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1998/01/17 08:14
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #51


kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 51

Today's Topics:
  Re: Gopi Krishna [ Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.co ]
  Re: signs of chakra? [ Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.co ]
  Right & left... [ mart <martATnospamidsc.gov.eg> ]
  Re: kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #49 [ sassiATnospamworldnet.att.net (Jack) ]
  Responders on KA-THEOLOGY-GOD-FEELIN [ anandajyoti <anandajyotiATnospamgeocities. ]
  Re: just a babbling brook as my grad [ tgxxxATnospamjuno.com (tg langston) ]
  Re: Disaster [ acarre <acarreATnospamconcentric.net> ]
  Re: Unidentified subject! -Reply [ mraft <at3ATnospamearthlink.net> ]
  Re: signs of love [ "Adrienne Hollander" <adrienne45ATnospamho ]
  Re: kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #49 [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistres ]
  Re: kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #49 [ sassiATnospamworldnet.att.net (Jack) ]
  Re: just a babbling brook as my grad [ hbarrettATnospamix.netcom.com (Holly N. Ba ]
  blushing crows [ "Susan Carlson" <divine_goddessATnospamhot ]
  DIRECTION [ Gene Kieffer <gkiefferATnospamnetaxis.com> ]
  Re: just a babbling brook as my grad [ jeannegATnospamicon.net (Jeanne Garner) ]
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 19:58:09 +0100
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
To: John Lounsberry <berryATnospamcnwl.igs.net>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Gopi Krishna
Message-ID: <34BFADC0.4761ATnospamintercomm.com>

John Lounsberry wrote:
>
> E-MAIL<berryATnospamcnwl.igs.net>FROM JOHN LOUNSBERRY
>

> In some of my other posts I have talked about how
> Kundalini has controlled my life and has moved to my heart chakra
> in August. Even before this natural Disaster my life was being
> rearranged by other forces then my own. One gift I received was
> a heightened sense of awareness and the events I was prepared for.
> I was able to take the time to help my neighbors.
> Gene has reminded me of the book , THE SHAPE OF EVENTS
> TO COME, By Gopi Krishna and that the possibility of disasters
> are real. This event has been a great education. Incredibly at this
> point in my life, an awakening of what might be.
>
> John in Canada (please reply back)

I replied back earlier and my post would not go, I am going to try again
just to see if it will work this time. I will write more if it does.
Gloria

--

Enter The Silence to Know God ... and... accept life as the teacher.
Gloria Joy Greco
 e-mail me at : lodpressATnospamintercomm.com and visit our homepages at:
http://users.intercomm.com/larryn/
&
http://www.freeyellow.com/members/zg888/
Hope you enjoy them!
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 20:01:08 +0100
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
To: Mike Stickles <msticklesATnospamantalys.com>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: signs of chakra?
Message-ID: <34BFAE72.72E7ATnospamintercomm.com>

Mike Stickles wrote:
>
> Gloria,
>
> Thanks for your reply, I'd completely forgotten about the idea of making
> daily life a continuous "awareness meditation". That resonated with me
> as soon as I read it, and has application beyond just diagnosing the
> throat chakra.

Yes, Mike, it is very important. Because it is really in the awareness
and consciousness that the real changes occur, so while kundalini may be
an ongoing experience, it is really applying knowledge through
detachment and being that witness that the transformation comes.
>
> - Mike

--

Enter The Silence to Know God ... and... accept life as the teacher.
Gloria Joy Greco
 e-mail me at : lodpressATnospamintercomm.com and visit our homepages at:
http://users.intercomm.com/larryn/
&
http://www.freeyellow.com/members/zg888/
Hope you enjoy them!
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 06:59:35 +0200
From: mart <martATnospamidsc.gov.eg>
To: "kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com" <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: Right & left...
Message-ID: <34C03AB7.B545226AATnospamidsc.gov.eg>

People, and I use the term loosely, (that was in jest)

When one speaks of right hand being positive(active?) and left hand
being negative(passive?), does this have to do with whichever hand is
domininant in the individual? Meaning, in a lefty is the left hand
postive?

Also, depending on your response to the above question, what would be
the situation for those who had a natural predisposition to be a lefty,
but as a result of being raised during a time when mothers were told to
'change' the child to right handedness? Would the victims of this
childhood still have a left positive inspite of an assumed right
handedness. (I believe that when one is right handed, but has a dominant
left eye and exibits ambidexterous abilities, that person may have had
their natural tendencies 'toyed with'...)

