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kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #822


kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 97 : Issue 822

Today's Topics:
  descent of the devine [ Solar Lion <gtaATnospamcwnet.com> ]
  Re: Emotional Plague [ "Joseph Miller" <joemillerATnospamhotmail. ]
  Re: Dreaming [ M <chooseagainATnospamthegrid.net> ]
  Aura fields and 1st chakra [ "Joseph Miller" <joemillerATnospamhotmail. ]
  Re: Earth Resonance - A question [ Morgana Wyze <morganaATnospambest.com> ]
  Re: Scratching the dog [ Athena <starwindATnospamgte.net> ]
  Help with terminology [ Mike Stickles <msticklesATnospamantalys.co ]
  Re: Dreaming [ Ruth Trimble <trimbleATnospamhawaii.edu> ]
  More on the [ "Joseph Miller" <joemillerATnospamhotmail. ]
  Thirty three among other things... [ LilEli <LilEliATnospamaol.com> ]
  IC Implants [ Kurt Keutzer <keutzerATnospamsynopsys.com> ]
  Re: HRTZEN: Re: Enlightenment & Pier [ acarre <acarreATnospamconcentric.net> ]
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 15:07:29 -0800
From: Solar Lion <gtaATnospamcwnet.com>
To: <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: descent of the devine
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greetings all,

The descent of the devine can be accomplished thru interactive chat
for those that are ready to receive that light.

an open eye meditation that requires no concentration - no doing - no
trying. as always in these matters there is no charge.

ICQ 2742596 (also many other chat programs available)

http://home.cwnet.com/gta/

(for informational purposes - as to what we are about)

the elements of the meditation are in three stages:
(total about 20 minutes to 1/2 hour)
(can be accomplished thru group chat also)

1.psychic protection
  balance, unification & cleansing of the 10,000 chakras
  (the kundalini is active in a very controlled manner)
  peace as an energy and a tool

2.enhanced awareness of higher self

3.conscious awareness of the beings of light

may peace be with you and yours

Solar Lion (Bob)

these meditations are not part of a system -
but from direct guidance in the light.
for those that have studied long - many elements will be familiar
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 15:08:33 PST
From: "Joseph Miller" <joemillerATnospamhotmail.com>
To: madammumATnospamptialaska.net
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Emotional Plague
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In reply to:
>From: valerian <madammumATnospamptialaska.net>
>Subject: Re: Emotional Plague
>
><snip>
>> Have no fear logic is almost gone from modern society. Feelings rule!
>> May God have mercy on us.

>v: hey there! i finally found your post about the Nazis & all, & i must
>comment that i find your constructs as to what feelings are to be very
>different from my own.

OK, what are feelings to you?

> i do not agree that the Nazis were operating from feelings, but the
>opposite thereof; a devious & calculating greed & self-righteousness
>which belies total lack of concern for others. if they had had any
>feelings of note, they could not have cold-heartedly & systematically
>been about mass genocide for the aryan superiority cause.

The people they killed or forced out of their country and conquered
territories were often the brightest and most productive. They killed
and destroyed because of hate (last time I checked that was an emotion
by anybody's dictionary). I will grant there is a logical kind of
exploitation. But it would be just that exploitation, not murder. Greed
is also an emotion. Decompose greed to its basis; that basis is "I want"
and wants are based on "feelings" at some level.

Calculating greed ... I assume that to be someone who is calculating in
his/her manner and whose actions are based on greed ... is just applying
a logically conceived process to achieve an emotionally defined goal.
Much as a boy might find himself doing things he really doesn't like or
enjoy to help or impress a girl, to whom he is attracted, to see him in
a better light and perhaps develop the same feelings about him. Guess
that is "calculating love". (The genders are interchangeable in that
observation on love.)

I am afraid I must insist in hearing how genocide is not based on hatred
or some other emotion (I can't imagine what other emotion it might be
though).

> yes, fat people eat to mask feelings; it is an unhealthy response.
>but, it is also feelings that cause the stressed & forlorn to get out &
>exercise, or meditate, or pursue *truth* to alleviate the very same
>feelings of alienation & suffering.

