in a search.
>You won't free from Tao in a denial.
>
>Your development is in progress, but you can oversee it's processing.
>
>You are moving, but not in the way you expect.
>
>Andrzej.
>
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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 15:32:47 +0100 (MET)
From: lafornarATnospamtin.it
To: Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Vegetarian & B12
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Dear Harsha,
understanding what really suits you when your are following a strict discipline can be very hard (not impossible). What I wrote was simply an experience of mine, concerning only my personality and nature.
It wasn't my intention to make judgements or to give advices.
(..I think laughter is a wonderful blessing. I'm happy for you.)
Love
Virginia
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 11:11:16 -0500
From: Harsh Luthar <hlutharATnospambryant.edu>
To: Ed Arrons <eeaATnospamaug.com>, lodpressATnospamintercomm.com,
anandajyoti <anandajyotiATnospamgeocities.com>,
FRANCES G GRISSOM <SMARTDOLPHINATnospamprodigy.net>,
Ruth Trimble <trimbleATnospamhawaii.edu>, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com,
heartzenATnospamlistserv.servtech.com
Subject: Understanding
Message-ID: <34D1FBA3.9C68EEFEATnospambryant.edu>
Harsha writes: I just came across a simple but beautiful passage (from Atma
Vidya...Sage of Arunachala).
It states: "When you have not understood yourself, what is the point in understanding
other things? When you have understood yourself, what else is there to understand?
> Harsha writes: Some say that Reality is Subjective, some say it is Objective and
> > some say it is both Objective and Subjective and some say it is neither. Some say
> > the the Final State is that of Pure Existence, some say it is Only Pure
> > Non-Existence and some say It is beyond both Existence and Non-Existence. No
> > matter, how clever the terminology and how subtle the expression of the
> > experience of the Self, it misses the mark. It is because the Self has no point
> > of Reference in experience being *It Self* the very Foundation on which All
> > experience appears to take place..
>
> Harsha
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 09:57:11 +0100
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
To: "Holly N. Barrett, Ph.D." <hbarrettATnospamix.netcom.com>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Desire----Was Fear
Message-ID: <34D195E4.6744ATnospamintercomm.com>
Holly N. Barrett, Ph.D. wrote:
> I am getting married
> today and am especially thoughtful about how desire opens up into
> revelation. Love, Holly
Congratulations Holly, hope this is a wonderful experience all around.
GG
--
Enter The Silence to Know God ... and... accept life as the teacher.
Gloria Joy Greco
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&
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Hope you enjoy them!
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 10:42:33 -0800 (PST)
From: gwen smythe <gsmtheATnospamyahoo.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Help!
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Hi,
I'm new to the list and I am presently going through a kundalini
experience. I was wondering what to do or
who I could speak with? Also are there any exercises I could do to
help deal with all this energy more safely or things I should be
watching out for?
Any replys would be reallly appreciated,
Thanks,
Jen
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To: SchrLLATnospamaol.com
Subject: Re: Ear Ringing Poll RESULTS
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 10:23:26 EST
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Hi, due to some language insecurities, I have been just a quiet reader. I've
been listed for about two weeks now and I find all the information very
interesting and useful.
I like to point out that I have experience the ear ringing but that often. But
what I am really curious about is if anybody is experiencing as if somebody is
blowing in their ears. I have the feeling as if someone in the middle on the
night usually around 3:00am blows in my ear.
The first experience I had, I felt the presence of an etheric entity running
off after he/she had woke me up with such a strong blow. It was kind of
painful. Now I have a sensation that it is still happening but it doesn't seem
painful anymore.
Anyone have an input on this?
Thank you.
Thaimi
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 11:08:51 +0100
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
To: drago.kostevcATnospamguest.arnes.si
CC: Kundalini Mailing List <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Strange things happening...
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Matija Kostevc wrote:
>
> Hello :)
>
>
> All three of us are great fans of pot-smoking... I don't know how you
> will react to this information, but I guess straightness is the only way
> here. ;) I myself started about six years ago, at age of 18 (and it was
> a straight, sudden decision out of nothing; before that moment, I never
> cared about smoking or drinking anything, and I kept my 'intellectual'
> pose. ;}).
You brought up laziness a couple of times in your letter, I would advise
that if possible you restrain from pot...that is if you are working
spiritually to obtain purification for kundalini. The nervous system and
the process that one experiences in awakening will give you every
opportunity to experience life in the most wonderful way possible, and
one has to have all of his/her ability to focus so that the inner
process will do the work of releasing you from the knots that bind. GG
--
Enter The Silence to Know God ... and... accept life as the teacher.
Gloria Joy Greco
e-mail me at : lodpressATnospamintercomm.com and visit our homepages at:
http://users.intercomm.com/larryn/
&
http://www.freeyellow.com/members/zg888/
Hope you enjoy them!
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 14:09:20 -0500
From: chelseaATnospamsuperaje.com (Dominic & Maureen Marando)
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Ear Ringing
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I know this comes late but I was knocked off due to ice storm and missed the
poll.
I would also like to hear the results of the poll if anyone would reply!
My two cents:
Ear-ringing began with first pregnancy as far as I can remember and my first
birth seems to have been a trigger of kundalini.
Since then I ALWAYS have ringing in my left ear.....it is constant so I
don't notice it unless I listen to it or I'm just used to it.
Had ears checked by doctor....nothing wrong.
If I meditate or concentrate on it it gets louder...and it gets extrememly
loud before mystical experiences, and can change to loud rushing, buzzing
grinding etc. depending on the experience I am about to have!
Peace
Mo
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 12:18:05
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic.net>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Desire----was Fear
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Hello Ladies, and All:
I think David is right.. passion Is.. we apply it to different things,
but it is a part of us that comes from under conscious thought. Like the
cosmic loneliness that makes us reach for love. It is a part of our innate
being. Unfulfillment is part of the illusion. To make us reach for more.
Blessings, Mystress.
>>David Bozzi wrote:
>>>>You want to know if thought precedes desire?
>>Let's say Desire always is.
>>It is an aspects of Us.
>>In truth, the way we are created is with this infinite desire forever
>>[un?] fulfilled.>>
>>
Mystress Angelique Serpent,
Dominant Experiential Facilitator.
Website= http://www.domin8rex.com/serpent
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than live in a world so small that my mind could comprehend it.
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