1998/01/21  21:13  
 kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #72 
  
kundalini-l-d Digest				Volume 98 : Issue 72
 
Today's Topics: 
  fighting fear                         [ nkognito <nkognitoATnospamtcon.net> ] 
  Unidentified subject!                 [ Sarah Deleporte <sdelepteATnospamamnh.org> ] 
  Anne                                  [ Ray Morel <r.morelATnospamsympatico.ca> ] 
  Re: Meditations....                   [ Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic ] 
  Re: EAR RINGING POLL                  [ M <chooseagainATnospamthegrid.net> ] 
  Re: Ok i'm a chicken....              [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistres ] 
  Re: Broadcast                         [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistres ] 
  ear rining poll-sleep                 [ SchrLL <SchrLLATnospamaol.com> ] 
  Ear ringing                           [ Solar Lion <gtaATnospamcwnet.com> ] 
  Re: EAR RINGING POLL                  [ SchrLL <SchrLLATnospamaol.com> ] 
  Ear ringing                           [ Solar Lion <gtaATnospamcwnet.com> ] 
  Re: Dilbert                           [ David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net> ] 
  Re: meditations                       [ David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net> ] 
  Ear Ringing                           [ nkognito <nkognitoATnospamtcon.net> ] 
  Re: EAR RINGING POLL                  [ jaxx <jaxxATnospamihug.co.nz> ] 
  Re: Ear ringing                       [ M <chooseagainATnospamthegrid.net> ] 
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 15:52:48 -0500 
From: nkognito <nkognitoATnospamtcon.net> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: fighting fear 
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Dear Mystress,
 
Mystress quotes (with a few snips here & there) 
>Did you read Sherry's story & the young man who ended up in the mental 
hospital?>
 
.>Nothing to fear, but fear itself. These two are folks that let their fear 
run away with them. Fear creates. Focus on Love and trust. When fear gets 
out of control, it is because we are not choosing faith. Give the fear up 
to Goddess, to be reshaped into beauty.>
 
Since you have not walked in my shoes Mystress, I don't think you have a 
clue of what I was going through.  And yes, I could well have been in a 
mental institution myself had it not been the fact that it would have put a 
great financial hardship on my family if I was out of work for a long 
period of time.   So I chose to go to work, continue with family 
responsibilities, and chose everyday living in order to keep my family 
together.   At any rate.  I did not CHOOSE to be in fear.  It chose me. 
Ever heard of shamanism.  Well I will tell you myself that it was like 
fighting demons.  I didn't want it, didn't ask for it, but I got it anyway.   
 
I went into meditation to bring peace, love and joy into my life and get 
closer to God.  Not to fight with the darkness.  You have no idea what 
courage it took for me to not commit suicide in order to escape that fear. 
 But I can tell you, that I knew if I did not fight it, it would have 
consumed me. 
 
You make it sound as if it is so simple.  It was not that simple for me at 
that particular time in my life.  Everytime I felt I was getting closer to 
God, the more I felt this pull in the opposite direction.  Like being in a 
dark hole trying to climb out while something has your ankles and is trying 
to pull you in deeper.  (sounds like an X-file episode doesn't it). 
Anyway,  I certainly did not enjoy being in this state of mind.  And being 
as mentally unstable as I was at the time, the thought never crossed my 
mind that all I had to do was surrender to God.  I was too busy fighting 
for my life.   It wasn't like I could say:  "Gee, God I don't think I want 
to deal with right now, could you just put this on hold for a little while 
until I'm feeling better."
 
Now in retrospect several months after the fact, I can see that truth of 
surrendering to the will of God.  But it took this battle in order for me 
to see, know and understand this truth.   Perhaps other people have to find 
out the hard way, just as I did.  I was choosing faith.  I just had to take 
the long way home.   In my case, I had to face the darkness in order to see 
the light.  Just like when you look at the heavens at night and see the 
moon and stars above.
 