I may be the rare person but I exercise because of a primal instinct
that some place prior to logic or feelings. I want to live! Logic says
if I don't exercise and keep from gaining more weight, and even
hopefully loose some of what I now weigh, I will die sooner. I can
figure that one and feel it. I will be honest most of the time I hate to
take the time, to get so sweaty in the muggy summer, to freeze in the
chilly winter, to strain muscles, and to realize my body is not as young
and doesn't repair as easily as it once did. No, I exercise out of logic
and a sense of self preservation and I am honest enough to tell the
truth about it.

As to "pursue *truth*"... How does one know truth without using
discrimination? One can't simply feel "truth." One must examine a thing
to decide if it is true. The ultimate truth requires even more
examination (as well as meditation, prayer, etc.). I would submit that
feelings can't even discover "truth" for discrimination to examine, if
one grants me the clarification that intuition, though many in the U.S.
call it a "feeling", is in fact something else entirely and not just a
brother of love, hate, and their crowd.

> this society is currently engaged in mass welfare reforms, & putting
>even more people out on the street, or beholden to *charities*. it is
>done by passing 'mass judgements' in the forms of litigation, & is an
>almost entirely logical process.

Sorry all those things were done by passing laws (no comment whether I
agree with them or not). And they were passed because enough people felt
taken advantage of by the then current system and wanted the system
changed (again no comment on my position).

Litigation is when someone files a lawsuit. Those are less and less
often settled by anything approaching a logical process. How else can
one account for a $50,000,000 judgement for a bad paint job on a BMW or
over $10,000,000 for someone who went through a drive through and then
spilled hot coffee on herself? Logic would say they have to do something
like give the guy a new car and cover your lawyer's fees in the first
case. In the second .... well most people want their coffee hot and does
anyone expect to go through a drive through and not spill something on
themselves sometime or another?

> sure, if you take those kida in the ghettos in gangs & random
>drive-by shootings, they are based on untransmuted negative energy.
but,
>this is an extreme example. crime is often passion based, except for
>the one's logically premeditated. but, you cannot base a sampling of a
>whole society on it's *worse common denominators*, i.e. fat people,
>abusive people, drunks & drug addicts. i think when you take in the
>*bigger picture* you will see that the forces in control in this
society
>are entirely logical, with no compassion nor empathy whatsoever.

All crime is based on emotions. Most violence is against a "loved one"
in the heat of the moment. Theft is based on greed, an emotion.

OK, now I think I see your definition pretty well now. You have
eliminated at least half of the feelings from the list. Anything that
lacks compassion and empathy seems to get lumped into logical or at
least as a non-feeling activity. Don't know where you get your
definitions, they have to be axioms in your world otherwise they would
never fit into any system of definitions or explanations.

Namaste,

Joe

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Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 15:20:52 -0800 (PST)
From: M <chooseagainATnospamthegrid.net>
To: Ruth Trimble <trimbleATnospamhawaii.edu>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Dreaming
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At 12:28 PM 12/12/97 -1000, Ruth Trimble wrote:
>I wish I had dreams... does anyone else not have them...? I just go off
>and do all kinds of running around while I sleep,(busy little tasks to
>clear up things around the planet etc. ) but I cannot call it
>dreams and when I occasionally do wake up realizing I was having a sort of
>dream, I know that I was watching myself have the dream and it is not
>quite the same fun that way! No one believes me when I say I don't
>dream... but I really do not. ... unless you call sitting in the movie
>theatre watching the movie the same as being in the movie!

Ruth, I think you should look into this - medically. I had been a lucid
dreamer for most of my adult life. I was chemically injured in September
and suddenly lost my memory of and access to my dreams (along with loosing
my short term memory, my coordination, ability to breathe in average doses
of common toxins, my stamina, etc.) After lots of treatments and rest, etc.
several of these things were gradually improving a bit here and there. My
ability to remember my dreams was too. . . particularly if I slept a long
time or managed to sweat while sleeping.

Recently I have been undergoing a metal detox and feel so many of these
symptoms have come back stronger all over again - - - including the loss of
my dreams. It makes me so sad. I feel I loose a big part of my spirituality
and lots of my celelstial guidance along with the dreams. I hope the detox
will ultimately bring them back full force.

