1997/11/24  14:04  
 kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #765 
  
kundalini-l-d Digest				Volume 97 : Issue 765
 
Today's Topics: 
  Humor - Gullibility Virus Spreading   [ ori^ <oriATnospameskimo.com> ] 
  Re: Humor - Gullibility Virus Spread  [ Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.co ] 
  Fw: twaddle                           [ "Sharon Webb" <shawebbATnospamyhc.edu> ] 
  Fw: twaddle                           [ "Sharon Webb" <shawebbATnospamyhc.edu> ] 
  Fw: Enjoy . . .                       [ "Sharon Webb" <shawebbATnospamyhc.edu> ] 
  Re: Flute's site                      [ "Harsh K. Luthar" <hlutharATnospamresearch ] 
  Re: Help, suggestions please. LONG    [ hbarrettATnospamix.netcom.com (Holly N. Ba ] 
  Re: Help, suggestions please.         [ amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us ] 
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 08:49:08 -0800 
From: ori^ <oriATnospameskimo.com> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Humor - Gullibility Virus Spreading over the Internet! 
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Off-topic
 
and humor... however does contain some valid web sites for 
checking out other "virus" announcements.
 
 ******************************* 
      WARNING, CAUTION, DANGER, AND BEWARE! 
      Gullibility Virus Spreading over the Internet! 
 *******************************
 
 WASHINGTON, D.C.--The Institute for the Investigation of Irregular 
 Internet Phenomena announced today that many Internet users are 
 becoming infected by a new virus that causes them to believe without 
 question every groundless story, legend, and dire warning that shows 
 up in their inbox or on their browser.  The Gullibility Virus, as it 
 is called, apparently makes people believe and forward copies of silly 
 hoaxes relating to cookie recipes, email viruses, taxes on modems, and 
 get-rich-quick schemes [perhaps conspiracy theories should be included 
 here].
 
 "These are not just readers of tabloids or people who buy lottery 
 tickets based on fortune cookie numbers," a spokesman said. "Most are 
 otherwise normal people, who would laugh at the same stories if told 
 to them by a stranger on a street corner."  However, once these same 
 people become infected with the Gullibility Virus, they believe 
 anything they read on the Internet.
 
 "My immunity to tall tales and bizarre claims is all gone," reported 
 one weeping victim.  "I believe every warning message and sick child 
 story my friends forward to me, even though most of the messages are 
 anonymous."
 
 Another victim, now in remission, added, "When I first heard about 
 Good Times, I just accepted it without question.  After all, there 
 were dozens of other recipients on the mail header, so I thought the 
 virus must be true."  It was a long time, the victim said, before she 
 could stand up at a Hoaxees Anonymous meeting and state, "My name is 
 Jane, and I've been hoaxed."  Now, however, she is spreading the word. 
 "Challenge and check whatever you read,"  she says.
 
 Internet users are urged to examine themselves for symptoms of the 
 virus, which include the following:
 
* the willingness to believe improbable stories 
  without thinking 
* the urge to forward multiple copies of such 
  stories to others 
* a lack of desire to take three minutes to check 
  to see if a story is true
 
 T. C. is an example of someone recently infected.  He told one 
 reporter, "I read on the Net that the major ingredient in almost all 
 shampoos makes your hair fall out, so I've stopped using shampoo." 
 When told about the Gullibility Virus, T. C. said he would stop 
 reading email, so that he would not become infected.
 
 Anyone with symptoms like these is urged to seek help immediately. 
 Experts recommend that at the first feelings of gullibility, Internet 
 users rush to their favorite search engine and look up the item 
 tempting them to thoughtless credence.  Most hoaxes, legends, and tall 
 tales have been widely discussed and exposed by the Internet community.
 
 Courses in critical thinking are also widely available, and there is 
 online help from many sources, including
 
* Department of Energy Computer Incident Advisory 
  Capability at 
 <http://ciac.llnl.gov/ciac/CIACHoaxes.html>
 
* Symantec Anti Virus Research Center at 
 <http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/index.html>
 
* McAfee Associates Virus Hoax List at 
 <http://www.mcafee.com/support/hoax.html>
 
* Dr. Solomons Hoax Page at 
 <http://www.drsolomons.com/vircen/hoax.html>
 
* The Urban Legends Web Site at 
 <http://www.urbanlegends.com>
 
* Urban Legends Reference Pages at 
 <http://www.snopes.com>
 
* Datafellows Hoax Warnings at 
 <http://www.Europe.Datafellows.com/news/hoax.htm>
 
 Those people who are still symptom free can help inoculate themselves 
 against the Gullibility Virus by reading some good material on 
 evaluating sources, such as
 
* Evaluating Internet Research Sources at 
 <http://www.sccu.edu/faculty/R_Harris/evalu8it.htm>
 
* Evaluation of Information Sources at 
 <http://www.vuw.ac.nz/~agsmith/evaln/evaln.htm>
 
* Bibliography on Evaluating Internet Resources at 
 <http://refserver.lib.vt.edu/libinst/critTHINK.HTM>
 
 Lastly, as a public service, Internet users can help stamp out the 
 Gullibility Virus by sending copies of this message to anyone who 
 forwards them a hoax.
 
 * 
 This message is so important, we're sending it anonymously!  Forward 
 it to all your friends right away!  Don't think about it!  This is not 
 a chain letter!  This story is true!  Don't check it out!  This story 
 is so timely, there is no date on it!  This story is so important, 
 we're using lots of exclamation points!  For every message you forward 
 to some unsuspecting person, the Home for the Hopelessly Gullible will 
 donate ten cents to itself.  (If you wonder how the Home will know you 
 are forwarding these messages all over creation, you're obviously 
 thinking too much.)
 
