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1998/01/22 08:29
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #73


kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 73

Today's Topics:
  Re: Ok i'm a chicken.... [ Harsha1MTM <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com> ]
  Re: EAR RINGING POLL [ Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic ]
  Re: Ear Ringing [ David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net> ]
  RE: Is it this way for anyone else ? [ sassiATnospamworldnet.att.net (Jack) ]
  Re: Ear Ringing:environmental guidan [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistres ]
  re:ghosts portals was rope, water.. [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistres ]
  Re: Einstein [ "Jason S. White" <zymphtATnospambluewin.ch ]
  Re: mini rant [ Meadowart <MeadowartATnospamaol.com> ]
  Re: Ok i'm a chicken.... [ Meadowart <MeadowartATnospamaol.com> ]
  RE: Crystal Skull [ sassiATnospamworldnet.att.net (Jack) ]
  Re: Unidentified subject! [ Meadowart <MeadowartATnospamaol.com> ]
  Re: fighting fear [ Meadowart <MeadowartATnospamaol.com> ]
  Re: Unidentified subject! [ DroldhamATnospamra.rockwell.com ]
  Re: Ok i'm a chicken.... [ "Debora A. Orf" <dorf01ATnospammail.win.or ]
  Introduction [ "Alvin T. Perhacs" <atpATnospambluestone.c ]
  Re: ears and eyes/death & dying [ "Orea de Sa' Hana" <oreaATnospamerols.com> ]
  Re: Comparison of Religious Theory i [ amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us ]
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 23:02:18 EST
From: Harsha1MTM <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com>
To: dorf01ATnospammail.win.org, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Ok i'm a chicken....
Message-ID: <de502980.34c6c4e0ATnospamaol.com>

In a message dated 98-01-21 14:06:46 EST, dorf01ATnospammail.win.org writes:

<< so i thought 'Hey i'll ask the experts :)' what does prolonged meditation
 combined with sleep deprivation do? >>

Harsha writes: Advanced students and adepts of Kundalini Yoga and Meditation
reduce sleep to prolong different Superconscious and Samadhi states. Sleep
reduction should be done very cautiously and with guidance and is not proper
for everyone. It is always best to be natural and engage in spiritual
practices with which one feels comfortable. There is no need to strain. The
flowers bloom without effort and the grass grows by itself.

Harsha
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 00:07:20 -0600
From: Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Cc: M <chooseagainATnospamthegrid.net>
Subject: Re: EAR RINGING POLL
Message-Id: <l03010d01b0ec908892b6ATnospam[207.71.51.224]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

M <chooseagainATnospamthegrid.net> wrote:
>
>My ear ringing began the day before this post, 1/17/98 about noon and by
>1/19/98 pm I told all the Powers that be that I was so miserable I would
>kill myself if it did not stop...and I meant it.
>
>I can now get it to stop most of the time. I have stopped all medication (I
>was on a ton of supplements) and keep my head as still as possible. I feel
>immobilized by this but prefer it to the pain, torture really, of a few days
>ago.

I have noise in my ears all the time. I usually keep the TV on - it fights
my noise with music, people's voices, etc. And if I get interested enough
in a TV program, writing a letter, or reading a book, I don't notice the
noise for a while.
>
>I am on the edge here...everything seems to be leaving me. Another disaster
>today has me nearly suicidal. I do not know where to turn next.

What else has happened? Something else, besides the noise?

Write to us, tell us about it. There are a lot of good people here who
want to help.

You can write to the list or pick someone - or two or three - and write
privately. But stay connected, okay? Stay in touch!

Love,
Ann
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 01:30:56 -0500
From: David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net>
To: Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Ear Ringing
Message-ID: <34C6E7A0.6213ATnospammail.snet.net>

nkognito wrote:

> I am wondering if anyone else has ever felt
> like they were picking up "subliminal messages" (for lack of a better term)
> from the t.v. or radio? As if that message was directed there just for
> your ears? Maybe I have an over active imagination. Just curious.

She communicates through everything.
Words come streaming through these mediums all the time in precise
timing to my thoughts more then chance could bear.

Enjoy it.
Say thank-you.