So, I recommend that you check it out. There may be more to this than is
apparent. M
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 15:28:29 PST
From: "Joseph Miller" <joemillerATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com, daniel-leaATnospamhotmail.com
Subject: Aura fields and 1st chakra
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In reply to:
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Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 15:46:43 -1000 (HST)
From: daniel lea <daniel-leaATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center
Message-Id: <199712120146.PAA20515ATnospamhaleakala.aloha.net>

do you have to first see the aura fields in living things before you
open the
first chakra? Also, are there signs before it actually opens?
---------
Daniel,

Not on your life! Some people can see auras at birth, some have that
ability come to them and never get the first chakra open in their entire
lifetime. These people are using different channels in the body than the
main ones that Kundalini takes out of an "open first chakra" (though
most will just know what they can do, not how they can do it).

Following the route (nadis) that can ultimately lead to enlightenment
the auras will come after the brow chakra is open. It can come at throat
but that like the case in the paragraph mentioned above is not a sign of
progress toward enlightenment beyond where the K was before the seeing
of the auras. After ajna it is a sign of progress.

As to signs before it actually opens, that depends on a lot of things. I
know a number of people who had risings up to third, fourth, or fifth
chakra before they had a clue they were successful in their attempts to
make it awake. Others have had much more dramatic experiences and had it
struggle to find the right pathway out, that group would include me.

Good luck!

Namaste,

Joe


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Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 15:28:15 -0800
From: Morgana Wyze <morganaATnospambest.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Earth Resonance - A question
Message-ID: <3491C88F.6200ATnospambest.com>

The Lesser Half wrote:
>
> For those of you that make use of the Earth's resonance for healing,
> etc. Has anyone noticed a change in the resonance since December 8th ?

> Also since the eight I've had a lot of trouble with electromagnetic
> fields.

Mercury went retrograde Dec. 7th and will turn on Dec. 27th. You are
experiencing Mercury complications. I've had car problems, strange
communication and publication mishaps, and computer bugs.
To accomplish your work, ground into the earth and then run the energy
UP and reverse your ground, using the HIGH CHAKRA ABOVE YOUR HEAD AS
YOUR GROUND. This is a more effective healing practice if you are
already a grounded individual, because it gives you a complete circuit.
The energy will ground up and then flow down to the ground, like a
fountain. This cleanses your energy as you work and eliminates picking
up your client's energies.
Morgana
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 17:41:23 -0600
From: Athena <starwindATnospamgte.net>
To: Mike Stickles <msticklesATnospamantalys.com>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Scratching the dog
Message-ID: <3491CBA3.782ATnospamgte.net>

Wonderful story Mike... Jesus also taught in parables :)

Mike Stickles wrote:
>
> I was remembering a childhood event that might help
> explain where I was coming from on the whole issue
> of hostility:
>
> When i was younger my family had three pets - two
> cats (Midnight and Princess) and a huge Great Dane
> named Tiki. Princess loved to be scratched under the
> chin - she'd purr and roll over right in your lap, asking
> for more. Midnight didn't care for it - he'd turn away
> from you and wander off. And Tiki thought it was OK,
> but she had a limited tolerance - a minute or so was
> all she wanted.
>
> Our neighbors had a massive Great Dane named Max
> (if he stood on his hind legs, he could put his front
> paws on my dad's shoulders and rest his jowls on top
> of dad's head - and my dad is 6' 0"). I was visiting one
> day when Max came up and nuzzled me. Without
> thinking I started to scratch him under his chin - and
> he came within an inch of biting my nose off. He was
> such a gentle dog that I couldn't understand why he
> snapped (once I calmed down enough to think straight,
> that is), but then my neighbor remembered that Max
> had undergone jaw surgery a few weeks before, and
> was undoubtedly still quite sensitive under the chin. I
> had hit his "touchy" spot, and he reacted.
>
> So when I'm participating in discussions and debates,
> I can handle Midnights and Tikis, and love to find a
> Princess - but I'm always on the lookout for Max and
> his chin.
>
> - Mike

--
Love and Light unto your Path...THERE IS ONLY ONE OF US...Athena
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 19:01:25 -0500
From: Mike Stickles <msticklesATnospamantalys.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Help with terminology
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Although I've been picking up the approximate meanings
of some of the terms used here via context (words like
granthas, shaktipat, kriyas, etc.), there are a lot that I
am still clueless about (Nitya Siddha, Kevala Nirvikalpa
Samadhi, and so on). Can anyone recommend a good
basic text that will let me catch up on the vocabulary?

