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1998/01/28 12:21
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #85


kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 85

Today's Topics:
  Re: fighting fear [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistres ]
  Fear [ anandajyoti <anandajyotiATnospamgeocities. ]
  Re: ADD, Meds, Blood. [ amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us ]
  Re: Fear [ David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net> ]
  Unidentified subject! [ "Cari J. Williams, PhD" <cariATnospamhenge ]
  Re: Unidentified subject! [ PEGLUMPKIN <PEGLUMPKINATnospamaol.com> ]
  AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Cen [ Diana Hardy <LivnspiritATnospamaol.com> ]
  RE: Unidentified subject! [ "Duncan, Mark" <duncanmATnospamemh22.eusti ]
  IT and It. [ docATnospamyogaclass.com (Dr.KEV) ]
  Re: HRTZEN: Holographic connection [ Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.co ]
  Re: Unidentified subject! [ Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.co ]
  Re: Unidentified subject! [ Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.co ]
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 02:14:22
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: fighting fear
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>Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 02:35:40 -0600
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>Sender: rootATnospamlocalhost.localdomain
>Old-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 16:37:07 -0800
>From: Yu Zhang <yzhangATnospamcs.ubc.ca>
>Organization: Computer Science Department, UBC
>To: SchrLL <SchrLLATnospamaol.com>, Blythe <merlinATnospampnn.com>,
> RadiantTch <RadiantTchATnospamaol.com>, Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
>Subject: Re: fighting fear
>X-Diagnostic: Mail coming from a daemon, ignored
>X-Envelope-To: kundalini-l
>
>> ATnospam->->-- Reminds me of a quote, "Love your enemies. It will drive them
crazy!"
>
> 'Love your enemies' is quite right. It's the common principle in Religion.
>
>Some enemies won't be moved by your love. Imagine you were in Nazi
Germany, in
>Culture Revolution in China... Never under-estimate the dark side of the
force.
>
>You should love your enemy, but when it can't work, don't panic, don't try
to get
>rid
>of your fear, don't follow your fear, relax on the holy one, holy one will
decide
>
>everything.
>
>When the negative situation is not caused by human being, like flood,
earthquake,
>
>be sure holy one is with us.
>
>By the way, try to find out why your boss hate you. Avoid the cause of the
dark
>side
>is the best way. If you can't avoid it, trust holy one.
>
>Yu
>
>
>
>--
>http://www.cs.ubc.ca/spider/yzhang/
>"Who sees all beings in his own Self, and his own Self in
>all beings, loses all fear." - Isa Upanishad
>
>
>
>
>

Mystress Angelique Serpent,
  Dominant Experiential Facilitator.
Website= http://www.domin8rex.com/serpent
      :D ;) :0 :) ;P :0 ;) :D :0 :) ;P :0 ;) :)
   I would rather live in a world where my life is surrounded by mystery
than live in a world so small that my mind could comprehend it.
   -- Harry Emerson Fosdick
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 Vancouver, B.C., Canada. Officially the most beautiful city in the world.
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 03:38:39 -0800
From: anandajyoti <anandajyotiATnospamgeocities.com>
To: "heartzenATnospamlistserv.servtech.com" <heartzenATnospamlistserv.servtech.com>,
 "kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com" <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: Fear
Message-ID: <34CF18B9.75F2F937ATnospamgeocities.com>

In order to analyze this emotion of fear recently I took up an
examination of myself.
This is what I came up with.
Before any emotion, I find that thoughts precede it, and fear related to
thoughts can produce nightmares.
If I do not have conscious , intentional knowledge the mechanism of the
thought processes, I would find that one thought connects to other, and
another creating a web.
I may have a fear of sitting for an exam, but this fear manifests in my
consciousness as thought. I am able to know this emotion of fear,
through thought.
If I donut know the mechanism how to sever this fear (thought) from my
consciousness, I am led into more thoughts, and I will never be able to
break that chain reaction within me.
Many crave for chocolates or coffee, and any healthy appetite. With both
these cravings, I would have to visit the kitchen, but there is a
difference in the quality of my craving. Similarly there is a difference
between natural fear, such as standing on the ledge of a high building
or exposing any part of the body too near a fire, and the morbid fea,
which may eat our vitals and allow us to be deluded.. But both are
fears. Fear as an emotion, we can say , that energizes us and spurs us
on is healthy, and the emotion of fear which mentally cripples us is
unhealthy. So the challenge is , taking control of our thoughts, and
being able to break that chain of morbid fear, at will, by being able to
break away from that chain of thought. So by conscious and intentional
effort one can transform the nature of the fear and also surrendering it
to the Divine. Both ways, it work. You feed the fire or you quench it.
Anandajyoti