David
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 05:43:34 GMT
From: sassiATnospamworldnet.att.net (Jack)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: RE: Is it this way for anyone else ?
Message-ID: <34cbcab0.45793032ATnospammailhost.worldnet.att.net>

Hours later, I surface from the dreamless, deep black limbo. My head
is vibrating with an irregularly modulating static buzz that makes me
feel irritable, on edge. My body feels weak, yet is hot and tense, as
if all my ligaments were being pulled too tight, and tied up in a
little knot at the top of my head.

On the nightstand is an unopened bottle of spring water. I open it and
drink several glasses. But it´s not enough to pull together a cohesive
unified field.

My body and my shadow stand, and begin to perform, in tandem, an
elaborate and seemingly random series of stretches and movements. I
let go,cooperate,try to feel my bodies´ intent then the
movements gain purpose and momentum,contraction, extension,
compression, drawing in and out, filtering, circulating, manipulating,
balancing, massaging the energy, directing it, pulling it back, closer
to the core.

When I finally stop, my body is light and fluid, but my head´s still
not completely clearThe fuzzy buzzing still lingers

Loki's been teaching me for weeks, but I'm still not sure what it
is that I´ve learned. Her lessons saturate all of our encounters at
levels that are still a mystery to me. Even when we seem to be
engaging in nothing more than normal conversation, a part of me is
absorbing the essence of something else ,something abstract that can´t
be described, that is absorbed deep within the silent meshings of my
awareness and is held there in secret unti I´m able to reach it ,to
embody it energetically.

The last time I´d seen Loki, we´d talked about the power of light. She
told me that we humans are creatures of light - that we resonate to
the energy of light's colours throughout every level of our being. She
began to describe the various hues of delicate silks that were draped
on sunlit windows in ancient Egypt. Asshe spoke, I was transported to
a large, cool, high ceilinged, room furnished with nothing but a few
simple wooden stools.The walls were made of huge blocks of cream
coloured limestone andit had a small west facing window. I could see
translucent, sunlit silks fluttering lazily in the window ... could
feel the hot, dry, intermittent breeze on my face and lips .... could
smell the dust and unfamiliar aromas of another place and time.

Loki´s voice bounced off the stone walls and echoed in the room,
eventhoughshe spoke softly, The Ancients knew the secrets of light
energy, but they lost the pure thrust, the abstract knowledge of it,
by indulging,as humans are wont to do.

I could hear the smile in her voice."erhaps you will understand
this,Croaton as you are such a lover of words and definitions,
words have the power to solidify things, to make them concrete,
immutable. That is what the ancients did, and it is what you still do
today .The universe, and everything in it, is constantly in motion.
Words carved in stone may seem to be timeless but stone is
vulnerable to the wind and elements ,every edifice crumbles to dust
in time .... "

"The ancients defined and redefined the secret of light energy until
they´d stripped it of all meaning. Their words were hollow they
imparted no pure knowledge of the power of light .... but they did
succeed admirably in obscuring the most basic truths "

"What are the most basic truths about the power of light energy?"
I asked.

Lokididn´t answer me and in a heartbeat, the vacuum created by her
silence pulled me back to where we actually were at the time.
Loki was smiling and relaxed, as if nothing had happened, her gaze
fixed on me. She turned to me and said casually,"Why don´t you ...
experiment with the colors of light and see for yourself"

After several minutes of on again/off again inner dialogue ... the
silence drowns out all sound .... and feeling prevails ... I sense
something ... a vibrational field around my head ... it feels as if I
have the energetic equivalent of herman munster bolts in my temples.
They buzz on a vertical plane, on either side of my head, in opposite
circular motion.

I close my eyes and focus on the sensation of the energetic bolts
until a new sensation dominates. A circle of energy is racing around
and around at the level of my forehead, in the center. The circle
extends out about a foot, on a horizontal plane. It begins to
accelerate. I go with it, following the motion with my eyes under
closed lids. This circular motion somehow affects the, so called,
energy bolts in my temples, which seem to diminish their activity.
After a few minutes, the feelings of motion cease altogether, as the
sensations in my head resolve into a unified vibration, almost like a
high pitch.