- Mike
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 14:02:53 -1000
From: Ruth Trimble <trimbleATnospamhawaii.edu>
To: M <chooseagainATnospamthegrid.net>
cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Dreaming
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Hi M.
> At 12:28 PM 12/12/97 -1000, Ruth Trimble wrote:
> >I wish I had dreams... does anyone else not have them...? I just go off
Oh dear you don't believe me either...
and you think I am SICK! M!

> Ruth, I think you should look into this - medically. I had been a lucid
> dreamer for most of my adult life. I was chemically injured in September
Well M. I have never been a lucid dreamer.. and I have not been chemically
injured as you have. As far as I know except for halucinating and bad
dreams when a child, I have almost no memory of dreaming on a regular
basis. I have a lousy memory, but that is probably estrogen
imbalances... and age and stress... How can I miss it when I never really
had this?
> Recently I have been undergoing a metal detox and feel so many of these
> symptoms have come back stronger all over again - - - including the loss of
> my dreams. It makes me so sad. I feel I loose a big part of my spirituality
> and lots of my celelstial guidance along with the dreams. I hope the detox
> will ultimately bring them back full force.
 Dear M. I am sorry to hear about your feelings about your dreams. But I
must assure you that though I am not aware of dreaming and as far as I
know have no dreams.. my imagination is very much alive..and thriving..
and where most people metitate with their eyes closed... I do it while
awake and I have most of my "dreams or visions" with my eyes fully open.
Yes... I guess I am not like you in this.. .but I would love to hear of
anyone else in the same boat as me. I feel that there is almost no
division between dreaming and waking at some point...they sort of
merge..and this happened a long time ago...so I have not much memory of
being different to this.
 
> So, I recommend that you check it out. There may be more to this than is
> apparent. M
> Well thanks for the concern.. but I am not going to mess with my
success!
Ruth

******
*****
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 16:19:04 PST
From: "Joseph Miller" <joemillerATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com, trimbleATnospamhawaii.edu
Subject: More on the
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Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 12:54:48 -1000
From: Ruth Trimble <trimbleATnospamhawaii.edu>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #820
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Hi Joe Miller:
' you write >>>
I don't know what you're smoking or snorting, but maybe you should give
it a break. When reality has become a stranger it is time to step back
and make it your friend.
The chip thing is not now technically possible and likely won't be for
some time. It would have to tie into too many different nerves in the
body and the brain to be of any value to a controlling authority.>>>

I would advise you to read the David Icke site at www.davidicke.org from
the UK and see what he says before you start flinging your comments
about.
The chip thing is very much HERE and my cats have them implanted in
their
shoulders. One got lost and a week later I got a call from the Humane
Society to say they had found her and she was identified mine from her
implant. Such implants are being used on people.. you can believe it.
I
know of people who have had them removed. Whitley Streiber has many
documented cases of this in his book and a specialist in this very field
who has removed many of them from lots of people whom the government
would
like to keep tabs on.
You can live in denial if you choose, but I know that such things exist
and are being used malefically to control people.
Wish I didn't. Ruth
***

In this series of posts we've been talking about two different kinds of
chips, one real and one very not real, and one very not real plot.

There are chips here and now in the US and many other countries that one
does have put under the skin of one's dog or cat. This chip has awsome
power. It prevents the pet from being used in a lab experiment and can
get it returned if found and turned over to a properly equiped animal
shelter. That's it. But if you love your pet as I love my dogs that is
wonderful power indeed.