http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/6782
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 07:46:23 -0600
From: amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Cc: amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us
Subject: Re: ADD, Meds, Blood.
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Angelique wrote:

> Spoken like a true non ADD person... drop those crutches and WALK, sez
>the preacher. If you cannot, then it is becuase faith is not strong
>enough..??

If only I had a nickel for every time I was dealt with in this way! This
started me to thinking... sounding real familiar here....

> Been there, tried that many times.. but when the bout of anger is from
>wierd brain chemistry, kundalini can become a pretty nasty weapon.
> (ssss...Come to the dark side, Luke Skywalker..)

Again, I can relate!

> In my case, I damp the fire with smoke.. I am a fire sign...

I too am a fire sign. Can't damp it with smoke though. Makes me psychotic.

> I know that my anger is irrational, even as it is happening. It is
>usually set off by something momentary and insignificant.. that makes no
>difference to the power of the emotion.. it will pick up rationality, and
>turn it into judgemental K. righteousness quickly as thought. Logic turns
>to a tool for rhetoric and rationality turns to rationalization, and the
>flip side of genius is what??

Oh, the pain! I know of which you speak!

> I do get other emotional extremes, but anger is the dangerous one..

Yep.

> I have been granted an embarrassment of riches, artistic and creative
>talents too many to name.. and the flip side is ADD. Tao of Mystress.

Wait a minute here. Wonder if there's a web site with an ADD quiz so I can
check myself out... There is!

www.greatconnect.com/oneaddplace/addcheck.htm

Yikes! I scored big time. What a revelation.

<snippage>

> With me, there is no blood, but the wounds of Words go deeper, and the
>scars cannot be seen so clearly, to be healed after. When submissive types
>lose their temper, they yell about things that make no sense. When
>dominants lose it, they calmly coldly say things that are true and make
>perfect sense, but in kindness, ought never to be said.

Been there, done that. Burned lots of bridges that way.

> We are never given anything we cannot handle.. and Goddess has provided
>me with the most sacred, ancient and gentle of herbal medicines, to help me
>cope. Blessed be.

More power to ya, wish it worked for moi. Maybe I should get a formal
diagnosis and some Ritalin. Perhaps then I could be organized enough to get
a better job, or start my own business.

>Forgive self for
>destruction. Make a correction of thought. Get better candleholders, so
>fire is light and warmth, not rampaging destruction. But as long as humans
>have been using fire to keep warm, houses have been burning down. This is
>the Tao of fire.

This new conception of myself has given me more space to forgive myself my
mistakes and also to understand better some of the other people in my
family. I have a niece with ADD whom I am not always too patient with, and
a daughter whom I locked horns with on a regular basis. It is hardest to
get along with those whose "faults" are most like our own, eh? This
explains alot!

> Ever wonder about the relationship between Tummo fire, and spontaneous
>human combustion?

Yes.

>>Now for the middle of the road approach. ADD people frequently self
>>medicate with caffeine, pot and sugar.

And lets not forget chocolate and nicotine!

> LOL! Sitting with my morning smoke, and a pint of Twinings black currant
>tea with lots of dark demerra sugar..

For me it's a tall almond-flavored Latte, often also with demerra. Since my
last car accident I never attempt to drive anywhere without some caffeine
in my system!

>....calcium
>and fat, vit. D for a pale white grrrl of german/english descent.

Mostly French and Swedish here, skin white as a fish belly.

