1998/01/29 14:38
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #87
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 87
Today's Topics:
Re: fighting fear [ Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic ]
Re: Sharing my experience with "Tita [ RadiantTch <RadiantTchATnospamaol.com> ]
numbers and nadis [ Antoine <acarreATnospamconcentric.net> ]
Quote of the day [ Jim Cook <jimcATnospamsonic.net> ]
Vegetarian & B12 [ Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic ]
Re: Fear [ Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic ]
Re: Worsening symptoms was unidentif [ Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.co ]
Re: Unidentified subject! [ Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.co ]
Ear Ringing [ chelseaATnospamsuperaje.com (Dominic & Mau ]
Desire----was Fear [ "Sharon Webb" <shawebbATnospamyhc.edu> ]
Re: Worsening symptoms was unidentif [ "Larry Schmitz" <taniaATnospamcentroin.com ]
Re: Vegetarian & B12 [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistres ]
Re: Vegetarian & B12 [ lafornarATnospamtin.it (by way of Mystress ]
Fw: Worsening symptoms was unidentif [ "Larry Schmitz" <taniaATnospamcentroin.com ]
Re: Worsening symptoms [ Solar Lion <gtaATnospamcwnet.com> ]
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 03:57:17 -0600
From: Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: fighting fear
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Blythe <merlinATnospampnn.com> wrote:
>....He told us to
>consciously open our bellies and heart to pull in all the vituperation and
>hate, raising it up our spines and out the top to offer it with all our love
>to *-----*. Opening to the dark side of this woman, rather than trying to
>protect ourselves and close it out, removed all power from what our crew
>boss was hurling at us. We both wound up higher than kites, alight with
>loving *----*, and riding on that energy. The more furious our crewboss
>became at us, the more blissed out on *----* we were. Our crew boss never
>stopped hating our presence in her life, but rather than continue to try to
>make our lives miserable, she moved to a different crew.
>Opening up to another's hatred was scarey at first. It is still very hard
>for me to remember to do, especially if I am surprised by yuck. It surely
>works though.
It works for other emotions, too. And when someone close to you is
suffering from emotional overload - worry and fear, for instance, about
something that can't be changed at the moment - you can help, if it seems
best, by identifying with the person and running their solar plexus energy
through your solar plexus, separating out the bad (fear-based) stuff and
shooting it out the top of your head to return to source, and returning the
"cleaned-up" energy.
Ann
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 06:41:28 EST
From: RadiantTch <RadiantTchATnospamaol.com>
To: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Sharing my experience with "Titanic" Ego/God/Goddess/Whole
Message-ID: <731ed67c.34d06aeaATnospamaol.com>
In a message dated 98-01-29 06:07:15 EST, Ann writes:
<< Beautiful, Barbara Ellen! So much to come from a movie - but you must have
been working on it for some time.
BE>>Yes, absolutely. The "knowing" became more gut level than intellectual;
deeper, or higher, if you know what I mean. Language s*cks sometimes! ;-)
Okay, I absorbed more of an experience, how's that? :-)
BE previously wrote>>>And I'm
>learning to remember that in moments of crisis, where an aspect is
reflecting
>that seems dark and fearful. Very helpful in shining light on those little
>dark, fearful reflections!
>
>When I get the mirror image of those dark places, I try not to identify with
>them, or live them (deny them, NO; acknowledge them, YES - that is different
>than "living" them), knowing that they are not fully who I am, just there to
>show me where I need to add light. Sometimes, I can go right "up" into the
>totality of me, and see/know the big picture, which helps the aspect
transform
>into light. But sometimes, the aspect has a stronger "pull" on me, and I
need
>to express it (it must be an aspect that has been previously denied,
>suppressed and really cries out to be heard) - rather than expressing it
>directly to the other person involved, I do seperate anger/fear work first,
to
>let the steam out of the boiling kettle. THEN I can speak with the person
>involved from a loving, gentle space, so that we can come to come to
>understand one another.
Ann: Works a lot better than trying to suppress or repress the anger, doesn't
it?
BE>>Yes, and works better than a rip roarin' fight with someone too - no
damage control or clean up. Still learning/experiencing that love is who we
are.......
Thanks, Ann.