Love and Light, 
Sherry  
  
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 16:05:03 -0500 (EST) 
From: Sarah Deleporte <sdelepteATnospamamnh.org> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com 
Subject: Unidentified subject! 
Message-Id: <199801212105.QAA14560ATnospamscience.amnh.org> 
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Hello all, my name is Sarah and I'm new to the list.  I have only been to 2 
kundalini yoga classes in my life, but my mom & dad are into it, and my 
uncle is a kundalini teacher out on Cape Cod, and has undergone a radical 
spiritual change in his life over the last 10 years.  I would like to be as 
happy as he is someday!!
 
Anyways, I'm writing about a comment I received regarding pot smoking.  Who 
was it that wrote that she/he smokes it every day to help with mood swings? 
I am interested to hear more about that.  I smoke, too, and am dealing with 
some depression "issues".  St. John's Wort and THC help me to stave off 
terrible bouts of anger and sadness that, according to my mom, I've been 
having my whole life.  But I feel a tremendous amount of guilt for this - 
smoking - and I don't really know why.  I don't experience any side effects; 
I'm more debilitated by depression that ensues if I don't smoke than by 
smoking.  ANyways, if I could get rid of this guilty feeling that I should 
not be smoking, I think I could actually call myself a happy person.  What 
are your thoughts on that? 
Sarah 
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 16:29:45 -0800 
From: Ray Morel <r.morelATnospamsympatico.ca> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com 
Subject: Anne 
Message-ID: <34C692F9.2DB8ATnospamsympatico.ca> 
 
My apologies, I guess I have a hard time explaining alot of this stuff 
right now.  Actually up until I saw the faces, I didn't really have a 
grasp of a higher source to guide me through this, as a matter of fact, 
I had given up completely on wanting to see ANYTHING else.  I was afraid 
to close my eyes for fear of falling into another meditation by 
accident! 
I stayed up all night one night, not meditating, but praying. And 
praying hard because at the time I thought I had unleashed some satanic 
beign into my life and I begged fro guidance. 
The next morning I felt very relaxed and peaceful, I spent the day 
ignoring the urge to try the whole thing over, but was somehow guided 
back into a meditation, one of feeling protected.  And I am. 
I actually got up the nerve today to look into the mirror and see the 
faces.  There is nothing frightening there.  There is only a girl. She 
has my eyes, but darker hair and curly.  I can't tell you much else, she 
only comes for a moment. 
But anyway, the thing is that I do have an inner guidance.  I think I am 
exploring something that I was always meant to explore, but always 
ignored the signs. 
I am not trying to wake up anything on my own, I am simply going with 
the flow now, seeing where it wiil take me. 
By the way, you didn't really say anything wrong, so please don't feel 
bad.  You just have a protection instinct, which actually is very good.  
I think I can admire that! 
Take care, 
Love Tammy 
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 17:14:53 -0600 
From: Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic.net> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com 
Subject: Re: Meditations.... 
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Tammy (Ray Morel <r.morelATnospamsympatico.ca>) wrote:
 
>Just popping in to say that all is going well, and despite what Ann 
>says, I know I am not daydreaming, and I am not afraid.  I am learning 
>more everyday, and even thoughat the beginning I did spook myself...the 
>mirror thing was a complete surprise, some instinct led me to the mirror 
>for some reason, and I think it was for a reason. 
>I am trusting my instinct, and my teachers, which I do have by the way, 
>and they are not nessesarily books or people, but they are there....
 
>I believe that i do have guidance and my guide (although I have not 
>formally been introduced, it feels more like my instinct, the same thing 
>that led me to the mirror) has in fact slowed me down and led me to 
>places and people in here who help me....
 
>Someone is watching over me.
 
Wonderful!!  I didn't hear any indication of that, and that's why I was 
worried.
 
>I am not afraid to look at the faces in the mirror, I have an 
>understanding of who they are now, and if they are just me, then I have 
>nothing to be afraid of because I am not afraid of myself....
 
Good - it's always better to know yourself.
 
>I am not going to let anyone plant fear seeds,...
 
I apologize, Tammy.
 