<more snippage>

> Different strains do affect humans differently, tho..
> In the sixties, the pot was grown outdoors in faraway places, and most of
>it tended to be Cannibas sativa.
> Icon: the Beatles frolicking in old fashioned bathing costumes in the
>movie "Help!"
>

Hmmmm.....

> These days, most pot is grown hydroponically indoors, and cannibas indica
>is better suited to hydroponics.
> Icon: Gen X couch potato channel surfing into tomorrow.
> Point: Sativa is better medical marijuana for folks who still want to be
>getting things done.. IMHO.. tho at the compassion club, some users prefer
>indica for it's greater sedation.

Fascinating. Maybe there's a strain that will focus me, but not give me the
psychosis?

> If society wants a quick fix balm for stress, compassion reminds us that
>humans have not ever had to live in the kind of rapid change that our
>society encompasses, in the information age.
> Change is stressful to humans. We are living in a world that our
>technology is reshaping at a pace that is unprecedented in human history.
>Kundalites get the environmental changes, and the inner evolutionary
>changes, and the information age changes... Stressed? It's understandable.

Add the ADD to that and it's no wonder I'm overwhelmed!

>Be gentle with yourself.

I will. I will beat myself up less for "lacking will power" (I did quit
nicotine cold turkey, after all!) and accept the fact that I am
neurologically different, which is not necessarily bad. I found another
website that actually points out some of the *advantages* of ADD. What a
concept!

www.connix.com/~hypercog/add.htm

>From the site:

"Thom Hartmann views the ADDer as a Hunter in a Farmer's world."

Yes! I recognize myself! I have often fantasized about living free as a
Hunter-Gatherer, and how little "progress" has actually done for our
quality of life, other than add more stress to it!

It is so ironic that I work with educators all day who get frustrated in
dealing with me, that they haven't recognized our communication problem. A
lesson for parents who rely on the school system to help ADD sufferers.
NOT!

On the other hand, now that *I* know, I can perhaps find a way to
communicate better with my co-workers, as well as being more understanding
with the students I work with.

I can't believe I got this old before I discovered such a big piece of my
mystery!
Maybe it's happening now for a reason....

I have so much more to say. My mind bubbles like a cauldron. But I am aware
that I may bore the rest of you, so...

Thanks Angelique!

not as puzzled,
amckeon
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 08:56:35 -0500
From: David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net>
To: Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
CC: HeartZen <heartzenATnospamlistserv.servtech.com>
Subject: Re: Fear
Message-ID: <34CF3913.6DD1ATnospammail.snet.net>

anandajyoti wrote:

> Before any emotion, I find that thoughts precede it,

And before this one desires something unreal.

> and fear related to thoughts can produce nightmares.

As long as we desire them.

> If I do not have conscious , intentional knowledge the mechanism of the
> thought processes, I would find that one thought connects to other, and
> another creating a web.

If one overlooks the connection between
desiring something other than the Divine and pain,
then yes, this cycle spins with greater momentum.

> I may have a fear of sitting for an exam, but this fear manifests in my
> consciousness as thought. I am able to know this emotion of fear,
> through thought.

I've never known emotion through thinking.

> If I donut know the mechanism how to sever this fear (thought) from my
> consciousness,

We don't really sever fear away from Ourself.
We become aware that it has no real foundation.
I did not send the monster I thought lived under my bed as a child
outside.

> I am led into more thoughts, and I will never be able to
> break that chain reaction within me.

The more I try to do away with the chain reaction the stronger it
becomes.

> Many crave for chocolates or coffee, and any healthy appetite. With both
> these cravings,

It is the same craving.

> I would have to visit the kitchen, but there is a
> difference in the quality of my craving. Similarly there is a difference
> between natural fear, such as standing on the ledge of a high building
> or exposing any part of the body too near a fire, and the morbid fea,
> which may eat our vitals and allow us to be deluded..

But 'both' these fears are calling Awareness to where it is needed.

> Fear as an emotion, we can say , that energizes us and spurs us
> on is healthy, and the emotion of fear which mentally cripples us is
> unhealthy.

Fear can mentally cripple us to the extent that we become energized to
become aware of our misplaced desire and all the anguish this brings.

