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 1997/12/03  07:15 kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #785
 
 
 
kundalini-l-d Digest				Volume 97 : Issue 785
 
Today's Topics:Re: Curiosity and more curiosity      [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistres ]
 Re: Curiosity and more curiosity      [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistres ]
 Kundalini Meditation                  [ TDVW36AATnospamprodigy.com ( THOMAS SMITH) ]
 Re: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource  [ Pam Myers <pmyersATnospammail.coin.missour ]
 Re: 2nd chakra--Negative not necessa  [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistres ]
 pompous manifesto:Sex and intelligen  [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistres ]
 Untamed Powers (Off Subject)          [ "Duncan, Mark" <duncanmATnospamemh22.eusti ]
 Date: Wed, 03 Dec 1997 02:00:40
 From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>
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>Debora A. Orf wrote:>>
 >hmmmmm
 >
 >> without getting too far into things that are secrets, is someone able to
 >> answer in a general way?
 
>At 16:52 02/12/97 -0600, Athena wrote:>
 >Secrets ??? is this list about secrets ???
 No.. it is about sharing ideas about things that used to be secret.. some
 folks here are studying "secret" stuff, but for every one of those, there
 are ten more who will fill you in.
 >
 >I just suscribed today, and am wondering if I am on the right list....
 >
 >I have NOT studied Eastern mystecism, beyond a few popular books...
 I haven't much, either, and I'm the list Mystress.. Welcome..
 No worries, right now the threads have wandered to eastern esoterica, but
 it will wander back to plain english again.. we'll be discusing how to
 prevent K. fired computer meltdowns and other practical stuff..
 I would suggest that you take a stroll over to the K.list archives, and
 do a search of any topics that interest you.. the correct address for the
 archives at Reference.com is below, in my sig.
 Start with a general subject of Kundalini, then refine it as you find
 threads and authors that interest you. Months of reading.. many perspectives.
 Simply being on the list will evolve you quicker tho.. the email of many
 folks carries their K-fire.. Shaktizap online.
 
>**>>From a western mysical perspective, as I understand it, it is the
 >life-force/spirit-essence of our beingness... part of is is represented
 >by the chi < the part that keeps ya alive and going > the rest is the
 >*coiled serpent* at the base of your spine... which peacefully sleeps,
 >until awakened.
 
  Basically correct. If you like, I have a longer description of K. on mywebsite..
 http://www.domin8rex.com/serpent/kundalin.htm
 
  There is some stuff of K. sexuality there, also.. I have not been postingmuch of late. It is considered an adult site, tho that is a PG document.
 >
 >It can be awakened *accidentally* as in *playing* < my word for when
 >neither one knows what they're doing, but flying by the seat of their
 >pants >.. with others, < as in energy exchanges , usually with the
 >opposite sex > ... the *feeling* is not unlike an intense spiritual
 >orgasm....
 Yup, I keep getting K.A. happening in my BDSM sessions. I have started
 seeking a spirutally oriented clientele, so they will have some framework
 for the event, if it ensues.. and it does more often than not.. I am very
 contagious.
 >****
 >
 >Since I am not schooled in the Eastern traditions, does that mean I have
 >no *kundilini * ???
 >
 >.... that it will not awaken...
 >
 >.... that I cannot attain Enlightenment ???
 Every human has kundalini, awake or sleeping.
 We use the sanskrit terms for reference, simply because they are the most
 elegant systems of explanations for the progress and effects. However, many
 of those using the eastern terms are actually christains or jewish..or
 pagan like myself.  In christian terms, it is considered "the descent of
 the Holy Spirit", but there is not the same amount of scholarship
 dissecting it's effects and levels, for our greater understanding.
 Kundalini is the basis of All religions. Most folks refer to it as
 "awakening" rather than K. awakening. Do a search on "Spiritual awakening",
 and you'll turn up tons 'o stuff.
 >
 >Would someone kindly point me to a list where I can learn more about
 >this ??? That refer to books written about this subject by people that
 >are at least pronouncable to the western toungue ???
 Well, there are plenty of lists addressing the various phenomena around
 awakening.. from channeling to UFO abductions. I am on or have been on
 several of them.. but this one provides clearer info than the others,
 partly because even tho we have a wide variety of cultures and beliefs
 among the memebers, we have at least the common framework of Kundalini to
 describe our experiences.
 Go to www.spiritweb.org to see some others... and I forwarded something
 from Lightwork-l today.
 The thing is, Goddess is controlling your path and education, snd She has
 brought you here.. wherever you go, there you are.. Blessings, Mystress.
 Date: Wed, 03 Dec 1997 02:24:16
 From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>
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   Whoops!At 02:00 03/12/97, Mystress Angelique Serpent wrote:
 If you like, I have a longer description of K. on my
 >website..
 *****  Sorry that address shoulda been:
 >  http://www.domin8rex.com/serpent/K.htm
 >
 >  There is some stuff of K. sexuality there, also.. I have not been posting
 >much of late. It is considered an adult site, tho that is a PG document.
 