>I will learn, just as you all have learned, by asking questions, and by 
>following the path that my higher power leads me to. 
> 
Blessings, 
Ann 
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 17:13:22 -0800 (PST) 
From: M  <chooseagainATnospamthegrid.net> 
To: sassiATnospamworldnet.att.net (Jack) 
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, samyanaATnospamhotmail.com 
Subject: Re: EAR RINGING POLL 
Message-Id: <199801220113.RAA20947ATnospammail.thegrid.net> 
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At 07:50 PM 1/18/98 GMT, Jack wrote:> 
>Since October I have received multiple impressions of a book. I feel 
>it's the same book but it has a different binding or cover each time. 
>since the book slamming I haven't received any impressions of the 
>book. 
>recently I have been getting quick flashes of different personalities, 
>mostly children, all are crying and all want me to do something that I 
>can't quite make out yet. 
>Have no idea what any of this means, if anything. 
>Jack
 
I am curious if Jack has had any further communication like this.
 
My ear ringing began the day before this post, 1/17/98 about noon and by 
1/19/98 pm I told all the Powers that be that I was so miserable I would 
kill myself if it did not stop...and I meant it.
 
I can now get it to stop most of the time.  I have stopped all medication (I 
was on a ton of supplements) and keep my head as still as possible.  I feel 
immobilized by this but prefer it to the pain, torture really, of a few days 
ago.
 
I am on the edge here...everything seems to be leaving me. Another disaster 
today has me nearly suicidal.  I do not know where to turn next.  
 
M    
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 16:51:50 
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com> 
To: "Debora A. Orf" <dorf01ATnospammail.win.org> 
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com 
Subject: Re: Ok i'm a chicken.... 
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   Hiya: 
   Not exactly an expert at the type of retreat you describe, but.. 
  I like sleep deprivation, it is something my body sometimes spontaneously 
does, particularly when I am wrestling with a stubborn issue. I am 
something of a control freak, obviously.. and lack of sleep dulls a 
stubborn ego... breaks it up into disconnected fragments.  
  Obviously breaking the ego into fragments could be pretty dangerous for 
somebody who doesn't know how to live without one.. by listening instead to 
spirit's guidance. 
 
  I used to stay up for about 30 hours, every other weekend, just to see 
what came up to be processed or learned, that had not been getting thru in 
the normal state.  
  The longest I ever stayed up continuously was 50 hours, most of it in 
some kind of activity, some meditation, many rituals, all of it in sacred 
space. My usually hyperactive thoughts finally slowed down so I could watch 
them go by like solitary airplanes, pulling banners. I felt a stillness 
that radiated from me, and was commented on by the other witches.. that was 
after a huge dump of grief and fear that I had been holding in. 
  I had made a decision, months previous, to be strong for other people 
which had created a blockage I was scarcely aware of, till I started 
feeling very haunted. 
  My ego strength was wearing down, and my body knew I was in safe space, 
surrounded by healers. It all spilled out about 2/3 of the way thru, at 
night, healed by ritual. The host for the event was a good friend, a witch 
and also a mortician, with a genuine gift, for healing grief. I buried my 
grief and regrets, with a crystal, in his backyard. Blessed be.  
  I would have slept then, but my slave had freaked to see me upset, which 
had been no help at all to my situation, so patience with her insecurity 
after, kept me up a while longer.. finally it was dawn, and I was so 
frustrated with her, I went and cleaned the whole campsite/2 acre yard, 
rescued everything from the torrential rainstorm that had happened after my 
ritual, sorted the recycling, reassembled the remains of the feast tables 
into breakfast, rescued the beltaine fires, and made coffee for 50. I slept 
when I got home, late afternoon.  
  50 hours was about 5 hours too long, I was getting pretty clumsy at the 
end. Took about 3 days to recover fully.. but that was with only about 2 
hours sleep, altogether: you will be getting much more than that, and you 
won't be moving around as much. 
 