Barbara Ellen
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 06:54:31 -0500
From: Antoine <acarreATnospamconcentric.net>
To: "Mailing list (Kundalini)" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: numbers and nadis
Message-ID: <34D06DF7.D8A99249ATnospamconcentric.net>
anandajyoti wrote:
> Although Muktananda was a great person, inspite of what his book says about
> 720 million nadis, I would like to point out to the list, that in Hatha Yoga
> Pradipika, which is the basic text for such information and the original
> about the numbers of nadis etc. the number is 720 thousand not million. It
> could have been a typo in Muktananda's Book.
I'm curious about the difference, between millions and thousands... I
know some
people are conscious enought to grab the number of pore they have on
their skin.
Wonder if any one here as enought "consciousness" to know the number of
nadis he
or she as at a particular level of perception.
How many roots those have a tree?
Love
Antoine
--
May the God of light grant to us sight! May the heavenly peaks grant to
us
sight! May God the creator grant to us sight! Give sight to our eyes and
sight
to our bodies that we may see. May we see the world at a single glance
and in
all its details.
Rig Veda 10.158.3-4, Vedic Experience p. 340-341
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 05:48:18 -0800
From: Jim Cook <jimcATnospamsonic.net>
To: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Quote of the day
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"Children are natural mimics.
They act like their parents in spite
of every attempt to teach them
good manners."
Benzini
"Careful with that box Pandora"
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 08:39:21 -0600
From: Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Vegetarian & B12
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PEGLUMPKINATnospamaol.com wrote:
>
>You can also determine mineral levels through a blood screen. I recently had
>one done and found that following a vegan diet had left me low on many
>minerals, including iron, magnesium, calcium, zinc, and even sodium. I'm now
>on vitamin, mineral and electrolyte replacement, guzzling milk and eggs
>(choke) and even salting my food (gag). But I have to admit I'm feeling
>better. I'm supposed to be eating lots of fish and poultry ("foul"), but it's
>hard changing habits.
Just a note of warning to all you vegetarians: it is possible for the body
to change so that you no longer utilize B12 from non-meat sources.
I was vegetarian for eight years. The doctor agreed that I was cooking the
right way and was getting plenty of B12, etc. But after eight years I was
suffering from pernicious anemia, which comes from a B12 deficiency. I was
getting a B12 shot once a week. I felt good for a couple of days, then
started downhill, and by the end of the week I was totally exhausted -
dragged myself out for another shot.
One day I was thinking about vegetarians I'd heard of who had B12
deficiencies - I'd always thought they didn't know how to cook right. But
I thought, what if something can change in the body so the B12 from plants
and eggs isn't utilized? I was exhausted that day, and on the way home I
bought a can of tuna fish. I ate it, and it was just like having a shot of
B12. So now I eat meat because my body seems to need it.
The same thing happened to a friend of mine after she'd been vegetarian for
16 years!
Ann
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 07:49:12 -0600
From: Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Fear
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>> Anandajyoti > I may have a fear of sitting for an exam, but this fear
>> manifests in my consciousness as thought. I am able to know this emotion of
>> fear,
>> through thought.
>>
>> David > I've never known emotion through thinking.
>
>Anandajyoti> I would invite the experiences of others in the list also , on
>this point raised by David.
Ann: I don't think we always know emotions through thinking, but I can
imagine circumstances in which this would be true. If an exam is
approaching and I start having thoughts of why I can't be there to take it,
then I may realize that there is fear behind these thoughts. So I come to
know the fear through thought.
Anandajyoti, is it possible that you mean something different by these
words than we do? Do you think of emotions as a kind of thinking,
kama-manas? While we are thinking of emotions and thought as completely
different?
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 09:59:56 +0100
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
To: anandajyoti <anandajyotiATnospamgeocities.com>
CC: Susan Carlson <divine_goddessATnospamhotmail.com>, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Worsening symptoms was unidentified subject
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anandajyoti wrote:
>
> Susan Carlson wrote:
>
> > Carl wrote:
> > With that phenomenon came a surge of worsening symptoms of 2
> > chronic
> > illnesses that I have had for 11 years: multiple sclerosis and
> > rheumatoid
> > arthritis. I now have so much pain and disability that I am
> > nearly
> > crippled. All this after a few years of managing really well.
> >
>
> Anandajyoti>
>
> > Hello Carl !