My attention is now focused on an obvious duality of my energy body. I
can feel the asynchrony of my two sides. The left side seems to be
made of many vertical bands, or strings, of rapidly vibrating energy.
The right side feels as if it´s spiralling chaotically. I go into the
asynchronous sensations and ride them. The ride is like a non-stop
roller coaster but I stay with it anyway. Gradually I feel my energy
halves beginning to synchronize. Their patterns superimpose into
something that gives me the impression of an active, energetic
Rorscharch blot in the center of my inner field of vision. The
intensity of the sensations diminishes eventually becoming a mild, but
pleasant, synchronous, full body buzz.

I know that it´s time to stop.

I put off thinking about this experience for as long as I can.
Thoughts are addictive. One thought leads to another, and then
another, and another and before you know it, you´ve got several mental
channels running simultaneously, cancelling out, with all their
static, the frequencies that have just barely been aligned. I take a
long, hot shower that washes the residue of fatigue and dessicated
cosmic crap from the surface.

Jack ( Croaton )
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 00:04:54
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: nkognito <nkognitoATnospamtcon.net>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Ear Ringing:environmental guidance
Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19980122000454.313f974eATnospamdomin8rex.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

  ... or one line of a song will catch your ear, and it's an answer to a
question you just thought? Or the T.V. will echo you perfectly for a line
or two.. or you will wonder something, and the fridge will start up? (The
furnace started as I wrote that.. I am too far away to hear the fridge.)
  You're not imagining it, and as you start to trust it more, this kind of
guidance will increase. Yes, it is just for you.. everything that is
outside you, is coming from inside..
  Here's the scoop: Goddess is limitless.. and outside of time and space..
being limitless, She knows what you will think next, and being outside of
time and space, She has plenty of time to twist synchronicity to answer
your question. She happens to think you are worth all that trouble...
That's unconditional love.
  Cosmic promise: we ask, She answers. Always. Immediately. Hearing Her
messages, tho, and trusting them is up to us.
  When a Shaman is moving in the forest, he might ask for permission to
drink at a stream. He will ask, and wait for a sign. A bird call, a branch
falling, a fish jumping is usually a yes. Silence is a no, and he will look
for another stream.
  Now Goddess has country singers and Twilight zone episodes to carry her
messages.. but notice what you were thinking or saying, just before the
blinds suddenly rattled in the wind, the pipes creaked, or the siren roared
by.. sirens for me, are a call to attention, a warning of fear.
  This is mindfullness... don't go overboard, looking for "Omens" and
such.. just be aware of when you notice it. If you start to focus on
listening for the furnace to start up, when you are wrestling with an
issue, that's not the point. When it calls to your attention, catches your
ear when your focus is elsewhere, it's usually Goddess answering you.
  Blessings, Mystress.

At 22:20 21/01/98 -0500, nkognito wrote:
>Hi to All,
>And one more curiosity here, I am wondering if anyone else has ever felt
>like they were picking up "subliminal messages" (for lack of a better term)
>from the t.v. or radio? As if that message was directed there just for
>your ears? Maybe I have an over active imagination. Just curious.
>
>Love and Light,
>Sherry
>
>
>
>
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 23:22:25
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: "Susan Carlson" <divine_goddessATnospamhotmail.com>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: re:ghosts portals was rope, water..
Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19980121232225.313f98a8ATnospamdomin8rex.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

 Thanks to both of you, for your thoughts..

At 15:46 18/01/98 PST, Susan Carlson wrote:
>Sharon writes:

> As Susan pointed out, "intent is everything." Whether or not we
> presume to do something like this as a group effort or to work as
> individuals, I think we need to examine our motives.
  My motives? When we were working with the ghosts, Moira and the little
girl, I asked the woman's heart voice, if it was time they came into the
light.
  "Long past time" the voice said, with so much love and warmth.. I was
moved.. and am moved, to the send others Home, if I can. I feel that it is
mine to do... the idea comes from Goddess, She is the source of creative
inspiration, and the limitless love it takes, for such a working.. She
touched me in my heart, in that place, for Her reasons.

