1998/01/09  08:41  
 kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #23 
  
kundalini-l-d Digest				Volume 98 : Issue 23
 
Today's Topics: 
  Re: Colors of the world               [ acarre <acarreATnospamconcentric.net> ] 
  Re: Radiant Being                     [ acarre <acarreATnospamconcentric.net> ] 
  Re: Summary                           [ acarre <acarreATnospamconcentric.net> ] 
  Re: Vast Silence                      [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistres ] 
  [Fwd: BULLETIN TO SUBSCRIBERS AND YO  [ "Lisa M." <amaysdATnospamworldnet.att.net> ] 
  Re: Scientific Wonders                [ sassiATnospamworldnet.att.net (Jack) ] 
  Re: Scientific Wonders                [ sassiATnospamworldnet.att.net (Jack) ] 
  Re: Religion??                        [ Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic ] 
  Re: HRTZEN: Verification              [ Stephen Kandul <kandulATnospamg-net.net> ] 
  Meditation?                           [ mart <martATnospamidsc.gov.eg> ] 
  Things to learn from a dog...         [ "Paul McDonald, TeleReference LA, M ] 
  Re: Meditation?                       [ ori <oriATnospameskimo.com> ] 
  Re: HRTZEN: Verification              [ "Harsh K. Luthar" <hlutharATnospambryant.e ] 
  Re: Shahanshah                        [ Peswani <peswaniATnospamgiaspn01.vsnl.net. ] 
Date: Fri, 09 Jan 1998 03:31:17 -0500 
From: acarre <acarreATnospamconcentric.net> 
To: lvdsATnospamstdin.gatelink.fr.net 
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: Colors of the world 
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Happy new year to all,
 
Bonjour Laurent,
 
> Could it not be the white pure and brightning 
> light from where all the 
> others colors come from? ...Like when the light 
> goes through a prism and 
> decompose into colors. If you reverse the 
> process, going from colors 
> through the prism, what do you find? :-)
 
Yes very true, but colors also don't exist, their 
are an illusion we can see because we have 3 
different receptacle in the eye to see different 
frequencies of "light". Light we see is also an 
illusion of a greater "Light", but to a lesser 
degree, and so on until we go back to feel the 
source of "Light".
 
> I think everything is made of Light; the 
> original Light that came from 
> God and that is God too, that some have called 
> the Verb.
 
Very true, finding way to connect to the primal 
vibration AUM using another sense, another path, 
is interesting research.
 
> So, by seeing something in a specific color, we 
> can say the original Light 
> have been filtered to give a specific color and 
> a specific power in that 
> receptacle. Think at the specific colors and 
> powers of each stone. Stones, 
> like everything else.
 
I love studying the "Masters", entities or 
archetypes behind the frequencies of gems. A lot 
of people use this powerful tool of focus for 
healing. Going directly to the vibrations of 
lights emitted by electrons changing states, in 
spectography and attuning our inside energies to 
that vibration to feel the primal archetype 
behind, seems an interesting path for personal 
research. And would be interest to go further in 
that with anyone interested.
 
"Every cells, every atoms can become a sense for 
perceiving the One".
 
Love
 
Antoine 
-- 
"Silence is the element in which great things are 
formed for them to finally emerge, perfect and 
majestic, in the light of the life they will 
dominate" 
"Le silence est l'élément dans lequel se forme les 
grandes choses, pour qu'enfin elles puissent 
émerger, parfaites et majestueuses, à la lumière 
de la vie qu'elles vont dominer."  Maurice 
Maëterlinck. Le Trésor des Humbles 
Date: Fri, 09 Jan 1998 04:03:16 -0500 
From: acarre <acarreATnospamconcentric.net> 
To: Daniel James Giszczak <danjgATnospamengin.umich.edu> 
CC: Ed Arrons <eeaATnospamaug.com>, anandajyoti <anandajyotiATnospamgeocities.com>, 
 kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, heartzenATnospamlistserv.servtech.com, 
 kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com 
Subject: Re: Radiant Being 
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Daniel James Giszczak wrote:
 
> > Thanks for responding, Anandajyoti. I would 
> appreciate if you would 
> > explain your use of the term 'bio magnetic 
> currents'', since it is different 
> > from the terms I use in my post: bio-electric 
> currents, and bio-magnetic 
>         They are the same.  Magnetic field is 
> proportional to the curl of 
> electric field.  Electic field is proportional 
> to the curl of magnetic 
> field.
 