>
> With your symptoms of MS and Rheumatism I would suggest you drop a note of
> your current condition, your blood tests results , your weight , age and
> height to Dr.. Dave Mirkin Box 10, Kensington Maryland, USA 98025 with a
> prepaid stamped envelope. He will definitely be able to guide you in the
> right direction, in regard to your physical body.
> I would also suggest that you should forget K and Meditation for the time
> being till your body is up to par and to your satisfaction.
>
> > Susan Wrote>
> > Hi Carl,
> >
> > Muktananada writes in Kundalini:The Secret of Life..."In the form of
> > prana(the vital force of the body and the universe) She penetrates all
> > 720 million nadis (subtle energy channels in the body),
>
> Anandajyoti>
> Although Muktananda was a great person, inspite of what his book says about
> 720 million nadis, I would like to point out to the list, that in Hatha Yoga
> Pradipika, which is the basic text for such information and the original
> about the numbers of nadis etc. the number is 720 thousand not million. It
> could have been a typo in Muktananda's Book.
GG
I wondered about that. Thanks. And, I do agree unless he is really
advanced in detachment it is probably better to pull back and see what
state the body is in. Kundalini will certainly stir the pot and while it
would take it to a positive outcome eventually the body may not be
prepared for the ride. GG
>
> Ananadajyoti
> http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/6782
--
Enter The Silence to Know God ... and... accept life as the teacher.
Gloria Joy Greco
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Hope you enjoy them!
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 09:57:11 +0100
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
To: PEGLUMPKINATnospamaol.com
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Unidentified subject!
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PEGLUMPKINATnospamaol.com wrote:
>
> In a message dated 98-01-28 14:20:31 EST, you write:
>
> << I would also suggest if you can get a hair analysis done, this actually
> looks at the minerals, toxins etc in your body. >>
>
> You can also determine mineral levels through a blood screen. I recently had
> one done and found that following a vegan diet had left me low on many
> minerals, including iron, magnesium, calcium, zinc, and even sodium. I'm now
> on vitamin, mineral and electrolyte replacement, guzzling milk and eggs
> (choke) and even salting my food (gag). But I have to admit I'm feeling
> better. I'm supposed to be eating lots of fish and poultry ("foul"), but it's
> hard changing habits.
>
> Peg
The books I've read say that the blood won't pick up a lot of it, the
reason the hair holds it is because it is stored in the hair for several
months normally where as the blood changes as it is processed through.
GG
--
Enter The Silence to Know God ... and... accept life as the teacher.
Gloria Joy Greco
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&
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Hope you enjoy them!
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 13:34:54 -0500
From: chelseaATnospamsuperaje.com (Dominic & Maureen Marando)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Ear Ringing
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I know this comes late but I was knocked off due to ice storm and missed the
poll.
I would also like to hear the results of the poll if anyone would reply!
My two cents:
Ear-ringing began with first pregnancy as far as I can remember and my first
birth seems to have been a trigger of kundalini.
Since then I ALWAYS have ringing in my left ear.....it is constant so I
don't notice it unless I listen to it or I'm just used to it.
Had ears checked by doctor....nothing wrong.
If I meditate or concentrate on it it gets louder...and it gets extrememly
loud before mystical experiences, and can change to loud rushing, buzzing
grinding etc. depending on the experience I am about to have!
Peace
Mo
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 13:40:32 -0500
From: "Sharon Webb" <shawebbATnospamyhc.edu>
To: <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Desire----was Fear
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David Bozzi wrote:
>>You want to know if thought precedes desire?
Let's say Desire always is.
It is an aspects of Us.
In truth, the way we are created is with this infinite desire forever
fulfilled.>>
I'm not so sure about this, David. We don't desire that which we have not
yet perceived. I would say that in this chicken/egg question that
perception precedes desire.
Sharon
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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 17:42:33 -0200
From: "Larry Schmitz" <taniaATnospamcentroin.com.br>
To: <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>, "anandajyoti" <anandajyotiATnospamgeocities.com>
Cc: "Susan Carlson" <divine_goddessATnospamhotmail.com>, <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Worsening symptoms was unidentified subject
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Dear Contributors,
Has anyone questioned whether Carl was intaking enough water?
