1998/01/28  02:14  
 kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #84 
  
kundalini-l-d Digest				Volume 98 : Issue 84
 
Today's Topics: 
  Taking a Break                        [ WaterFall <watrfallATnospamniagara.com> ] 
  Re: Taking a Break                    [ "R Wondga" <falconATnospaminame.com> ] 
  Re: fighting fear                     [ RadiantTch <RadiantTchATnospamaol.com> ] 
  Re: fighting fear                     [ Blythe <merlinATnospampnn.com> ] 
  Re: fighting fear                     [ Harsha1MTM <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com> ] 
  Ear Ringing Poll RESULTS              [ SchrLL <SchrLLATnospamaol.com> ] 
  Re: throat chakra and sleep           [ SchrLL <SchrLLATnospamaol.com> ] 
  Re: fighting fear                     [ SchrLL <SchrLLATnospamaol.com> ] 
  Re: Taking a Break                    [ Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.co ] 
  Re: Holographic connection            [ Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.co ] 
  AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Cen  [ "mark s. waind" <gandm.waindATnospamsympat ] 
  Re: Ear Ringing Poll RESULTS          [ Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.co ] 
  AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Cen  [ "Mark S. Waind" <gandm.waindATnospamsympat ] 
  Re: fighting fear                     [ merlinATnospampnn.com ] 
  Re: throat chakra and sleep           [ Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.co ] 
  Re: HRTZEN: Holographic connection    [ Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic ] 
  Re: HRTZEN: Re: Holographic connecti  [ anandajyoti <anandajyotiATnospamgeocities. ] 
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 14:23:11 -0500 
From: WaterFall <watrfallATnospamniagara.com> 
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> Subject: Taking a Break 
> Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 07:07:59 +1300 
> From: WaterFall <watrfallATnospamniagara.com> 
> To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
>  
> Just a quick note to let everyone know that I'm going to be leaving the 
> list for awhile. I dropped in here about 2 years ago and was so 
> impressed with the quality of people on this list, that I never left:) 
> So take care everyone.... namaste 
>  
>  My health has really been screwed up in the last few months. I'm being 
> checked out for hypothyroidism... (throat chakra, again:) But it makes 
> me very dozey in mind and body. 
>  
> it's been a pleasure... 
> Nancy Kar/Eckert 
> WaterFall in spirit 
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Just a quick note to let everyone know that I'm going to be leaving the 
list for awhile. I dropped in here about 2 years ago and was so 
impressed with the quality of people on this list, that I never left:) 
So take care everyone.... namaste
 
 My health has really been screwed up in the last few months. I'm being 
checked out for hypothyroidism... (throat chakra, again:) But it makes 
me very dozey in mind and body.
 
it's been a pleasure... 
Nancy Kar/Eckert 
WaterFall in spirit 
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 11:51:48 -0800 
From: "R Wondga" <falconATnospaminame.com> 
To: <watrfallATnospamniagara.com> 
Cc: <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com> 
Subject: Re: Taking a Break 
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Hi Nancy 
Here is a site that has something that may help you, and anyone else for 
that matter, feel better. It is excerpts from a book called "The Game Of 
Life and how to Play It", written by Florence Scovel Shinn, a little known 
metaphysics teacher and artist in New York in the early part of the century. 
The book was published in 1925. Her words have helped me emensly on my path. 
God Bless http://www.concentric.net/~conure/gam_ndx.shtml 
love and light 
namaste ashtu 
Bob
 
>Just a quick note to let everyone know that I'm going to be leaving the 
>list for awhile. I dropped in here about 2 years ago and was so 
>impressed with the quality of people on this list, that I never left:) 
>So take care everyone.... namaste 
> 
> My health has really been screwed up in the last few months. I'm being 
>checked out for hypothyroidism... (throat chakra, again:) But it makes 
>me very dozey in mind and body. 
> 
>it's been a pleasure... 
>Nancy Kar/Eckert 
>WaterFall in spirit 
> 
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 16:05:32 EST 
From: RadiantTch <RadiantTchATnospamaol.com> 
To: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: fighting fear 
Message-ID: <e2566610.34ce4c1eATnospamaol.com> 
 