Thanks in advance
Fran
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 05:06:09 GMT
From: sassiATnospamworldnet.att.net (Jack)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #49
Message-ID: <34c23bd8.29763404ATnospammailhost.worldnet.att.net>

methinks crows can not blush...

Only when they're around Mystress. : )>

Jack
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 21:41:55 -0800
From: anandajyoti <anandajyotiATnospamgeocities.com>
To: "kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>,
 "heartzenATnospamlistserv.servtech.com" <heartzenATnospamlistserv.servtech.com>
Subject: Responders on KA-THEOLOGY-GOD-FEELINGS
Message-ID: <34C0449A.DDCE6DACATnospamgeocities.com>

to Ruth, Gloria G, Gloria L, Don Benson, Davod Bozzi, Ann Morrison
Fisher, Rita G, Amy C, Holly Barrett, and all those who may have
responded to the above threads, I offer my sincerest thanks for their
views, which were all illuminating and extremely thought provoking.

For the last two days , due to my involvement in other areas of my life,
I was not able to read all the responses till today.
Thanks to one an all. It also reminds this very moment of the most
erudite exposition rendered by Mike Bradford., very pragmatic.and
poignant.
I am sorry if I have offended anyone, as I am sometimes, under this
inexplicable force, which takes over to automatic writing, not able to
stop.
In spite of it all, I do have the strong belief, that the discussion did
also encourage some thinking on the part of those who responded and also
those who read it.

Thanks again to all,

Anandajyoti
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/6782
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 01:24:13 -0500
From: tgxxxATnospamjuno.com (tg langston)
To: iriATnospamivyrealty.com
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: just a babbling brook as my grade 8 art teacher would say
Message-ID: <19980117.012439.21246.2.tgxxxATnospamjuno.com>

On Fri, 16 Jan 1998 17:08:54 -0800 iri <iriATnospamivyrealty.com> writes:

>My K energy must be low..I feel drained...tired...headache.
<snip>....->My spouse was sick recently.. <snip>.... for some unknown
reason, this >time it
>brought tears to my eyes and today... <snip>>I received a phone call
from a client today...her sister, after >suffering>from cancer for the
last five years, died today...>> <snip>.....>That's life in the physical
realm...>> (and it goes on with more of the same)
>So I ask you, does Kundalini play a part in all this? And if so, how
>does it>work exactly?. Then the sadness will I feel sad today. >>

You speak of many things that are happening in your life, not all of
which you seem to be happy with -- that is the bad news. There is only
one problem though, and that is separation.... a disconnection you feel
from God -- it comes in many forms, but the bottom line is fear. And
the one answer is your Source. The good news is, is that you already are
reconnected! You never left....

It looks as if you have many internal and external changes occurring in
your life now. Sometimes when we are not quite ready to making the shift
fully internally, changes seem to be made externally, and some may seem
chaotic. The internal changes causes us to be in conflict, out of
peace... separated. When you can be at peace with your internal
changes, then your world will become the outward reflection of your
inward world.

To be at peace with oursSelves, we must reflect oneness inside. What
does that mean? Well, you can do the cosmic consciousness thing if you
are able. But for some of us here, it is merely a matter of accepting
what you are feeling, understanding that you do not know what anything
means, and allowing that acceptance to form your separated self into One.
 When what you have dissociated with is accepted, it stops being fearful
- what disappears in light cannot be attacked. Merely being what it
is, Truth releases you from everything it is not.

When you said: << I feel sad today. I think that means another person
whom >i>know (idrectly or indirectly) will die soon>>.... <snip>

You have spoken your belief for that situation - a belief, not truth.
What you believe you WILL see. That thought would create a conflict
within yourself (I would think it would), and could therefore be
projected outwards because of the conflict. Ok, so what? You feel sad?
I don't know what that means any more than you do. I can label it
something else, as you did, and your mind can accept one of them if you
like. Allow your God Source to be your guide. You did your best thinking
to get where you are at. Now back off!