  I have been moved to do some odd work at different times, in the astral..
one of the oddest, was doing work on healing England's grief, it turned
into a worldwide healing, Lady Di herself was called to participate.. not
expected by me at all, when I began, it just flowed into happening, very
naturally. I ended up sending her into the light, after.. very moving..
now she is an occasional spirit guide... I still shake my head and wonder,
why me? When psychics all over the world must have been focused on her.. I
have been told, it was a resonance of mission.. I dunno, I'm the ground
crew.. I get impulsed to shine light in dark places, Goddess always dazzles
me with beauty, jewels come to light... I feel blessed.
>
>SW:
> The portal idea works, but disguising a place of light with
> darkness in order to lure a being toward it, may be far from a
>kindness.
  Tricking them, was not in my mind. Rather, I am seeking a place of
consensuality.
  I cannot speak to them and address thier concerns individually, but I can
provide love and ask Goddess, the Angels, guides, their higher selves to do
the rest.
  They put themselves under the guidance of the Captain, when they boarded
the ship, whether it is the energy body of the Titanic they are on, or not.
The Captain has the power of life and death, at sea.. That is why I am
making plans, with the Captain.
  The Captain went into the Light, I feel, but was drawn back by the
expectations of the spirits on board. He still feels responsible for what
happened, and all the jokes about the "Captain of the Titanic", he hears..
and he wants to "make good", in the only way left. Sailing the Titanic thru
the portal We will create... spirits who want to jump ship, will, I suppose.
 

>I have found in doing this process for about 7 years now...word has gone
>out on the astral plane that I can open (poor word) a door for
>transition to another level. So when I am doing Ho'oponopono for myself
>or for whatever reason, I have some astral 'stowaways' who catch hold of
>the energy for their own releasing.

  Some nights of magic working, I have noticed hundreds of beings, gathered
outside the house spell. Word is going out in the astral.. I have
specifically requested my house guards not to let anybody from the Titanic
in, except the Captain, until I am ready.. and I m not sure if it will
happen here in the house, or whether to chose someplace in Nature.. I had
an idea to sail it under the Lion's gate bridge, into Vancouver harbour,
and use the bridge itself as a portal.. but I think I'd get too many folks
caught in the energy.. I think it will happen entirely "elsewhere".. but I
am still listening for inspiration incoming.. and gathering support.
  I had considered going to the movie, and doing it quietly using the film
as a focus.. but again, a private showing would be best, my energy field
reaches out big doing this stuff.. and the movie might get all too real for
other moviegoers. Not fair, not very consensual..
  It occurs to me, that if the theatre staff is noticing hauntings, the
owner might be willing to arrange for a private showing, to end any odd
events happening. Hmmm...
  
  Came across an old post, someone asked for my house spell.. edited it a
little, to forward. It is to spiritproof your house, so your fountaining K.
doesn't attract ghosty parasites, wanting your attention to their long past
time problems. (Just like in the movie, Ghost.. except like Moira, the time
for action was long past, and she barely understood that she is dead.)
  ( the lighthouse spell: a general sketch of how to create such an energy
structure, is also available. Still working on writing the computer bubble
spell..)

  While writing the house spell, my slave druid had asked about one for his
condo.. so I cast it.. while I was doing that, druid spoke to Chacmool rain
God of the Yucatan. Chac has mantained a prescence inside my quartz
crystal, since I did psychometry on the idol at Chitchen Itza.
  druid was concerned that my creating a spell for him, would drain my own
house spell, stored under Chac's care in the crystal also.
  Chac said "She has to make one, for the planet"..
  Me make a house spell for the entire planet...??? Gulp!

  I am beginning to think, that whatever that means...! This is part of it.
I get the feeling, that when I am doing this working with the Titanic, it
is going to turn into something much bigger, than I am getting glimpses of,
now..
  I am the ground crew..
>
>My Kahuna friend was explicit in doing these rituals with permission. He
>and my other teacher told me, doing these rituals without permission,
>would mean i would take their karma upon myself.
  So it is I seek to find a place of agreement, but I must trust the Angels
to the details.. and be a very clear channel for the energy to move thru me
and not get stuck...

> For me it is Seva, a sanskrit word meaning selfless
>service;work offerred unto God or to the spiritual Master, performed
>with love and without concern for its benefits.
  Well, from a faith/logic point of view, I know that what we send out
returns threefold, so I don't worry much about payment.. what does a ghost
have to offer? I dunno, let Goddess do any accounting..