  Studies have discovered that a body which sleeps 4 1/2 to 6 hours 
actually becomes more alert. Seems wanting 8-10 hours is a leftover 
survival mechanism to keep us out of trouble so we'd live longer. Yet, in 
these days, they have connected longevity with less sleep.  
  There is a book to teach you how to train your body to need less sleep, 
it's called "The Sleep Management Plan", can't give more info, except it's 
written by a woman.. still in an unpacked box.  
  So, as for your energy, it will be skyrocketing.. because of the influx 
of spirit, and the endorphins. Expect to clear some issues as the ego 
breaks down, but you know that stuff already.  
  Sounds great! Have fun! 
  Blessings, Mystress. 
   
At 13:05 21/01/98 -0600, Debora A. Orf wrote: 
>my problem is....i'm wondering what sleep deprivation is going to do to me 
>energy wise.  
> 
>so i thought 'Hey i'll ask the experts :)' what does prolonged meditation 
>combined with sleep deprivation do? add in a strict diet too.  
>add in one temple located in the smoky mountains too.... 
> 
> 
>take care!  
> 
>maitri, 
> 
>--janpa tsomo 
> 
> 
> 
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 18:33:47 
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com> 
To: Gene Kieffer <gkiefferATnospamnetaxis.com> 
Cc: lodpressATnospamintercomm.com, heartzenATnospamlistserv.servtech.com, 
 kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, DonBBensonATnospamaol.com, keutzerATnospameecs.berkeley.edu 
Subject: Re: Broadcast 
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At 16:49 20/01/98 -0500, Gene Kieffer wrote: 
>At 08:52 PM 1/19/98, you wrote: 
>>At 15:57 18/01/98 -0500, Gene Kieffer wrote: 
>>>  
>GENE HAD SAID TO GLORIS, IN PART: 
>> 
>><...> If somebody in Alaska is thinking negatively, can you and they  
>>see the effects of these thoughts and how they hinder the evolution of the 
>race? 
>> 
>MYSTRESS ANGELIQUE SERPENT RESPONDED: 
> 
>>  I do not know all of what Goddess intends to the evolution of the human 
>>race, so how can I say what will help or hinder?  
>>  Each path is individual. For some, an NDE is the key to awakening.. or 
>>Alcoholics Anonymous. The internet itself, started out as part of the 
>>american war machine.. but it is becoming a tool of peace, as borders grow 
>>invisible.  
> 
>GENE'S RESPONSE: 
> 
>    Is this Mystress Angelique Serpent speaking?  If so, you do me 
>a great honor.   
  LOL! Thankyou... 
I didn't anticipate your participation in this little 
>dialogue I was having with Gloria.  
  Well, you posted to the K.list, so what's yer surprise? 
 
 <..>  But if we do not know what the Goddess intends, why 
>not give some thought to a scientific investigation of Kundalini? 
> 
  I have given plenty of thought to the subject, and I think it is of some 
importance. 
 
>MS. SERPENT SAYS: 
> 
>>  I do know, that any plan that starts out by saying how someody else has 
>>to change, is bound to fail. 
>>   Even Michael Jackson knows.. wanna change the world? Start with the man 
>>in the mirror.  
>>> 
> 
>GENE'S RESPONSE: 
> 
>  My Dear Angelique, I do not recall starting out by saying how somebody 
>else has to change.  Perhaps you were referring to someone else?  
  No, you are going in circles again, Gene, .. 
  The opening of this thread, was you asking about how the world must 
change, to survive the apocalypse you and Gopi amongst others, are 
predicting. Your question. My answer.  
  You are talking about how to change scientists, so they believe in 
Kundalini. You are trying to change our minds, so that we support your 
cause. You are contradicting yourself and losing credibility steadily, in 
your efforts at conversion.  
> 
>
 
> 
>MS. SERPENTS INTERJECTS: 
> 
>>  Nonsense. E=MC2 came from Einstiens visionary experience of what it would 
>>be like, to be a photon.  
>> 
>GENE'S REPLY: 
> 
>   I am grateful once again to be informed of Einstein's visionary 
>experience.  Wish I knew what he was smoking on that particular  
>visionary journey. 
 
  Whew! Now you are making patronizing comments of a great visionary, in a 
futile effort to prove your point. Einstien's visionary experiences are 
common knowledge. He said, towards the end of his life, that he wished he 
had spent more time studying the spiritual, as opposed to the scientific. 
 