As for the phenomenon in your life happening... name it what you will.
That doesn't make it truth. The Truth is that neither you nor me nor
anyone else knows what is happening or knows what it is. Accept it. Be
one with it. If you are conflicted about it, understand that you are
feeling separated, and again, change your mind/your thoughts to reflect
oneness inside -- change your mind and you literally change your world,
internally and externally.

Changes in our life are bound to occur when our internal is off-whack, or
so we think is off. Be sad, be happy, be confused, be restless,
whatever... if the emotions seem to be coming from inside or outside,
accept them for what they are -- and what they are, you nor I have any
idea. Allow the Universe/God to come in and fill that empty space for
you. I, personally, like to see everything as a blessing or a blessing
in disquise. I don't know what the blessing is, but it is always a joy
when it comes about. What you believe, is what you perceive, so if you
are going to have any kind of beliefs, get some that create joy in your
life.

>unexplained phenomenon, unexplained sadness preceeded by illness and
>followed by death...the unexplained is intriguing and difficult to
>comprehend...are these events causing my tiredness and draining my
>energy?

I should say so! ..... fear, death, illness, drained energy =
separation. When your mind and thoughts are One instead of separated and
conflicted, these things will drop like a hot potatoe. No one can do it
for you. We are responsible for our thoughts. So you can observe them,
with no judgement, or you can change them to reflect a Oneness. It
doesn't really matter.

You are going through some mighty changes now. And you will come to see
that all changes are always helpful. Maybe you can't see it now, but you
will. Enjoy the ride, and allow the understanding of it all to come to
you, rather than vice versa. Take care.... my thoughts and love are with
you.

xxxtg

* It's always darkest just before I open my eyes *

http://members.aol.com/Teeegeee/tgsplace.html <~~~~~~ on the web now
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 05:10:47 -0500
From: acarre <acarreATnospamconcentric.net>
To: "Mailing list (Kundalini)" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Disaster
Message-ID: <34C083A5.A419D779ATnospamconcentric.net>

Hello to all,

I have had some feed back from people thinking
that i may of thought by this post i felt
responsible in a way for the ice storm that
happened around Montreal region. My bad English
may have lead to that... So let me clarify what i
meant.

Just wanted to clarify things.

acarre wrote:

> I felt that way also, feeling certain that we
> where going to get whacked. Being in Montreal,
> and
> electrical engineer, i could see that happening
> to
> us before it did, in every details. Was only a
> matter of time.

I should of added with the winters in montreal and
having studied the electrical system and the
dependency of our society on electricity as
primary source regulating any other form of
heating (gas, oil, etc...). I could clearly see
the types of weather conditions that could crush
us. And i could also see ways how only a group of
100 of not so very well organized terrorist could
knock out all the US or Canada or both to a total
blackout, for weeks and months. . (So easy, but i
wont say how, already i feel uncomfortable by just
putting this idea in the air :-) It's only a
matter of time if we don't start building
electrical whirring systems, in another way, cost
a bit more, but makes them more reliable, and
mostly less fragile.

At least it is what the governement is starting to
consider very seriously here in Canada. But it
took about 1,000,000 people in total black out for
more than 2 weeks and almost 4 million people with
no electricity for 7 days, to start applying
simple principles of networking.

> But after sitting in the cold, temperature
> around
> 35 F in the house after 7 days. I was deeply
> saying to myself did i call to on me and others,
>
> did i plan this? Did my wanting to see the
> disaster i was feeling coming did not call it
> more
> on me?

Yes it's a bit scary to see a scenario, you had
plan, behing realized and you behing cough in it.
Does not mean i really tough it append because of
me.

The last sentence is a bit trickier, i used short
sentenced and did not go all the way to express
what i meant. What i meant said in another way is
that we have the propensity to see a glass of
water half empty or half full. Looking at what was
and is appening here with a half empty attitude
can only make things worst. Looking at things
before they append by the electrical company and
the government with a half full attitude only made
things worst, for they did not prepare as much as
they could.

Some people simply learn to drink the water of the
glass instead of thinking about it. That event in
montreal helped me to do that about those issues
stated. Acting in the moment, as it is, as you
perceive it, with your best of abilities is the
best one can do. IMHO.

> Gene when you say " I feel fairly certain that
> we'll all get whacked in the months and years
> ahead, one way or another." Please watch out for
>
> what you wish.

In other words don't keep just the half empty
attitude, stay open...

