1997/12/30  04:17  
 kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #869 
  
kundalini-l-d Digest				Volume 97 : Issue 869
 
Today's Topics: 
  RE: Science/Kundalini/Genius          [ Mike Stickles <msticklesATnospamantalys.co ] 
  Problems with auras - need help/advi  [ Mike Stickles <msticklesATnospamantalys.co ] 
  Re: Science/Kundalini ( Long )        [ Athena <starwindATnospamgte.net> ] 
  Re: Science                           [ Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic ] 
  Re: Science (and Danger Will Robinso  [ Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic ] 
  Re: Science                           [ Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic ] 
  Genius IQ Level                       [ iri <iriATnospamivyrealty.com> ] 
  Re: Science/Kundalini ( Long )        [ Daniel James Giszczak <danjgATnospamengin. ] 
  Re: Science/Kundalini                 [ David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net> ] 
  Re: Women & sex & kundalini           [ Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic ] 
  Re: Urdhava-retas                     [ DonBBenson <DonBBensonATnospamaol.com> ] 
  Re: Problems with auras - need help/  [ "N. Eckert" <watrfallATnospamniagara.com> ] 
Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 16:00:23 -0500 
From: Mike Stickles <msticklesATnospamantalys.com> 
To: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: RE: Science/Kundalini/Genius 
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When I read these posts about genius and Kundalini, I was reminded of 
the old joke:
 
"So, what does this IQ test really measure?"  
"Intelligence." 
"But, what's intelligence?" 
"It's what my test measures."
 
IQ (what we normally use to identify a "genius") only measures a small 
part of what our minds do. I glanced at a book awhile back (wish I could 
remember the title) which talked about multiple intelligences - spatial, 
logical, musical, kinesthetic, interpersonal, and so on. Makes me wonder 
- if someone is a "genius", which intelligence are they a genius in?
 
I was tagged as having a genius-level IQ as a child, several years 
before my K awakening (though I tend not to trust the IQ numbers too 
far, since my IQ test results have varied between 134 and 185 over the 
last 30 years). For me, a high IQ helped since my learning style is 
well-suited for schools (enabling me to sail through college, at the 
cost of reinforcing a highly-developed laziness) and my chosen 
profession of computer programming is a very logical/mathematical field. 
However, though my Dad has consistently tested with an "average" IQ of 
105-110, he is definitely "smarter" than me in common sense, woodcraft, 
survival skills, mechanical ability, kinesthetics, interpersonal skills, 
and on and on.
 
I think "genius" may have to be tagged with one or more modifiers to 
note the field(s) - "mathematical genius", "mechanical genius", 
"interpersonal/intuitive genius" - to be a useful descriptor.
 
- Mike 
Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 16:13:39 -0500 
From: Mike Stickles <msticklesATnospamantalys.com> 
To: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Problems with auras - need help/advice 
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In the last hour or so I've had a "flare-up" of auras becoming visible 
without my having to deliberately look for them. That much is common for 
me, but this time the auras are in constant flux - color, size, texture, 
and depth are constantly varying - making it difficult at times to focus 
my eyes and see what I'm working on. Any ideas on how to get them 
settled down, or at least adjust to them so I can focus my eyes 
consistently?
 
- Mike 
Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 15:54:51 -0600 
From: Athena <starwindATnospamgte.net> 
To: Gloria Lee <samyanaATnospamhotmail.com> 
CC: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com 
Subject: Re: Science/Kundalini ( Long ) 
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Gloria Lee wrote: 
>  
> The 
> many phenomena which DO occur with K seem to bypass the thinking mind 
> and go to some form of direct knowing, as mentioned later in Jack's 
> post.  The greater heart intuition is yet again another form of knowing. 
> I just have never associated these with genius..people's descriptions of 
> awakening posted to the list do not evoke that impression either, lovely 
> as they may be. What do the rest of you think about this??
 
Well Glorybe, I guess that depends how you define *genius*. If it is 
strictly defined as 'superior intellect', I would tend to doubt that 
K-rising had much to do with it.
 
