1997/12/31 17:40
kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #874
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 97 : Issue 874
Today's Topics:
Unidentified subject! [ Gene Kieffer <gkiefferATnospamnetaxis.com> ]
Self/Observer/Change [ RadiantTch <RadiantTchATnospamaol.com> ]
Re: Kundalini & life [ Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.co ]
Re: Sex/love, etc. [ RadiantTch <RadiantTchATnospamaol.com> ]
Re: Heredity [ "Gloria Lee" <samyanaATnospamhotmail.com> ]
Re: Science [ Daniel James Giszczak <danjgATnospamengin. ]
HOW? [ Gene Kieffer <gkiefferATnospamnetaxis.com> ]
Re: Thanks and Happy New Year! [ SchrLL <SchrLLATnospamaol.com> ]
Genius Problems [ Gene Kieffer <gkiefferATnospamnetaxis.com> ]
Re: kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #870 [ Kurt Keutzer <keutzerATnospamEECS.Berkeley ]
Re: Thanks and Happy New Year! [ SchrLL <SchrLLATnospamaol.com> ]
Re: Self/Observer/Change [ RadiantTch <RadiantTchATnospamaol.com> ]
Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 15:00:40 -0500 (EST)
From: Gene Kieffer <gkiefferATnospamnetaxis.com>
To: fredaATnospamblarg.net
Cc: heartzenATnospamlistserv.servtech.com, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com,
lodpressATnospamintercomm.com
Subject: Unidentified subject!
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"M" writes, in part:
> "Oh no, not me. I have not remained the same. I have gone through many
>changes, physically, intellectually, spiritually, socially, you name it,
>" am not at all constant! Except, there is this "life force" a
>"something" that gives all of me life. That has remained constant. I
>beleive that it is all me. My mind, intellect, personality, and like it
>or not at this particular time even my body IS me. They may only be
>tools but it would seem to me that they are some darned important tools!
>These ARE what we have been given to manipulate THIS world. . . . etc."
Dear M,
The great sages of India exhausted all arguments dealing with the mind
in their discourses, debates, dialogues over thousands of years. In
doing so, they explored every concievable angle. So it is quite easy to
find many different points of view, expounded by men and women of great
brilliance. We need to be aware of these different points of view, but
we can also continue the exploration.
I fully agree with you that those in whom Kundalini has awakened in a
healthy way should participate actively in helping to make this a better
world for all. Kundalini is a gift from God, and we can return the favor
by making this sublime knowledge known as widely as possible. As the
evolutionary mechanism, only Kundalini can lift the race to its full
potential.
Best regards,
gene
Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 15:07:54 EST
From: RadiantTch <RadiantTchATnospamaol.com>
To: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Self/Observer/Change
Message-ID: <59e43fe3.34aaa61cATnospamaol.com>
In a message dated 97-12-31 14:25:33 EST, hummer13ATnospamearthlink.net writes:
snip<< No dear, if I do not change I have no existence. Think of it this way:
the
self is the hole in the donut, the donut creates the concept of self. The
self itself is non-existent only the perceptions and ego and the
reflections of others create the concept of the personality. This is basic
101 Buddhism. >>snip
I believe that if the self itself is nonexistent, as you say, then it would
not be able to reflect. Does your theory contradict itself? A question, not
an attack....trying to understand this little metaphor....
I do agree with the metaphor except the nonexistent self part - isn't the
"hole" the part of us that is the observer of the outer donut (the concept
which started this whole discussion)? And which also never changes? Concepts
of self (not self) are changed by the reflecting of differing facets of self.
I think the self (the hole in the donut) is similar to the cut and shaped
diamond - never changing, but constantly reflecting different facets. When
the diamond is turned a different direction, with a different light shining on
it, it appears to have changed, when in reality, it is only reflecting a
change while remaining the same.
Blessings,
Barbara Ellen
Radiant Touch* Healing
Spirit-guided Psychic Advisor/Healer
Healing Words, Healing Energy via E-mail
RadiantTchATnospamaol.com
Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 12:18:18 +0100
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
To: david.bozziATnospamsnet.net
CC: Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Kundalini & life
Message-ID: <34AA29FA.1BDATnospamintercomm.com>
David Bozzi wrote:
>
> John Lounsberry wrote:
>
>>What can I do? My dear wife said: "He can't keep being cruel
> > if all you are is
> > nice".