Humbly

Antoine

--
May the God of light grant to us sight! May the
heavenly peaks grant to us sight! May God the
creator grant to us sight! Give sight to our eyes
and sight to our bodies that we may see. May we
see the world at a single glance and in all its
details.

Rig Veda 10.158.3-4, Vedic Experience p. 340-341
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 02:45:37 -0800
From: mraft <at3ATnospamearthlink.net>
To: watrfallATnospamniagara.com
CC: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>,
 Barbara Millikan <millikanATnospampnn.com>,
 Max Herrington <mherringtonATnospambcbsal.org>, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Unidentified subject! -Reply
Message-ID: <34C08BD0.CB5EFDBCATnospamearthlink.net>

Nancy Eckert wrote:
>
> Mystress Angelique Serpent wrote:
>
> > I am feeling reluctant to explain it in much more detail, in this
> > cyberspace... for several reasons.. we have some underage members here...
> > and being so careful in my language is exhausting.
>
> Well done!
> ...and I was going to commend you on explaining things, oh so delicately
> :)
> I remember when everyone got upset before about subject matter.
> I just find it hard not to associate or to disassociate k energy from
> sexual energy.
> Everything seems to be so combined...
> I even use sexual energy when I do healing work... it's so very
> powerful. People really feel the difference when you bring it in.
> Maybe if we just keep it very tactful that would be alright with most.
>
> namaste
> Nancy

As someone who spent many years living in a contemplative community, I can say
with the utmost certainty that meditation and sex go hand and hand. In fact,
the community I lived in erupted and then was torn apart when it was found the
spiritual leader was sleeping with his female students. I'm sure we all know
the stories--where hasn't this scenario occurred? Meditation releases powerful
sexual energies and some people have no training or defense against working
with it, so they give in to it and begin some secretive sex life because,
perhaps, the culture they were brought up in taught them something ot the
effect that, "my sex life is my own private business". Not really, because
when your the head honcho of a spiritual community it doesn't take long before
someone else knows. Then it becomes your sex life is your own private business until...
Anyway, what brought this to mind was Nancy's post about how you can't
separate k-energy from sexual engery, and I definitely concur, you can't, but
this is very delicate territory and and balance needs to be established?

Mike
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 13:15:32 GMT
From: "Adrienne Hollander" <adrienne45ATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, fredaATnospamblarg.net
Subject: Re: signs of love
Message-ID: <19980117131532.18184.qmailATnospamhotmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain

Dear Freda, Tom, Gloria, Schorr, SHAHAHAAH, Harsha, Bev, or whomever,

I wanted to say good-bye and God Bless to all of you on this list. It's
been interesting for me the last couple of months to read your postings
and to reflect on them. It's also brought some changes to my thinking
and attitudes, which is all to the good. However, it's time for me to
attend to my inner stirrings and do more of my own inner work and less
reading of what others are doing. As the saying goes, to get off the pot
and on with it... that is living.

I do have a couple of parting observations for you all. Hear them if you
wish, if not, fine.

You all are too much in the head and not enough in the heart. My best
advise to you is ... work on the feeling level and then maybe you will
enjoy more success in relationships. You are all very gifted writers
and should collaborate to produce a book, but only after you develop
some feeling for yourselves and others. Only then will your words
reflect a true gift or genius that will deeply touch others. Best of
luck and I hope you all find what it is you are seeking. Adrienne

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Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 06:57:14
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: iri <iriATnospamivyrealty.com>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #49
Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19980117065714.3a17346eATnospamdomin8rex.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

  OK: A lesson.. with diagrams.
  This is a lingam. <==3
  This is a yoni. (^)
  They fit together thusly: (^)<==3
  But put a condom on the lingam, first.
  Or.. for more advanced seekers..

  Take one erect lingam, attatched to one spiritual seeker.
  Tie 16 feet of cotton clothesline round it, not too tight, smoothly in a
spiral.
  Tie the rope ends neatly, leaving a few feet for a handle.
  Pull on the handle, gently, but firmly while challenging the seeker to
stay grounded.
  This will be quite difficult for the seeker, because they will be dealing
with deep rooted fears of lingam loss. Support them with your energy. Don't
tug too hard or sharply. The lesson is about trust, so be careful not to
manifest thier fears...
  If the seeker can not only remain grounded, but get into the witness
state, and discover and name all of their guardian angels, they pass the
initiation.
  If the lingam shrivels up so the rope falls off, they don't pass. They
must practice, meditate, and come back and try again next month.
    Blessings, Mystress.