Blythe,
 
Heeheehee, I've had the same results, and ain't it wonderful?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Blessings, sister, 
Barbara Ellen
 
<< Once upon a time, back when I was a construction worker, the other woman on 
 the crew and I were hated by our crew boss. Our presence seemed to enrage 
 her. We tried shielding ourselves with Light. We tried prayer and calling on 
 *----*. We tried 'being good'. 
 Eventually we went to a friend to ask for suggestions . That person listened 
 to our stories, and said that everything we had been doing served to 
 strengthen our fear and our boss's anger. He told us to  
 consciously open our bellies and heart to pull in all the vituperation and 
 hate, raising it up our spines and out the top to offer it with all our love 
 to *-----*. Opening to the dark side of this woman, rather than trying to 
 protect ourselves and close it out, removed all power from what our crew 
 boss was hurling at us. We both wound up higher than kites, alight with 
 loving *----*, and riding on that energy. The more furious our crewboss 
 became at us, the more blissed out on *----* we were. Our crew boss never 
 stopped hating our presence in her life, but rather than continue to try to 
 make our lives miserable, she moved to a different crew. 
 Opening up to another's hatred was scarey at first. It is still very hard 
 for me to remember to do, especially if I am surprised by yuck. It surely 
 works though. 
  
 Blessings, 
 Blythe >> 
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 15:55:52 -0800 (PST) 
From: Blythe <merlinATnospampnn.com> 
To: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: fighting fear 
Message-Id: <199801272355.PAA12378ATnospampnn.com> 
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>At 06:11 AM 1/27/98, Yu wrote: 
> 
>>When they show their dark side 
>>to you(this is one kind of negative situation), you will feel fear(one 
>kind of 
>>negtive feeling); ignore your fear, don't follow your fear, relax on 
>the holy 
>>one which causes everything, good or bad. Holy one can destory a 
>temple, 
>>Holy one can also save a temple. 
> 
>Once upon a time, back when I was a construction worker, the other woman 
>on 
>the crew and I were hated by our crew boss. Our presence seemed to 
>enrage 
>her. We tried shielding ourselves with Light. We tried prayer and 
>calling on 
>*----*. We tried 'being good'. 
>Eventually we went to a friend to ask for suggestions . That person 
>listened 
>to our stories, and said that everything we had been doing served to 
>strengthen our fear and our boss's anger. He told us to  
>consciously open our bellies and heart to pull in all the vituperation 
>and 
>hate, raising it up our spines and out the top to offer it with all our 
>love 
>to *-----*. Opening to the dark side of this woman, rather than trying 
>to 
>protect ourselves and close it out, removed all power from what our crew 
>boss was hurling at us. We both wound up higher than kites, alight with 
>loving *----*, and riding on that energy. The more furious our crewboss 
>became at us, the more blissed out on *----* we were. Our crew boss 
>never 
>stopped hating our presence in her life, but rather than continue to try 
>to 
>make our lives miserable, she moved to a different crew. 
>Opening up to another's hatred was scarey at first. It is still very 
>hard 
>for me to remember to do, especially if I am surprised by yuck. It 
>surely 
>works though. 
> 
>Blessings, 
>Blythe 
> 
> 
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 22:56:15 EST 
From: Harsha1MTM <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com> 
To: yzhangATnospamcs.ubc.ca, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: fighting fear 
Message-ID: <6136cea9.34ceac60ATnospamaol.com> 
 
In a message dated 98-01-27 08:27:14 EST, yzhangATnospamcs.ubc.ca writes:
 
<< Just like a famous Tibetian saint told his student: 
 "If you feel good, OK, don't care, continue your training. 
   If you feel bad, OK, don't care, continue your training." >>
 
Harsha apologizes in advance but cannot resist and adds with a smile: 
If you stop your training, OK, don't care, don't feel bad 
If you continue your training, OK, don't care, don't feel good!
 