Dear Daniel,They are not the same, in physics as 
you know it (they are tied, but not the same)... 
But mostly as "support" for human consciousness as 
you are starting to feel it, they are not the 
same. You are scared to change the central support 
for where you identify your consciousness. And i 
don't feel you are ready yet, to do that in a safe 
way.
 
Continue in your logic, until you find a more 
stable base, until the feeling of beauty starts 
replacing naturally that of order of thought. 
Making the jump before, as i feel you from a 
distance Daniel, only risk to plunge you in a 
deeper psychosis, that you have your reasons of 
fearing.
 
There is a very thin line between enlightenment 
and psychosis.
 
Good luck to you.
 
Antoine
 
-- 
"Silence is the element in which great things are 
formed for them to finally emerge, perfect and 
majestic, in the light of the life they will 
dominate" 
"Le silence est l'élément dans lequel se forme les 
grandes choses, pour qu'enfin elles puissent 
émerger, parfaites et majestueuses, à la lumière 
de la vie qu'elles vont dominer."  Maurice 
Maëterlinck. Le Trésor des Humbles 
Date: Fri, 09 Jan 1998 04:09:15 -0500 
From: acarre <acarreATnospamconcentric.net> 
To: Daniel James Giszczak <danjgATnospamengin.umich.edu> 
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: Summary 
Message-ID: <34B5E93A.70248D35ATnospamconcentric.net> 
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>   Right now, I am looking for help. 
> 
>                             Dan
 
Here is my icq number 4566192. a chat program, 
free. I can send you the url if you don't have it. 
Post to me privatly then or send to k-list and me. 
if you want me to see your message.
 
Antoine
 
-- 
"Silence is the element in which great things are 
formed for them to finally emerge, perfect and 
majestic, in the light of the life they will 
dominate" 
"Le silence est l'élément dans lequel se forme les 
grandes choses, pour qu'enfin elles puissent 
émerger, parfaites et majestueuses, à la lumière 
de la vie qu'elles vont dominer."  Maurice 
Maëterlinck. Le Trésor des Humbles 
Date: Fri, 09 Jan 1998 01:16:19 
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com> 
To: "Wright, James  7929" <JwrightATnospamphelpsd.com> 
Cc: "kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com> 
Subject: Re: Vast Silence 
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At 11:51 08/01/98 EST, Wright, James  7929 wrote: 
> 
>Is this list still operative?  
  Of course! 
 
 >Haven't seen any messages since 18 November or so. 
  Then you've been bumped. Resubscribe yourself.  
  The automatic system that handles subscriptions is smart enough to notice 
if your mail has been bouncing and unsubscribe you so it doesn't anymore.  
  Next time you are in doubt, resubscribe yourself. If you are already on 
the list, the computer is also smart enough to notice, and not subscribe 
you twice.  
   
>The silence is deafening. Did we find THE ANSWER, and I missed it? <VBG!> 
>Thanks! 
>james
 
  Love is the answer.. what was the question?  
> 
> 
> 
>
 
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Date: Fri, 09 Jan 1998 00:23:10 -0700 
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Subject: Fw: Internet charges!
 
There is a very important matter currently under review by the FCC  
that will directly affect you:
 
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Date: Fri, 09 Jan 1998 05:29:00 GMT 
From: sassiATnospamworldnet.att.net (Jack) 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: Scientific Wonders 
Message-ID: <34c9b59a.41957258ATnospammailhost.worldnet.att.net> 
 
 I believe I understand kundalini scientifically.  I have not 
read Bentov's paper yet, but I would like to compare my explanation 
his.  I include something about the reason why the system of a genius 
is more fragile than others' and why kundalini may lead to genius.  I 
would like to give this explanation, but it does not seem that this 
list is open to scientific explanations since I have yet to get a 
supportive word for my scientific thoughts. 
      Dan 
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I seem to be in the minority of those who have no problem seeing a 
Scientific explanation to K.a. and it's psi manifestations. There are 
plenty of examples out there. Valid research and reasonable theory 
abound. From the chemo-electric properties of lymphic products to 
morphologic resonance, nothing very mysterious, especially in 
explaining the physical manifestations.
 
The Spiritual is easier to take to heart, especially after a psychic 
hug from whatever God/Godess has revealed themselves. If you've gotten 
one of them, the "knowing" is with you and Science need not apply.
 
Fortunately I have learned much from both camps. The Spiritual knowing 
gives me the insight to accept the Scientific.
 