Gloria here:
John chances are if it wasn't this person it would be someone else
since it is you learning about detachment. The thing is that as long as
you give someone else power over you, this situation will continue with
this person or someone else. What to do?
Recognize it is between you and God, and that you need to get to a
space of allowing both high and low vibes to slide off, then as you
adjust to this as the witness, soon, in the practice, it will change.
This person is probably in his own power trip and is use to working off
of people in this manner, but by simply not giving him your energy by
reacting, it will go back to him and it will likely change. If not, then
you work it out with God, and if your told to move on do it. You will
know that you sincerely worked on it from the inside and whatever is
there will be his creation and not yours. This is loving your enemies,
if it was easy everyone would do it. It is not, and when you think about
it, it is the one gift you give to God because it really takes letting
go to accomplish the act. It is easy to love those who love you, right,
but it isn't when it is the other way. And, it is a powerful lesson that
will thrust you into Divne Will.
>
>
> >
Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 15:17:50 EST
From: RadiantTch <RadiantTchATnospamaol.com>
To: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Sex/love, etc.
Message-ID: <1af0e3ec.34aaa871ATnospamaol.com>
In a message dated 97-12-31 15:07:48 EST, you write:
<< Dear Barbara,
Of course, we must agree with what you have said. But there is one
thing more that you didn't say, which needs to be stressed over and
over again until it becomes universally known. It is that our sexual
apparatus, our reproductive system, serves not only for pleasure and
reproduction but also for our accelerated evolution. This is why we
are discussing Kundalini and sex in the same breath. They are inseparable,
but they are much more, too. Kundalini is the Guardian of Human Evolution.
Sincerely,
gene >>
Dear Gene,
I did say it, in words that are different than yours - evolution in the form
of releasing judgements attached to sex and creating/experiencing
unconditional loving ONENESS rather than seperation. To me, THAT IS
evolutionary! Anyone taking the steps necessary to experience what I wrote
about would definitely be transformed on all levels, as I have been as I
continue this process. Hope that helps. :-)
Blessings,
Barbara Ellen
Radiant Touch* Healing
Spirit-guided Psychic Advisor/Healer
Healing Words, Healing Energy via E-mail
RadiantTchATnospamaol.com
Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 12:41:55 PST
From: "Gloria Lee" <samyanaATnospamhotmail.com>
To: gkiefferATnospamnetaxis.com
Cc: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Heredity
Message-Id: <199712312041.MAA06761ATnospamf82.hotmail.com>
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Dear F. Drew,
>
> So Kundalini will be activated one way or the other, when the
person
>>is predisposed to it. Of course, hereditary factors are a major
>>consideration,
>*********
>
>Really ! This is the first I heard of this. What hereditary factors
affect
>Kundalini activation ?
>*
>Drew
>
>Dear Drew,
>
> Kundalini has both a biological component and a spiritual
component.
><snip>
> But since Kundalini does have a biological component, it also is
>influenced by hereditary factors in all of our lives. One of the first
>questions the K. R. F. asks anyone who reports a Kundalini experience
is
>that the person look into his/her family tree. Chances are it will be
>seen that somewhere, either the parents, grandparents, an aunt, uncle,
>or sibling, will have been highly talented, deeply religious,
eccentric,
>schizophrenic, manic-depressive, etc. In other words, just as hair
color,
>physical stature, mental abilities, etc., more or less run in the
family,
>so too does ones predisposition towards compassion, love, honesty,
>integrity, etc. In short, Kundalini.
>
>Sincerely,
>gene
>
>Gloria Lee: Gene, you no sooner answer, but raise even more questions.
Exactly how Is kundalini activity related to mental illnesses, as you
mentioned here?? They are inherited, but isn't love, compassion taught
rather than inherited??
