1998/01/29 03:52
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #86
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 86
Today's Topics:
Re: Fear [ Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.co ]
Re: fighting fear [ Blythe <merlinATnospampnn.com> ]
Re: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource [ Druout <DruoutATnospamaol.com> ]
Re: Ear Ringing Poll RESULTS [ "Orea de Sa' Hana" <oreaATnospamerols.com> ]
Re: fighting fear [ Yu Zhang <yzhangATnospamcs.ubc.ca> ]
Re: Ear Ringing Poll RESULTS [ Druout <DruoutATnospamaol.com> ]
Re: Unidentified subject! [ LilEli <LilEliATnospamaol.com> ]
Re: fighting fear [ Harsh Luthar <hlutharATnospambryant.edu> ]
Re: Fear [ anandajyoti <anandajyotiATnospamgeocities. ]
Re: Fear [ anandajyoti <anandajyotiATnospamgeocities. ]
(no subject) [ David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net> ]
(no subject Part II) [ David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net> ]
Worsening symptoms was unidentified [ "Susan Carlson" <divine_goddessATnospamhot ]
Re: Fear [ David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net> ]
Re: fighting fear [ Yu Zhang <yzhangATnospamcs.ubc.ca> ]
Re: Unidentified subject! [ PEGLUMPKINATnospamaol.com ]
Re: Worsening symptoms was unidentif [ anandajyoti <anandajyotiATnospamgeocities. ]
Re: Sharing my experience with "Tita [ Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic ]
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 11:05:36 +0100
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
To: anandajyoti <anandajyotiATnospamgeocities.com>
CC: "heartzenATnospamlistserv.servtech.com" <heartzenATnospamlistserv.servtech.com>,
"kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com" <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: Re: Fear
Message-ID: <34CF02ED.36E8ATnospamintercomm.com>
anandajyoti wrote:
GG
Great topic, and if you can bring yourself to confront your fear in your
sleep it will do amazing things for you when you bring it to your
conscious mind.
Everyone has some aspect of fear that manages to manipulate life, and
when it is allowed to just continue to create the web you are really
being mastered by the lower self emotion and thought. When you are able
to really surrender yourself to God by putting God first in all things,
there is no room for this anymore. And, this gives you the ability to
confront it through your out of body work.
Everytime you go face to face with a really ugly projection or lower
energy force in your sleep and you manage to come at it from your higher
knowing, you actually dissolve the web and are freed by the manifestion
of higher consciousness that comes through your knowing spontaneously.
This is what I was taught as a child and believe me it works, it is
very empowering. Because it is spirit to spirit on that side and when
the soul/spirit consciousness is pure out of the body...you know
yourself. This is what I believe people should work for, not so much the
enlightenment, or any of the k stuff, but literally to know yourself out
of the body. When you do, you know yourself in the body and it is solid.
Nothing will shake you. Then things come at you that are of the mind you
simply tell it to shut up and get lost. The mind is the enemy here and
it follows you out of body, so the meditation is on stilling that flood
of thought and emotion.
Anandajyoti:
> Fear as an emotion, we can say , that energizes us and spurs us
> on is healthy, and the emotion of fear which mentally cripples us is
> unhealthy. So the challenge is , taking control of our thoughts, and
> being able to break that chain of morbid fear, at will, by being able to
> break away from that chain of thought. So by conscious and intentional
> effort one can transform the nature of the fear and also surrendering it
> to the Divine. Both ways, it work. You feed the fire or you quench it.
> Anandajyoti
>
> http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/6782
--
Enter The Silence to Know God ... and... accept life as the teacher.
Gloria Joy Greco
e-mail me at : lodpressATnospamintercomm.com and visit our homepages at:
http://users.intercomm.com/larryn/
&
http://www.freeyellow.com/members/zg888/
Hope you enjoy them!
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 11:58:45 -0800 (PST)
From: Blythe <merlinATnospampnn.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: fighting fear
Message-Id: <199801281958.LAA01113ATnospampnn.com>
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>>
>>> ATnospam->->-- Reminds me of a quote, "Love your enemies. It will drive them
>crazy!"
>>
>> 'Love your enemies' is quite right. It's the common principle in Religion.
>>
Quakers of the Silent Meeting type say: Speak to that of God in all others,
especially those who see themselves as your enemies.