> So the challenge is , taking control of our thoughts, and
> being able to break that chain of morbid fear,

Did not this 'morbid' fear inspire you to fuel Awareness?

> You feed the fire or you quench it.

Feed the fire of Awareness.
The fire of fear goes out all by itself.
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 09:59:40 -0600
From: "Cari J. Williams, PhD" <cariATnospamhenge.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Unidentified subject!
Message-Id: <1.5.4.16.19980128091029.09ef105eATnospamhenge.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Can someone please help me to understand and solve a problem?

I began meditating a month ago, and with that practice started to experience
spontaneous kundalini energy sessions several times a day. I thought all
was going well, and I took the opportunity to deepen my meditations and
visualizations during those kundalini sessions.

  With that phenomenon came a surge of worsening symptoms of 2 chronic
illnesses that I have had for 11 years: multiple sclerosis and rheumatoid
arthritis. I now have so much pain and disability that I am nearly
crippled. All this after a few years of managing really well.

(As an afterthought, I realize that the 2 diseases were diagnosed between
1985-1987, while I was practicing a meditative lifestyle in retreat in the
mountains. I questioned the existence of God. I freaked out then and
stopped meditating.)

Can the kundalini be too strong for me? Too fast? Misdirected? Misused?
What could be happening? If anyone has had similar experiences, please let
me know what I should do now. Thank you.
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 12:55:18 EST
From: PEGLUMPKIN <PEGLUMPKINATnospamaol.com>
To: cariATnospamhenge.com
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Unidentified subject!
Message-ID: <544c6d47.34cf7108ATnospamaol.com>

In a message dated 98-01-28 11:01:45 EST, you write:

<< With that phenomenon came a surge of worsening symptoms of 2 chronic
 illnesses that I have had for 11 years: multiple sclerosis and rheumatoid
 arthritis. >>

Dear Cari,

May I preface this by saying I know nothing about medicine. I began a
spontaneous kundalini rising last March and have been on this list since then.
We have talked about kundalini as being ultimately a self-directing healing
phenomenon. At the same time, many of us on the list are very sensitive to
environmental conditions and have allergies and reactions galore. I often
feel like the canary in the coal mine. You are experiencing auto-immune
diseases which are very susceptible to stressors, environmental and emotional.
I also have an auto-immune disease called Graves disease. So far, the main
symptom has been that my right eyelid retracts, giving me a psychotic look on
the right side of my face. The more stressed I am, the more it retracts. The
more mellow, the more it relaxes. It's like a stress-o-meter. Meditation
helps.

My doctor explained that, in auto-immune disease, the receptor mechanisms in
our fighter cells, which protect us from harmful invading substances, get
overtaxed and lose their focus, thereby mistaking our own cells as invaders.
Even though the onset of your diseases coincided with the beginning of your
kundalini process and your symptoms worsened when you resumed meditation,
there may not be a cause and effect relationship. As your body began to fall
into disease, at a higher level of consciousness you may have directed
yourself to begin healing practices. From past comments of list members, I
think at least a few others would agree with me in suggesting that you combine
the medical technology available from traditional doctors with inner guidance
and healing available through your continued spiritual practices. It might
help to evaluate your life for the presence of stressors and pollutants,
environmental and emotional. And if you take any herbs, be sure to read the
labels. Some of them that are supposed to boost your immune system, like
echinacea, say not to take them if you have an auto-immune disease. I don't
know why.

Peg
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 08:25:27 -1000 (HST)
From: Diana Hardy <LivnspiritATnospamaol.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center
Message-Id: <199801281825.IAA05222ATnospamhaleakala.aloha.net>

Hi

I am new to the list and am glad to see that there is such a list on the kundalini, I have had many experiences with my kundalini, it completely changed my life. I am a spiritual counselor, I discovered some years ago that I had these abilities to be able to see things in the past, present, and future and to heal people. I did not know what this was or even why I was given such a gift. As the years passed on my spirit has taught me so many things, that sometimes it seems so unbelieveable. However, a couple of years ago I was blessed with my own tv program, located in New York City, I recently decided that I would like to have a guest on my show, someone who would like to share their kundalini expeirence, or just information for the general public. Feel free to email me, if anyone would like to .