But if defined as direct *knowing*, as I am hearing you say, it makes 
sense to me. To me, K is an attribute of spirit. And spirit KNOWS. 
Mind/intellect can only surmise or reason. I am not saying there is 
anything *wrong* with intellect, as long as we are navigating in 3D 
'reality'. 
 
The *knowing* comes from the heart, when one puts aside fear for just a 
minit, and comes from unconditional Love. And I believe k-rising has a 
great deal to do with opening the heart.
 
So, that is what *this* rest of us thinks about that.
 
On the path of infinite possibilities
 
Athena
 
--  
Love and Light unto your Path...THERE IS ONLY ONE OF US...Athena 
Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 16:20:09 -0600 
From: Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic.net> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com 
Subject: Re: Science 
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Gene Kieffer <gkiefferATnospamnetaxis.com> wrote:
 
>Dear Stephen, 
> 
>    Thanks very much for the information on new and better tools for 
>measuring magnetic fields, chakra energies, etc. 
> 
>    I have no doubt that scientific apparatus will continue to improve 
>year by year and that measuring subtle energies, nerve energy, psychic 
>energy, prana, chi, etc., will become commonplace. 
> 
>    But let's say that somebody claims to have this kind of energy 
>running through his/her system in an extremely powerful manner.  Over 
>the years, we have encountered a great many individuals who say they 
>have this energy, etc. 
> 
>    But what if these same people are still just ordinary in so far as 
>their intellectual abilities?   If they have Kundalini active in the 
>highest centers, the brain, they ought to exhibit genius.  This is 
>clearly stated in numerous ancient texts on Kundalini and should be 
>the first thing anyone thinks about when it comes time to begin 
>testing Kundalini scientifically.  Energy surrounding the chakras is 
>one thing, but genius is another.
 
Genius is a tricky word.  A man may have a genius I.Q., but we don't refer 
to him as a genius unless he does something unusual and very outstanding in 
his life.  We call a great artist a genius, although he may not have a high 
I.Q. - creativity and intelligence are not the same thing and are not 
measured with the same tests.
 
What is really important?  Is it intelligence, which, as you say, we are 
transcending?  Muktananda says, "When She is awakened, lives which had 
seemed commonplace and arid, unenjoyable and frustrated, become gay and 
flourishing, filled with sweetness, contentment, and delight." Of the 
enlightened man he says: "He is established in wisdom, ever free; he has 
found the divine joy of the Absolute."  Wisdom is different from and more 
than genius. 
Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 16:41:15 -0600 
From: Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic.net> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com 
Subject: Re: Science (and  Danger Will Robinson?) LONG RAMBLE 
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To Kathy <deliriumATnospamfull-moon.com>:
 
What an experience, Kathy, and you tell it so beautifully!
 
In telling about your first experience you said:
 
>Anyway, the idea of genius and kundalini awakening going hand-in-glove 
>would possibly be consistent with my experience..
 
I'm afraid a 5-point difference wouldn't prove anything.  I think test 
performance can vary a good deal from one day to another, depending on many 
things, and you were obviously at a peak!  Also, I think it's normal for IQ 
to go up over the years.  It's been a long time since I've read any of this 
stuff, but I think the Stanford/Binet people followed a large group of 
their early subjects for many years and found IQs going up normally.
 
Not trying to knock your experiences - I'm so happy for you! - I just think 
it doesn't prove anything about IQ.
 
Ann 
Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 17:44:23 -0600 
From: Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic.net> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com 
Subject: Re: Science 
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Gene Kieffer <gkiefferATnospamnetaxis.com> wrote:
 
>>    But what if these same people are still just ordinary in so far as 
>>their intellectual abilities?   If they have Kundalini active in the 
>>highest centers, the brain, they ought to exhibit genius.
 
Still thinking about all this.  These hypothetical people are going to have 
various IQs to begin with, so I don't know why they'd all end up at the 
same level.  I don't think you're going to find your batch of geniuses.
 
But it might make sense to ask how many people doing meditation and/or 
kundalini work have experienced heightened ability - and whether it was 
temporary or permanent.  (Of course, this isn't proof of anything - for 
proof you're going to have to give a lot of IQ tests for a long time.)
 