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 15:02:01 EST
From: Druout <DruoutATnospamaol.com>
To: gandm.waindATnospamsympatico.ca, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center
Message-ID: <3c1be159.34cf8ebbATnospamaol.com>
Dear Mark
I feel "driven" to do yoga postures ATnospam 3 times a day for 20 min a time. But I
learned the postures in the 70's. The postures ground me. I'd be flying
without them.
Also, wake up with the urge to do fish posture at least once a night.
no mudras, though, or languages (yet!)
Love, Hillary
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 15:09:33 -0400
From: "Orea de Sa' Hana" <oreaATnospamerols.com>
To: Kundalini List <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Ear Ringing Poll RESULTS
Message-ID: <34CF826C.432FE7F9ATnospamerols.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353"
I was/am sort of at a loss about how to reply about ear-ringing. If I
listen, it's there, but not tot the extent that it bothers me in my
everyday life, so it may not be the type of thing you are referring to.
I remember hearing ringing in my ears as early as the third grade, which
would make me about 8 years old and place the time period as around
1962.
The first time I spontaneously channeled, I was about 19 or 20, it was
God talking, began quoting Psalm 100 (Make a joyful noise to the Lord,
all ye lands, come into His presence with singing and into his courts
with praise..." I was then addressed personally and praised for
worshipping with a joyful heart. But it went on to speak of the
vibratory rate of the Universe and asked me if I could hear it. I
listened then, and I could.
*It sounded like a high-pitched ringing sound in my ears.*
The whole thing flipped me out to the point that I turned off to the
psychic stuff and actually forgot the whole thing happened until
relatively recently.
-Orea
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 12:12:11 -0800
From: Yu Zhang <yzhangATnospamcs.ubc.ca>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: fighting fear
Message-ID: <34CF911B.164ATnospamcs.ubc.ca>
"If you feel good, OK, don't care, continue your training.
If you feel bad, OK, don't care, continue your training."
The main theme here is " continue your training no matter what
happens until you become who you want to be."
"OK, don't care" is a method.
Yu
--
http://www.cs.ubc.ca/spider/yzhang/
"Who sees all beings in his own Self, and his own Self in all
beings, loses all fear." - Isa Upanishad
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 15:27:16 EST
From: Druout <DruoutATnospamaol.com>
To: SchrLLATnospamaol.com, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Ear Ringing Poll RESULTS
Message-ID: <6c7b55e4.34cf94a6ATnospamaol.com>
Dear Linda,
I've had no earringing except brief episodes I attribute to aspirin. But I
have had
ear "rushing." Sort of what happens when you yawn or listen to a conch shell.
I can bring this on, and it causes blissful brain explosions. Wonder if
earring can be translated to bliss too.
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 18:04:31 EST
From: LilEli <LilEliATnospamaol.com>
To: PEGLUMPKINATnospamaol.com, cariATnospamhenge.com
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Unidentified subject!
Message-ID: <40fb54b3.34cfb982ATnospamaol.com>
In a message dated 98-01-28 12:56:40 EST, PEGLUMPKINATnospamaol.com writes:
<< And if you take any herbs, be sure to read the
labels. Some of them that are supposed to boost your immune system, like
echinacea, say not to take them if you have an auto-immune disease. I don't
know why. >>
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 18:13:26 -0500
From: Harsh Luthar <hlutharATnospambryant.edu>
To: Yu Zhang <yzhangATnospamcs.ubc.ca>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: fighting fear
Message-ID: <34CFBB96.D1FE1816ATnospambryant.edu>
Yu Zhang wrote:
> "If you feel good, OK, don't care, continue your training.
> If you feel bad, OK, don't care, continue your training."
>
> The main theme here is " continue your training no matter what
> happens until you become who you want to be."
> "OK, don't care" is a method.
>
> Yu
The compassionate Harsha writes with a big smile:
I understood what you were saying quite well the first time. Still I
insist that:
If you discontinue your training, OK, don't care,
don't feel bad
If you continue your training, OK, don't care,
don't feel good
"OK, don't care" is indeed the proper attitude and approach to all
Training.
