1997/11/28  18:21  
 kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #772 
  
kundalini-l-d Digest				Volume 97 : Issue 772
 
Today's Topics: 
  Kundalini emergence...or what? (a ne  [ Delirium <deliriumATnospamfull-moon.com> ] 
  RE: Urddhvareta/menopause             [ Blythe <merlinATnospampnn.com> ] 
  Re: Kundalini emergence...or what? (  [ Blythe <merlinATnospampnn.com> ] 
  Re: Kundalini emergence...or what? (  [ amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us ] 
  Re: kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #771     [ Ruth Trimble <trimbleATnospamhawaii.edu> ] 
  Re: The thinker feels                 [ Daniel James Giszczak <danjgATnospamengin. ] 
  Re: kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #771     [ KLKD15DATnospamprodigy.com (MS DENISE L CO ] 
  RE: Urddhvareta/website               [ KLKD15DATnospamprodigy.com (MS DENISE L CO ] 
  *>transcendent experience<* was:Kund  [ M <chooseagainATnospamthegrid.net> ] 
  Fwd: RE: Urddhvareta/website          [ KLKD15DATnospamprodigy.com (MS DENISE L CO ] 
  Multi-orgasmic                        [ Ruth Trimble <trimbleATnospamhawaii.edu> ] 
  who?                                  [ chriskATnospamfirstnet.co.uk (chris keir) ] 
  Re: Kundalini emergence...or what? (  [ The.Lesser.HalfATnospamworldnet.att.net ] 
  Re: Strengthening the aura            [ The.Lesser.HalfATnospamworldnet.att.net ] 
Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997 12:09:22 +0000 
From: Delirium <deliriumATnospamfull-moon.com> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Kundalini emergence...or what? (a newbie post) 
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Note: long and rambling first post follows...
 
I am a 41 year old female in excellent health. The other day I had a 
remarkable experience, marked by ecstatic feelings, "orgasmic" 
breathing, and sensations that all was love and all was as it should be 
(this description of the experience is *considerably* edited)...this 
experience was so unsettling I began looking for what might be 
happening, and descriptions of kundalini energy emerging seemed to 
fit...
 
I have also, for several years and for no physically explainable reason,
 
been having "muscle spasms" that seem, at least to me, to mimic hand 
mudra gestures...and I understand this may also be a "symptom" of the 
above...
 
My spiritual path at present is sort of an esoteric blend of wicca and 
zen and...a bit of this and that. I have been "nearly" vegetarian (I 
know, how do you do this? by not eating meat or animal products often at 
all is my answer...) I have also been taking Prozac for depression 
(depression is something totally alien to me before I turned 40 and had 
a good friend betray me...another of life's learning experiences...)
 
On the day of the most remarkable experience (vaguely described in the 
first paragraph above) I awoke early and planned on going to my office 
to do a cleansing ritual. Our home has also been housing a small group 
of mice which I had been "liberating" with a humane trap for two 
days...and I found a mouse in the trap, the creature had been there for 
several hours and looked like hell...so I took the mouse down the garden 
and let it go on a leaf...where it wandered about looking like it was in 
shock and I felt bad because this trap was supposed to be humane...and 
this mouse looked like it had been in a concentration camp or 
something...so I picked up the mouse and took it into our greenhouse 
where it was warm, and sat with the creature until it seemed calm and 
more responsive...last I knew the mouse was burrowing happily into a 
pile of shredded paper. I left it there, went back in the house and 
prepared for my office cleansing later on...
 
At the office, I performed my ritual and focused on dispelling any 
negative energy that had built up there, bringing positive energy 
in...this ritual took about an hour. I then walked through the office 
and meditated on each individual who worked there, visualizing drawing 
positive energy in...this took a bit more time, although I wasn't 
watching the clock...
 