There is a simple formula to measure if one is drinking enough
water each day: (body weight (lbs.) / 2 = no. of ounces of water which
one should drink. In any energy work, there is much cleansing going on
in the body, which needs to be eliminated.
love,
Larry Schmitz (a 55 yr. old neophyte in "K")
-----Original Message-----
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
To: anandajyoti <anandajyotiATnospamgeocities.com>
Cc: Susan Carlson <divine_goddessATnospamhotmail.com>; kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
<kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Date: Thursday, January 29, 1998 4:03 PM
Subject: Re: Worsening symptoms was unidentified subject
>anandajyoti wrote:
>>
>> Susan Carlson wrote:
>>
>> > Carl wrote:
>> > With that phenomenon came a surge of worsening symptoms of 2
>> > chronic
>> > illnesses that I have had for 11 years: multiple sclerosis and
>> > rheumatoid
>> > arthritis. I now have so much pain and disability that I am
>> > nearly
>> > crippled. All this after a few years of managing really well.
>> >
>>
>> Anandajyoti>
>>
>> > Hello Carl !
>>
>> With your symptoms of MS and Rheumatism I would suggest you drop a note
of
>> your current condition, your blood tests results , your weight , age and
>> height to Dr.. Dave Mirkin Box 10, Kensington Maryland, USA 98025 with a
>> prepaid stamped envelope. He will definitely be able to guide you in the
>> right direction, in regard to your physical body.
>> I would also suggest that you should forget K and Meditation for the time
>> being till your body is up to par and to your satisfaction.
>>
>> > Susan Wrote>
>> > Hi Carl,
>> >
>> > Muktananada writes in Kundalini:The Secret of Life..."In the form of
>> > prana(the vital force of the body and the universe) She penetrates all
>> > 720 million nadis (subtle energy channels in the body),
>>
>> Anandajyoti>
>> Although Muktananda was a great person, inspite of what his book says
about
>> 720 million nadis, I would like to point out to the list, that in Hatha
Yoga
>> Pradipika, which is the basic text for such information and the original
>> about the numbers of nadis etc. the number is 720 thousand not million.
It
>> could have been a typo in Muktananda's Book.
>
>GG
>I wondered about that. Thanks. And, I do agree unless he is really
>advanced in detachment it is probably better to pull back and see what
>state the body is in. Kundalini will certainly stir the pot and while it
>would take it to a positive outcome eventually the body may not be
>prepared for the ride. GG
>>
>> Ananadajyoti
>> http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/6782
>
>--
>
>Enter The Silence to Know God ... and... accept life as the teacher.
>Gloria Joy Greco
> e-mail me at : lodpressATnospamintercomm.com and visit our homepages at:
>http://users.intercomm.com/larryn/
>&
>http://www.freeyellow.com/members/zg888/
>Hope you enjoy them!
>
>
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 12:16:19
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic.net>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Vegetarian & B12
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At 08:39 29/01/98 -0600, Ann Morrison Fisher wrote:
>Just a note of warning to all you vegetarians: it is possible for the body
>to change so that you no longer utilize B12 from non-meat sources.
>
Hello, unhappy vegans:
I admit to being a cowtown steak on the bar-b carnivore. I crave it, and
understood my craving better, after discovering how difficult it is for
humans to digest plant fibre.
Most animals that are vegetarian, have developed intestinal structures to
break down cellulose, from which the cell walls of plants are made. 4
chambered stomach and fermentation for hooved mammals, birds and lizards
have rocks in their gizzard.. as do some fish. We have only our teeth, and
our ability to cook, with which to break open the plant cells to we can get
the water borne nutrients from inside. We have to grind our grains, and
cook them till the starch in the cells explodes, to get food value out of
them. Unchewed corn is undigested corn. Juicers are better yet, but we need
some cellulose to be healthy and regular.
A cow is a machine that makes grass edible.. we are at the top of the
food chain, and that's just where we are. That is how we are made.
Gaia doesn't mind our eating animals.. life eats life, even plants digest
bacteria, and compete fiercely for sunlight. It is a life and death
struggle, going on as quietly as shade from trees killing grass. I can talk
to plants and hear their conversation easier than I can talk to animals..
but I eat plants, anyways.. this is the wheel.