The main theme is  "OK, don't care!"
 
With love and humor---Harsha 
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 23:02:01 EST 
From: SchrLL <SchrLLATnospamaol.com> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Ear Ringing Poll RESULTS 
Message-ID: <fe3b96fc.34ceadbaATnospamaol.com> 
 
ATnospam->->--Hi list!  
In the poll I asked, How many of you out there have experienced ear ringing 
to any significant degree? Give me your responses and feedback. 
 
The responses poured in and there were over 20 of you who indicated a lot of 
ear rining. There were fiveof us, including myself, who indicate this has been 
happening to them since the 70´s.  Several others indicated that it has been 
going on for a long period of time. For others it is a new phenomenon and some 
hear other sounds too. Many indicated the sounds occured abruptly and some are 
a steady presence. Some indicated that the ear ringing could be brought on by 
such things as meditation, kundalini activity and dream work. Some said that 
ear ringing has been attributed to spirit guides and mediumship. Some feel 
that it is a form of intelligent communication and  that they wished there was 
a way to interpret or understand it better.
 
I hope that those of you who have not yet responded, will do so. I believe it 
is helpful to us all to know what experiences we share and perhaps how to 
manage them and understand them. One person asked, What are you going to do 
with the results of the poll? I think anyalsis is in order.  Also, this is a 
special interest of mine. I USE the ear ringing. To me it IS a form of 
communication. I think we can pick up´ emanations and I try to find ways to 
interpret them. Do you? 
Love and Light, Linda 
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 23:08:28 EST 
From: SchrLL <SchrLLATnospamaol.com> 
To: shawebbATnospamyhc.edu 
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: throat chakra and sleep 
Message-ID: <e84b4d00.34ceaf3eATnospamaol.com> 
 
In a message dated 98-01-25 02:34:22 EST, you write:
 
<< The sleepy stage lasted in me for about six weeks.  Although I was quite 
sure it was part and parcel of k, I've never seen an explanation of this until 
your post. >> 
I once visited a Kundalini Yoga ashram in San Rafael, CA. When I inquired 
about the constant yawning I was experiencing, they said it was a symptom of 
K. 
Love and Light, Linda 
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 23:26:29 EST 
From: SchrLL <SchrLLATnospamaol.com> 
To: merlinATnospampnn.com 
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: fighting fear 
Message-ID: <f6398f85.34ceb377ATnospamaol.com> 
 
In a message dated 98-01-27 12:23:28 EST, you write:
 
<< make our lives miserable, she moved to a different crew. 
 Opening up to another's hatred was scarey at first. It is still very hard 
 for me to remember to do, especially if I am surprised by yuck. It surely 
 works though. 
  
 Blessings, 
 Blythe >> 
 ATnospam->->-- Reminds me of a quote, "Love your enemies. It will drive them crazy!" 
;-)     Linda 
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 20:06:43 +0100 
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com> 
To: watrfallATnospamniagara.com 
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: Taking a Break 
Message-ID: <34CE3041.6BDATnospamintercomm.com> 
 
WaterFall wrote: 
>  
>  
>  My health has really been screwed up in the last few months. I'm being 
> checked out for hypothyroidism... (throat chakra, again:) But it makes 
> me very dozey in mind and body. 
>  
> it's been a pleasure... 
> Nancy Kar/Eckert 
> WaterFall in spirit
 