What it is,
 
Jack 
Date: Fri, 09 Jan 1998 05:29:05 GMT 
From: sassiATnospamworldnet.att.net (Jack) 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Cc: Ruth Trimble <trimbleATnospamhawaii.edu> 
Subject: Re: Scientific Wonders 
Message-ID: <34cab59e.41962034ATnospammailhost.worldnet.att.net> 
 
Sometime in my childhood I had a very traumatising experience that 
could have meant I would be abandoned or killed, and left without 
support. So I stuffed the memory of it and went on with my life.  The 
memory of the past trauma came up into my mind and I refused to accept 
it. So I pushed it away. 
 
Well for 30 years this event which had taken a part of me.. like 
some of my soul... had been out forlorn, abandoned, lost and miserable 
far away from my conscious  mind in darkness.  
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 
This strikes a deep nerve in me, Ruth. The empathic emotions I 
received from my twin are similar. A childhood trauma at 7 years old, 
betrayal and fear. She has locked her true heart away so deeply that 
she can't find it. Now, after 33 years of failed relationships she has 
reconciled herself to never finding the unconditional love she so 
desperately wants. Recently she has realized that some of her failures 
are her own doing, she plans her own failure, and when it happens 
tells herself, " I told you so." Her inability to love unconditionaly 
is sensed by those that love her. Unable to break through, to unlock 
her heart so to speak, they give up. She see's it as betrayal, expects 
it really.
 
Deciding that the innocence of a child, prevents betrayal, she became 
a mother. Adopted, married a 2nd time and had a son with a daughter on 
the way. But her husband senses her inability to love, He thought if 
he loved her enough he could break-through. Now, feeling used and 
defeated he turns to another. She expected as much, almost doesn't 
care. Now she see's her salvation in her children. I fear for her when 
the wake-up call comes.
 
Time is running out and my soul feels crushed sometimes. I know when 
and where this terrible thing happened to her but not what. I can help 
her rid herself of the past and to find her heart again. To salvage 
her marriage and live a fufilled life. 
 
Everyday I ponder how to communicate this to her, to no avail. So I 
pray, in my own way, for her. I try very hard to us the gifts I 
received with my awakening, to somehow communicate hope to her. 
Frustrating, not knowing if I'm getting through.
 
Peace,
 
Jack 
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 06:00:05 -0600 
From: Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic.net> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com 
Subject: Re: Religion?? 
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"Sharon Webb" <shawebbATnospamyhc.edu> wrote:
 
>Gene, 
> 
>As I see it, the problem of asking science to study kundalini with the 
>limited tools of science is very similar to the problem the 
>parapsychologists ran into. ... 
>As everyone with two brain cells to rub together must understand, 
>parapsychology is a vast field.  Yet the tools its researchers are forced to 
>use are so rigidly quantitative and therefore so limited (to such things as 
>decks of cards, dice machines and the like)
 
Sounds like you read about the Rhine experiments at Duke U.  That was a 
long time ago.
 
>Could we expect more from a scientific study of kundalini?  I don't think 
>so.  It would be subject to the same bias that parapsychology labors under. 
>Researchers would find themselves having to quantify instead of learn. 
>Instead of meaningful dissertations, I'm afraid we would be seeing learned 
>papers about the average width of itchy stripes up the back of  "sufferers," 
>and yet more learned papers about the surface temperature of these itchy 
>stripes. 
> 
Have you read anything in the field?  Look at these titles - and these are 
not even recent.
 
Andrade, H., S. Hashizume, and G. Playfair. 1975. "Recurrent Patterns in 
RSPK Cases."  Second International Conference on Psychotronic Research. 
Monte Carlo: International Association for Psychotronic Research.
 
Brenner, D., S. Williamson, and L. Kaufman.  1975.  "Visually Evoked 
Magnetic Fields of the Human Brain."  Science (October 31).
 
Dobrin, R., C.Kirach, S.Kirach, J.Pierrakos, T. Wolff, and Y. Zeira.  1975. 
"Experimental Measurements of the Human Energy Field."  In S. Krippner and 
D. Rubin, eds., "The Energies of Consciousness."  New York: Gordon and 
Breach.
 
In Bentov's seminal paper, "Micromotion of the Body as a Factor in the 
Development of the Nervous System," he describes using a 
ballistocardiograph to detect and measure a standing wave in the aorta, 
which rhythm-entrains four other oscillators;
 
using a capacitive probe to measure small body motions accompanying the 
motion of blood through the circulatory system;
 
using an audio-frequency oscillator and earphones to identify frequencies 
of "inner sounds" heard by meditators;
 
an electroencephalograph to measure currents of opposing polarity flowing 
along the sensory cortex of both hemispheres of the brain and pulsating 
magnetic fields of the order of 10-9 gauss produced by the currents 
circulating in the brain; and
 
a C-shaped electromagnet to produce a magnetic field of 0.5 gauss for 
experimentally stimulating one hemisphere of the human brain for 2 minutes.
 