Ever wonder why there are so few bones and antlers in the forest? It is
because the mice and rabbits gnaw them away, for the calcium and minerals.
On the other hand, we digest animal protiens quite efficiently,
especially if the fibres are broken a bit first down by cooking and
chewing, to allow the digestive enzymes to saturate them more efficiently.
Digesting protien requires calcium to strip off the nitrogen, and silica to
move the calcium.
Stress changes the calcuim balance and body Ph, and makes protien harder
to digest.. partly undigested protiens in the bloodstream are mistaken for
viruses, and trigger allergic reactions.. more stress.
Feeding the Snake:
You will find it easier to eat meat, if you bless it first, and offer
gratitude. No joke. Do this with everything you eat or drink. It will alter
the vibration of the food, to make it more nutritous and digestible. Even
water, tastes much different if you take a moment to hold it in your hands
and think, with love and gratitude of how it will cleanse and support you,
by becoming a part of you. However temporarily.
Here is a cooking secret from Mystress, who is known far and wide as a
fabulous cook.
Put Love into the food. Love is the energy of life, and the body knows it
and recognises it and sends "delicous, have some more!" signals to the brain.
Offer blessings and gratitude as you cook, before you devour. If you
often cook for other people, try it with a dish you think they are slightly
bored of, for an experiment.
Thank Goddess for the blessings of food, and if an animal died for your
dinner, offer gratitude to it's Deva for the gift of it's body for your
nourishment.
All things must die sometime. Those grains of rice in your veggie
stir-fry will never know the joy of sprouting green shoots and having thier
promise of fertility fulfulled. Except through you, and what you do with
the stored fuel they offer.
If the animal died unhappy, and you can feel the vibration of it's tiny
cage, then offer it even more love. Offer some love to the persons who put
it in the cage, too. They need it. That includes yourself, thru the
economic process.
Then eat it with joy, and appreciation, so it's sacrifice is not in
vain. It died so you may live healthy to give love back to the Earth.
Blessed be!
You will find that much of the "heavy" feeling that you associate with
eating meat, lifts.. because you have released the fear from the food,
before you eat it. Swallowing negative opinions and energy with your food,
makes it harder to digest.
Blessings, Mystress.
> But
>I thought, what if something can change in the body so the B12 from plants
>and eggs isn't utilized? I was exhausted that day, and on the way home I
>bought a can of tuna fish. I ate it, and it was just like having a shot of
>B12. So now I eat meat because my body seems to need it.
>
>The same thing happened to a friend of mine after she'd been vegetarian for
>16 years!
>
>Ann
>
>
>
>
>
>
Mystress Angelique Serpent,
Dominant Experiential Facilitator.
Website= http://www.domin8rex.com/serpent
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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 13:06:49
From: lafornarATnospamtin.it (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Vegetarian & B12
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<List Mystress to Virginia: you sent this to the -request address, not
the posting address. I redirected it.. funny, we said almost the same thing!>
I've been practising Astang Yoga with an Indian Master for six years,
therefore being strictly vegetarian seemed to be compulsory to me owing to
the special mudras and pranayamas I was taught.
After three years of rigorous vegerarian diet (even in pregnancy and
brestfeeding), one night I woke up and experimented something very similar
to what Ann told,and Ifelt exactly the same.
I ate a piece of meat .Moreover, eating that slice,I was able to have a
direct and fulfilling experience of what is called "spontaneous thanking".
A spontaneous thanking prayer gushed up from my heart,just like I had
removed a stone.I humbly understood that I am nothing more than that meat
I was eating :one day I will be food for other beings.I fully accepted this
and blessed the animal for giving me his vital force. When I pondered about
what happened I came to the conclusion that the strict diet I adopted
eventually made me narrow minded and underhandedly conceived...(and after
all,aren't plants and vegetables beings as well?) Now I occasionally eat
fish (it seems not to interfere with the practices) and if someone cooks
for me I accept gratefully the meal with all my heart (...and my senses!)
Love
Virginia
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 19:04:14 -0200
From: "Larry Schmitz" <taniaATnospamcentroin.com.br>
To: <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Fw: Worsening symptoms was unidentified subject
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>Dear Contributors,
>Has anyone questioned whether Carl was intaking enough water?