I finished my ritual, returned home (about a ten minute drive), and had 
some final things to do when I returned home with some of the tools of 
this ritual. I took them into the back garden and put them in a brass 
bowl where I prepared to burn them and finish the ritual. I found a 
quiet spot in the trees and sat on a rock, and started the ritual 
burning...this took some time as well and I remember losing track of 
time while this was going on. I finally finished burning everything to 
ash, got up from the low rock where I was sitting, and returned to the 
house with the brass bowl, ash still smoking slightly. I put the bowl 
down on a safe place on our deck and went into the house, noticing that 
I smelled strongly of smoke and was very tired and thirsty. I changed 
out of my smoky blouse, poured myself a small glass of wine and sat on 
the couch for a few minutes, until I noticed that outside the sky was 
turning a beautiful pre-dusk color of apricot...I moved out to the deck 
and sat in the cool dusky afternoon looking at the apricot and turquoise 
sky, venus and jupiter shining brightly...the clouds were high apricot 
color and moving slowly, the breeze was gentle and the trees outlined 
against the sky...and as I sat I was overwhelmed with the whole 
thing...the sky, the trees, the sounds, the feel of breeze on my 
face...it was a connectedness I hadn't felt for a very long time. One of 
our schnauzers, Dal, was sitting on the deck next to me and I was 
overcome with a sense that this dog was love...thoughts of love went 
through me...no, not thoughts, waves of feeling...I started saying "Oh 
god, oh goddess, this is all love..." and breathing rhythmically...and 
the experience, the waves, the whole thing, kept up for quite some 
time...I have a neighbor who we have not got along with well for some 
time, and at this time I realized that she, too, was love...and it was 
so incredible...I nearly got up and went to knock on our neighbor's door 
to give her a big hug...but was too "high" on this experience to do 
this...<smile>
 
The energy moving through me in waves was not sexual per se but it was 
as though I was having an orgasmic experience of some sort...with the 
universe. That is not adequate to explain and describe what I 
felt/didn't feel...it was ecstatic, mystical...a oneness...those words 
are not enough.
 
When this finished, I walked down the yard and looked up into the sky 
between the trees...it was like "coming down" from a high of some 
sort...and slowly I returned to the house, where I went inside, lay down 
on the couch and fell asleep...my husband got home and I shared this 
experience with him...
 
If anyone on this list has insights for me on this experience, or can 
tell me "what to do now?"...I would appreciate your input.
 
Bright blessings--Delirium 
Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997 10:17:15 -0800 (PST) 
From: Blythe <merlinATnospampnn.com> 
To: Dieter Dambiec <d.dambiecATnospamstudent.canberra.edu.au> 
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: RE: Urddhvareta/menopause 
Message-Id: <199711281817.KAA03081ATnospampnn.com> 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
 
At 03:12 AM 11/29/97 +1100, you wrote: 
>The women the situation is not much different to the above other than it  
>involves lymph, ova and sexual secretions of a different type to males  
>(obviously) 
>
 
Dieter, my question concerns women after menopause, when ova are not 
ripening anymore, and sexual secretions are close to nil. How, then, the 
effects of sexuality on the transformation lymph to other fluids? 
Blythe 
Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997 10:40:14 -0800 (PST) 
From: Blythe <merlinATnospampnn.com> 
To: deliriumATnospamionet.net 
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: Kundalini emergence...or what? (a newbie post) 
Message-Id: <199711281840.KAA03625ATnospampnn.com> 
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At 12:09 PM 11/28/97 +0000, you wrote: 
Welcome, Delirium. I'm a relative newcomer, too. This is a good place for 
sharing, speaking, listening, learning. I hope you enjoy it also.
 
>I am a 41 year old female in excellent health. The other day I had a 
>remarkable experience, marked by ecstatic feelings, "orgasmic" 
>breathing, and sensations that all was love and all was as it should be 
>(this description of the experience is *considerably* edited)...this 
>experience was so unsettling I began looking for what might be 
>happening, and descriptions of kundalini energy emerging seemed to 
>fit... 
> 
>I have also, for several years and for no physically explainable reason, 
> 
>been having "muscle spasms" that seem, at least to me, to mimic hand 
>mudra gestures...and I understand this may also be a "symptom" of the 
>above...
 
This is one of the things I wanted to speak to. I've had that experience off 
and on for 20+ years, whenever I was running a lot of energy. Two years ago, 
someone told me that it was called 'tetany', and that it shows up in areas 
where energy is not flowing freely. I've had it happen in my stomach and 
chest areas, also, to the point that breathing became difficult. I'm only 
now connecting it with kundalini working. The instructors at Body Erotic, 
who called it tetany, showed me how I could move the energy around and 
through the blocks by relaxing and letting. That proved helpful to know. 
Other times, like when I was having a hard time breathing, I had to find a 
needy person who would accept energy and just hug them until the spasming 
eased. Maybe your tetany won't go beyond your hands. Personally, when it was 
in my hands, I was ok with it. When it hit my stomach and chest, it was 
scary. Having a name and other people's ideas of what to do with it, helped me.
 