> With love and humor---Harsha
> -
> http://www.cs.ubc.ca/spider/yzhang/
> "Who sees all beings in his own Self, and his own Self in all
> beings, loses all fear." - Isa Upanishad
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 19:07:51 -0800
From: anandajyoti <anandajyotiATnospamgeocities.com>
To: lodpressATnospamintercomm.com
CC: "heartzenATnospamlistserv.servtech.com" <heartzenATnospamlistserv.servtech.com>,
"kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com" <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: Re: Fear
Message-ID: <34CFF27D.334853DCATnospamgeocities.com>
Gloria Greco wrote:
> GG
> . if you can bring yourself to confront your fear in your
> sleep it will do amazing things for you when you bring it to your
> conscious mind.
>
> Everyone has some aspect of fear that manages to manipulate life, are
> really
> being mastered by the lower self emotion and thought.
> Everytime you go face to face with a really ugly projection or lower
> energy force in your sleep and you manage to come at it from your higher
> knowing, you actually dissolve the web and are freed by the manifestion
> of higher consciousness that comes through your knowing spontaneously.
>
> This is what I was taught as a child and believe me it works, it is
> very empowering. Because it is spirit to spirit on that side and when
> the soul/spirit consciousness is pure out of the body...you know
> yourself. This is what I believe people should work for, not so much the
> enlightenment, or any of the k stuff, but literally to know yourself out
> of the body. When you do, you know yourself in the body and it is solid.
> Nothing will shake you. Then things come at you that are of the mind you
> simply tell it to shut up and get lost. The mind is the enemy here and
> it follows you out of body, so the meditation is on stilling that flood
> of thought and emotion.
> Anandajyoti> Your suggested method also works for many, it's true. There
> would be many also that even when they ask the mind to stop its chatter, it
> would stop.
So discernment and intentional living ,of what we think, what we desire, what
we do, how we function is, I think , another way to look at it. But I would
not consider the mind as the enemyEnlightenment in my simple understanding ,
is that there are two factors in this life. Me (includes emotions, desires,
cravings, and all the rest), as I know it and the all relationships I face and
work through , in all spheres of my life, be it with myself, God, parents and
relatives, friends, loved ones, pets, colleagues at work, and others in
society as a whole.But this simple challenge of enlightenment can be tackled
in million ways, according to our make up , inner inclinations, our
personality, and the whole kit-n-kabutal.
Anandajyoti
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/6782
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 20:49:56
From: anandajyoti <anandajyotiATnospamgeocities.com> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Fear
Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19980128204956.0ff73652ATnospamdomin8rex.com>
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David Bozzi wrote:
> anandajyoti wrote: Before any emotion, I find that thoughts precede it,
>
> David> And before this one desires something unreal.
Anandajyoti> The mechanism of desires as the response to outer stimuli or
inner stimuli, and both ways is preceded by thought. Any other you may have is
appreciated.
> Anandajyoti > and fear related to thoughts can produce nightmares.
>
> David> As long as we desire them.
Anandajyoti> It brings in another question: where do desires arise from?
> Anandajyoti> > If I do not have conscious , intentional knowledge the
> mechanism of the thought processes, I would find that one thought connects
> to other, and
> > another creating a web.
>
> David> If one overlooks the connection between desiring something other than
> the Divine and pain, then yes, this cycle spins with greater momentum.
>
Anandajyoti> I ask the same , what is the origin of desires, how do they
manifest?
> Anandajyoti > I may have a fear of sitting for an exam, but this fear
> manifests in my consciousness as thought. I am able to know this emotion of
> fear,
> through thought.
>
> David > I've never known emotion through thinking.
Anandajyoti> I would invite the experiences of others in the list also , on
this point raised by David.
Anandajyoti > If I do not know the mechanism how to sever this fear (thought)
from my consciousness,
> David> We don't really sever fear away from Ourself. We become aware that it
> has no real foundation.
> I did not send the monster I thought lived under my bed as a child
> outside.
Anandajyoti> Would we call it a delusion? I don't think the SELF , depending
on how and what individuals identify with to be the SELF.I can agree on the
the point that we become aware that fear has no foundation, I mean the morbid
fears.
> Anandajyoti > I am led into more thoughts, and I will never be able to
> > break that chain reaction within me.
>
> David> The more I try to do away with the chain reaction the stronger it
> becomes.
Anandajyoti> Then should it imply that we should not become determined,
focussed and with will power, use our understanding and intelligence to
overcome or transcend that state of chain reaction of our thoughts.This was
the reason , I had said, whether we feed the fire or quench it, in my original
post.