  I was a bit confused, I have been working on updating the Kundaliniwebsite, and I got my files mixed.
 I have recently also posted my "grounding excercise" on my website, and
 had one K.A. happen to someone from doing it online already.. take a look,
 when you have some time for a meditation.. nothing fancy, but it seems
 effective.
 
   http://www.domin8rex.com/serpent/ground.htm  
 
  Blessings, Mystress.Date: Wed,  3 Dec 1997 05:47:54, -0500
 From: TDVW36AATnospamprodigy.com ( THOMAS   SMITH)
 To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
 Subject: Kundalini Meditation
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My favorite is the classic bhutta shuddhi. It takes awhile to write it out,
 so just tell me if you're familiar with it, and if not, I'll write it
 all
 down. It is using breathwork, colors, and the bija mantras for each
 chakra,
 working your way up to clear the system and activate the purification
 of
 kundalini, and then lowering the energy again.
 Deb
 =================
 
Yes please, thank you Deb......
 
namaste'Tom
 Date: Thu, 03 Jan 1980 06:13:36 -0600
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Hi,
 
This is very similar to what people experience after an attunementto Reiki. (A process that opens the crown, heart, and hand chakras to enable
 one to channel healing energy.) See my web site in the sig file below for more
 info on Reiki if you are not familiar with it. Sometimes people receive these
 attuenments spontaneously without the aid of a Master--but that is not
 common .
 
Pam :)
 
At 05:17 PM 12/2/97 -1000, you wrote:
 >I'm not sure it was the big "K".
 >Please enlighten me.
 >A warm glow that permeated my body from the center of me, out.
 >the feelings experienced were, a "rage-ing peace", a love and security
 like I would imagine an
 >infant feels at it's mothers breast. I felt as if I were in two worlds,
 pinned to my chair with
 >such bliss that it was almost unbearable. Time, went bye-bye.
 >It was as if a big switch had been thrown and something inside of me
 >had been activated. The energy was rolling and came from within. People
 commented
 >an a "difference" I had. I had the feeling of having no begining and no end.
 >Anyway, to express into words is difficult, but I hpe you can give me some
 >steerage. The experience has subsided, and now I want to know what hit me.
 >Blessings,
 >Paul Joseph
 >
 >
 >
 Date: Wed, 03 Dec 1997 07:05:31
 From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>
 To: Kundalini-l <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
 Subject: Re: 2nd chakra--Negative not necessarily bad
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 I find this verry interesting.. what is negative? What I percieve from my point of view as mostly silent observer lately, is
 that the second Chakra expresses regardless of attempts to repress.  What
 is repressed often springs back stronger anyways..  Negative ideas about
 the energy cause negative manifestations.
 Thinking about the "negative" propensities and the forms they can take is
 illuminating.. especially with regard to the previously stated opinions and
 preferences of those engaged in the debate.
 Our greatest psychiatric geniuses have said that sexual repression is at
 the root of all human miseries. When our bodies and minds are denied their
 most fundamental instinctive expressions of love and unity, the individual
 suffers, and so the society suffers.
 
 >Dieter wrote....
 >>"Also, note that the second chakra has 6 propensities - disdain,
 
  Seen plenty of distain flying around all over.. Dieter's distain for thehedonists, Ruth's distain for some men.. Gloria's distain for Satan..
 Distain for the chakra of distain? Some puzzle at work, here..
 I have some distain.. but mostly sympathy.. for those who chose to think
 that a chakra might be dangerous. I see that repression is the dangerous
 thing, like trying to cap a volcano. One may divert the streams of lava,
 but the pressure under the earth rising up is stronger than forces that
 would suppress it.
 