>On a personal note, the Ho'oponopono processes I do causes K to shiver
>my body in bliss.
>
>Much Love,
>Susan
  Well, that IS reassuring! I had asked, what one shiver x 600+ would feel
like.. nice to know it will be pleasant. Awesome and moving, possibly
exhausting and challenging, yes.. pleasurable, I hadn't considered. Well,
thankyou!
  Blessings, Mystress.
     ********
 
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 08:16:10 +0100
From: "Jason S. White" <zymphtATnospambluewin.ch>
To: "Afperry" <AfperryATnospamaol.com>, <gkiefferATnospamnetaxis.com>
Cc: <Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Einstein
Message-ID: <01bd2705$9d605da0$f610bac3ATnospamzympho.bluewin.ch>
Content-Type: text/plain;
 charset="US-ASCII"

Interested in further reading? Check "Quantum Questions" by Ken Wilber.

This is a collection of essays written by prominent scientists like
Einstein, Heisenberg, Schroedinger, DeBroglie, Planck, Pauli, etc. All the
essays deal with the unreconcilability of science and theology. They all
maintain that the people involved in this debate are asking the wrong
questions.

The gist is that science will always be a subset of theology or mysticism.
If only theology or mysticism would ever manage to lose its dogmatism.

Later,
Jason.
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 07:50:16 EST
From: Meadowart <MeadowartATnospamaol.com>
To: divine_goddessATnospamHOTMAIL.COM, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: mini rant
Message-ID: <6df6ca0a.34c7408aATnospamaol.com>

And shouts of "Right on! Tell it Sister!" were heard from the jostling masses.
It's lame to copy a two page document just to add the words "I agree" to the
end. Snip, Snip, Snip.
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 08:10:26 EST
From: Meadowart <MeadowartATnospamaol.com>
To: dorf01ATnospammail.win.org, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Ok i'm a chicken....
Message-ID: <ce893a0d.34c74544ATnospamaol.com>

You'll probably go through some catharsis. Defenses will be down. Should be a
great clearing!
  All the best,
   Deb
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 13:12:12 GMT
From: sassiATnospamworldnet.att.net (Jack)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: RE: Crystal Skull
Message-ID: <34ca4561.7280787ATnospammailhost.worldnet.att.net>

Someone mentioned this just recently. Came across this URL.

CRYSTALSKULL-LATnospammb.protree.com

Check Reference.Com for signup info.

Jack
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 08:21:55 EST
From: Meadowart <MeadowartATnospamaol.com>
To: sdelepteATnospamamnh.org, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Unidentified subject!
Message-ID: <fa2e708d.34c747f5ATnospamaol.com>

I wouldn't 'stave off the terrible bouts of anger and sadness'. Feel it all.
Let the kundalini work help you in clearing this out of your system. What we
suppress comes back stronger to be addressed. (My experience). Otherwise, your
facing a lifetime of 'anaesthesia' of one sort or another in order not to deal
with unpleasant feelings.
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 08:17:10 EST
From: Meadowart <MeadowartATnospamaol.com>
To: nkognitoATnospamtcon.net, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: fighting fear
Message-ID: <8cb3450e.34c746d8ATnospamaol.com>

Very traditional stuff if you peruse the pages of the Tibetan Book of the
Dead. The beautiful, light filled versions of the dieties will come to us
first to point out the light. If we don't take it, hang on for the
Herukas...the scariest sons-of-guns on the block...who will attempt to give
you the same message. Fleeing is out of the question if you're going to get
anywhere. Looking them straight in the eye, you walk through and get the
lesson.
   Sometimes we have to dance with the scariest parts of ourselves, but it's
all one.
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 09:36:04 -0500
From: DroldhamATnospamra.rockwell.com
To: sdelepteATnospamamnh.org, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Unidentified subject!
Message-ID: <85256594.004FBF19.00ATnospamraclesmtp01.cle.ra.rockwell.com>
Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII

These words are true and powerful. Live your life and break your
addiction.

kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com on 01/22/98 08:22:47 AM

To: sdelepteATnospamamnh.org, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
cc: (bcc: Daniel R Oldham/Cleveland/RA/Rockwell)
Subject: Re: Unidentified subject!