Nancy, keep in touch, our love goes with you. Gloria Joy
 
-- 
 
Enter The Silence to Know God ... and... accept life as the teacher.  
Gloria Joy Greco  
 e-mail me at : lodpressATnospamintercomm.com and visit our homepages at: 
http://users.intercomm.com/larryn/ 
&  
http://www.freeyellow.com/members/zg888/ 
Hope you enjoy them! 
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 20:39:56 +0100 
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com> 
To: hlutharATnospambryant.edu 
CC: Ed Arrons <eeaATnospamaug.com>, anandajyoti <anandajyotiATnospamgeocities.com>, 
 FRANCES G GRISSOM <SMARTDOLPHINATnospamprodigy.net>, 
 Ruth Trimble <trimbleATnospamhawaii.edu>, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com, 
 heartzenATnospamlistserv.servtech.com 
Subject: Re: Holographic connection 
Message-ID: <34CE3808.24B8ATnospamintercomm.com> 
 
Harsh Luthar wrote: 
>  
> Ed Arrons wrote: 
>  
> > Harsha writes: Some say that Reality is Subjective, some say it is Objective and 
> > some say it is both Objective and Subjective and some say it is neither. Some say 
> > the the Final State is that of Pure Existence, some say it is Only Pure 
> > Non-Existence and some say It is beyond both Existence and Non-Existence. No 
> > matter, how clever the terminology and how subtle the expression of the 
> > experience of the Self, it misses the mark. It is because the Self has no point 
> > of Reference in experience being *It Self* the very Foundation on which All 
> > experience appears to take place..
 
Gloria here: 
 It is also because what takes one from the stillness is the 
conversation so the words themselves produce the ripple effect that is 
also a part of the illusion. But when these words are from Divine Will 
the power is still with them and the clarity can be transmitted in spite 
of the fact that the illusion is in place. Does this make any sense?  
>  
>   Harsha
 
-- 
 
Enter The Silence to Know God ... and... accept life as the teacher.  
Gloria Joy Greco  
 e-mail me at : lodpressATnospamintercomm.com and visit our homepages at: 
http://users.intercomm.com/larryn/ 
&  
http://www.freeyellow.com/members/zg888/ 
Hope you enjoy them! 
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 18:59:33 -1000 (HST) 
From: "mark s. waind" <gandm.waindATnospamsympatico.ca> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center  
Message-Id: <199801280459.SAA03772ATnospamhaleakala.aloha.net>
 
Dear Fellow Searchers,Seekers, and Experiencers of the Sacred Sine Wave:
 
The following is an excerpt from an article by Karin Hannigan entitled, 
"Kundalini & the Awakening of the Spirit":
 
YOGIC PHENOMENA - Some people find themselves performing yogic postures 
or mudra gestures which they have never lesarned or could not do in a  
normal state of consciousness.  Similarly, they may produce Sanskrit  
words or sounds, or have an awareness of inner music or sound, mantras 
or tones.  Unusual breathing patterns may appear with either very rapid 
or slow shallow breathing. Some people may not breathe al all for  
extended periods.
 
The above paragraph relates to phenomena that I am very familiar with. 
If you have experienced anything like what is mentioned in Karin's  
article, I would very much appreciate you getting in touch with me. 
I believe we could be of assistance to each other's spiritual 
development. 
 
Most Sincerely,
 
Mark S. Waind,  e mail: gandmwaindATnospamsympatico.ca
 
 
 
O 
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 21:01:48 +0100 
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com> 
To: SchrLL <SchrLLATnospamaol.com> 
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: Ear Ringing Poll RESULTS 
Message-ID: <34CE3D27.EB1ATnospamintercomm.com> 
 
SchrLL wrote:
 