I remember one time when I seemed to move into new mental capacity. It was 
in 1963, so I was already meditating for some time by then.  I read 
Margaret Meade's book "New Lives for Old," in which she tells about living 
with Stone Age people in New Guinea and then returning 25 years later to 
find that they'd suddenly leaped several thousand years to modern times 
because of exposure to our culture due to the war. For some reason, that 
book really struck me.
 
Then I read Teilhard de Chardin's "Phenomenon of Man." It's a difficult 
book, but an important one. He's been called the greatest synthetic thinker 
since Aquinas. He wanted to express so many new ideas he had to invent new 
words to use.  So I read the first chapter and figured out what he meant by 
all the new words and then went back and started over again.  I was 
fascinated by the book - couldn't put it down.
 
After that my mind was different. Everything I read seemed to fall right 
into its place with everything else I'd read.  I don't know how else to 
explain it. And that was permanent.
 
Then in the late '60s or early '70s I was traveling with my family in the 
car at night.  We stopped at a gas station that appeared to be all metal 
and glass.  Just then a terrific thunderstorm struck right there.  The 
lightning was close, all around us.  Afterward we got in the car and went 
on down the highway.  I was watching the fence posts go by slowly and 
wondered why we were going so slow.  I looked at the speedometer and it 
said 80 or 85!
 
"Bob, look at the speedometer!" I said.
 
"Oh my God, " he said, and then looked around.  "But we're going so slow!" 
He slowed down and then we were really crawling.
 
Something had happened, apparently because of the lightning.  It seemed 
that we were operating at a higher rate of vibration. When we were going 
80, those fence posts were coming by so slowly I could look them over and 
see various little things that you'd never see at a high speed.
 
It lasted an hour or so and then slowly went away and we were normal again.
 
And this year I've felt much of the time that I'm operating at a higher 
rate than before - well, not like the lightning effect!  But here's a 
thought - if something happens like operating at a higher rate of 
vibration, a person might have the same IQ but SEEM to be brighter.
 
Ann 
Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 16:45:32 -0800 
From: iri <iriATnospamivyrealty.com> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com 
Subject: Genius IQ Level 
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>From time to time people seem to talk about IQ Level or more precisiely the 
Genius Level IQ...
 
The scales and methods of measurements seem to continue to change over the 
years. When I was a young lad and in my grade 7 or grade 8 year, I took a 
barage of test. One such test was the "state of the art" IQ test of the day 
(sorry I do not remember the name of the test). At that time, Genius level 
was approximately 142 or 145 on the scale of the day. My rating was 136 or 
138...No idea what the scale is today or what my IQ level is today, after 
years of increasing my knowledge and brain utilization and of course brain 
development.
 
This fixation on IQ level is really irelevant for most things. For example, 
how you get along with others is a personality trait not an IQ issue. 
Let's not overdue this IQ thing, please. There are many issues worth 
focusing on. I, for one, do not believe that IQ is a particularly important 
focal point. But then that is my opinion, which you may or may not share. 
  
Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 21:15:40 -0500 (EST) 
From: Daniel James Giszczak <danjgATnospamengin.umich.edu> 
To: Athena <starwindATnospamgte.net> 
cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com 
Subject: Re: Science/Kundalini ( Long ) 
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> Well Glorybe, I guess that depends how you define *genius*. If it is 
> But if defined as direct *knowing*, as I am hearing you say, it makes 
 Would anyone disagree with the statement that *knowing* does not 
easily translate into mathematical symbols since it is a matter of the 
heart, and that in order to produce things to add to the intellectual 
world, one must learn from teachers and books and observation and 
experimentation and then innovate with that knowledge.  Of course, being 
kundalini awakened would give a person more of his resources to use in the 
endeavor. 
 Dan 
Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 22:28:45 -0500 
From: David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net> 
To: Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com> 
Subject: Re: Science/Kundalini  
Message-ID: <34A86A6D.4283ATnospammail.snet.net> 
 
Athena wrote:
 
> I am not saying there is 
> anything *wrong* with intellect, as long as we are navigating in 3D 
> 'reality'.
 
Yes, we need bridges. 
But the intellect has never given me what I've thirsted for.
 
> The *knowing* comes from the heart, when one puts aside fear for just a 
> minit, and comes from unconditional Love. And I believe k-rising has a 
> great deal to do with opening the heart.
 