Blessings are, {And time to do chores...} 
Blythe 
Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997 13:46:16 -0600 
From: amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: Kundalini emergence...or what? (a newbie post) 
Message-ID: <1331397657-22427828ATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us> 
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delirium wrote:
 
>(depression is something totally alien to me before I turned 40 and had 
>a good friend betray me...another of life's learning experiences...)
 
This betrayal by a good friend seems to be a common emerging theme on this list.
 
>At the office, I performed my ritual and focused on dispelling any 
>negative energy that had built up there, bringing positive energy 
>in...this ritual took about an hour. I then walked through the office 
>and meditated on each individual who worked there, visualizing drawing 
>positive energy in...this took a bit more time, although I wasn't 
>watching the clock...
 
Fascinating way to deal with negativity at work. I too have a key to my 
office area and I could try this too. Thanks for the idea!
 
>and it was 
>so incredible...I nearly got up and went to knock on our neighbor's door 
>to give her a big hug...but was too "high" on this experience to do 
>this...<smile>
 
I remember this feeling. I took some chocolate chip cookies to a neighbor I 
knew had disliked me (info through the gossp grapevine). Both her and her 
husband thought I was totally insane, of course. You could see the "what 
the hell?" in their eyes. It is quite hilarious now, looking back on it. My 
gesture actually made them paranoid! I think they wondered if I had added 
"something" to the traditional toll house recipe (I hadn't!), as they 
seemed reluctant to eat one in my presence. For all I know, all that chewy, 
buttery, chocolatey goodness ended up in the garbage as soon as I walked 
out the door. However, after that they were friendlier, if only maybe out 
of fear of what I'd do next, LOL. Funny how people will talk behind your 
back, but when you show up in the flesh on their front doorstep they nearly 
lose control of their bodily functions.
 
>The energy moving through me in waves was not sexual per se but it was 
>as though I was having an orgasmic experience of some sort...with the 
>universe. That is not adequate to explain and describe what I 
>felt/didn't feel...it was ecstatic, mystical...a oneness...those words 
>are not enough.
 
I had this experience too, but not watching a beautiful sunset, and it 
scared the bejesus out of me. Bravo for you that you were in a setting and 
a mind set that allowed you to actually enjoy it.
 
>If anyone on this list has insights for me on this experience, or can 
>tell me "what to do now?"...I would appreciate your input.
 
I will leave the advice to those on this list with more expertise than I. I 
will only say that being as in touch with nature as you apparently are, you 
are certainly already doing something right.
 
Welcome to the list! 
amckeon 
Date: 	Fri, 28 Nov 1997 09:51:17 -1000 
From: Ruth Trimble <trimbleATnospamhawaii.edu> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com 
Subject: Re: kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #771 
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95q.971128092450.6999B-100000ATnospamuhunix4> 
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Hi Dieter:  
From: Dieter Dambiec <d.dambiecATnospamstudent.canberra.edu.au> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
 
Frankly, sex is not a big deal - the inner motives for our actions is what 
counts. 
>>>>
 
So you say this Dieter, and then expound at great length and repetition 
about what we SHOULD and SHOULD not do...  
Sorry fella, but it seems to me this protracted essay belonged in your 
diary.  I would think you are not aware of your audience here..  
.. or was this autobiographical? 
Most people who have gone the way of Goddess K. I would think have a much 
more sophisticated understanding of the use of the sexual energy. On my 
other list we have expounded the virtues of the multi-orgasmic male who 
never has to shed semen.. and I feel sure that the Hindus are taught this  
from early years.  
The multi-orgasmic male does not need to shed a single drop of semen yet 
he can still have orgasms, as many has he chooses and his partner is 
equally orgasmic. I cannot think of a better way to bond with someone of 
the opposite sex than that! It is simple to learn, there are many good 
books on the topic and it is spiritually incredibly uplifting and 
healing.  I would suggest to the males on this list, and I am sure other 
women would agree with me, that if you are not operating in this mode, 
then you are wasting your energies and you and your partner are being 
short changed in the ecstacy department by hours.. and hours...! AND those 
Goddesses who put up with your 3 second orgasms are to be pitied! If more 
American men learned this I am certain there would be a whole lot fewer 
divorces and sales of vibrators.. !  Who would not prefer a 3 hour orgasm 
to a 3second sneeze? 
   