Diana Hardy
LivnspiritATnospamaol.com
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 13:55:27 -0500
From: "Duncan, Mark" <duncanmATnospamemh22.eustis.army.mil>
To: Barbara Millikan <millikanATnospampnn.com>
Cc: Kundalini List <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: RE: Unidentified subject!
Message-ID: <01B8F53230B7D0118F530000F638E6AB3DD443ATnospamATSC08>

I don't know where I am with my chakras;
however, my plants are in danger as well
as the dust bunnies hiding under the bed
and in the corners!

This energy is very powerful and determined.
I have been unable to transmute this to
something else, because I am in a Long
Distance Monogamous Relationship. I
haven't tried flogging...
...yet.

Mark C. Duncan
ATSCNET Systems Engineer
Remtech Services, Inc.
Bldg. 1725, FT Eustis, VA
757.878.4871
duncanmATnospamemh22.eustis.army.mil

  -----Original Message-----
  From: Barbara Millikan [SMTP:millikanATnospampnn.com]
  Sent: Monday, January 12, 1998 3:48 PM
  To: sassiATnospamworldnet.att.net
  Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
  Subject: Re: Unidentified subject!

  At 03:06 AM 1/12/98 GMT, you wrote:
  > Most of my work is in the lower three chakras.
  <snipped>
  >I too work on the lower three chakras right now. Every
three to four
  >days, with abstinence, my level of sensual ( read;
horniness ) gets to
  >a point that even the house plants are in danger. At
the same time I
  <snipped>
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 20:19:10 +0100 (MET)
From: docATnospamyogaclass.com (Dr.KEV)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: IT and It.
Message-Id: <199801281919.UAA19397ATnospammail.a1.nl>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Could it be that the internet is an evolutionary phenomenon? Are we not now
all part of a cyborganic entity that transcends mere humanity? This thing,
IT, is already alive! And growing. About to wake up and rear it's terrifying
head. IT is beyond us. Although we are integral to it.

Consider the (near) future.
We will have gigaspeed IT links, and exponentially faster CPU's implanted
directly inside our heads. In the meantime, human cell culture, let alone
genetic, technology is going to make it possible for your nervous system to
not age, and be able to live inside a different sort of "body" every day of
the week, just like we change clothes now. Forever....

Get the picture? Ego flaring up!?

Everything suddenly becomes possible. Anything. Because there is no longer
any distinction between the Maya currently outside and the VR inside your
screen. AND NOBODY GETS HURT.

The innate creative intelligence in atoms that impels them to order
themselves into coherent reflections of the conscious whole, that turns
stardust we call dirt into people, has turned rocks into computers, sand
into the Web, us into IT.

Congratulations ladies and gentlemen, we've just taken the next step in the
long process of evolving enough to be involved.

The big question is, can we "be kewl" long enough to get everyone
plugged-in, and reach the threshold of sustainability, before the Whole Show
gets canceled?

Pls cc: comments and replies directly to: docATnospamyogaclass.com

   ((o)(-))
   ( ~~ )
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~o00o~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"Imparting the *Spirit* of WELLNESS!!!"
  K.Thos.McGann,DC
    docATnospamyogaclass.com
http://www.yogaclass.com
~~o00-o~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 ( ) ( )
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 10:36:46 +0100
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
To: Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic.net>
CC: heartzenATnospamlistserv.servtech.com, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: HRTZEN: Holographic connection
Message-ID: <34CEFC2D.2375ATnospamintercomm.com>

Ann Morrison Fisher wrote:
>
> >> > Harsha writes: Some say that Reality is Subjective, some say it is
> >>Objective and
> >> > some say it is both Objective and Subjective and some say it is
> >>neither. Some say
> >> > the the Final State is that of Pure Existence, some say it is Only Pure
> >> > Non-Existence and some say It is beyond both Existence and
> >>Non-Existence. No
> >> > matter, how clever the terminology and how subtle the expression of the
> >> > experience of the Self, it misses the mark. It is because the Self has
> >>no point
> >> > of Reference in experience being *It Self* the very Foundation on
> >>which All
> >> > experience appears to take place..
> >
> >Gloria here:
> > It is also because what takes one from the stillness is the
> >conversation so the words themselves produce the ripple effect that is
> >also a part of the illusion. But when these words are from Divine Will
> >the power is still with them and the clarity can be transmitted in spite
> >of the fact that the illusion is in place. Does this make any sense?
>
> There is no conversation in THAT experience. There are no words. There is
> no one to speak. And no one to hear. Only All.
>
> Ann

GG
It is the same thing.

