1997/12/07 13:51
kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #802
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 97 : Issue 802
Today's Topics:
Re: Bondage by Karma or Freedom by C [ "Rick Puravs" <ric51ATnospamgeorge.lhi.net ]
Re: Soul Mates [ freda <fredaATnospamblarg.net> ]
the Shower [ Ruth Trimble <trimbleATnospamhawaii.edu> ]
Thirty Three [ Ruth Trimble <trimbleATnospamhawaii.edu> ]
Re: Soul Mates [ M <chooseagainATnospamthegrid.net> ]
Re: Soul Mates [ freda <fredaATnospamblarg.net> ]
Re: Bondage by Karma or Freedom by C [ sassiATnospamworldnet.att.net (The Lesser ]
Kundalini Yoga Centers [ tgxxxATnospamjuno.com (tg langston) ]
Bondage by Karma or Freedom by Chris [ tgxxxATnospamjuno.com (tg langston) ]
The Next Generation [ Ruth Trimble <trimbleATnospamhawaii.edu> ]
AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Cen [ Hillary Dumad <DruoutATnospamaol.com> ]
Re: Bondage by Karma or Freedom by C [ Meadowart <MeadowartATnospamaol.com> ]
Depressed Soul [ veroungerATnospamearthlink.net (by way of ]
Re: About reincarnation [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistres ]
Date: Sun, 7 Dec 1997 12:03:35 -0500
From: "Rick Puravs" <ric51ATnospamgeorge.lhi.net>
To: <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Bondage by Karma or Freedom by Christ?
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First let me say that i enjoy reading the opinions of the wide diversity of beliefs that are represented on this list. I look with humour upon postings
that imply that this person, or that person, is a "virus" sent to infect this list.
I think, for the most part, those K-awakened ones here have developed,
or are developing, powers of discrimination so as to be able to seperate
the wheat from the chaff, so to speak. Dealing with a wide diversity of
opinions can only help with the development of this process.
>DonBBenson wrote.......
What do you think - those of you who believe in evolution, reincarnation,
karma, and astrology - about Empress Theodora? Must she work on herself for
many lifetimes to lift herself above the primordial slime, violent impulses,
and sexual cravings of her evolutionary origins? Is the crucifixion, death,
burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ not sufficient to set her free from
death and torment, by the love of God through faith?
The much hated apostle Paul wrote to the Christians in Corinth (that port city
filled with goddesses and temple prostitutes): <<Do you not know that the
unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither
fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor catamites, nor sodomites, nor
theives, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will
inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you. But you were washed,
but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus
and by the Spirit of our God.>>
.......hmmm.......well, i think forgiveness could come quite easy for her role as
a prostitute.....but if she felt the need to kill 500 people to attempt to hide the
fact, then it does not appear to me that she felt that she had been set free from her past by the blood of Jesus Christ.......and yes, i think she'll have to
slog many a mile through lots of lifetimes to work that off......there are ways,
from what i understand, to neutralize such karma.....though the negativity of
her actions would have their own volition.....and it would probably be a few
millenia before she landed in fortunate enough circumstances for this to be
brought about......but who are we to judge, or even speculate, on the path of
Empress Theodora? Whatever she did, in the fullness (or emptiness) of the
universe, play the creator or the destroyer, in this dance it will be all worked
out (though probably not without a lot of "discomfort" for Theodora)....so is this just another way of "being set free from death and torment, by the love of
God"?
A little background here......i was raised a Lutheran, in an ethnic Latvian church in Saginaw, Michigan....the services were in Latvian, which i understand well. Did not much care for it, but agreed to keep going until i
was confirmed. The day of my confirmation was the last time i have ever been in that church......which was about a month before my 16th birthday.
I was always very interested in spiritual stuff, but never found it in that church.