That's it from Hawaii... the land of the hula which could be called  
foreplay in a  grass skirt!ATnospam#$ <BG>  
***** 
Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997 15:25:09 -0500 (EST) 
From: Daniel James Giszczak <danjgATnospamengin.umich.edu> 
To: "F. Drew " <leydaATnospamvalunet.com> 
cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: The thinker feels 
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> >>What insanity! I realize that I think because I don't want to feel. My 
>  
> I do the same thing ! I think one part of my self is trying to keep another 
> part of myself from being aware.
 
 I do the same.  Do any of you feel a "hardness" around your heart 
area when you stop feelin', or is it just My imagination? 
 Dan 
Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997 15:33:58, -0500 
From: KLKD15DATnospamprodigy.com (MS DENISE L COVINGTON) 
To: trimbleATnospamhawaii.edu 
cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com 
Subject: Re: kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #771 
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My Dear Ruth: 
Please forgive me for saying this, but it seems to me thou doest protest 
too much!  Dieter's audience includes little old me, and the information 
happened to be much sought after by same.  I certainly agree that sex 
can be a beautiful experience, however, (for Me) it is not the be all 
and end all of my spiritual being.  It is simply one lovely aspect of 
same.
 
Let us rejoice in our differences.   Or, as Peace Pilgrim once said, 
"Religion is not an end in itself.  One's union with God is the ultimate 
goal.  There are so many religions because immature people tend to 
emphasize trivial differences instead of important likenesses.  
Differences between faiths lie in creeds and rituals rather than 
religious principles."  Sex, too, can be a religion.
 
Thanks for hearing me out, I mean no offense--only lovingkindness.  Let 
us not judge, but rather learn.  I am but a baby in the forest seeking 
the light and I gain from each correspondence on the K-list.  With that 
said,  I'll go back to my lurking and learning.  
 
Be Blessed, 
D 
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Date: Friday, 28-Nov-97 02:54 PM
 
From: Ruth Trimble             \ Internet:    (trimbleATnospamhawaii.edu) To:   
kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com (Unlisted Name) \ Internet:    (kundalini- 
lATnospamlists.execpc.com)
 
Subject: Re: kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #771
 
Hi Dieter:  
From: Dieter Dambiec <d.dambiecATnospamstudent.canberra.edu.au> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
 
Frankly, sex is not a big deal - the inner motives for our actions is 
what counts. 
>>>>
 
So you say this Dieter, and then expound at great length and repetition 
about what we SHOULD and SHOULD not do...  
Sorry fella, but it seems to me this protracted essay belonged in your 
diary.  I would think you are not aware of your audience here..  
.. or was this autobiographical? 
Most people who have gone the way of Goddess K. I would think have a 
much 
more sophisticated understanding of the use of the sexual energy. On my 
other list we have expounded the virtues of the multi-orgasmic male who 
never has to shed semen.. and I feel sure that the Hindus are taught 
this  
from early years.  
The multi-orgasmic male does not need to shed a single drop of semen yet 
he can still have orgasms, as many has he chooses and his partner is 
equally orgasmic. I cannot think of a better way to bond with someone of 
the opposite sex than that! It is simple to learn, there are many good 
books on the topic and it is spiritually incredibly uplifting and 
healing.  I would suggest to the males on this list, and I am sure other 
women would agree with me, that if you are not operating in this mode, 
then you are wasting your energies and you and your partner are being 
short changed in the ecstacy department by hours.. and hours...! AND 
those 
Goddesses who put up with your 3 second orgasms are to be pitied! If 
more 
American men learned this I am certain there would be a whole lot fewer 
divorces and sales of vibrators.. !  Who would not prefer a 3 hour 
orgasm 
to a 3second sneeze? 
   