>MS. SERPENT SAYS,  
>   
>>  No, it is made of love, and cannot be shattered by human fears.  
>Here Angelique is referring to the structure of the Universe, i.e., 
>love. 
>> 
>GENE'S RESPONSE: 
> 
>   I'll buy that!  But I wonder, would Stephen Hawking, et al, buy 
>it? <..>  Is the  
>structure of the Universe made of Love or is it made of neutrinos, 
>dark matter, and such stuff?  Please tell us!!! 
> 
  Sorry, you'll have to wait till the paper a friend and I are preparing 
for the Nobel committee is finished.. 
 
 
>GENE'S RESPONSE: 
> 
>   I have been in contact and correspondence with the top scientists at 
>the Maharishi International University.  It is in Fairfield, Iowa. Some 
>years back, <..> 
>   At the time I was in touch with the TM people, they were not doing any 
>research on Kundalini---just on TM meditation.   
 
  So what? TM is causing kundalini awakening, and a perusal of the Natural 
Law party's material proves that they are using K. energy thru yogic flying 
to reduce crime rates and heal polluted areas. Remarkable stuff, get with 
the program, Gene.. I am sure the Natural Law party would be happy to send 
you the information.   
  They understand, "Feed first, convert after", only this is the 
information age, it is the head that is being fed, not the belly. 
 
 
>MS. SERPENT SAYS: 
> 
>>  If you believe that He is still guiding your hand, consider perhaps that 
>>it was He who guided you here? So you may meet others, and discover that 
>>Kundalini is bigger and more diverse than one man's vison could possibly 
>>encompass, no matter how many well intentioned books he leaves behind. Each 
>>awakened one, must find their own path.. we cannot follow the vision of 
>>another. Your path has led you here, to these lists.  
> 
>GENE'S RESPONSE: 
> 
>    Well spoken, Angelique.  Somebody's hand certainly guided me here, 
>and what I am most grateful for is the tremendous response I've received 
>to my offer to send a packet of Kundalini reading material to anyone 
>who leaves his/her mailing address (gkiefferATnospamnetaxis.com).  That  
>alone--that terrific response--was far more than I ever expected,  
>and it has made me very happy.  It is very difficult for anyone to 
>spend time reading postings on the Internet.  
>
 
>>GENE'S RESPONSE: 
> 
>   I understand much of what you teach.  But are you referring  
>to Dr. Carl Sagan when you say, "The other night I heard the voice 
>of my deceased Mother . . but I don't believe in the afterlife?"   
  No, I am referrring to the scientist friend, with whom I m writing the 
paper. Nothing abstract, real world doings.. his K. was a hard nut to 
crack, too.. but his Mom seems to be helping..  
   
> He thought the memory of his mother calling him by name 
>when she was alive was stored in his brain cells and that at certain 
>times the cells would "pop" out the voice, just as though his mother 
>were standing next to him. 
  Yes, my friend has a similar odd explanation, but there have been other 
odder events shaping his path. 
 
>   May I be so bold as to ask you for your help in trying to make  
>the knowledge of Kundalini universally known? 
> 
>With all best wishes, 
>gene 
>> 
  LOL! I do little else, my friend. From awakening scientists, to managing 
the K.list.. to putting it out on the net, I am slave to Goddess Shakti, 
doing my all toward mass consciousness shift. In the physical, and in the 
etheric, from which all things come.  
   Blessings, Mystress.
 
> 
> 
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 20:38:22 EST 
From: SchrLL <SchrLLATnospamaol.com> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: ear rining poll-sleep 
Message-ID: <a88a41ed.34c6a310ATnospamaol.com> 
 
In a message dated 98-01-18 20:15:11 EST, you write:
 