> Anandajyoti > Many crave for chocolates or coffee, and any healthy appetite.
> With both these cravings,
>
> David> It is the same craving.
Anandajyoti> The craving may be the same as a desire, but its quality differs,
on what we crave for.
> Anandajyoti > I would have to visit the kitchen, but there is a
> > difference in the quality of my craving. Similarly there is a difference
> > between natural fear, such as standing on the ledge of a high building
> > or exposing any part of the body too near a fire, and the morbid fear,
> > which may eat our vitals and allow us to be deluded..
>
> David> But 'both' these fears are calling Awareness to where it is needed.
Anandajyoti> Yes, indeed it implies the refinement of our Awareness, to be
able to discern the wheat from the chaff.
> Anandajyoti > Fear as an emotion, we can say , that energizes us and spurs
> us
> > on is healthy, and the emotion of fear which mentally cripples us is
> > unhealthy.
> Fear can mentally cripple us to the extent that we become energized to
> become aware of our misplaced desire and all the anguish this brings.
> > So the challenge is , taking control of our thoughts, and
> > being able to break that chain of morbid fear,
>
> David> Did not this 'morbid' fear inspire you to fuel Awareness?
Anandajyoti> Yes, so very true.
> Anandajyoti > You feed the fire or you quench it.
>
> David> Feed the fire of Awareness. The fire of fear goes out all by itself.
Anandajyoti> Rightly so.
Anandajyoti
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/6782
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 23:14:50 -0500
From: David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net>
To: Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
CC: HeartZen <heartzenATnospamlistserv.servtech.com>
Subject: (no subject)
Message-ID: <34D0023A.6DF2ATnospammail.snet.net>
Watch the emotional exchange.
On the New York Stock Exchange.
Of predator and prey.
Hey that's you and me.
Up there.
On the big screen.
For all to see.
Waging war.
(I don't know what it's for)
I thought you were somebody else.
But metaphors are weak expressions at best.
At what I'd want to convey.
(So why use them?)
Beneath this lust.
Is sacred stardust.
But metaphors are weak you know.
For what I want to say.
Metaphors are weak.
You Know.
I Know...
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 23:41:12 -0500
From: David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net>
To: Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
CC: HeartZen <heartzenATnospamlistserv.servtech.com>
Subject: (no subject Part II)
Message-ID: <34D00868.3C69ATnospammail.snet.net>
People are reflections of Us.
See Us in the mirror of space and time.
Watch Us breathe.
Say 'hello' with a warm glow of Love.
People are reflections of Us.
We're watching our emanations.
Watch Us give birth, again.
An experience of vibrations.
Of turbulent up and down and calm.
Turbulent right and left.
And peace.
Turbulent up and down.
Peace.
(again).
Peace...
The sensual world gives a clue.
A mystery.
Look!
(At Us.)
I'd sleep but this is too interesting.
You're giving off heat,
And magnetic fields of Love.
Watch you grow.
Us grow.
(Peace...)
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 22:27:36 PST
From: "Susan Carlson" <divine_goddessATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Worsening symptoms was unidentified subject
Message-ID: <19980129062737.27264.qmailATnospamhotmail.com>
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Carl wrote:
Can someone please help me to understand and solve a problem?
I began meditating a month ago, and with that practice started
to experience
spontaneous kundalini energy sessions several times a day. I
thought all
was going well, and I took the opportunity to deepen my
meditations and
visualizations during those kundalini sessions.
With that phenomenon came a surge of worsening symptoms of 2
chronic
illnesses that I have had for 11 years: multiple sclerosis and
rheumatoid
arthritis. I now have so much pain and disability that I am
nearly
crippled. All this after a few years of managing really well.
Hi Carl,
This is not unusual to have symptoms get worse when K starts her ascent
as she starts purifying the body and mind with her energy.
Muktananada writes in Kundalini:The Secret of Life..."In the form of
prana(the vital force of the body and the universe) She penetrates all
720 million nadis (subtle energy channels in the body), consumes all the
old decaying fluids, then releases vital energy into them all. As the
nadis become filled with prana, the body becomes rejuvenated from
within.....Sometimes during this process, latent germs of diseases may
be brought to the surface, and as a result, the person my start to
suffer from that disease. However, this is happening to expel this
disease from the system permanently and there is nothing to be afraid
of." p 28. ISBN: 0-911307-34-6
This is intelligent energy. You may ask that the rising be not so acute
for you.