That's it from Hawaii... the land of the hula which could be called  
foreplay in a  grass skirt!ATnospam#$ <BG>  
*****
 
 
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Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997 15:34:00, -0500 
From: KLKD15DATnospamprodigy.com (MS DENISE L COVINGTON) 
To: d.dambiecATnospamstudent.canberra.edu.au, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com 
cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com 
Subject: RE: Urddhvareta/website 
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Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
 
Dear DD: 
although I previously responded, am doing so again due to possible 
"technical difficulties" involving that transmission.  So, here it is 
again:  
 
Thank you for enlightening me, I have been searching for just this 
information (you have blessed me!) My question is, what does this say to 
those females of us who have had ovaries, etc. surgically removed? 
 
Awaiting Answers, 
D 
Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997 12:58:43 -0800 (PST) 
From: M  <chooseagainATnospamthegrid.net> 
To: amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us 
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, deliriumATnospamionet.net 
Subject: *>transcendent experience<* was:Kundalini emergence..or 
  what?(a newbie post) 
Message-Id: <199711282058.MAA22011ATnospamgridsat.thegrid.net> 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
 
At 01:46 PM 11/28/97 -0600, amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us wrote: 
>delirium wrote: 
>>>a good friend betray me...another of life's learning experiences...) 
> 
>This betrayal by a good friend seems to be a common emerging theme on this 
list. 
> 
>I had this experience too, but not watching a beautiful sunset, and it 
>scared the bejesus out of me. Bravo for you that you were in a setting and 
>a mind set that allowed you to actually enjoy it. 
> 
>>>If anyone on this list has insights for me on this experience, or can 
>>>tell me "what to do now?"...I would appreciate your input.
 
Delirium,
 
I'd say yours is a beautifully described >>*>transcendent experience<<*<.  I 
too want to congratulate you on the mind set that kept you calm and rational 
afterwards.  People meditate and do yoga for years and years to get a taste 
of these kinds of experiences.  Others nearly die! I mean that quite literally:
 
I am just now reading PMH Atwater's Beyond the Light: What isn't being said 
about near-death esperience.  She puts NDE into four categories, one is the 
NDE-like experience...a gentle version, without illness, trauma, etc. 
Basically an OBE type experience that is transcendent.  She goes on to 
describe 7 traits of people who have had any of these types of experiences. 
They are: 
  
 1.  we depersonalize love, we love without attachments or 
conditions, this is confusing to those who were 'specia' to us before the event
 
 2.  boundaries, rules and limits seem irrelevant, the usual cautions 
and abilities of discernment fade
 
 3.  the past and future seem irrelevant, we look to the distance to 
find memories and don't look directly at anyone or anything
 
 4.  our sensitivities enhance and expand (electrical ones too), 
intuition increases, moves toward the psychic
 
 5.  we are less attached to the physical reality and it can take a 
long time before we re-establish our body's importance and relevance
 
 6.  our personalities balance out, fewer fears, men become more 
caring, women more assertive
 
 7.  we have difficulty communicating because we think so abstractly 
and hear a "different drummer"
 
To read this was so VALIDATING for me.  My NDE like experience was about 9 
years ago   (K rising 2 years ago) andI have noticed that the 7 traits not 
only remain but they expand year by year.   This is common among us 
NDE/OBE/transcendent experiencers too apparently.
 
I hope the list of traits is helpful to us all.  I personally see myself in 
every trait and now, instead of trying to overcome these 'flaws', I hope my 
awarness of their origin will help me lead a more peaceful life.
 
In Love and Service, 
M 
Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997 17:06:07, -0500 
From: KLKD15DATnospamprodigy.com (MS DENISE L COVINGTON) 
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com 
Subject: Fwd: RE: Urddhvareta/website 
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Date: Friday, 28-Nov-97 03:35 PM
 
From: wlfwmn                   \ PRODIGY:     (KLKD15D) 
To:   Dieter Dambiec           \ Internet:    (d.dambiecATnospamstudent. 
canberra.edu.au) 
To:   kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com (Unlisted Name) \ Internet:    
(kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com) 
cc:   kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com (Unlisted Name) \ Internet:    
(kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com)
 
Subject: RE: Urddhvareta/website
 
Dear DD: 
although I previously responded, am doing so again due to possible 
"technical difficulties" involving that transmission.  So, here it is 
again:  
 
Thank you for enlightening me, I have been searching for just this 
information (you have blessed me!) My question is, what does this say to 
those females of us who have had ovaries, etc. surgically removed? 
 