I wouldn't 'stave off the terrible bouts of anger and sadness'. Feel it
all.
Let the kundalini work help you in clearing this out of your system. What
we
suppress comes back stronger to be addressed. (My experience). Otherwise,
your
facing a lifetime of 'anaesthesia' of one sort or another in order not to
deal
with unpleasant feelings.
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 08:40:26 -0600 (CST)
From: "Debora A. Orf" <dorf01ATnospammail.win.org>
To: Harsha1MTM <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com>
cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Ok i'm a chicken....
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.980122082257.13940A-100000ATnospamwinc0>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

On Wed, 21 Jan 1998, Harsha1MTM wrote:

> In a message dated 98-01-21 14:06:46 EST, dorf01ATnospammail.win.org writes:
>
> practices with which one feels comfortable. There is no need to strain. The
> flowers bloom without effort and the grass grows by itself.

on my certificate that makes me an official something or another with the
Kwan Um School of Zen, this last sentence of yours appears a bit
differently in a poem by Zen Master Seung Sahn. He sys 'spring comes, the
grass grows by itself'

altho once i said i will probably be drug screaming and kicking to
enlightenment only to fall down laughing in the middle of it all.

Thank you for your reply :) Have a wonderfuly auspicious day

tashi delek :)

--janpa t.
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 09:44:49 -0500 (EST)
From: "Alvin T. Perhacs" <atpATnospambluestone.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Introduction
Message-Id: <Pine.SUN.3.95.980122091330.5667C-100000ATnospamzeus>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

Hello All,

I just wanted to introduce myself to you. I had been off of the list for
about a year, but now am back. My name is Al and I am an Internal Martial
arts instructor teaching Chinese Boxing, Pentjak Silat, and Internal Kung
Fu or Chi Kung.

I am very much involved in energy work and have a training video entitled
"Advanced Chi Power". I am currently working on volume two and three. I am
interested in the manifestations of energy from different viewpoints and
any way I might be able to help with healing or training please let me
know. By the same token I am very open minded to any techniques or methods
unfamiliar to myself and my associates that would be of benefit.

I am a Christian and believe that Jesus gave us the gift of healing and
others to help one another. I mean no disrespect to anyone's belief, but
just wanted to let you know where I am coming from.

I have a web site that has some very interesting articles on "CHI
MANIPULATION" that you may find interesting. I will be putting some new
articles up within the next couple of weeks. The subjects will be as
follows:

 * Chi Pressure vs Chi Density
 * Chi Disease. Is it Real?
 * The Difference between Remote Viewing and Astral Projection

Respectfully,

Al Perhacs
FOUR ZONE FIGHTING SYSTEMS Web Page
http://members.aol.com/fourzone
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 09:53:39 -0400
From: "Orea de Sa' Hana" <oreaATnospamerols.com>
To: morganaATnospambest.com, Kundalini List <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: ears and eyes/death & dying
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It's been a good number of years since I took them, but as I recall, the
weekend workshops were about $100 as of 1990. I hope they haven't gone
up too much.

(My mom paid my way because they were in my area and she wanted a ride!
I was only mildly interested, but I agreed to go to the first one
because she wanted to so badly. It opened a door to a whole part of
me that I had never known existed, reopened some psychic doors I had
slammed shut some 12 years earlier, and gave me the tools and confidence
to use my abilities. Thus, my gift of humoring my mother in regards to
the workshop was indeed returned to me a thousandfold. Nice moral!)

Blessings,

Orea
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 09:11:09 -0600
From: amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Comparison of Religious Theory in the Late 20th Century
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M brightened my day by writing:

> Comparison of Religious Theory in the Late 20th Century

I found this funny and fascinating at the same time. I have a T-shirt
similar to this, but it involves variations of "Shit Happens." For example
Hinduism: "This shit happened before."
<snipped>

> * Hari Krishna - He who plays with the most toys, wins.

This one is over my head, though. I guess I don't know much about Hari
Krishnas except that I used to buy magazines from them in the 60s.
Interesting garments (love the colors!) and chanting...

> * Voodoo - Let me borrow that doll for a second.

Too funny!

> * Baptist - Once played, always played.

This must refer to "once saved, always saved". My favorite thing about
Baptists. Kind of like a spiritual insurance policy.

> * Pentecostalism - He whose toys can talk, wins.

Another good one! I'll have to show this to my husband, who used to attend
a Pentecostal church. He'll get a charge out of it.

> * Confucianism - Once a toy is dipped in the water, it is no longer dry.

This one sounds like a koan. Which reminds me, isn't Buddhism missing from
the list?

Thanks for sharing this with us,
amckeon

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