I then went through a wide variety of traditions.......eastern, occult, pagan, etc
.....as i continued to search for what i could recognize as the truth.....eventually, and i think it was the need for fellowship, more than anything else, i was led back into the Christian traditions......in the early 1980's i went through many churches and made a thorough study of the Bible.....i was baptised for a 2nd time in a Baptist church, but left because of
the pro-Reagan, anti-abortion politics there......i studied with the Mormons, but could not ignore my conclusion that the Book of Mormon was not what i
would consider an inspired sacred scripture, so i left there.....i went the
charismatic route, Assembly of God, and a large independent church.....then
by my study of the Bible i ended up in the Church of God-Seventh Day, which
from a fundamentalist textual point of view, seemed to me to be the most
correct. I didn't really find what i was looking for, though certainly there were
many moving experiences along the way.....it was actual experience of the
truth that i wanted. I would also come up with problems with the fundamentalist approach as a whole, their approach was very selective, and
there was much they could not address. Speaking of "viruses" as a metaphor, my Bible studies led me increasingly to the belief that Paul was a
"virus" sent to corrupt the true teachings of Jesus, and to distort the growth of
the church, so that the church itself, under the rule of the Popes, became the
Beast, so to speak. While i believe many sections of the Bible are divinely inspired, i have a problem with the work as a whole, as it is constitued today.
I also believe that the true meaning of much of it is not easily accesible without a knowledge of the original languages it was written in, and some
knowledge of the Kabbalah. As i was looking more for personal experience
of the divine, i was out of there, this time for good. I have found that Buddhism
and Yoga (Hinduism/Vedic), esp Tibetan and Tantra, with its Shamanistic
residues, offer me what i need, and am now working in those areas.
Light and Love,
Rick
Date: Sun, 07 Dec 1997 09:17:26 -0800
From: freda <fredaATnospamblarg.net>
To: M <chooseagainATnospamthegrid.net>
CC: Ruth Trimble <trimbleATnospamhawaii.edu>, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com,
veroungerATnospamearthlink.net
Subject: Re: Soul Mates
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M., you respond:
>Mothers and daughters can and should have a bit different dynamic than
teachers and students.
I agree, to some degree. I have four daugters. Age 25, 23, 20 and 19.
They have seen the same situations which "mother" was in, yet none of
them have the same perspective of them, I often put in my two cents
worth, however, I have found that they are more capable than I gave
them credit for. As parents, our final test is when we let them go ~
to create for themselves. Make their own mistakes. Work out "their"
relationships. Love them. Love them. Love them. Then love them some
more. It is not for me to approve of my grown childrens choices. How can
I know what is best for them? Once grown, their decisions, or their
relationships are THEIRS and they must choose their path for themselves
and do their own work.
Having made my mistakes, does not make me an expert on theirs. They are
unique. As are their lives. And I am learning more from them than I
could have ever taught.
I am a daughter myself. I resented my parents for assuming they knew
best, and although I found myself following their advice I now wonder
how things may have been better had I followed my own.
IMHO, a mother IS the most influential teacher that a child has, (son
or daugher), but the lessons are the childs, as much as we mothers think
we know best, we cannot steal away the lessons which belong to our
children.
Freda ~ BE-IS-AM
http://www.blarg.net/~freda/01rg/hm/frhm.htm
ICQ # 4323543
Date: Sun, 7 Dec 1997 07:38:37 -1000
From: Ruth Trimble <trimbleATnospamhawaii.edu>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: the Shower
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Hi Lisa or Sharon said:
Glad I'm not alone on the shower thing! I receive much clarity in the
shower.
I always have. It is an awesome refuge for my soul to stand in the water
and think without parameters.
>>>
Have any of you ever dissolved into the water under the shower?
That was one of my first K. experiences...wow...merging with water!
WildATnospam$*
Ruth
*****
Date: Sun, 7 Dec 1997 08:06:08 -1000
From: Ruth Trimble <trimbleATnospamhawaii.edu>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Thirty Three
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Hi Tom:
You say: >>Jesus was
also 33 when he died. (Or was it when he started his ministry?) "
One day soon after I got shaktipat from Muktananda I went to visit one of
his ashrams--in Santa Monica. We were all sitting around on a wet day
eating our soup and bread lunch about 50 people and someone went around
and asked.."How old were you when you got shaktipat?" The answer in all
the women came back 33... in the men it varied! We were all stunned to
realize that this was Jesus' age (supposedly) at the crucifix. If one
studies Rudolph Steiner (a much ignored Western guru) one can trace the
stages of the soul's entry into the body. This is in the groups of seven
years.. .and with each seven comes another sheath to cover the subtle
bodies - if I can remember... up to age 7 - physical (end of first teeth-
marks end of past life karma clearance)
up to age 14 - mental (up to puberty)
up to age 21 - emotional (age of maturation)
up to age 28 - ?? etheric (not sure after this....I hope others
can fill it in... )
AND so forth... I hope someone can fill in the missing data.