Awaiting Answers, 
D
 
 
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Date: 	Fri, 28 Nov 1997 12:16:49 -1000 
From: Ruth Trimble <trimbleATnospamhawaii.edu> 
To: MS DENISE L COVINGTON <KLKD15DATnospamprodigy.com> 
cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com 
Subject: Multi-orgasmic 
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95q.971128115631.25031B-100000ATnospamuhunix4> 
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
 
Hi Denise:  
You said:  
> Please forgive me for saying this, but it seems to me thou doest protest 
> too much! 
Perhaps I do so because I find this very old having heard it for so long 
and having found so many who speak on this topic are parroting what they 
have heard, rather than what they experience.  
>  Dieter's audience includes little old me, and the information 
> happened to be much sought after by same. 
Then I have opened up a further dimension to what you know also. That 
cannot hurt. WE are not all the same, nor at the same place.  
Dieter is serving you. Fine! One day you may be ready to hear something 
beyond this rehash of the old dogma. 
 
> Let us rejoice in our differences.   Or, as Peace Pilgrim once said, 
> "Religion is not an end in itself.  One's union with God is the ultimate 
> goal.  There are so many religions because immature people tend to 
> emphasize trivial differences instead of important likenesses.  
I am not sure that is why there are so many religions, but I know that in 
the arena of free speech, there are going to be many views... This forum 
is not a religious forum.  No one is debating doctrine here.  
It is for discussion of topics related to K. 
 
> Thanks for hearing me out, I mean no offense--only lovingkindness.  
I am not sure you are offensive or kind in this letter.. I really haven't 
been able to determine why you wrote it. Lovingkindness is something I 
know when I feel it. Criticism I also recognize. Why mask one with the 
other? 
 
> us not judge, but rather learn.  I am but a baby in the forest seeking 
> the light and I gain from each correspondence on the K-list.  With that 
> said,  I'll go back to my lurking and learning.   
Once you put yourself into the public arena, it is hard to hide your 
shadows and your true nature, Denise.  
 
****** 
***** 
Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997 22:15:26 GMT 
From: chriskATnospamfirstnet.co.uk (chris keir) 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: who? 
Message-ID: <22.7271.IB.1395.IB.274ATnospamfirstnet.co.uk> 
 
who is there to touch? 
Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997 23:21:29 GMT 
From: The.Lesser.HalfATnospamworldnet.att.net 
To: deliriumATnospamionet.net 
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: Kundalini emergence...or what? (a newbie post) 
Message-ID: <347f51f0.31048833ATnospammailhost.worldnet.att.net> 
 
Welcome, to the club, Delirium. Same with me the last week of October 
but mine was scary. Had an experience like yours the 3rd time a few 
weeks ago, I call it a ' psychic hug ', felt like 'God' picked me up 
in it's hand and breathed all the joy and happy experiences I've felt 
through my life, all in one, right into my soul. A ' teacher ' has 
come and my 'twin flame' has been revealed to me. Wether this is good 
or bad remains to be seen.
 
Enjoy
 
sassi
 
"When single shines the triple sun, what was sundererd and undone. Shall 
be whole, the two made one. By gelfling hand or else by none. "  
Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997 23:21:38 GMT 
From: The.Lesser.HalfATnospamworldnet.att.net 
To: oriATnospameskimo.com 
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: Strengthening the aura 
Message-ID: <348051fa.31058309ATnospammailhost.worldnet.att.net> 
 
On Fri, 28 Nov 97 04:47:40 +0000, you wrote:
 
The 1st 7 bodies correspond to the 7 chakras.  A system of numerology  
based on birthdate helps one to identify personal chart numbers for  
soul, mastery/karma, gift, knowledge/destiny, and path.  This can give 
one an idea of which bodies/chakras may need to be strengthened, also 
which ones are our strong points.  There are specific yoga 
kriyas/postures and meditations which benefit a particular body.
 
I would be interested in reading more about this, any suggestions ?
 
sassi
 
"When single shines the triple sun, what was sundererd and undone. Shall 
be whole, the two made one. By gelfling hand or else by none. " 
 
 
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