 > stupor,
 
  Whhattzat mean? Trance? Sleep? I do some of my best astral travellingafter the utter relaxation of Orgasms,.. yet I spent some time this weekend
 with a friend whose lack of outlets for loving sexual expression with the
 opposite sex, has become a depression of stuporous sleepiness... in sleep,
 she feels the sharp edges of loneliness less keenly.
 
 >>over-indulgence,
 
  Over indulgence in what? There has seemed to be mostly an overindulgencein judgements about whose path is most correct.. can one not also
 overindulge in celibacy or meditation? How about over indulging in the
 bliss of the heart chakra to the point of scorn for the other centers? Or
 overindulging in one's own truth to the point of distain for the truths of
 others?
 
>distrust, 
 
  Does distrust of the potent gift of Sexuality Expressed withoutrepression come then also from this centre? The puzzle again.. does the
 distrust of each other which keeps us from most intimate sacred union come
 from here also? Or is it simply a "feedback effect?" What is going in
 coming out?
 >fear of annihilation,
 Again.. fear of annilhilation, fear of intimacy, unity.. two beings
 merging into one and losing self in bliss? This comes of the second chakra,
 or the second chakra's gifts repressed and denied?
 >pitilessness.
 A very cold looking word, and one whose value I have been wrestling with,
 lately.
 I see pity, scorn and distain as having some similarities.. denial of the
 mirror of all that is. Pitilessness, tho is an apearing darkness that
 shines light as a gift of trust in the perfection of the individual's
 experiences.
 Pity, after all, is a gift that few truly want.. who wants to be pitied?
 Three similar words: Pity, sympathy, empathy.. each have a different
 meaning to me.
 Pity: There but for grace goes I.. you are not me and I am so glad coz
 I'm better off than you.. = separation.
 Sympathy: You are not me and I feel sorry for what you are going thru coz
 I don't like to see you unhappy. Separation but with love for other.
 Empathy: I feel what you are going thru coz there is only One of Us. Unity.
 
  I don't think faith in Goddess.. diety and pity can co-exist.. certainlynot with empathy. In empathy there is unity, and where unity goes, comes
 Goddess Power to heal all hurts.. so there is nothing to be pitied, all is
 happening in utter perfection of Divine Will. as it should be.. and there
 is no pity because pity requires separation into self and other to be
 pitied, and there is only One of Us.
 Where there is self pity, there is simply lack of faith in Goddess
 abundance.. no motive to go in search of the "silver linings", and see what
 new growth has come of the rainstorms. To pity oneself, one has to go into
 a fearful space with oneself that is not trusting of manifestations of
 unconditional Love.
 So if thru my work with the second chakra, I have lost my sense of pity,
 for myself and others, and gained empathy and faith, I cannot see this as a
 negative quality.
 Instead I am finding in it a very real strength.. because those who would
 attempt to use pity to manipulate me, find none to latch onto.
 It appears very cold at first to them, scary in it's alienness.. it is
 the cold fear of unfamiliarity when their strategies of victimhood don't
 work to cause the accustomed reaction.
 Instead it is met with my deepest empathy, which looks right past the
 guilt and negative self esteem games that they are manifesting, to give
 love to the perfection I see within.. and empower it past the fears
 expressed.
 I am not one to offer pity to the shame of the elephant man, and allow
 him the bag over his head.. I am one to take it off him so I can see into
 his eyes, into the soul and find the unity there.. and to look at his lumps
 and know that humans really do come in all shapes and sizes of perfection,
 unique as snowflakes.
 It is a metaphor.. but I do take people who believe themselves..
 particularly their sexual being to be shameful and ugly, expose it and
 teach them of the beauty of perfection that it really is. Pity would be
 buying into their negative self images of weakness and shame.. I don't. I
 am pitiless, because I see their perfection, even tho they don't.. and I
 find many ways to say so, until they do.
 
 >
 >In response Rick Puravs wrote:
 >>These propensities are all negative. Surely the chakras, being sacred and
 >all,
 >>must have positive propensities as well. Creativity and increased refinement
 >>in the case of this chakra. I'm sure somebody a bit more familiar with these
 >>systems can list more positive qualities.
 I have mostly stayed out of the discussion, to hear what other folks
 think.. sacred sex being my focus.. I have some thoughts to offer..
 