Ann 
Date: Fri, 09 Jan 1998 07:46:17 -0500 
From: Stephen Kandul <kandulATnospamg-net.net> 
To: Gene Kieffer <gkiefferATnospamnetaxis.com> 
CC: VBrisson <VBrissonATnospamaol.com>, AthenaATnospamreninet.com, Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, 
 heartzenATnospamlistserv.servtech.com, hlutharATnospamkeynes.bryant.edu, 
 anandajyotiATnospamgeocities.com, NancyATnospamwtp.net 
Subject: Re: HRTZEN: Verification 
Message-ID: <34B61C19.4C49ATnospamg-net.net> 
 
gene-
 
oops-forgot to leave you my mailing address in order to receive the 
book, article etc...i must think that you can read my mind.
 
thanks so much, 
marsha 
Date: Fri, 09 Jan 1998 16:05:54 +0200 
From: mart <martATnospamidsc.gov.eg> 
To: "kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com" <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com> 
Subject: Meditation? 
Message-ID: <34B62EC2.61F0814DATnospamidsc.gov.eg> 
 
Lurker here looking for a little info. If one experiences a spontaneous 
awakening, do you all feel that meditation is important in order to 
better deal with the situation. I have no previous success with 
meditation and wonder if learning how to meditate will assist the 
process. Sorry if this has been addressed previously, but as a new 
subscriber I have not seen any information about this. Instead I have 
been EXTREMELY hesitant to write at all because of the massive recent 
postings of a somewhat personal and negative nature.
 
Thanks 
Fran 
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 9:24:35 -0500 (EST) 
From: "Paul McDonald, TeleReference LA, Main Info Services" <PAULATnospamlouisville.lib.ky.us> 
To: KUNDALINI-LATnospamLISTS.EXECPC.COM 
CC: PAULATnospamlouisville.lib.ky.us 
Subject: Things to learn from a dog... 
Message-Id: <980109092435.6053ATnospamlouisville.lib.ky.us>
 