Gloria here: 
 Ear ringing and sounds are perfectly natural in fact I have sound in my 
right ear 24 hours a day and when it moves into my left ear it usually 
is a sign that I'm leaving the body for other dimensions. So, this is 
nothing other then a realization of the inner process. The thing is that 
you notice it and keep on going so that you don't give it energy. There 
are so many of these things that if we were to notice every one all we 
would do is talk about them.  
 I'm been in the process for many years and because of this I really 
don't give body sensations a second thought, this last week I had a very 
powerful week that made me catch my breath but even it was nothing but 
the process. When it is over we will notice that we aren't here anymore.  
>  
> ATnospam->->--Hi list! 
> In the poll I asked, How many of you out there have experienced ear ringing 
> to any significant degree? Give me your responses and feedback. 
>  
>  
Enter The Silence to Know God ... and... accept life as the teacher.  
Gloria Joy Greco  
 e-mail me at : lodpressATnospamintercomm.com and visit our homepages at: 
http://users.intercomm.com/larryn/ 
&  
http://www.freeyellow.com/members/zg888/ 
Hope you enjoy them! 
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 19:08:00 -1000 (HST) 
From: "Mark S. Waind" <gandm.waindATnospamsympatico.ca> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center  
Message-Id: <199801280508.TAA07118ATnospamhaleakala.aloha.net>
 
Dear Fellow Searchers,Seekers, and Experiencers of the Sacred Sine Wave:
 
The following is an excerpt from an article by Karin Hannigan entitled, 
"Kundalini & the Awakening of the Spirit":
 
YOGIC PHENOMENA - Some people find themselves performing yogic postures 
or mudra gestures which they have never learned or could not do in a  
normal state of consciousness.  Similarly, they may produce Sanskrit  
words or sounds, or have an awareness of inner music or sound, mantras 
or tones.  Unusual breathing patterns may appear with either very rapid 
or slow shallow breathing. Some people may not breathe al all for  
extended periods.
 
The above paragraph relates to phenomena that I am very familiar with. 
If you have experienced anything like what is mentioned in Karin's  
article, I would very much appreciate you getting in touch with me. 
I believe we could be of assistance to each other's spiritual 
development. 
 
Most Sincerely,
 
Mark S. Waind,  e mail: gandmwaindATnospamsympatico.ca
 
 
 
O 
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 21:26:18 -0800 (PST) 
From: merlinATnospampnn.com 
To: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: fighting fear 
Message-Id: <199801280526.VAA21613ATnospampnn.com>
 
In a message dated 98-01-27 12:23:28 EST, you write:
 
 ATnospam->->-- Reminds me of a quote, "Love your enemies. It will drive them crazy!" 
;-)     Linda
 
Even more years ago, when I was a teenager, a woman back in Cleveland told me  
the following: if you can't love your enemy, love their favorite chair. It'll  
make them itch  when they sit in it. 
;D 
Blythe  
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 21:03:05 +0100 
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com> 
To: SchrLL <SchrLLATnospamaol.com> 
CC: shawebbATnospamyhc.edu, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: throat chakra and sleep 
Message-ID: <34CE3D73.3F8CATnospamintercomm.com> 
 
SchrLL wrote: 
>  
> In a message dated 98-01-25 02:34:22 EST, you write: 
>  
> << The sleepy stage lasted in me for about six weeks.  Although I was quite 
> sure it was part and parcel of k, I've never seen an explanation of this until 
> your post. >> 
> I once visited a Kundalini Yoga ashram in San Rafael, CA. When I inquired 
> about the constant yawning I was experiencing, they said it was a symptom of 
> K. 
> Love and Light, Linda
 
Gg 
Just as you have times when you sleep a lot you will also have times 
when you don't sleep at all, and it doesn't make a bit of difference. GG
 
-- 
 
Enter The Silence to Know God ... and... accept life as the teacher.  
Gloria Joy Greco  
 e-mail me at : lodpressATnospamintercomm.com and visit our homepages at: 
http://users.intercomm.com/larryn/ 
&  
http://www.freeyellow.com/members/zg888/ 
Hope you enjoy them! 
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 01:06:13 -0600 
From: Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic.net> 
To: heartzenATnospamlistserv.servtech.com 
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com 
Subject: Re: HRTZEN: Holographic connection 
Message-Id: <l03010d01b0f48794951cATnospam[207.71.51.65]> 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
 