This little book, only 53 pages, is an excellent layman's reference for
k. Even has a great glossary of sanskrit terms.
It can be purchased for less than $10 from the SYDA Foundation. Here is
the bookstores phone number...914-434-0124
For those of you who like your K info in readable practical
format...this little book can be a big help. I find it invaluable for
reference for my own k mysterious happenings.
Blessings,
Susan
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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 01:46:00 -0500
From: David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net>
To: Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
CC: HeartZen <heartzenATnospamlistserv.servtech.com>
Subject: Re: Fear
Message-ID: <34D025A8.695ATnospammail.snet.net>
anandajyoti wrote:
> Anandajyoti> The mechanism of desires as the response to outer stimuli or
> inner stimuli, and both ways is preceded by thought. Any other you may have is
> appreciated.
You want to know if thought precedes desire?
Let's say Desire always is.
It is an aspects of Us.
In truth, the way we are created is with this infinite desire forever
fulfilled.
We wonder(and wondering is dreaming) that there might exist somewhere,
sometime
something else other than Fulfillment. Or that Fulfillment can be
achieved
by something that is unreal. In this we simultaneously forget who we
are.
In this dreamy state of the world our natural desire becomes fixated on
the dream.
Time is quite literally the Grand Projection.
Remembering Ourself satisfies our desire and the illusion begins to
fade.
> Anandajyoti> It brings in another question: where do desires arise from?
So I say Desire is an aspect of what we are.
We are created to desire Love.
Nature made all the locks and holds all the keys.
> Anandajyoti> I ask the same , what is the origin of desires, how do they
> manifest?
The world is built on misplaced Desire.
> > I did not send the monster I thought lived under my bed as a child
> > outside.
> Anandajyoti> Would we call it a delusion? I don't think the SELF ,
It is nothing. That is the best name I can figure.
> > David> The more I try to do away with the chain reaction the stronger it
> > becomes.
> Anandajyoti> Then should it imply that we should not become determined,
> focussed and with will power, use our understanding and intelligence to
> overcome or transcend that state of chain reaction of our thoughts.
We are always determined.
We are not always focused.
We are will power.
Understanding is awareness.
Awareness is light.
The chain reaction of thinking is a shadow.
But light is everywhere.
> > Anandajyoti > Many crave for chocolates or coffee, and any healthy appetite.
> > With both these cravings,
> > David> It is the same craving.
> Anandajyoti> The craving may be the same as a desire, but its quality differs,
> on what we crave for.
The forms of what we choose to desire change but Desire does not.
Yes it seems we can invest more Desire in one form then another
but it is still form.
Awakening is shifting desire from form to Desire to know oneself.
This process is an automatic effect of awareness.
I can't 'think' my desire to shift.
Thinking is ultimately still always part of the trap.
It is never real.
Intent *can* and does shift Desire from forms to Desire to remember
oneself.
And we are Intent.
The shift of Desire happens on It's Own as we become aware.
> Anandajyoti> Yes, indeed it implies the refinement of our Awareness, to be
> able to discern the wheat from the chaff.
This is an automatic process.
Regards,
David
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 22:44:17 -0800
From: Yu Zhang <yzhangATnospamcs.ubc.ca>
To: hlutharATnospambryant.edu
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: fighting fear
Message-ID: <34D02541.7770ATnospamcs.ubc.ca>
> The compassionate Harsha writes with a big smile:
> I understood what you were saying quite well the first time. Still I
> insist that:
> If you discontinue your training, OK, don't care,
> don't feel bad
> If you continue your training, OK, don't care,
> don't feel good
> "OK, don't care" is indeed the proper attitude and approach to all
> Training.
>
> > With love and humor---Harsha
Yu writes with a smile too:
You are quite right. One more Chinese saying:"
Teacher only introduces his student to the wonderful new world,
student explores the new world by himself."
Happy chinese new year!
Yu
--
http://www.cs.ubc.ca/spider/yzhang/
"Who sees all beings in his own Self, and his own Self in all
beings, loses all fear."- Isa Upanishad
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 02:25:27 EST
From: PEGLUMPKINATnospamaol.com
To: lodpressATnospamintercomm.com
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Unidentified subject!