--

Enter The Silence to Know God ... and... accept life as the teacher.
Gloria Joy Greco
 e-mail me at : lodpressATnospamintercomm.com and visit our homepages at:
http://users.intercomm.com/larryn/
&
http://www.freeyellow.com/members/zg888/
Hope you enjoy them!
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 11:14:35 +0100
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
To: "Cari J. Williams, PhD" <cariATnospamhenge.com>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Unidentified subject!
Message-ID: <34CF0509.354DATnospamintercomm.com>

Cari J. Williams, PhD wrote:
>
> Can someone please help me to understand and solve a problem?
>
> I began meditating a month ago, and with that practice started to experience
> spontaneous kundalini energy sessions several times a day. I thought all
> was going well, and I took the opportunity to deepen my meditations and
> visualizations during those kundalini sessions.

GG
I would suggest you work very hard in making that spiritual connection
in the heart center and really surrender to God. With this knowing you
will feel safer and be able to allow kundalini to work within you on a
higher level. Kundalini works on the nervous system and if your body has
already suffered from weaking of the system you will have to be very
detached to watch the process. Kundalini is consciousness so it does
know what it is doing, but at the same time you have to be very directed
spiritually to be able to open up and allow the healing process to move
through out the body.

I have a dear friend with MS and she literally lives through her
meditations since her disease is pretty advanced. In spite of it she is
radiant and joyfull and feels very blessed. This is kundalini/spirit
working in her, she is heart centered and wonderful. She has been wheel
chair bound for quite a few years now and really has to save her energy
for what spirit shows her to do. She feels it is karma burning out and
she is happy to have the opportunity to rest in God.
>
>

Enter The Silence to Know God ... and... accept life as the teacher.
Gloria Joy Greco
 e-mail me at : lodpressATnospamintercomm.com and visit our homepages at:
http://users.intercomm.com/larryn/
&
http://www.freeyellow.com/members/zg888/
Hope you enjoy them!
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 10:54:29 +0100
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
To: PEGLUMPKIN <PEGLUMPKINATnospamaol.com>
CC: cariATnospamhenge.com, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Unidentified subject!
Message-ID: <34CF0053.6C20ATnospamintercomm.com>

PEGLUMPKIN wrote:
>
> In a message dated 98-01-28 11:01:45 EST, you write:
> From past comments of list members, I
> think at least a few others would agree with me in suggesting that you combine
> the medical technology available from traditional doctors with inner guidance
> and healing available through your continued spiritual practices. It might
> help to evaluate your life for the presence of stressors and pollutants,
> environmental and emotional. And if you take any herbs, be sure to read the
> labels. Some of them that are supposed to boost your immune system, like
> echinacea, say not to take them if you have an auto-immune disease. I don't
> know why.

GG
I would also suggest if you can get a hair analysis done, this actually
looks at the minerals, toxins etc in your body. All of the people who
have had this done that I know improved drastically, in fact, I found
that I had about 900% cooper in my body. I lived in Virginia City as a
child and played around the mines and the areas where they dumped the
dirt, plus I'm sure it is very high in the water so by using other
minerals...maninly magnesium to dump the copper I started to improve
immediately. I was becoming allergic to just about everything, now I can
be around flowers and plants without any problem and even around
Christmas trees or outside when the lawn is mowed.

Everyone is different so the hair analysis is really the only way to see
it and it has to be done with this very expensive atomic equipment. I
can put you in touch with where to go if you are interested. I also
found that I was extremely low in potassium and sodium. Others have
toxics like lead and others, many others.
>
> Peg

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