>> > Harsha writes: Some say that Reality is Subjective, some say it is 
>>Objective and 
>> > some say it is both Objective and Subjective and some say it is 
>>neither. Some say 
>> > the the Final State is that of Pure Existence, some say it is Only Pure 
>> > Non-Existence and some say It is beyond both Existence and 
>>Non-Existence. No 
>> > matter, how clever the terminology and how subtle the expression of the 
>> > experience of the Self, it misses the mark. It is because the Self has 
>>no point 
>> > of Reference in experience being *It Self* the very Foundation on 
>>which All 
>> > experience appears to take place.. 
> 
>Gloria here: 
>	It is also because what takes one from the stillness is the 
>conversation so the words themselves produce the ripple effect that is 
>also a part of the illusion. But when these words are from Divine Will 
>the power is still with them and the clarity can be transmitted in spite 
>of the fact that the illusion is in place. Does this make any sense?
 
There is no conversation in THAT experience.  There are no words.  There is 
no one to speak.  And no one to hear.  Only All.
 
Ann 
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 23:09:41 -0800 
From: anandajyoti <anandajyotiATnospamgeocities.com> 
To: lodpressATnospamintercomm.com 
CC: hlutharATnospambryant.edu, Ed Arrons <eeaATnospamaug.com>, 
 FRANCES G GRISSOM <SMARTDOLPHINATnospamprodigy.net>, 
 kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com, heartzenATnospamlistserv.servtech.com 
Subject: Re: HRTZEN: Re: Holographic connection 
Message-ID: <34CED981.36DF9D3CATnospamgeocities.com> 
 
Gloria Greco wrote:
 
> Harsh Luthar wrote: 
> > 
> > Ed Arrons wrote: 
> > 
> > > Harsha writes: Some say that Reality is Subjective, some say it is Objective and 
> > > some say it is both Objective and Subjective and some say it is neither. Some say 
> > > the the Final State is that of Pure Existence, some say it is Only Pure 
> > > Non-Existence and some say It is beyond both Existence and Non-Existence. 
> 
> Gloria here: 
>         It is also because what takes one from the stillness is the 
> conversation so the words themselves produce the ripple effect that is 
> also a part of the illusion. But when these words are from Divine Will 
> the power is still with them and the clarity can be transmitted in spite 
> of the fact that the illusion is in place. Does this make any sense? 
> >
 
Anandajyoti writes> 
The way I look at it from my own experience, that when we see illusions then it implies 
that we are experiencing something which in fact has no existence as we experience it. 
The classical example is that of the experience of considering a twist of a rope as a 
snake on the ground  in the dark bushy trail.
 