At 17:37 16/01/98 -0800, iri wrote:
>----------
>beats me as to what is a lingam...so, Dear Mystress Angelique, do tell the
>ignorant ones among us, please, so that we may follow your conversational
>thread...Thank You in advance for the vocabulary education we are about to
>receive...
>
>
>

Mystress Angelique Serpent,
  Dominant Experiential Facilitator.
Website= http://www.domin8rex.com/serpent
      :D ;) :0 :) ;P :0 ;) :D :0 :) ;P :0 ;) :)
    Common sense and a sense of humor are the same thing, moving at
   different speeds. A sense of humor is just common sense, dancing.
   -- Clive James
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 Vancouver, B.C., Canada. Officially the most beautiful city in the world.
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 14:05:50 GMT
From: sassiATnospamworldnet.att.net (Jack)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #49
Message-ID: <34c7ba7f.62191264ATnospammailhost.worldnet.att.net>

 Tie 16 feet of cotton clothesline round it, not too tight, smoothly
in a spiral.

Gee, I don't know, Is 16 ft. enough ? : )>

Jack
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 08:41:55 -0600 (CST)
From: hbarrettATnospamix.netcom.com (Holly N. Barrett, Ph.D.)
To: iri <iriATnospamivyrealty.com>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: just a babbling brook as my grade 8 art teacher would say
Message-Id: <199801171441.IAA14501ATnospamdfw-ix7.ix.netcom.com>

Dear, dear iri, your post moved me very much. Within a couple of
years, my mother died, my best friend died, my husband left me and many
of my belongings were destroyed by the Northridge quake. Subsequently,
I gave up my house and my practice. Much like Job, I railed at God a
lot because I felt I just couldn't stand any more loss. I finally got
that I was being asked to really, really surrender, something I feel I
am only beginning to learn how to do. Most of all, I have to surrender
my need to understand everything. I have days when I feel very heavy,
as you do. I now know that, as tg wrote, this means I have separated
from God. On the other days, I know happiness that I haven't felt
since I was a child and the whole world was enchanted. This process is
progressive and intelligent, even if we don't feel that way sometimes.
Love, Holly
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 06:54:07 PST
From: "Susan Carlson" <divine_goddessATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: blushing crows
Message-ID: <19980117145407.26326.qmailATnospamhotmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain

Hmmmm....Have you ever heard the song: 'Bette Davis Eyes'...from the
'80s era. I think it was sung by Kim Carnes.

nice choice to describe Angelique...the sensuality of the song fits her.

Knowing her now, for as long as I have, i have picked up attitudes and
ways to make crows blush too. I thank her for that.

Blessings,
Susan

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Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 09:47:47 -0500 (EST)
From: Gene Kieffer <gkiefferATnospamnetaxis.com>
To: acarreATnospamconcentric.net
Cc: heartzenATnospamlistserv.servtech.com, serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com,
 kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, shalomATnospamcheerful.com, DonBBensonATnospamaol.com
Subject: DIRECTION
Message-Id: <199801171447.JAA22917ATnospamdavinci.netaxis.COM>
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Antoine Acarre wrote:

>Can you really be sure, we are headed in the wrong
>direction? Is it the wrong direction for your
>system of thought? Is there a right direction?
>If we are going in the wrong direction, then
>why hasn't Heaven forced us to change before?

- ------------------------------

Dear Antoine,

   As you see, I've just excerpted a paragraph from your email to
me, in which you commented on my remarks to one of your neighbors
who is also in "ice land" (Quebec, Canada).

   The reason why I am sending my response to a larger audience
is because you have been the first to touch upon the most important
point (in my opinion) since our discussion on Enlightenment,
Urdhvaretas, "Shape of Events to Come," etc., began about
Christmastime.

   And that most important point has to do with the direction of
human evolution. Assuming that the human brain is still in a state
of organic evolution, the next question that comes to mind is,
"In which direction are we evolving?"

   If we assume that there is a Creator of the Universe, we must ask
ourselves whether this Creator had in mind a plan for the evolution of
His/Her creation. Did the Creator mean for human beings to DEVOLVE?
Or did the Creator's plan call for human beings to EVOLVE?