  Creativity and refinement, yes..  Sex is the force of creation moving inside of humans, and most living
 things in nature. Why is most of our art and drama about sex and
 realtionships? It is everywhere, even when it is veiled and mysterious.
 How much love poetry has been written about the Mona Lisa's smile?
 Union of the primary duality.. the shortest path to higher awareness, the
 strongest force in nature... puts a spring in the step and a smile on the
 face. Stirs the K-fires to greater heights, stills the mind and body for
 deeper meditation. Sex is spiritual. Sex is very very sacred.
 All acts of Love and Pleasure serve the Goddess, and sexual energy can be
 directed to heal the planet.. pagan societies used to have fertility
 rituals where couples go out to make love in the fields because centuries
 of experience had shown them that the crops grew better when stimulated by
 human sexual energy. Creating more abundance for survival.
 These rituals also often involved partner swapping: kinky, eh? :)...
 partly because it increased the sexual energy released by the tantalization
 of "newness", and also to give infertile couples another chance at
 conception. Nature likes variety in DNA combinations. Children born from
 these celebrations were considered lucky, and cared for as a child of the
 whole community.
 Refinement=discernment?
 Pressure of repression building up to explosive force, messes up
 judgement/discernment in sexual expressions.. in other expressions.. we
 have all had to deal with cantankerous sexually frustrated folks, eh?
 Even the most casual observation would suggest that folks with happy sex
 lives are better able to respond to the trials and stresses of the everyday
 world... with grace and love.. simply because they have been told that they
 are loved, recently, without words and in a language that reaches deep into
 mind and soul, whether the sacredness in the act is consciously recognized
 or not. Whether the act was solo or not.. This pleasure comes from Goddess.
 It is no accident that the strongest drive we have, leads straight back to
 the Mother Goddess.
 (did the Earth Move for you? :)
 
  (pompous manifesto continued in "sex and intelligence".)Blessings, Mystress.
 Date: Wed, 03 Dec 1997 07:03:51
 From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>
 To: Kundalini-l <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
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  Thoughts from Mystress.. many and varied.. hope they are found worthreading..
 
  While to a certain extent, sexual energy transformed into other creativepursuits fuels genius and trancendence, there has to be plenty of sexual
 energy, in the first place, for that to happen.
 From my experience of highly sexual people, which is vast, "perverts"
 tend to be much brighter than average folks.. the idea of the "stupid
 pervert", is a predjudice of patriarchy.
 It takes brains to look beyond the "missionary position", and guts to go
 against society's harsh repression. Certainly, one has to look no farther
 than the Genuis-l to find individuals who boast about their intelligence to
 make up for their complete lack of sex life..
 We could have an extended thread about sex scandals of the various
 religous insitutions, if we were inclined to gossip. JFK to the Maharishi..
 leaders are horny folks.
 From my perspective, intelligence and a high sex drive go together more
 often than not.. and this makes sense, from an evolutionary perspective..
 breed more smarter people.. except that we thwart nature by being smart
 enough to use birth control.
 Then we assist evolution, by gathering sperm from Nobel Prize winners..
 Hi ho.
 
  To my mind, the few religions that are sex-positive are the ones reallyinvested in empowering the individual. The religions that are
 sex-negative/repressive.. usually patriarchal, like the Judaeo-christian
 and some Vedic.. tend to hide the sacred power of sexuality under a lot of
 warnings and tabus to keep the seeker controllable. (watch out for the snake!)
 This works, coz most folks want to be controlled.. followers outnumber
 leaders.
 
 Awakened people cannot be so easily controlled.. as Ghandhi said about the
 still, small voice within, being the only tyrant he would accept. He was
 "married with children".
 
  I get all the sex I want, eat meat, smoke.. and my IQ has been increasingsteadily. It kind of amazes me, but I think of the hierarchies of
 intelligence, thus:
 
  The logical ego-mind.. the conscious part that most folks think of as "I"is the most limited in terms of intelligence. It is preoccupied with fears
 appearances and limitations percieved as reality.  In realtionship to the
 much vaster unconscious, it is as the moon to the sun. Feeble.
 That's most of the brain.. and there are as many nuerons in the human
 brain as there are stars in the known universe.
 Quite a lot..
 Yet the intelligence of the body is estimated to be a TRILLION TIMES that
 of the brain.
 Not only the brain, but every nerve in the body stores memory. With the
 spinal cord, that makes for more information stored in the body than in the
 brain. Added to that, is the "cellular intelligence". The fluid membrane
 around every single cell stores memory also. The body KNOWS a trillion
 times better!
 
  Zen and the art of anything.. is disengaging the brain-mind and workingwith the body-mind. Perfect, effortless, miraculous, without thought.
 Instinctive.
 