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Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 16:41:41 -0500 (EST)
From: Daniel James Giszczak <danjgATnospamengin.umich.edu>
To: Gene Kieffer <gkiefferATnospamnetaxis.com>
cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Science
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> Those are great questions. What good is genius if it just sits in its
> ivory tower? If we examine history, we will probably discover that almost
> all of the great inventions, discoveries, etc., that have benefited human-
> kind came as the result of some genius. Of course, genius can turn
> malignant and become terribly destructive. The Unabomber is one of the
I am by most standards, a mathematical genius. I have been
plagued with the desire to do something useful for the world, but I find
myself unable to determine a career path that would permit me to
accomplish as much as I know I am capable. Just yesterday, I fantasized
about disrupting HIV using complex radiation; breaking up a protest
outside an abortion clinic by inspiring the protesters from both sides to
do something more useful (by my standards); getting famous people to pay a
group of top engineers (headed by me) to work directly on one of the
worlds major problems (world hunger and lack of medical care came to
mind); admitting myself into various psychiatric wards across the nation
posing as a patient so I could work full time helping patients as their
friend; asking Steven Hawkings to teach me everything he knows and working
on making use of the theoretical in real applications; finishing my ME
degree in a single semester (rather than three); and studying everything
Tesla and Einstein know about electric, magnetic, and gravitational fields
and trying to make sense of it all including trying to understand how to
manipulate space-time. I have no money. I only aspire to make as much
money as I need to live. I could probably make millions doing practically
nothing. I still don't know what to do. The easiest thing to do would be
to obey my parents and become a Mechanical Engineer. I don't know that I
would be happy that way though.
Dan
Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 16:45:30 -0500 (EST)
From: Gene Kieffer <gkiefferATnospamnetaxis.com>
To: mherringtonATnospambcbsal.org
Cc: lodpressATnospamintercom.com, heartzenATnospamlistserv.servtech.com,
kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: HOW?
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Dear Max,
Awakening Kundalini is both a specific phenomenon as well as a
state of mind. If you were to ask a Catholic priest how best to
seek God, he may reply that one should pray for grace, do penance,
perform good works, and, again, pray for God to open the door. "Seek
and ye shall find; knock and the door shall be opened unto you."
Nobody can have an audience with God unless God grants it. We can
only knock at the door. It must be opened from the other side.
There is the perennial question as to what, really, does happen
when a guru gives Shaktipat. Many disciples and followers of such
gurus are more or less predisposed psychologically to believe that
along with Shaktipat they will have an awakening of Kundalini. Since
this phenomenon has not been scientifically investigated, it cannot
be said with any degree of certainty whether or not it "works."
Here we are talking about evolution, which implies major physiological
changes. So it is really an enormous question, freighted with tremendous
emotional potency. In other words, a very touchy subject.
The only reason why I bring it up now is that so many people who
have been awakened in this manner, i.e., by Shaktipat, will try to
get others to request shaktipat. Every hypnotist, especially those
who perform in public, knows that the best audience is one that has
been preconditioned to believe in hypnosis. Hence the advertising:
"World's Greatest Hypnotist!!!" Now the audience is ready to be
hypnotized, and within minutes a good percentage of those present will
be hypnotized.
Now transfer this same phenomenon to those who attend a gathering
of a Shaktipat Guru's followers. They have all heard about this great
guru, this man who can, by the touch of a peacock feather, a glance of
an eye, or whatever, can virtually lift them to a state of higher
consciousness, nulify all karma, and break all the laws of evolution.
Well, if they believe it with their whole heart and soul, something
might happen that changes their lives. I don't question it. Let it be
so!
In your case, I would forego the "lingam massage." Such therapy
definitely has its place in breaking down certain psychological barriers, etc.,
but it won't get you an audience with God. If such were the case, and if
Tantra Yoga, as it is popularly practiced in the West, were able to lift
an ordinary person to the status of a genius, then Tantra Yoga would be
taught on every street corner in the land.
If I were you, I would first let the K. R. F. know your mailing
address so that we can send you a few things to read that will present
a more complete picture of what Kundalini is all about. After you have
read some of this information, you will yourself know exactly what you
should do and how to begin. We are not proslytizing. Our mission is
simply to make the basic knowledge of Kundalini more widely known. We
have no membership, no fees, no followers. Our address is P. O. Box
2248, Darien, CT 06820. But if you leave your mailing address on our
email address, we'll mail the information to you at no charge.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Dear Max (Again)
The above was written (and maybe sent) before we received your second
email, regarding our thoughts on Tantra.
In former times, in India, Tantra was a respected Path to Enlightenment
or Self-Realization among the well-educated and highly intelligent man and
women of India. With the British rule, however, great efforts were made to
discredit this form of Yoga, and these attempts were quite effective in
giving Tantra a bad reputation, etc.