> ate: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 20:14:46 EST 
>  To: ATnospamglobal.co.za 
>  In a message dated 98-01-18 16:46:38 EST, you write: 
>  >.... past years have been practicing allowing myself to enter sleep 
>  consciously from 
>  >  waking state. point i'm interested in is that at some point during this 
>  >  conscious "dissociation" into sleep just before actual clear dream 
images 
>  >  begin you get a gradual increase in intensity of that ear ringing or 
>  >  sometimes a "hiss" if you carry onwards past this point at some stage 
you 
>  >  get sudden bursts   
>   ATnospam->->-- 
>  I have actually had my ear ring so intensly and in successive bursts, that 
I 
>  could only assume I was suppposed to wake up, since it woke me up.  My 
dream 
>  material at the time was such that it was probably just as well. I learned  
> to 
>  trust this 'assistance' and learned something about how to avoid those  
> astral 
>  projectors who were entering uninvited into my psyche. Linda 
>   
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 18:08:55 -0800 
From: Solar Lion <gtaATnospamcwnet.com> 
To: <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com> 
Subject: Ear ringing 
Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980121180851.00829100ATnospammailhost.cwnet.com> 
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a number of accomplished mediums have said about the odors - the ear 
ringing etc - (from their guides) - "why not just ask what they want - what 
the message is " 
- in what ever method you use to become more in tune with your inner self.
 
you might be surprised at the answer you get - from inner rather than outer.
 
Solar Lion (Bob)
 
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Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 21:31:26 EST 
From: SchrLL <SchrLLATnospamaol.com> 
To: SANDYLRANATnospamaol.com 
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: EAR RINGING POLL 
Message-ID: <29266487.34c6af80ATnospamaol.com> 
 
In a message dated 98-01-21 06:34:38 EST, you write:
 
>  
>  Linda, 
>   
>  I woke up in August of 1978 and both my ears were ringing....they have not  
> stopped since.   Sometimes the pitch changes...but it is always there.... 
> would love to hear more about your theory. 
>   
>  Each night just before I go to sleep....my body begins to vibrate...the  
> noise gets louder in my head as the k raises up through my throat to my 
head.. 
> .then .....I get a loud "pop" and I am asleep.....Has been happening for  
> years...During this period as the k rises...I see people...places ....but 
all  
> unfamiliar to me....I have begun to call this period of the day my very own  
> private movie theatre....I never know what I will see and hear.... 
>   
>  sandy 
ATnospam->->-- 
Sandy, 
Oh, Yes... I am aware of the energy rising and the thing in the thrast. 
Actually it feels like the back of my throat and sound like a click which I 
can feel as well. Then it goes on up and I soar!  The ear ringing seems to be 
common to mny of us. I have made up what I call "Biolanguage"  having to do 
with it.  WhenI port hte findings of the poll, I will elaborate. Meanwhile, 
tke notes as to the ear ringing when where  etc. 
Love and Light, Linda 
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 18:35:34 -0800 
From: Solar Lion <gtaATnospamcwnet.com> 
To: <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com> 
Subject: Ear ringing 
Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980121183531.00820cd0ATnospammailhost.cwnet.com> 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
 
a number of accomplished mediums have said about the odors - the ear 
ringing etc - (from their guides) - "why not just ask what they want - what 
the message is " 
- in what ever method you use to become more in tune with your inner self.
 
you might be surprised at the answer you get - from inner rather than outer.
 
Solar Lion (Bob)
 
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Gateway to Awareness ATnospam http://home.cwnet.com/gta/ 
Metaphysics - Guided Meditation - Energy Work 
 ICQ uin: 2742596 
 "Ye Old Metaphysical Book Shoppe"  
Online source for Metaphysical Books 
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Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 21:42:54 -0500 
From: David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net> 
To: Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com> 
Subject: Re: Dilbert 
Message-ID: <34C6B22E.3B6AATnospammail.snet.net> 
 
mckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us wrote:
 
Quoting "Dilbert" comic strip:
 
> "A skeptic checks *all* the drawers."
 
But never simultaneously. 
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 21:43:57 -0500 
From: David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net> 
To: Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com> 
Subject: Re: meditations 
Message-ID: <34C6B26D.382ATnospammail.snet.net> 
 
Mystress Angelique Serpent wrote:
 
(quoting somebody else)
 
> There is only fear itself, to fear.. 
 