Message-ID: <7b194eed.34d02eeaATnospamaol.com>
In a message dated 98-01-28 14:20:31 EST, you write:
<< I would also suggest if you can get a hair analysis done, this actually
looks at the minerals, toxins etc in your body. >>
You can also determine mineral levels through a blood screen. I recently had
one done and found that following a vegan diet had left me low on many
minerals, including iron, magnesium, calcium, zinc, and even sodium. I'm now
on vitamin, mineral and electrolyte replacement, guzzling milk and eggs
(choke) and even salting my food (gag). But I have to admit I'm feeling
better. I'm supposed to be eating lots of fish and poultry ("foul"), but it's
hard changing habits.
Peg
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 01:42:06 -0800
From: anandajyoti <anandajyotiATnospamgeocities.com>
To: Susan Carlson <divine_goddessATnospamhotmail.com>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Worsening symptoms was unidentified subject
Message-ID: <34D04EE8.187B82D1ATnospamgeocities.com>
Susan Carlson wrote:
> Carl wrote:
> With that phenomenon came a surge of worsening symptoms of 2
> chronic
> illnesses that I have had for 11 years: multiple sclerosis and
> rheumatoid
> arthritis. I now have so much pain and disability that I am
> nearly
> crippled. All this after a few years of managing really well.
>
Anandajyoti>
> Hello Carl !
With your symptoms of MS and Rheumatism I would suggest you drop a note of
your current condition, your blood tests results , your weight , age and
height to Dr.. Dave Mirkin Box 10, Kensington Maryland, USA 98025 with a
prepaid stamped envelope. He will definitely be able to guide you in the
right direction, in regard to your physical body.
I would also suggest that you should forget K and Meditation for the time
being till your body is up to par and to your satisfaction.
> Susan Wrote>
> Hi Carl,
>
> Muktananada writes in Kundalini:The Secret of Life..."In the form of
> prana(the vital force of the body and the universe) She penetrates all
> 720 million nadis (subtle energy channels in the body),
Anandajyoti>
Although Muktananda was a great person, inspite of what his book says about
720 million nadis, I would like to point out to the list, that in Hatha Yoga
Pradipika, which is the basic text for such information and the original
about the numbers of nadis etc. the number is 720 thousand not million. It
could have been a typo in Muktananda's Book.
Ananadajyoti
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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 03:57:50 -0600
From: Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Sharing my experience with "Titanic" Ego/God/Goddess/Whole
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Barbara Ellen (RadiantTch <RadiantTchATnospamaol.com>) wrote:
>....As a human focus, where time and space do exist experientially, I am
>ALL, but
>ALL can be broken down into facets and details, where I am sometimes the male,
>and sometimes the female, each with their own seperate functions that work
>together to form the whole (the whole being absolutely perfect and divine no
>matter the facet reflections' feelings and actions, including anger, etc.,
>creating the perfect outcome for soul's higher learning and growth) - Giving,
>receiving, BEingness, & actingness, ever flowing and changing.
>
>I'm like a diamond reflecting a myriad of facets that I see mirrored in other
>people/places/situations - I am not only the seperate facets or aspects (those
>are only teeny tiny parts of who I am), I am the WHOLE diamond.
Beautiful, Barbara Ellen! So much to come from a movie - but you must have
been working on it for some time.
>And I'm
>learning to remember that in moments of crisis, where an aspect is reflecting
>that seems dark and fearful. Very helpful in shining light on those little
>dark, fearful reflections!
>
>When I get the mirror image of those dark places, I try not to identify with
>them, or live them (deny them, NO; acknowledge them, YES - that is different
>than "living" them), knowing that they are not fully who I am, just there to
>show me where I need to add light. Sometimes, I can go right "up" into the
>totality of me, and see/know the big picture, which helps the aspect transform
>into light. But sometimes, the aspect has a stronger "pull" on me, and I need
>to express it (it must be an aspect that has been previously denied,
>suppressed and really cries out to be heard) - rather than expressing it
>directly to the other person involved, I do seperate anger/fear work first, to
>let the steam out of the boiling kettle. THEN I can speak with the person
>involved from a loving, gentle space, so that we can come to come to
>understand one another.
Works a lot better than trying to suppress or repress the anger, doesn't it?
Love,
Ann
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