Yes. Here is where my thirst is quenched. 
Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 22:03:10 -0600 
From: Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic.net> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com 
Subject: Re: Women & sex & kundalini 
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A woman on the list wrote:
 
>I am going through a stage of enormous change in my life with many Uranus 
>transits and I feel the need to exchange information with like minded 
>souls. ... 
>The major cause of my distress was that my husband of 12 years suddenly 
>left me in February this year  and I have been absolutely devastated. I am 
>an intensely sexual person and find living without a man intolerable. I 
>have however had powerful expereinces of Shakti outside of sex and wonder 
>whether that is what I am needing to learn now. I got the impression that 
>you have experiences in this area and you said you had been celibate for a 
>long time which is no mean feat for a Scorpio.
 
Well, I didn't do it for fun, but a lot of people are dying of AIDS because 
they went to bed casually or even with someone they trusted who was lying - 
and I'd rather be celibate!
 
Yes, kundalini work is very sexual for me, at least right now.  So much 
that I don't feel the need of a man for sex. But it isn't a complete 
substitute for a man. It would be nice to have a man around the house - for 
talking and hugging and going places together. And in sex, it would be good 
to be with another person again.
 
(But I'm sort of an optimist - I try not to think much about what I don't 
have and think about how wonderful the life I have is!  And there are 
definite advantages to living alone.  No one telling me I should go to bed 
- should do this, should do that.  I do exactly what I feel like doing, 
when I feel like doing it.  I won't marry again in a hurry - I'll be very 
careful. One thing I know for sure - it's much better to live alone than to 
live in an unhappy marriage!)
 
And as for whether what I'm doing is what you need to learn ...  I didn't 
set out to do something sexual, and I'm not doing this on purpose. I'm not 
in control here, Shakti is. I just try not to control, to stay out of the 
way and let Shakti work, altho I'm certainly right there, participating.
 
And I don't know how long it will stay this way. Right now all centers are 
involved, but the major emphasis seems to be on the lower two centers. 
Maybe it will change and focus on other centers.
 
Still, it seems to me that the whole thing is very sexual, even when it's 
focusing on other centers. The whole body seems sexual to me.
 
So - I don't know whether you could bring about this kind of sexual Shakti 
experience at will or whether you should.  From what I've read, it seems 
that people who are working to control Shakti can have some pretty severe 
and nasty symptoms, which seem to get better or go away when they just 
relax and go with it.
 
Also, it may be that there's a time when work with the lower centers is 
good and a time when it isn't.  Of course, I don't know much about this. 
I've taught meditation for a long time, but I've only been into this 
kundalini thing for a short time.  Gloria (on the list) teaches the kind of 
meditation that is designed to arouse kundalini.  I've read her meditation 
instructions and she seems to be directing it by planning meditation on 
certain centers.  But also she's experienced in helping people who have 
problems with it.  Her instructions show what she considers to be the best 
progression - starting with the heart center and working upward.  After the 
work with the head centers, she says, is the time to work with the lower 
centers.
 
On the other hand, I've read Muktenanda's autobiography, and he seemed to 
get into sexual stuff pretty early.  Poor man was totally shocked - he was 
celibate and thought he'd subdued his penis once and for ever. And then it 
took on a life of its own in his meditations!  His teacher hadn't told him 
anything, and he was full of shame and guilt and loathing. Finally he found 
a book that told him that what was happening was perfectly normal - big 
sigh of relief! Still, he was very glad when it moved on and his 
specifically sexual activity stopped. Of course, he was roaring into the 
night every night like a tiger - scaring the neighbors to death - with his 
tongue protruding as far as it would go. But he didn't seem to realize that 
this was sexual - talk about sublimation!
 
Well, just some things to think about and talk about further. I don't even 
know what stage you're at with your meditation / kundalini work.
 
>>Used to have a wonderful memory but it's been real fuzzy lately. Probably 
>>the horrendous stress I've been under this year and maybe menopause on the 
>>horizon too.
 