Let us put to rest this most absurd saying. 
If we fear fear we only perpetuate it. 
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 22:20:03 -0500 
From: nkognito <nkognitoATnospamtcon.net> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Ear Ringing 
Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980121221704.006900d8ATnospammailgate.tcon.net> 
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Hi to All,
 
I have the ear ringing too.  But its not there all the time.  It comes and 
goes throughout the day.  For some reason this also has a time table for 
me.  I have studied numerology for many year and when my ears ring I look 
at the clock to see what time it is, and the numbers on the clock convert 
to letters in numerology and that's just one of the ways spirit speaks to 
me.  I also have ear clicking noises so when my ears click, I look at the 
clock too.  For some reason the clicks are different when the air pressure 
changes and its not the same kind of clicks you get when going up or down a 
mountain side, its just a different kind of click.  I don't know how else 
to explain it.
 
Microwave ovens and a television warming up just makes me nuts.  That sound 
is at a frequency that just makes my eyes squint.  It hurts.
 
The other thought that occurred to me was the radio waves bouncing half way 
around the world, I wonder if my brain picks up on those signals and also I 
live about 25 miles away from an airport and lots of planes pass over head 
everyday.  I wonder if I am picking up their radio signals.  Actually, I am 
trying to find a logical explanation for this buzzing in my ears. 
Although, I know a couple of people who have great hearing loss and they 
also talk about this constant ringing in the ears but I am not sure if its 
the same kind of ringing or if it has the same cause and effect type 
relationship.  
 
And one more curiosity here, I am wondering if anyone else has ever felt 
like they were picking up "subliminal messages" (for lack of a better term) 
from the t.v. or radio?  As if that message was directed there just for 
your ears?  Maybe I have an over active imagination.   Just curious.
 
Love and Light, 
Sherry 
  
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 16:31:03 +1300 
From: jaxx <jaxxATnospamihug.co.nz> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: EAR RINGING POLL 
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Dear M
 
>My ear ringing began the day before this post, 1/17/98 about noon and by 
>1/19/98 pm I told all the Powers that be that I was so miserable I would 
>kill myself if it did not stop...and I meant it. 
> 
>I can now get it to stop most of the time.  I have stopped all medication (I 
>was on a ton of supplements) and keep my head as still as possible.  I feel 
>immobilized by this but prefer it to the pain, torture really, of a few days 
>ago. 
> 
>I am on the edge here...everything seems to be leaving me. Another disaster 
>today has me nearly suicidal.  I do not know where to turn next.   
> 
>M   
 
I feel at a loss for words for you, yet feel a need to write... 
At times like this <when reading a post> my ego/head usually comes up with 
lots of 'wonderful' suggestions and advice.  This time it is quiet..
 
Perhaps all I can say is that your words have had an impact on me.
 
I am reminded to words I have seen used around here a lot <usually from 
Angelique - and ones I deeply believe in>...that spirit/the universe doesnt 
provide anything an individual cant handle...  Yet I find it hard to fit 
this with your case...  maybe so... maybe no...
 
You may feel you dont have the strength for things.. yet you had the 
strength to face the 'Powers that be' and ask it to stop, and you had the 
strength to write 
That speaks volumes to me of what you have inside.
 
Anyway ... take care and my thoughts are with you..
 
...jacqueline 
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 19:42:43 -0800 (PST) 
From: M  <chooseagainATnospamthegrid.net> 
To: Solar Lion <gtaATnospamcwnet.com> 
Cc: <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com> 
Subject: Re: Ear ringing 
Message-Id: <199801220342.TAA21891ATnospammail.thegrid.net> 
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At 06:08 PM 1/21/98 -0800, Solar Lion wrote: 
>a number of accomplished mediums have said about the odors - the ear 
>ringing etc - (from their guides) - "why not just ask what they want - what 
>the message is " 
>- in what ever method you use to become more in tune with your inner self. 
>you might be surprised at the answer you get - from inner rather than outer. 
>Solar Lion (Bob)
 
I have been "listening" for a few days now.  The message so far is: keep 
still, Keep quiet and keep the tv turned off.  I haven't tested the computer 
enough to  
know if it's a problem too.
 
M
 
 
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