During the years of British rule, when Tantra more or less had to go
underground, it may well be that a lot of its spiritual essence was lost,
as is so often the case. Some years back, a friend of mine discovered
an unopened box in the sixth-floor attic of a townhouse in Manhattan.
The box contained about 60 copies of a handsome, 200-page journal,
with gold-embossed cover, entitled "International Journal -- Tantrik
Order" Under the gold-embossed symbol of a serpent biting its tail
surrounding a Star of David, with a winged globe in the center, were
the words, "Tantrik Order in America."
This Journal, handsomely produced and printed, with numerous illustrations,
was printed in October, 1906, in St. Louis, Missouri. I could hardly believe
it. It proved that a fairly large group of Tantriks was active in the U. S.
at the turn of the century. From the contents of the journal, it seemed to
me that these Tantriks were light-years ahead of those who write about
Tantra Yoga today.
I once spoke to an Enlightened man who said, "The left-hand path is the
right path."
Tantra, as we know, is the left-hand path, which most Christian-oriented
Americans would say is the "wrong" path.
So what it boils down to is the individual and what Tantra means to him
or her. I suspect that many people who call themselves Tantriks are kidding
themselves into believing that they are approaching Divinity every time they
have Tantrik sex with someone. On the other hand, there are no doubt very
sincere, spiritually minded Tantriks who really are on the spiritual path.
Each individual has to make that determination in his/her own heart.
And we need to keep in mind that Tantra encompasses a great deal more than
sex. It is an entire way of life and way of looking at life.
In the Journal of the Tantrik Order of America--the one issue I have--dated
October 1906, there is a bibliography, with this heading: "Collateral
Reading Relative to the Work of the Third or Vamachari Degree of the Tantriks."
The bibliography lists about 50 books, including Higgin's "Anacalypsis,"
"The Gnostics," by C.W. King; Coleman's "Mythology of the Hindus;" Faber's
Dissertation on the "Mysteries of the Cabiri," "The Eleusinian and Bacchic
Mysteries;" etc. Needless to say, of the 50 books listed as "collateral
Reading," I doubt whether the average person practicing Tantra in America
today has read a single one, or any other book of similar erudition.
This has quite a lot of significance. Today, we are exposed to highly
erotic photographs every time we open a magazine, newspaper or turn on
the television. Pornographic magazines, books, and Video Cassettes are
a part of a multibillion-dollar industry.
What this means is that many of us are overwhelmed by these extremely
explicit images on a daily basis, leaving no room for the imagination.
Under such conditions, and due to the general lack of knowledge, it would
seem very nigh to impossible for a sincere seeker after religious truths
to find much it in today's Tantrik circles. It would be a big gamble.
Sincerely,
gene
Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 17:08:14 EST
From: SchrLL <SchrLLATnospamaol.com>
To: CKRESSATnospamaol.com
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Thanks and Happy New Year!
Message-ID: <75de39f4.34aac250ATnospamaol.com>
Happy Holidays! I just received my copy of "Shared Transformations." Thank
you so much for printing the excerpt from my book, "Loved by the Light."
I am so excited I´ll probably dance all night tonight (New Years Eve). What a
great job you did.
I like the picture you put on the front page too. This was an especially nice
story for the holiday issue as well.
I´ll let you know if I get any responses.
Love and Light, Linda ATnospam->->-- (the rose)
Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 17:18:35 -0500 (EST)
From: Gene Kieffer <gkiefferATnospamnetaxis.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Cc: heartzenATnospamlistserv.servtech.com, lodpressATnospamintercomm.com
Subject: Genius Problems
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FROM: Gene To Daniel,
> Those are great questions. What good is genius if it just sits in its
> ivory tower? If we examine history, we will probably discover that almost
> all of the great inventions, discoveries, etc., that have benefited human-
> kind came as the result of some genius. Of course, genius can turn
> malignant and become terribly destructive. The Unabomber is one of the
FROM DANIEL:
I am by most standards, a mathematical genius. I have been
plagued with the desire to do something useful for the world, but I find
myself unable to determine a career path that would permit me to
accomplish as much as I know I am capable. Just yesterday, I fantasized
about disrupting HIV using complex radiation; breaking up a protest
outside an abortion clinic by inspiring the protesters from both sides to
do something more useful (by my standards); getting famous people to pay a
group of top engineers (headed by me) to work directly on one of the
worlds major problems (world hunger and lack of medical care came to
mind); admitting myself into various psychiatric wards across the nation
posing as a patient so I could work full time helping patients as their
friend; asking Steven Hawkings to teach me everything he knows and working
on making use of the theoretical in real applications; finishing my ME
degree in a single semester (rather than three); and studying everything
Tesla and Einstein know about electric, magnetic, and gravitational fields
and trying to make sense of it all including trying to understand how to
manipulate space-time. I have no money. I only aspire to make as much
money as I need to live. I could probably make millions doing practically
nothing. I still don't know what to do. The easiest thing to do would be
to obey my parents and become a Mechanical Engineer. I don't know that I
would be happy that way though.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Dear Daniel,
Genius is as rare as an orchid in the Antartic. Treasure it!