I've heard recently that memory problems are common with loss of estrogen, 
and I think that can cause depression, too. Maybe you should have some 
estrogen pills.  I had a hysterectomy and have been taking estrogen ever 
since. Best of all possible worlds - no monthly ups and downs, no periods, 
no chance of getting pregnant, no menopause symptoms, no depression, etc.
 
>Anyway, let me know whether you feel too that we should keep in touch and 
>whether you can suggest books etc that would be useful.
 
I'm not widely read in this area of kundalini, but I can recommend 
"Kundalini Experience" by Dr. Lee Sannella.  It's written by a doctor for 
doctors. It includes lots of personal accounts by people whose kundalini 
awakened spontaneously, as well as quotes from authorities. It also 
includes the original paper by Bentov, who studied the phenomenon from a 
scientific standpoint - writes about brain waves, etc.
 
Muktananda was recommended to me, and I've read two of his books, 
"Kundalini: the Secret of Life" and "I Am That," besides his autobiography, 
"Play of Consciousness." Very good - he seems to have been one of the few 
gurus willing to communicate what they know - well, most of it.
 
His successor, who now holds the tradition, is a woman, Swami 
Chidvilasananda, who has also written books; I haven't read any of them 
yet. If you don't find anything by these two in your bookstore, I can give 
you an address.
 
I don't know how much you've read. I wrote a report/summary of Sannella's 
book for my healing/ health teacher, because she said she didn't know much 
about it and I thought she should be able to recognize kundalini symptoms 
when she saw them.  If you want to see it, I'll send it.
 
As for astrology books, are you familiar with Stephen Arroyo's book, 
"Astrology, Karma & Transformation: The Inner Dimensions of the Birth 
Chart"? Very good!  In fact, I think I'll send you some pages from the 
chapter on Pluto.  He also has an earlier book which I haven't read on 
astrology and the four psychological functions a la Jung - intuition, 
feeling, etc.
 
Love, 
Ann
 
P.S. Would you mind if I put part of this answer on the list without your 
name or any details that might show who you are? 
Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 00:33:40 EST 
From: DonBBenson <DonBBensonATnospamaol.com> 
To: at3ATnospamearthlink.net 
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, DonBBensonATnospamaol.com, gkiefferATnospamnetaxis.com 
Subject: Re: Urdhava-retas 
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In a message dated 97-12-21 19:28:01 EST, at3ATnospamearthlink.net writes: 
<< Dear Don, 
     Thank you for sharing this. I am very curious though and if you don't 
mind 
 sharing a bit more related to this, were you at the time celibate? THis seems 
 to be an important point as mentioned in Mr.Kiefer's post and in other 
 literature on have come across re: the need restrain from passing out this 
 vital fluid/essence, in order to re-direct it either consciously or, as in 
 some cases the process occurs without conscious direction.  
     I personally find this topic intensely interesting as I have been 
practicing 
 meditation for many years AND am driven by fierce erotic desires. So any help 
 in this area would be greatly appreciated. I do not work with any teacher and 
 have not for the past 13 years. 
     Sincerely,    Mike  >>
 