It is hard to look this up in Steiner since he is very hard to read
having been translated from Austrian; I got this understanding through
my daughter's teacher at Waldorf schools.
Joseph Chilton Pearce does a lot of analysis of the first 14 years in his
book "Magical Child Matures". And he also has a lot to say about
Kundalini too. But he does not go much past puberty in this book.
What I feel is that at 33 we reach a certain stage of the soul where
such awakening is possible.. like a portal perhaps. I have noticed
in a person I know that at 33 she suffered a major health problem and in
my opinion, closed this portal preferring to NOT awaken. Now it is 20
years later, and she clearly has remained unawakened. I guess we all have
choice.
I would be interested in any one else'sreflections on the age 33.
Ruth
*****
Date: Sun, 7 Dec 1997 10:07:27 -0800 (PST)
From: M <chooseagainATnospamthegrid.net>
To: fredaATnospamblarg.net
Cc: Ruth Trimble <trimbleATnospamhawaii.edu>, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Soul Mates
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At 09:17 AM 12/7/97 -0800, freda wrote:
>I am a daughter myself. I resented my parents for assuming they knew
>best, and although I found myself following their advice I now wonder
>how things may have been better had I followed my own.
It was an illusion you chose. Let it go. You'll feel better...I promise!
> IMHO, a mother IS the most influential teacher that a child has, (son
>or daugher), but the lessons are the childs, as much as we mothers think
>we know best, we cannot steal away the lessons which belong to our
>children.
Who said we should?
M
Date: Sun, 07 Dec 1997 10:33:05 -0800
From: freda <fredaATnospamblarg.net>
To: M <chooseagainATnospamthegrid.net>
CC: Ruth Trimble <trimbleATnospamhawaii.edu>, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Soul Mates
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M.
freda here:
I do not think you understood my post to Ruth.
I don't have anything to let go. Wondering how things may have been
better..... is resolved. I now listen to myself. And I try to pass this
on to my children, although I do fail at this sometimes and want to tell
them "what is best"
My point is "You can handle it." IS sometimes the best support we can
give our adult children, or ourselves or anyone for that matter, (if we
feel we are even qualified to advise)
--
Freda ~ BE-IS-AM
http://www.blarg.net/~freda/01rg/hm/frhm.htm
ICQ # 4323543
Date: Sun, 07 Dec 1997 18:42:26 GMT
From: sassiATnospamworldnet.att.net (The Lesser Half)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Bondage by Karma or Freedom by Christ?
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I was brought up as a Roman Catholic until I got out at 12. For 30
years I laughed at and ridiculed organized religion while in my heart
jealousy raged at those that have something to believe.
Now, after several wonderful experiences ( awakening ? ) I am at peace
with myself. I found my God/dess and it is mankind. I am finally able
to see that although we may use different labels and adhere to
different philosophies we are all on the same path.
My intellect will not let me accept the idea of a man-made God or
Religion, but I can accept and rejoice in other's and their faith.
Jack
Date: Sun, 7 Dec 1997 13:48:17 -0500
From: tgxxxATnospamjuno.com (tg langston)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Kundalini Yoga Centers
Message-ID: <19971207.142219.3750.7.tgxxxATnospamjuno.com>
Hi All...
Not sure if this url has been passed on to the list, but in case it
hasn't, here is the International Directory of Kundalini Yoga Centers
website that a friend passed on to me (thanks Dee!)
http://www.sikhnet.com/IKYTA
xxxtg
"Atheism is a non-prophet organization"
http://members.aol.com/Teeegeee/tgsplace.html <~~~~~~ on the web now!