My first thought is that you should definitely get your ME and
then your Ph.D. Regardless of your genius, without those degrees,
you will never be able to realize your full potential, and that would
be a terrible loss not only for yourself but for the world. Of
course, if you are as fortunate as Bill Gates, as a business man, the
academic credentials would not mean too much.
In my case, I'm very far from a genius, but I stumbled across some
extraordinary information many years ago and have written four books
on this information. But because I am not a Ph.D. (B.A. in Journalism),
I can't sell the books. Editors are afraid of them because they
contain so much information that they do not possess, so they think
if they publish the books, they will become the laughingstock of the
publishing industry and their peers. I hope one day to overcome this
handicap by putting some of this information into a non-fiction book,
a novel, which would then let the editors/publishers off the hook.
But in your case, you have the genius, and since you are young, the
best advice I could possibly pass on to you is to be patient. Just
proceed calmly, in a detached manner, to get your M.E. and your Ph.D.
You will still be well under 30 years of age.
As a genius, you need to be extremely careful about your mental and
physical health. Generally speaking, a genius has a much more delicate
constitution than that of ordinary people. This means you must carefully
regulate your life. Regardless of how you feel about it, you must try to
get at least 8 hours sleep every night. You should eat the most whole-
some foods available, on a regular basis, never skipping a meal, etc.
This may sound like I'm prescribing a very boring life-style, and perhaps
I am. But you will get all the excitement you need by the exercise of your
intellect. A lot of geniuses burn out at an early age for the very reasons
I am giving here; they did not realize early on that they had to regulate
their lives. Go to bed at about the same time every night, get up at about
the same time every morning; do some moderate exercises; eat all of your
meals at the same times, morning, noon and evening, etc. This will
automatically regulate all of your internal functions. In this way you
can expect to be highly productive, happy, healthy and worry-free for
a long, long time.
From a spiritual point of view, it would be very helpful if you would
set aside some time every day, preferably early in the morning, for prayer.
This should become one of your main habits. Prayer will bring you the
guidance you need. If you feel so disposed, then fifteen minutes to
thirty minutes of meditation early in the morning might be worth while.
Try to do something for somebody else every day; just some little thing
to be helpful, as a duty you owe to your creator.
These suggestions, if faithfully followed, can work miracles in your
life.
Sincerely,
gene
Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 14:38:17 -0800 (PST)
From: Kurt Keutzer <keutzerATnospamEECS.Berkeley.EDU>
To: kundalini-l-dATnospamlists.execpc.com, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Cc: berryATnospamcnwl.igs.net
Subject: Re: kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #870
Message-Id: <199712312238.OAA00364ATnospamic.EECS.Berkeley.EDU>
>From: John Lounsberry <berryATnospamcnwl.igs.net>
<snip>
> To share a few things that I have found to be true.
> We have 7 primary Chakras only 4 we can influence.
> The above three are influenced by Grace. We may meditate on
>divine images,
>contemplate the beauty of God in the universe, but these chakras are
>influenced by the
>Holy Spirit and entered from above.
John thank you for sharing your profound and genuine experiences (most of
which I have snipped to save bytes).
The sharing of experiences such as these is a great gift to all of us
and is what makes this list of real lasting value.
I have no doubt that you are presenting things as they appear to you
but I wonder if you might be open to some alternatives.
In my limited experience the three higher chakras are certainly open to
the cooling compassionate grace from above but may also be transformed by
the rising kundalini from below. In some individuals, such as myself,
the force of influence of the energy rising is greater than that descending
from above but ultimately these two energies meet and it is in their union
that dualities are transcended.