   Since most of us on the K-list believe that we have it within
ourselves to achieve Englightenment, Cosmic Consciousness, Union with
God, Illumination, etc., then this capacity within us must have been
planned. In other words, human beings must be stamped with a blueprint
for our future evolution.

   If we assume that the blueprint of our future evolution is already
stamped on our brain, and if we assume that this blueprint leads to
Union with the Divine, or Illumination, etc., then we pretty much know
the destiny of the human race.

   But along with Destiny, there is such a thing as Free Will. So we
have, in a small way, the capacity to choose our individual future. It's
about like this (in my opinion). An ant wakes up one morning and goes
about its business, not realizing that it lives on a log that is
floating down the Mississippi River. The ant has free will to roam
the log, seeking tidbits to eat, companions to converse with, etc., not
realizing that in the larger scheme of things, it is destined to end
up in the Mississippi Delta, and then the Gulf of Mexico, where it
meets its fate. So its Free Will is limited.

   About the same holds true for human beings. We do have free will, but
only to a limited extent. We can thwart the Laws of Evolution if we
choose to do so, but then we, as a race, will stagnate, degenerate, and
then, with the capacity to kill everybody on earth with our biological,
chemical and nuclear weapons, end the world.

   If the Creator has it as part of His/Her plan that the human race
evolve towards Union with the Divine, or Cosmic Consciousness, then
even though the race chooses to stagnate and degenerate, the Creator
won't permit it to do so. It will deliver a series of hammer blows,
or natural disastors, climate changes, wars and revolutions, to force
the race to return to the "prescribed Path."

   That is pretty much what is taught in the Old Testament and in
other Scriptures of the world.

   Now we can argue about what is the right direction for our evolution
or what is the wrong direction for our evolution, but wouldn't it be
better, more "scientific" if we were to actually carry out an experiment
that would answer this question?

   Research on Kundalini implies research on the evolutionary mechanism.
If we do not believe that Kundalini is the evolutionary mechanism in
human beings, then we need go no further. But if we believe that
Kundalini IS the mechanism of human evolution (apart from "adaptation,")
then the only logical and sensible thing to do is promote a scientific
investigation of Kundalini.

  As to your question, "Why hasn't Heaven, or the Creator, forced
us to change direction before," all I can say is that "before" we
didn't have the capacity to annihilate the entire human race in a
single day. Prior to the invention of the Bomb, etc., the race could
only inflict small wounds upon itself, and from these it could
recover and resume its evolutionary journey.

  But now, with science and technology growing ever more powerful,
and with the human intellect threatening to completely smother
our intuitive capacity, our heart, the race has become lopsided.
Something has to occur to bring the heart and the brain more in
balance. K-people, to a large extent, are all heart; scientists
and scholars, to a large extent, are all intellect. We need to
bring the two into balance.

   A research project on Kundalini could help greatly to bring
about or restore this balance.

   Hope this answers, in part, your questions, Antoine. If not, let's
carry it forward.

Sincerely,
gene
  
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 09:09:04 -0600
From: jeannegATnospamicon.net (Jeanne Garner)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: just a babbling brook as my grade 8 art teacher would say
Message-Id: <199801171509.JAA25036ATnospamns2.icon.net>
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TG, Iri, and all,

>When you said: << I feel sad today. I think that means another person
>whom >i>know (idrectly or indirectly) will die soon>>.... <snip>
>
>You have spoken your belief for that situation - a belief, not truth.
>What you believe you WILL see. That thought would create a conflict
>within yourself (I would think it would), and could therefore be
>projected outwards because of the conflict. Ok, so what? You feel sad?
>I don't know what that means any more than you do. I can label it
>something else, as you did, and your mind can accept one of them if you
>like. Allow your God Source to be your guide. You did your best thinking
>to get where you are at. Now back off!

My first thought, upon reading Iri's post, was that =something is giving
way=, not in our regular sense of death (funerals, etc.) but more like
shedding another skin. Sort of like in Tarot, where the Death card hardly
ever refers to physical death, but almost always to something giving way so
that something new can flower. Iri, maybe your spirit is about to soar to
new heights?

   Jeanne
 ==-* My stars!

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