The chip provides identification only. You can't do a reading to find
the location of the lost creature from some remote location, you can't
make the animal do anything. One can hold an animal close to a
"proximity reader" (meaning it reads when it is in proximity too what it
is reading) and some bits and bytes are read. These are compared in a
central database, usually by calling in on the standard phone lines, and
suddenly John Doe of 101 Main Street in Hometown USA, UK or wherever,
gets a call that Rover or Fluffy is at the XYZ animal shelter.

Yes, that is possible. It is an eletronic ID tag, with information like
most of us have been putting on our pet's collars for years. It is
possible to add information, such as medical alergies etc. but if that
is done it is always from the central database where old John registered
Rover not from the chip itself.

These are smaller versions of proximity badges that have been worn by
workers in some plants for some time. These badges are more "powerful"
and can register when you enter a room. The purpose is seldom for
security as much as for personel accountability in case of an accident
such as an explosion. That way if an area had registered no people
rescue personel would not be put at risk going into that area to check.
Some secure office buildings use the same sort of badges to make it
easier for their workers to get in and out. They just have to pass
within three feet of a reader and the badge pinned to their shirt will
be read and the door they are approaching will be unlocked, if they have
access to that area. (All of these I've seen have been in buildings in
bad neighborhoods and you want those workers inside and safe as soon as
possible).

These chips can't do anything else! Period!

As far as in people: They would be a good thing for otherwise healthy
people with dementia in large population areas. So if they wander off
and get found by the police or someone they can be identified faster.
 
But believe the Freemasons don't care about these chips. OK, except the
ones that love their pets or are vets that sell and implant them or
maybe a Mason who works in a plant where they are made and wants to keep
his job. Otherwise all the websites and books in the world prove just
one thing, freedom exists, you can write or say anything, no matter how
crazy, and you will be allowed to get away with it.

There is no plot to implant these in people. People don't come into your
house and do it in your sleep. It just doesn't happen. X-Files is TV
show it is not real life.

Namaste,

Joe

P.S. I am not dodging your Mr. Icke. My server says it can't find any
location "www.davidicke.org" on the web, so I couldn't read his work.

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Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 19:10:49 EST
From: LilEli <LilEliATnospamaol.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Thirty three among other things...
Message-ID: <8c7845f7.3491d993ATnospamaol.com>

Dear list...

I don't remember who exactly was interested in the age of 33, I
believe a few were. So I thought I'd drop a note on something I
read recently which may be of interest to you.

Awhile back I picked up Yvonne Kason's book "A Farther Shore".
It was the first resource recommended to me when I discovered
the word kundalini. But for some reason, until now, I haven't picked
it up to read it. Funny, the author comes at kundalini from her own
near death experience. For me, I have never quite figured out
exactly when kundalini came to me (within me?), though almost
dying during childbirth seems to be a possibility. I used to
waste much time trying to figure out the why, the when, and the
what now? But in truth, that's like trying to figure out which came
first...the chicken or the egg. Doesn't really matter does it?

For those of you pondering the age of 33, I recommend this book.
I was suprised how many personal experiences of different people
are shared, and that most of these people seem to be right around
the age of 33 when they had spiritual transformational experiences,
near death experiences, and kundalini awakening. This book is a
keeper in my opinion!

Blessings to all....

Lisa
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 17:55:58 -0800
From: Kurt Keutzer <keutzerATnospamsynopsys.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: IC Implants
Message-Id: <3.0.32.19971212175556.00f507a4ATnospampcpo-1>
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I'm not sure that this is right on track for the list but ...

Blizzard asks:
>>I was wondering if anyone would know about an information device
>>that will be implanted in the skin of the human body in the
>>future.There has been some information from UFO,NewAge,and Biblical
>>accounts on this.Is there anything positive on this or the typical
>>negativity.
Joe Miller says:
[comments regarding snorting deleted]
>The chip thing is not now technically possible and likely won't be for
>some time. It would have to tie into too many different nerves in the
>body and the brain to be of any value to a controlling authority.>>>

Ruth says:
>I would advise you to read the David Icke site at www.davidicke.org from
>the UK and see what he says before you start flinging your comments about.