Date: Sun, 7 Dec 1997 14:20:59 -0500
From: tgxxxATnospamjuno.com (tg langston)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Bondage by Karma or Freedom by Christ
Message-ID: <19971207.142219.3750.11.tgxxxATnospamjuno.com>
Don wrote:
<< But I'll being praying for you all. >>
There is something about Don saying this that didn't sit right with me.
Like we need saving or something. Opposite of what he had written in the
same letter:
<<Is the crucifixion, death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ not
sufficient to set her free from death and torment, by the love of God
through faith?>>
Yes it is! In an instant, all karmic krap can be lifted through this. I
don't believe there is one of us here that does not believe this. We
wouldn't be on this path if we didn't believe, know and understand the
light at the end of the tunnel (the resurrection).
Which I see as saying, we have already been saved by the love of God
through faith. Faith.... good word. I don't think there is a person on
this forum that doesn't live by the love of God through faith and trust.
I am guessing that you are praying for us to 'see the light' as you see
it, to know and understand what it is you know and understand.
Ultimately, prayers are to bring peace to the asker. Sooo in that light,
your prayers are welcome!
<< most of the members have embraced evolution, reincarnation, karma, and
astrology without question.>>
I have to disagree here. I see each of us as open-minded enough to look
at these and transcend each and every one of these thoughts as idols.
Maybe in the past we used these as 'idolaters' (placing our trust and
faith in these things), but have come to realize that none of these are
above faith and trust in God. These ideas are merely tools that some of
us use. Personally, as a semi-quasi astrologer, I place no faith in
astrology other than to be the tool for healing and love.... I place my
faith in God. A good doctor would not place his faith in his scapels,
but in his own abilities for God to use to heal the patient via his
hands.
One thing I love about this group here is the open-mindness that
resonates. A Course in Miracles states that open-mindness was one of the
last things that Jesus learned while here on earth.
<<My wife just reminded me it's time to get ready to go teach a Sunday
school class and attend worship, and then we are meeting at lunch to plan
a Christian coffee house for the youth of Rockingham, so I will close
now. >>
You are doing good work for the Lord it is obvious. Most of us feel here
though, that we do not need to tell anyone of our 'good works' - we just
do it. If I feel a need to remind you of something, it is because I
think you will forget. So let me reassure you, Don, that we won't forget
you are a good person. We know you are already saved. No need to remind
us.
In Love of Christ, the resurrection and the light,
xxxtg
"Genius or Idiot?"
You're a genius if you fly a kite during a thunderstorm, and discover
that
lighting is electricity--but you're an idiot if you fly a kite during the
thunderstorm, and discover that lighting can kill you.
http://members.aol.com/Teeegeee/tgsplace.html <~~~~~~ on the web now!
Date: Sun, 7 Dec 1997 09:21:48 -1000
From: Ruth Trimble <trimbleATnospamhawaii.edu>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
cc: d242kaosATnospamget.net
Subject: The Next Generation
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Hi Kirk and List
you say: >>>> By the time he is my age,
>> he'll probably be a billionaire (or a Stephen Hawking, or a Picasso...
>> Maybe >> DaVinci is our best model for that sort of thing?)!
You have also noticed how precocious your children are. Mine is now 22
and I think she was part of a whole slew of souls that came in to brighten
up this planet. I also do not think we can even imagine what is the
highest and best scenario for them.. we cannot even conceive of it...so
don't try is my advice.. Just trust they know why they are here and let
them be.. the wonderful beings they already are. I have heard
kindergarten teachers sayu that the new kids are DIFFERENT. Instead of
telling kids "Line up for lunch" as they used to with the 70's/80's
kids.. they have to say "We have to get 30 people to eat lunch in an
orderly manner.. go to it!" And the kids organize themselves!$%%
Who are these kids?
**** Some of you may want to tune out here
since it is not just about reincarnation I am referring to here, but the
fact that we live on many dimensions...and that Earth right now is a sort
of dimensional stew where an experiment is about to take place.**
I believe the K. has a huge amount
to do with that the star seed babies coming here.. that it is because our
planet is becoming awake that we have been given this kundalini...to
assist her.I also believe and see evidence of the fact that more and more
souls are coming here lighter and more aware than my generation.. I was
the 60's lot..and how we affected this planet! We were the pioneers of a
huge change in paradigms that has taken place. Can you see how the 50's
were so unlike the decades that followed? We were headed down a certain
course with the the bomb... and I think the message went out to the
cosmos.."Light reinforcements needed on Planet Earth or they are headed
into oblivion."