> I believe it is possible to force a premature awakening. By
>forcing kundalini into the
>brain without Grace we run the risk of many undesirable side effects.
> Patients with divine meditation for guidance may be a more
>natural method to take.
>Live a life of service and one day grace will happen and the Holy Spirit
>will enter
>through the crown and meeting the heart allowing the divinely prepared
>brain to receive
>the kundalini.
That is certainly one path. It is advocated by many teachers but there
are others who prefer the path of kundalini yoga, in its various forms.
(more great stuff snipped)
>Planted in human beings is a powerful reservoir of psychic energy which,
>when roused to
>activity in the state of Kundalini, can lead to a transcendental state.
>Gopi Krishna's personal experience: Suddenly, with a roar like that of a
>waterfall, I felt a
>stream of liquid light entering my brain through the spinal cord... I
>felt the point of
>consciousness that was myself growing wider, surrounded by waves of
>light....
Yes, that's it. But isn't that the kundalini rising? And when it fully
merged with the``grace'' at the crown doesn't your consciousness
expand to fill the entire universe?
>
> Use this network to learn, grow, and help each other. To each of you
>who are truly
>seeking,
Yes, that is the *real* purpose of this listserver. thanks for bringing
us back to focus on it.
>Perhaps we will meet on the path. Its our
>responsibility to teach.
It's an old adage: ``Not all good students are good teachers but all
good teachers were good students.'' Despite the desire to share what we
have found I think that it is best to first temper our understanding with those
who have more fully traversed the path than we have as well as with the
great literature of the many traditions.
I believe that teaching the descent of grace is much safer than teaching
the ascent of kundalini. Still there are many (e.g. the Pentecostal church
of my childhood) who teach the descent with too many bigotted trappings. There
is still some good that comes out but the world has suffered a great deal
under those who tapped into something they believed was ``God's will'' and
then found themselves divinely inspired to due a variety of unwholesome
acts.
Thanks again for sharing. I hope you don't find my comments critical - just
take them as from another student on the path. I hope you'll share your
response with me.
Kind REgards
KUrt
Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 18:43:03 EST
From: SchrLL <SchrLLATnospamaol.com>
To: TeeegeeeATnospamaol.com
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamEXECPC.COM
Subject: Re: Thanks and Happy New Year!
Message-ID: <a46c56d6.34aad88aATnospamaol.com>
Dear Teeegeee,
My book is called "Loved by the Light." It is ony available through the mail
for now. "Shared Transformations" is the newsletter which printed the exerpt.
You can order my book from me directly. As Gene Keiffer has noted, getting
someone to publish books about Kundalin and related subjects is very difficult
unless that someone is a PH D or is already famous. However, myself, El Collie
(Shared Transformations, ckressATnospamaol.com), Gene (Gopi Krishna) and probably
others have decided to get this information out on our own.
I know from experience how valuable it is for those of us going through
Kundalini activation to be able to read about what others have experienced so
we will not feel so alone. Reading Gene's books helped me a lot I know.
I finshed the book before I ever found the Kundalini list, which has helped a
lot also. However I am sure there are many out there who do not have access to
the Internet and this list who could use a good books and newsletters about
Kundalini.
I discuss My personal Kundalini experiences, and lot of other related ideas.
"Loved by the Light" should be a useful New Age Handbook.
Thank you for asking.
Love and Light, Linda
Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 18:46:17 EST
From: RadiantTch <RadiantTchATnospamaol.com>
To: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Self/Observer/Change
Message-ID: <ac6b3c17.34aad94cATnospamaol.com>
In a message dated 97-12-31 16:17:09 EST, you write:
<< :) Barbara Ellen,
When you move the position, each and every facet of your diamod reflects
a "changed" light than it had the moment before, how many facets did you
say your diamond has? :) >>
I didn't. :-) As a diamond, myself, I have an infinite number of facets to
be reflected. Did the light really change, or was it just the position of the
diamond that changed, to reflect it differently? Hmmmmm......another one to
ponder!
Thank you for the smiles, Freda!
Blessings,
Barbara Ellen
Radiant Touch* Healing
Spirit-guided Psychic Advisor/Healer
Healing Words, Healing Energy via E-mail
RadiantTchATnospamaol.com
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