Kurt: Tried to - my server says that hostname is unknown.
I did find: http://www.interart.net/books/books/david_icke.html

Ruth continues:
>The chip thing is very much HERE and my cats have them implanted in their
>shoulders. One got lost and a week later I got a call from the Humane
>Society to say they had found her and she was identified mine from her
>implant. Such implants are being used on people.. you can believe it.

Kurt says: The only ones I can think of are those used to administer
medicines - or those used as simple identification.

Ruth continues:
>know of people who have had them removed. Whitley Streiber has many
>documented cases of this in his book and a specialist in this very field
>who has removed many of them from lots of people whom the government would
>like to keep tabs on.

Kurt suggests: check out:
http://www.hightimes.com/hightimes/~hightimes/ht/mag/958/streibe.html

Ruth continues:
>You can live in denial if you choose, but I know that such things exist
>and are being used malefically to control people.
>Wish I didn't. Ruth
>*****
>

I would encourage folks to look at:
http://www.medtronic.com/
this gives you a good idea of what the state-of-the-art in implantable
integrated circuits is. Then you can decide our current level of peril.

Sorry Ruth, but if anything much more sophisticated is going on in the
government then that would presume a more sophisticated understanding of
neurobiology than anyone publishing academic research has and a more
sophisticated IC fabrication capability than anyone in industry (e.g.
Intel) has - that just doesn't seem likely to me.

That's not to say that there isn't anything going on. There are those who
would like to implant devices in the contemporary ``warfighter'' (that's
means soldier for most of us) so that he gets a little boost of adrenaline
(or whatever) when he needs one - but this is about as sinister a thing as
I am aware of.

Of course if aliens have advanced spacecraft they might have advanced IC
technology ...

Kind Regards,
Kurt
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 21:15:03 -0500
From: acarre <acarreATnospamconcentric.net>
To: Kurt Keutzer <keutzerATnospamsynopsys.com>,
 "Mailing list (Kundalini)" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: HRTZEN: Re: Enlightenment & Piercing Knots.
Message-ID: <3491EFA5.9B61E49DATnospamconcentric.net>

Hi kurt, and all

You said:

> I wonder if any of you could clarify a couple
> things for me. The first is
> simply a reference. I have read a few writings
> of Aurobindo, each giving
> some inkling of his experience of the descent of
> the Divine but I never
> found one that really went into depth. Some were
> simply assemblages of
> letters to his students. Can you recommend a
> reference here?

For the real work of the descend of the divine,
starting a transmuting process in the physical
body at cells level. I can only recommend Mother
(of Shri Aurobindo Ashram) Agenda, where she
relates her experiences about "cellular yoga" and
the necessary descent of the Divine associated
with it. My edition in french make 12 volumes...

It's a day to day work and struggle, for as you
"open" the ego/inertia of the cells to the divine,
they also become more sensible to negatives
energies still "floating" from the deep
unconscious fear of the human specie. As an
example, Mother had to fight numerous cancer,
etc., that small perturbation could cause while
opening the cells "ego". Her grave, still as a
line up of people, who just want do touch and get
a peace of "cellular energy" it still does
radiate.

I haven't found yet any well structured "theory"
relating to the descent of the divine at such
level. It's experimental, and dangerous to push it
to much to fast, without the inner peace and
"surrounding peace" for such an attempt. Mother
did it, before the time had come, to prove to
humanity that it was possible, and to show a bit
what was awaiting the human race before soon.

This descent work is a day to day thing, and gets
easier and more natural to do as the level of
"light" in the human race increases.

I would also be interested in any information
regarding this descent of the divine, from any
culture, science, religion, etc.

I would also be interested on any reference on
what i can call the "sucking effect" on the divine
descent, that comes when a true energy link
between a group or couple of individual starts.
And that should really start when enough of the
humanity focus on the same idea/concept long
enough at the same time for it to sustain itself.
A bit like the Golf War paranoia effect, or the
death of Lady Diana and Mother Theresa, had un a
part of humanity for a while.

Thank you.

Love

Antoine

Shri aurobindo once said (quoting from memory) "If
the physical ego would open to let the divine in
in a day, it would simply explode, for the ego not
flexible enough yet to open"

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