Of course, when it comes to MARKING territory, I'd just as soon ignore the  
pooch...
 
~~~  THINGS WE CAN LEARN FROM A DOG  ~~~
 
   * Never pass up the opportunity to go for a joyride. 
   * Allow the experience of fresh air and the wind in your face 
      to be pure ecstasy. 
   * When loved ones come home, always run to greet them. 
   * When it's in your best interest, practice obedience. 
   * Let others know when they've invaded your territory. 
   * Take naps and stretch before rising. 
   * Run, romp and play daily. 
   * Eat with gusto and enthusiasm.  Stop when you've had enough. 
   * Be loyal. 
   * Never pretend to be something you're not. 
   * If what you want lies buried, dig until you find it. 
   * When someone is having a bad day, be silent, sit close by 
      and nuzzle them gently. 
   * Thrive on attention and let people touch you. 
   * Avoid biting when a simple growl will do. 
   * On warm days, stop to lie on your back on the grass. 
   * On hot days, drink lots of water and lay under a shady tree. 
   * When you're happy, dance around and wag your entire body. 
   * No matter how often you're scolded, don't buy into the guilt 
     thing and pout ...run right back and make friends. 
   * Delight in the simple joy of a long walk. 
Date: Fri, 09 Jan 1998 14:51:25 -0800 
From: ori <oriATnospameskimo.com> 
To: mart <martATnospamidsc.gov.eg> 
Cc: Kundalini-l <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com> 
Subject: Re: Meditation? 
Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980109145125.007e3100ATnospammail.eskimo.com> 
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Dear Fran, 
I am glad to see you wrote.  The tone changes on this list like the cycles 
of the moon.   Sometimes the negativity can be a little intimidating, as in 
any community setting.  Just know that the individuals speaking out are 
truly a minority of the 300+ (at last  report) list members.  I sometimes 
have to trust that if I have a question, there are many others who might 
have the same question and are interested but haven't been ready, willing 
or able to break out of lurk mode to post it.
 
You wrote: 
>If one experiences a spontaneous awakening, do you all feel that  
>meditation is important in order to better deal with the situation.  
>I have no previous success with meditation and wonder if learning  
>how to meditate will assist the process. 
 
My intuitive response to this is *yes* 
Meditation assists with the process of living, so really can help with any 
sort of situation, including spiritual awakening.  For me, it helped to 
learn that there are many kinds of meditation.  When I first got started, I 
too balked at meditating, because I found it difficult to sit in silence, 
trying to quiet my chattering mind.
 
It was when I learned a meditation which included a focus on grounding and 
energy flows throughout the body/chakras that I began to have an easier 
time with meditation.  For me, this gave my mind a focus (and kept it out 
of trouble and off the streets). 
 
More recently I've been taking Kundalini meditation classes and find the 
combination of mantra, mudra, breath and physical pose to be more than 
enough to occupy my mind.
 
In closing I would say that for me, meditation does help assist the 
process-- of living.  Learning that there are various forms of meditation 
allowed me to find the ones which best suited my own individual needs.
 
If list members are so inclined, perhaps some various meditation techniques 
could be shared here on the list.
 
ori  
 
In service to the process of awakening,      
  oriATnospameskimo.com    
http://www.eskimo.com/~ori/ori.html 
    
Date: Fri, 09 Jan 1998 10:59:59 -0500 
From: "Harsh K. Luthar" <hlutharATnospambryant.edu> 
To: kandulATnospamg-net.net 
Cc: Gene Kieffer <gkiefferATnospamnetaxis.com>, VBrisson <VBrissonATnospamaol.com>, 
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Subject: Re: HRTZEN: Verification 
Message-Id: <34B6497F.1915ATnospamacad.bryant.edu> 
 
Dear K-List, H List and all others friends,
 
 Thank you for the many positive comments made (on my personal e-mail as 
well) and I am glad at times we make each other laugh. There are truly 
many good and wise people on the list and I am grateful for the time 
they take to answer questions and concerns. I am facing some serious 
time constraints as I prepare to teach in the Spring Semester. Please 
forgive me if I am not able to answer the personal e-mails. I do read 
all the e-mail, and always answer through the Heart-Mail. If you wish to 
have a question answered in writing, it is better that you post it to 
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Harsha 
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 21:01:48 +0500 (GMT+0500) 
From: Peswani <peswaniATnospamgiaspn01.vsnl.net.in> 
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Subject: Re: Shahanshah 
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 To clear past karmas.....This is what worked for me.
 
 I would sit in bed comfortably with a back rest, close my eyes  
and be AWARE. I would be aware of thoughts as they come. In order that  
thoughts do not carry me away and I forget my awareness, I would shift my  
attention as early as I can to any feeling throughout the body. May be  
heat, cold, sensations, noise....any any thing, but within this body. 
 Our mind consists of billions billions of kalapas and is spread  
throughout the body from feet to top of head. These kalapas die and are  
reborn millions of times in a second. And in this process of dying and  
being reborn they produce sensations. 
 Our continuous attention inside our body slowly but surely brings  
these sensations to our notice. This is called vipassana meditation in  
Buddhism. 
 BY THIS METHOD WE DEVELOP ANY EXTRA SENSE OF WATCHING OUR ASTRAL  
BODY (Body of thoughts or ego body). 
 Every thought has some emotion (anger, fear, love etc.). 
 By watching these sensations that is just being aware of these  
sensations purifies these kalapas of emotions and makes them lighter in  
weight. They then transced to higher level leaving an empty space in the  
astral body.  
 This makes karmas in neighbouhood to flow in the empty space  
creating a disturbance and hence enhanced sensation. 
 Each karma thus watched with AWARENESS cleans up, but in the  
process causes pain or pleasure depending upon the type of karma. One has  
to keep Samta(remain emotionless that is neither like nor hate), so that  
the kalpas are transparent and light.
 
 Initially you may not be always aware of sensations , the  
thoughts may carry you away. Never mind ..each second of awareness is a  
step forward. this is Suniata Medittion or vipassana meditation. Even  
awareness of thought is also equally good if you do not get carried away  
by the emotion of thought. 
 Dan had mentioned in one letter that he pushes away the thought  
of fear as more fear rushes in. If he shifts his attention to sensations  
related with the fear ...in no time he will be on the way to enlightment. 
 Wonders will never cease as one pushes along this path. All  
diseases will disappear. 
 Some persons have extremely deep and dangerous karmas in their  
body. Opening of these karmas without a teacher may cause serious  
problems if one loses Samta. There are vipassana centers all over the  
world. Most of them are free (no expenses.. they provide free lodging  
boarding and food to thousands in India every day along with guidence) 
Shahanshah	
 
 
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