>There is a simple formula to measure if one is drinking enough
>water each day: (body weight (lbs.) / 2 = no. of ounces of water which
>one should drink. In any energy work, there is much cleansing going on
>in the body, which needs to be eliminated.
>
>love,
>
>Larry Schmitz (a 55 yr. old neophyte in "K")
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
>To: anandajyoti <anandajyotiATnospamgeocities.com>
>Cc: Susan Carlson <divine_goddessATnospamhotmail.com>; kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
><kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
>Date: Thursday, January 29, 1998 4:03 PM
>Subject: Re: Worsening symptoms was unidentified subject
>
>
>>anandajyoti wrote:
>>>
>>> Susan Carlson wrote:
>>>
>>> > Carl wrote:
>>> > With that phenomenon came a surge of worsening symptoms of 2
>>> > chronic
>>> > illnesses that I have had for 11 years: multiple sclerosis and
>>> > rheumatoid
>>> > arthritis. I now have so much pain and disability that I am
>>> > nearly
>>> > crippled. All this after a few years of managing really well.
>>> >
>>>
>>> Anandajyoti>
>>>
>>> > Hello Carl !
>>>
>>> With your symptoms of MS and Rheumatism I would suggest you drop a
>note
>of
>>> your current condition, your blood tests results , your weight , age
>and
>>> height to Dr.. Dave Mirkin Box 10, Kensington Maryland, USA 98025
>with a
>>> prepaid stamped envelope. He will definitely be able to guide you in
>the
>>> right direction, in regard to your physical body.
>>> I would also suggest that you should forget K and Meditation for the
>time
>>> being till your body is up to par and to your satisfaction.
>>>
>>> > Susan Wrote>
>>> > Hi Carl,
>>> >
>>> > Muktananada writes in Kundalini:The Secret of Life..."In the form
>of
>>> > prana(the vital force of the body and the universe) She penetrates
>all
>>> > 720 million nadis (subtle energy channels in the body),
>>>
>>> Anandajyoti>
>>> Although Muktananda was a great person, inspite of what his book says
>about
>>> 720 million nadis, I would like to point out to the list, that in
>Hatha
>Yoga
>>> Pradipika, which is the basic text for such information and the
>original
>>> about the numbers of nadis etc. the number is 720 thousand not
>million.
>It
>>> could have been a typo in Muktananda's Book.
>>
>>GG
>>I wondered about that. Thanks. And, I do agree unless he is really
>>advanced in detachment it is probably better to pull back and see what
>>state the body is in. Kundalini will certainly stir the pot and while
>it
>>would take it to a positive outcome eventually the body may not be
>>prepared for the ride. GG
>>>
>>> Ananadajyoti
>>> http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/6782
>>
>>--
>>
>>Enter The Silence to Know God ... and... accept life as the teacher.
>>Gloria Joy Greco
>> e-mail me at : lodpressATnospamintercomm.com and visit our homepages at:
>>http://users.intercomm.com/larryn/
>>&
>>http://www.freeyellow.com/members/zg888/
>>Hope you enjoy them!
>>
>>
>
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 13:33:36 -0800
From: Solar Lion <gtaATnospamcwnet.com>
To: <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: Re: Worsening symptoms
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some references recommended by VA nurse for similar symptoms
Eat Right for Your Type :
The Individualized Diet Solution to Staying
Healthy, Living Longer & Achieving Your Ideal Weight
Dr. Peter J D'Adamo , Catherine Whitney
(eating right for your blood type)
The Arthritis Cure : The Medical Miracle
That Can Halt, Reverse, and May Even
Cure Osteoarthritis
Jason Theodosakis, et al
The Arthritis Cure
Jason Theodosakis, et al / Audio cassette
Spontaneous Healing
Andrew Weil / VHS Tape
Spontaneous Healing : How to Discover and Enhance
Your Body's Natural Ability to Maintain and Heal Itself
Andrew Weil M.D. / Paperback
Spontaneous Healing : How to Discover and Enhance
Your Body's Natural Ability to Maintain and Heal Itself
Andrew Weil / Audio Cassette
Spontaneous Healing & 8 Weeks to
Optimum Health Video 2 Pack Vol 2
Andrew Weil
all are available thru our site (shelter section)
many libraries carry these
and the books are just popular enough that you may have friends that have
them.
Solar Lion (Bob)
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