In order to simply understand the phenomena or the experience, we may imagine a cup of 
milk being poured in another cup of milk, when they are together, there is no difference 
of the milk of one cup to the other. 
In our normal consciousness we are most of the time identifying our existence as being 
either the body, mind, intelligence, ego, feelings, knowledge, emotions, and/or in 
conjunction  with the SELF.  We need to ponder over this scenario , each of us. Only when 
all these attributes of the SELF we allude to be ourselves becomes  evanescent from our 
ideas and yet with full awareness, only then the SELF alone is there, without any point 
of reference to compare with. Whatever the experience is at this level of consciousness, 
is simply beyond compare. 
I find that we have accepted the attributes of our SELF as the SELF. If I may call these 
attributes of the SELF and all that is in the Universe as shadows, and  consider these 
shadows to be the SELF, then I think , it  would be erroneous. All is within the SELF. 
Once I realize that the shadow is the shadow and the essence is the SELF and SELF is the 
essence, then I am experiencing the shadow as shadow and the SELF as the SELF. 
So does it mean then that we give up the shadow, I don't think so. To live in the body, 
all we need to do is understand/experience  the shadow as shadow and the essence as the 
essence. 
So in order to live in this world of duality, and yet know or experience our essence, and 
live our lives from that experience, is the way to go . 
If I consider this body as mine, this itself is an idea, and only this idea is mine. 
This body is not mine , yet indisputably there exists the idea that it is mine. If I 
examine this closely, then I discover  this "mine" is also an idea. I can say that this 
idea is mine., not the body. 
The moment I see my body as me, that very moment we have brought down our consciousness 
to the material plane. So, I would call it a distortion of the relationship between this 
body and me , the SELF. 
The theory of illusion or the Maya Theory of the Hindus has been misinterpreted, by 
saying that this world is an illusion. I don't think  so. The theory if correctly 
interpreted would mean to recognize the shadow as shadow and essence as essence.. 
To the nearest approximation at which I can touch the reality is considering  the shadow 
as shadow , is myself. Does the shadow get bound anything? 
So the nearest point I can get this SELF KNOWLEDGE is here. Although the SELF is all 
pervading, Omnipresent,  The Omnipresence is most easily accessible here, in our own 
SELF. 
The same reality is all pervading, Omnipresent and the shadow is also Omnipresent. 
Just as the Reality of the SELF in enshrouded by our not realizing, experiencing  it here 
in our body, so also the reality as we know it in the material plane, is everywhere 
enshrouded by the shadow too. 
The shadow is ever changing and the Reality is never changing. 
So in our depths of consciousness we come face to face with these two aspects. The shadow 
and the Reality, in our meditations. When we come out of the meditation, I see people, I 
see the table and the bookcase. 
What is true within is also true out here in the external.. If we have the shadow and the 
essence  in the external, we also have the shadow and the essence within us. 
A very simple real life example would be when we go to see a movie in the theater. 
If we arrive in the theater a bit early, before the show starts, then we would see the 
bright, white screen, untainted and unblemished.. 
The lights gradually go off, the movie starts. Our consciousness and awareness is also 
changing at the time. From the bright white screen , suddenly we become aware of the 
moving pictures of the movie. We look at heroes , heroines, the bad  and the good 
characters portrayed on the screen.  We cry with them , we laugh with them, we are sad 
with them, we are happy with them. Then we see a fire on the screen, our body reacts too, 
in such circumstances, as though they were all  in real life. 
But  in spite of the fire which is really seen on the screen , it does not even touch the 
screen behind, the screen does not burn, it stays as pure and bright, beautiful as it is.
 
When we are able to have an awareness of the existence of the screen and the moving 
pictures on the screen simultaneously, like double consciousness, then we know both, 
isn't it. Not separately but simultaneously. 
So in life , we need to joyfully participate in the movie and yet knowing , experiencing 
and realizing that it is only a shadow. We recognize the faces on the screen and also 
keep in awareness that it is only a shadow on the screen, and the screen in untouched by 
anything which goes on as moving pictures on it. The discrimination or Viveka, is to 
differentiate between the shadow and the essence. 
I crave for the shadow, thinking that is the essence, and real non-craving or Vairagya is 
the natural result of my understanding that this is all shadow, and I should give it the 
dignity of the shadow, which is appropriate. I cannot ignore this shadow and I cannot 
deny its existence. Nor can I deny the existence of the screen, the SELF. 
So also in  life, we must treat any other with love, respect, care, comfort affection and 
whatever is needed to maintain any relationship., whether it be that of parents and 
children, husband and wife, or friends and friends, employer and  employee , whatever the 
relationship may be. 
When we live from this experience of the double awareness, then our lives become truly 
blessed. 
We  may call the essence, God, Jesus, Jehovah, Krishna, or Universal SELF, they are the 
manifestation of our ideas of the Supreme, which is indescribable in words, for we cannot 
name the INFINITE in terms of anything  FINITE, for if we do we limit it and make it 
finite,. 
Even these are nothing but ideas. Experiential awareness of it , and the joyful 
participation in all our relationships , with love , honor, dignity, affection, 
compassion, mutual respect  are a few to name is the only way, for a better world.
 
Anandajyoti 
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