I know people who were growing up then who had to go into bomb shelters
and whose parents built fall out shelters in the back yard . Imagine what
this did for the psyche in the 50's. So the 60's generation experimented
with consciousness...said NO to war...found the harmonies of the spheres
in music...the East came West etc. a lot happened. We were a light
infusion. It has been going on ever since. Much of my validation for what
I see comes from Babara Hand Clow.. who says that any child born since
1989 is 80% sure to be a STAR SEED. That means.. they are seeded here
from stars to help create a better future for our planet than the one that
loomed large and ugly in 1945 when we bombed Hiroshima and Nagasaki. If
we kept on that track, we would have ended up like Mars...a fall out dump!
So Kirk.. your kid is here to infuse light into the subtle energies of the
planet which is ascending.. and thanks to these little souls of light, so
is everyone on the planet. It may be bumpy... so a lot of souls are opting
out of the experience.. and getting their cancers and accidents so they do
not have to experience all this. Personally I think it is a huge adventure
and just trust I can be around to see and experience it... for it is all
about grace and love and God. I am sure your child and all the other
children feel the same about being here... it is a Fun Fair...helter
skelter.. but we all know we have to go home one day...!
Love, Ruth
*****
Date: Sun, 7 Dec 1997 09:50:20 -1000 (HST)
From: Hillary Dumad <DruoutATnospamaol.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center
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Hi everyone. I've been waking up, often several times a night, with blissful/sexual/mystical waves and explosions in brain/body since Sept 96 after getting back into Hatha Yoga exercises. The mystical includes the idea of going through "lotus door" and entering "Satori" (of which I remember nothing!)
I grew up in an athiest/agnostic household and have never meditated. Have read Gopi Krishna, Lee Sannella, Krishnamurti (his Notebook contains wonderful descriptions of K rushes), Maharshi's Talks, et., as well as the wonderfully helpful Shared Transformation newsletter, trying to get a handle on this. Have kept daily journal since beginning of which some is noted in last issue (oct) of ST.
My husband is bewildered.
I wonder where it's going. Why me? Am learning alot from all of you. Thanks.
Hillary
P.S. How many of us are out there? Do you think its becoming much more common? Perhaps a part of the human brain is preprogrammed with K to keep us from fearing death.
Date: Sun, 7 Dec 1997 14:47:46 EST
From: Meadowart <MeadowartATnospamaol.com>
To: sassiATnospamWorldnet.ATT.Net, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Bondage by Karma or Freedom by Christ?
Message-ID: <3ff51473.348afd65ATnospamaol.com>
Let's hear it for unity in diversity. To turn the tide a bit, my experience
has been that it is quite difficult to explore the mystical side of my
spirituality in traditional religious settings.
Like many others, I've found that yogis are far more accepting of the
visionary aspects of the path than priests and preachers. What have others
experienced?
Date: Sun, 07 Dec 1997 01:49:26
From: veroungerATnospamearthlink.net (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Depressed Soul
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I wanted to thank each one of you for your words of comfort in reference to
the loss of my soulmate.
They deeply touched my heart, and helped me face tomorrow.
It is always nice to know that people Do CARE.
I feel better, thank you.
With Love,
Veronique, the Depressed Soul
Date: Sun, 07 Dec 1997 12:55:42
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: DonBBenson <DonBBensonATnospamaol.com>
Cc: rgvgATnospamhotmail.com, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, reasonsATnospamreasons.org
Subject: Re: About reincarnation
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>In a message dated 97-12-06 00:18:37 EST, mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com writes:
> Time and space do not really exist beyond our perceptions: so there really
> is no
> "past" or "future", on a soul level, no "here" or "there", "then" or
> "later"... infinity is in the Now >>
At 10:10 06/12/97 EST, DonBBenson wrote:
>Dear Ms. Serpent:
>
>Recent developments in theoretical physics and mathematical string theory
>confirm your perception.