Dear Mike, 
     From my own history, I can readily identify with your situation and 
appreciate the difficulties you have experienced.  Because human sexuality 
involves many dimensions and parameters of reality, a simple yes or no answer 
to your question about celibacy is bound to raise more questions than it 
answers. 
     The capacity for celibacy is acknowledged in most cultures as a special 
gift by divine grace.  In the Holy Bible, this issue is addressed in Matthew 
19:10-12 and 1Corinthians 7:1-9.  Some men and women are born with a gift for 
celibacy and others receive it later in life, and (though it may be difficult 
at times) it is natural for them to abstain (from *wet dreams,* masturbation, 
and sexual intercourse) and to direct their vital energy into other activities 
and experiences.  When a person is divinely enabled to practice chastity, he 
or she must follow that path to realize his or her full potential as a human 
being.  For all others with spiritual aspirations, moderation is the key. 
     I have withdrawn from the K-list to free up more time, energy, and space 
for completing a textbook on the coming of God's kingdom, but in my few weeks 
of participation I read much helpful advice from many different perspectives 
and traditions regarding sexuality and spirituality.  An excellent example of 
sound teaching relating to your question is the paper by Professor Harsha 
Luther on *The Spiritual Experience and the Awakening of Kundalini Shakti in 
Tantra Yoga.* 
     People tend to get into trouble when going to extremes -- either by 
trying to bottle up all their sexual energy or by throwing off all restraints 
in pursuit of sexual pleasures.  A balanced life is best.  
     I believe God created us for glorious, fruitful fellowship with Himself 
and one another.  I see Kundalini as the God-given sexual fuel and fire that 
empowers us to live meaningful lives as productive citizens of heaven and 
earth.  I believe the most important question is -- what is the purpose of 
your life?  As you begin to understand who you are created to be in God and 
what He has called you to do in this life, then you will find full and 
productive expression of all your sexual energy in fullfilling your identity 
and calling.  This is bound to include significant work, friendships, and 
participation in the larger physical, social, and spiritual community -- 
whether or not you get married and raise children.  The Scriptures exhort us 
all to be actively engaged in loving God and our neighbors as ourselves.  Not 
just with feelings, thoughts, and words, but *with all your heart, with all 
your soul, with all your mind, and with all your strength.* 
     By age nineteen I was so thoroughly conditioned (by the devilish 
doctrines of Immanuel Kant, Charles Darwin, Karl Marx, and Sigmund Freud) that 
I had greater regard for my own immediate sexual impulses and desires than for 
my Creator and Redeemer. 
     In the midst of my classical Kundalini awakening experience in 1963, I 
asked God about a mate.  When He showed me the desirability in my case of 
being celibate and not marrying until my mid thirties, I rebelled and said, *I 
can't wait that long.*  Jesus said, *I am a friend who sticks closer than a 
brother. You can do all things with My help.*  *It is better to marry than to 
burn,* said I, quoting Scripture like the devil.  *Okay,* said the Lord, *I'll 
talk with you later when you have learned the value of living by faith.*  And 
the glory of the Lord departed from me. 
     Kathryn Kuhlman said of her gospel ministry in the 1960s and 1970s that 
God first chose a man to carry out that ministry, but the man refused and she 
didn't. 
     Due to my rebellion against God in the 1960s and 1970s, my experience of 
Urdhava-retas is limited, and I have not yet realized my full potential in any 
area of life.  It is written, *God is not mocked; for whatever a man sows, 
that he will also reap.  For he who sows to his flesh will of the flesh reap 
corruption, but he who sows to the Spirit will of the Spirit reap everlasting 
life.* (Galatians 6:7-8)  Having sowed to the Spirit all her life, Kathryn 
Kuhlman has gone on from glory to glory.  Having sowed to my flesh, I am still 
of the flesh reaping corruption.  But, since March 1981 when I repented and 
received Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior, I have been sowing to the Spirit. 
     Though my life seems fruitless thus far, I believe that *He who 
continually goes forth weeping, bearing seed for sowing, shall doubtless come 
again with rejoicing, bringing his sheaves with him.* (Psalm 126:6) 
     Sincerely,  Don Benson 
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 13:30:32 -0500 
From: "N. Eckert" <watrfallATnospamniagara.com> 
To: "Mike Stickles" <msticklesATnospamantalys.com>, <Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com> 
Subject: Re: Problems with auras - need help/advice 
Message-Id: <199712300624.BAA09242ATnospamren.niagara.com> 
 
Hi Mike,
 
Sometimes when things come in that are new.. they seem really overwhelming 
util they settle in a bit. Usually it all happens by itself. 
I think it may be a way of spirit getting our attention and saying look! at 
this:) 
pretty cool huh? :)
 
WatrFall
 
 
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> From: Mike Stickles <msticklesATnospamantalys.com> 
> To: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
> Subject: Problems with auras - need help/advice 
> Date: Monday, December 29, 1997 4:13 PM 
>  
> In the last hour or so I've had a "flare-up" of auras becoming visible 
> without my having to deliberately look for them. That much is common for 
> me, but this time the auras are in constant flux - color, size, texture, 
> and depth are constantly varying - making it difficult at times to focus 
> my eyes and see what I'm working on. Any ideas on how to get them 
> settled down, or at least adjust to them so I can focus my eyes 
> consistently? 
>  
> - Mike
 
 
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