  Spirit is on the top of the hierarchy of intelligence, of course, beinginfinite and limitless.
 
  Yet, spirit speaks thru the body more readily than the brain.. the firstpart of learning to engage intuitional faculties, is learning to listen to
 the body: Hair rising on the back of the neck, goosebumps and energy
 shivers.. the positive-negative answers from heart and gut. It is the
 body-mind that pulls your hand from a hot stove before your brain even
 knows about it.. and the Woman who lifts a truck to save her child is not
 stopping to first ask her mind whether it thinks she can do it. Instinct is
 wiser than logic.
 
  K-fires up Genius anyways, but I tend to think that part of the increasein intelligence is coming from my listening to my body more. Respecting my
 instincts, has opened me up more to the vastness of instinctive
 information, and the many signals that spirit sends thru body-mind. When I
 stop and focus on my body, in the zen space of silence there is room for
 all kinds of information to come into my mind.. from not just my body, but
 from my Higher Self, spirit guides, guardian angels, faerie..
 It is an expression in the BDSM world, "The Mistress/Master is Always
 Right".
 Except in my case, it is more than an expression.. With my slaves, it is
 more like an ironic running joke.. coz I am right, an absurd percentage of
 the time.. like almost always.. about things I ought not logically to
 know... it takes them some getting used to. Tee hee.. it does give them a
 sense of security, tho.
 Nice to know the one who is making the decisions has a strong tendency to
 always make correct ones.
 My pride in this achievement is very self-limiting.. because the
 information is not coming from the "I" that would be prideful about it.. it
 is coming when the logical self gets out of the way, and takes instructions
 from elsewhere..
 Sometimes it is really hard to be right, all the time, especially about
 some things.. like premonitions of death.
 
 Bodies communicate with each other, too, in a complex lightspeed
 communication that we are not conscious of.
 Zen and the art of Acting.. we detect the difference between good actors
 and bad ones instinctively, thru the prescence or abscence of something
 called the "kinetic dance".
 It was discovered when some folks researching body language did a study:
 they filmed two strangers meeting for the first time with super high speed
 film. (many times) Then they slowed the film right down and analysed it
 meticulously for signals being exchanged.
 They were staggered to discover that within two seconds of meeting, there
 were more than 10,000 signals from one body to the other.. reciprocated.
 Holy First Impressions, Batman! Your body has told your whole life story,
 and heard theirs, and exchanged opinions about each, before you can even
 say hello!
 It is this information, that forms the mysterious thing we call
 "chemistry" between people. It, like other higher awareness, is something
 "felt", but not usually clearly definable in words.
 So, if your body is calling for you to connect intimately with another
 body, it might be because it is wiser and knows what and who is good for
 you, much, much better than you do.
 
  You don't need high speed film to observe the "kinetic dance", tho. Watchfolks in a restaurant, or in any public place, and notice how each person
 moves in some way when each other person does, as if to maintain some
 invisible balance between them. It is most readily observed with friends
 and couples, but can be seen even between strangers carefully ignoring each
 other at a bus stop. Their minds think they are not communicating, yet by
 observing the kinetic dance, we see that their bodies are actually chatting
 away to each other.
 So it is with stage fright.. self-consciousness makes us try to control
 the body lest it tell too much about us in front of all those people.. !80
 and so we feel stiff and clumsy and stupid, the kinetic dance is absent, or
 rather, the body is busy telling everyone how scared we are, instead of
 sending the message we intend.
 
 Some one, M. I think.. asked about "fluids".. Far from being concerned about "lack of secretions", I am one of those
 women who can ejaculate.. amithra, the sacred essence, I share it only with
 those who are beloved to me, as it has an intoxicating effect on those who
 taste it.. Love potion #9.. they describe it as a sweetness they find
 themselves thristing for, with their whole being. Delightful. I get to
 watch/feel their vibration rising, as the energy of it shoots thru their
 whole bring, radiant with light. Blows my mind, too..
 Love is not like other energies, the more it is shared, the more of it
 there is.. the fount will never run dry.
 From a health point of view.... sex causes increased heartrate, thus
 increases circulation causes sweating.. both of which are important for
 cleansing the body of toxins and maintaining health.. activating the lymph,
 and balancing hormones.    Lymph is largely involved with cleansing the
 body systems.. more folks suffer from too much clogged up than too little..
 because of muscular tightness and stress. One of the best ways to get lymph
 moving to improve health by clearing toxins and tightness? Being touched by
 other humans.. massauge. 2 hugs a day for good mental health...  Excercise
 and deep relaxation. Sex. Staying grounded and in a spiritual state is
 easier, in a body that is not being agitated by stress and toxic conditions.
 