Thankyou for this. I have heard of it, but as you say, my understanding
of physics is preceptual, rather than scholastic, so I could not have
explained it so eloquently in scientific terms.
Getting it pereptually, experientially, came after months of the normal
energy tingle in my feet increasing until they really hurt, then a month of
trancendent magical K-flaring dimension trips that had folks that do not
know me well concerned for my sanity.. followed by a month long crash
accompanied by my first cold in many years.
> For most of this century, scientists have been
>struggling with apparent contradictions between General Relativity Theory and
>Quantum Mechanics. A few years ago, they discovered that in TEN
DIMENSIONS it
>all fits together and works perfectly -- three dimensions of time and seven
>dimensions of space.
Yes indeedy..when I first heard of the superstring theroy, I thought
immediately of the mystical Huna concept of Aka cords, and formulated my
own General Theroy of Everything.. superstrings and Aka cords are the same
thing, and Love is the mysterious missing energy that is not limited by
conventional rules of physics, such as the speed of light. Studies on the
power of prayer have shown that prayer -> love has a measureable effect.
Love -> attraction-> gravity..
I have persuaded a scientist friend of mine to work with me and prepare a
paper for the Nobel Prize committee. "What the Heck?" he said.."They can
only laugh". He is very unconventional, and retiring anyways, and Goddess
K. has begun to have her way with his analytical scientist's mind.. and
they nominated Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi last year..
Something might just come of it, who knows?? I recognize this fella from
a very unusual prophetic-feeling dream I had when I was 9 years old. I am
certain I shamanic travelled into the body of a future self.. and spent
time wandering in a mansion in a formal, rather medieval gown, and spent
some time in a ballroom filled with strange equiptment talking to an
outrageously muscular middle aged man, slightly shorter than myself, more
charming than anyone I had ever seen outside a medieval romance
novel..wearing only chains and large pierced nipple rings, a leather
g-string, white socks, and shoes. My 9 year old self at first presumed he
must be an artist's model, since he was nearly naked.. perhaps for a roman
painting? Then he stated talking most enthusiastically about how much he
was looking forward to warming up for a bullwhipping scene, and I decided
he must be an actor...?? I went off to explore other parts of the mansion,
came back into the room a bit later, discovered that what I thought to be
gy equiptment wasn't and they were not kidding about the bullwhipping and
my Adult self was watching with some appreciation.. my 9 year old self
freaked out and created a flood to end the dream.. which went into repeat
anyways, without the flood.
Now this man is a friend, and I have spoken with him, when he is dressed
exactly like that, many times. But the mansion is yet to be..
> It turns out that God created the heavens and the earth
>in ten dimensions, but at present the other six dimensions are "collapsed" so
>we walk around in just four dimensions - three dimensions of space (height,
>width, and depth) and one dimension of time (linear, historical time).
It is in the arrogance of science, to think that parts of Creation might
be "collapsed", simply because they cannot percieve them.
They are not collapsed.. we can visit them. They are populated.
> But in
>three dimensions of time - which we can experience in heightened K
>consciousness - the entire 10-20 billion years of astrophysical history and
>the entire 6171 years of human history since Adam and Eve can be seen Right
>Now.
Well, I would use a much wider scope .. but yes, everything that ever was
and ever will be exists in the now, and when we tune into the infinite
manifestations of the One across time and space, we join with it in
experience, and those experiences of the past, (or of the other
dimensions,) become a part of our life. Our past-> life..
They live again in us.. re-incarnation. We percieve these
new/old/timeless parts of the Self as coming from the past.. and they are
aspects of the One Self has taken on in another "time".. that return to
become part of our life experience.. in the power of the Now, we can Be
Anything and Anyone we choose.
In the Now, we have never left Eden, In the Now, Armageddon is already
over, and we are already back in paradise with Creator again.
>
Also, Hugh Ross
>has a gorgeous, award winning website
><<http://www.reasons.org>>.
Here's a tip:
If you put two spaces on either side of the URL, like this:
><< http://www.reasons.org >>
it becomes clickable.
Blessings, Mystress.
>
>Love and peace, Don
>
>
>
Mystress Angelique Serpent,
Dominant Experiential Facilitator.
Website= http://www.domin8rex.com/serpent
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