 Kundalites are in a process of cleansing not just daily toxins, but also
 the various detrius of past karma.. best removed by raising the body's
 vibration by focusing on love.. and unity.. and is a wonderful release of
 stress. Stress is the big killer. Folks glow and look healthier after sex,
 usually in my observation.    (Unless it is reeeally disappointing sex.. :(  )
 Hormones are closely involved in regulating moods, and being able to
 control feelings is an important aspect of detachment. It is the starving
 man, who overeats, and does himself harm.
 Sex without love is like drinking wine to soothe thirst.. the thirst
 keeps increasing with every glass, into addiction.
 Sexual creative energy funneled thru the Heart and given up to Goddess..
 feeds and waters All that Is. The cup runneth over, and must be share mored
 widely.. the energy goes out from the act, to promote more love in other
 non-sexual interactions.
 I use my sexual energy K-fired and combine it with creative visualization
 for manifestations and healing. Sometimes this diverts my sex drive
 temporarily, it goes wandering off to do the work and seems gone from my
 being.. but it never really is.. often it seems I live in a sensual world,
 making love to everything around me.. but too much celibacy (defined as no
 orgasms) and I find myself getting cranky and oversensitive to slights. I
 can easily correct this imbalance, solo.. making love to Self and Gaia,
 moving the energy with gratitude for my body's ability to feel such
 trancendent pleasure, and releasing it in orgasms as a Gift to Goddess.
 Without sex there is still intimacy. Greater intimacy after..
 Those who are beloved are in my heart, mind and body all the time, and I
 am in theirs.. the connection is not limited to the physical, but charged
 and enhanced by it. Within the physical, I have literally hundreds of ways
 to explore the exchange of sexual energy, without any actual sexual
 contact.. not even kissing... that is my personal pleasure, but also my
 profession.. and my professional BDSM sessions cause KA.
 
  These days, so does my healing touch. Reliably. It causes me some concern.. Lately I have taken to volunteering my healing talents down at the local
 "medical marijuana compassion club", casually, in their lounge.. and I am
 thinking of getting some folders on K.A. printed up, coz I feel like I
 should be explain K., with a warning, before offering healing.. Give folks
 the chance to RUN! before I touch them and wake the serpents..
 (telling them that they won't ever be the same again, sometimes sounds
 pretty ominous..!)
 One fella even "caught" just by curiously watching me work with the other
 folks, and wanting the same.  Sigh.
 Attempting control of shaktipat is useless tho.. seems it is not up to
 me, it is up to the higher self of the recipient. I must trust that Goddess
 knows what She is doing, in having our paths cross in the first place, and
 will continue to guide them to what they need, whether I give them the
 "crash course" on K. or not.
 
  I have had a few aware people tell me, that recieving my healing (notsexual) touch is more intimate than sex with some lovers they have known.
 When I use my empathy, we become one.
 
 ....all these statues of the Buddah in meditation sporting a big woodie?
 I have read many accounts of folks for whom the K. rises most
 trancendently, thru sexual expression, or as a result of it. Pleasure and
 trancendent bliss. The sensual world of Eden percieved, in the kiss of a
 warm breeze on the cheek firing energy orgasms throughout the body. Making
 love to the world.
 
 Love to All.. Blessings, Mystress.
 
Mystress Angelique Serpent, Dominant Experiential Facilitator.
 Website= http://www.domin8rex.com/serpent
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 -- Clive James
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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 Date: Wed, 3 Dec 1997 09:21:01 -0500
 From: "Duncan, Mark" <duncanmATnospamemh22.eustis.army.mil>
 To: Kundalini List <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
 Cc: Ruth Trimble <trimbleATnospamhawaii.edu>
 Subject: Untamed Powers (Off Subject)
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A friend of mine has a gift of healing by energy.
 
However, when she gets mad, glass breaks and mirrors shatter in herpresence.  She is desperately seeking help on how to control this power.
 She is such a nice mild mannered person it is hard to see this level of
 anger coming from her.  She will not even hurt a fly (seriously).  Is
 there anywhere to go for info?  What books are available.
 
If you feel this info would not benefit the people of this list, pleaseemail me directly and not through the list.
 
Love & Light
 
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