 ******************************** 
   ACT NOW!  DON'T DELAY!  LIMITED TIME!  NOT SOLD IN ANY STORE 
 ******************************** 
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 10:19:10 +0100 
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com> 
To: ori^ <oriATnospameskimo.com> 
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, heartzenATnospamlistserv.servtech.com 
Subject: Re: Humor - Gullibility Virus Spreading over the Internet! 
Message-ID: <3479468C.50B0ATnospamintercomm.com> 
 
ori^ wrote: 
>  
> Off-topic 
>  
> and humor... however does contain some valid web sites for 
> checking out other "virus" announcements. 
>  
>  ******************************* 
>              WARNING, CAUTION, DANGER, AND BEWARE! 
>              Gullibility Virus Spreading over the Internet! 
>  ******************************* 
>  
>  WASHINGTON, D.C.--The Institute for the Investigation of Irregular 
>  Internet Phenomena announced today that many Internet users are 
>  becoming infected by a new virus that causes them to believe without 
>  question every groundless story, legend, and dire warning that shows 
>  up in their inbox or on their browser.  The Gullibility Virus, as it 
>  is called, apparently makes people believe and forward copies of silly 
>  hoaxes relating to cookie recipes, email viruses, taxes on modems, and 
>  get-rich-quick schemes [perhaps conspiracy theories should be included 
>  here]. 
>  
>  "These are not just readers of tabloids or people who buy lottery 
>  tickets based on fortune cookie numbers," a spokesman said. "Most are 
>  otherwise normal people, who would laugh at the same stories if told 
>  to them by a stranger on a street corner."  However, once these same 
>  people become infected with the Gullibility Virus, they believe 
>  anything they read on the Internet. 
>  
>  "My immunity to tall tales and bizarre claims is all gone," reported 
>  one weeping victim.  "I believe every warning message and sick child 
>  story my friends forward to me, even though most of the messages are 
>  anonymous." 
>  
>  Another victim, now in remission, added, "When I first heard about 
>  Good Times, I just accepted it without question.  After all, there 
>  were dozens of other recipients on the mail header, so I thought the 
>  virus must be true."  It was a long time, the victim said, before she 
>  could stand up at a Hoaxees Anonymous meeting and state, "My name is 
>  Jane, and I've been hoaxed."  Now, however, she is spreading the word. 
>  "Challenge and check whatever you read,"  she says. 
>  
>  Internet users are urged to examine themselves for symptoms of the 
>  virus, which include the following: 
>  
>        * the willingness to believe improbable stories 
>          without thinking 
>        * the urge to forward multiple copies of such 
>          stories to others 
>        * a lack of desire to take three minutes to check 
>          to see if a story is true 
>  
>  T. C. is an example of someone recently infected.  He told one 
>  reporter, "I read on the Net that the major ingredient in almost all 
>  shampoos makes your hair fall out, so I've stopped using shampoo." 
>  When told about the Gullibility Virus, T. C. said he would stop 
>  reading email, so that he would not become infected. 
>  
>  Anyone with symptoms like these is urged to seek help immediately. 
>  Experts recommend that at the first feelings of gullibility, Internet 
>  users rush to their favorite search engine and look up the item 
>  tempting them to thoughtless credence.  Most hoaxes, legends, and tall 
>  tales have been widely discussed and exposed by the Internet community. 
>  
>  Courses in critical thinking are also widely available, and there is 
>  online help from many sources, including 
>  
>        * Department of Energy Computer Incident Advisory 
>          Capability at 
>                <http://ciac.llnl.gov/ciac/CIACHoaxes.html> 
>  
>        * Symantec Anti Virus Research Center at 
>                <http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/index.html> 
>  
>        * McAfee Associates Virus Hoax List at 
>                <http://www.mcafee.com/support/hoax.html> 
>  
>        * Dr. Solomons Hoax Page at 
>                <http://www.drsolomons.com/vircen/hoax.html> 
>  
>        * The Urban Legends Web Site at 
>                <http://www.urbanlegends.com> 
>  
>        * Urban Legends Reference Pages at 
>                <http://www.snopes.com> 
>  
>        * Datafellows Hoax Warnings at 
>                <http://www.Europe.Datafellows.com/news/hoax.htm> 
>  
>  Those people who are still symptom free can help inoculate themselves 
>  against the Gullibility Virus by reading some good material on 
>  evaluating sources, such as 
>  
>        * Evaluating Internet Research Sources at 
>                <http://www.sccu.edu/faculty/R_Harris/evalu8it.htm> 
>  
>        * Evaluation of Information Sources at 
>                <http://www.vuw.ac.nz/~agsmith/evaln/evaln.htm> 
>  
>        * Bibliography on Evaluating Internet Resources at 
>                <http://refserver.lib.vt.edu/libinst/critTHINK.HTM> 
>  
>  Lastly, as a public service, Internet users can help stamp out the 
>  Gullibility Virus by sending copies of this message to anyone who 
>  forwards them a hoax. 
>  
>  * 
>  This message is so important, we're sending it anonymously!  Forward 
>  it to all your friends right away!  Don't think about it!  This is not 
>  a chain letter!  This story is true!  Don't check it out!  This story 
>  is so timely, there is no date on it!  This story is so important, 
>  we're using lots of exclamation points!  For every message you forward 
>  to some unsuspecting person, the Home for the Hopelessly Gullible will 
>  donate ten cents to itself.  (If you wonder how the Home will know you 
>  are forwarding these messages all over creation, you're obviously 
>  thinking too much.) 
>  
>  ******************************** 
>    ACT NOW!  DON'T DELAY!  LIMITED TIME!  NOT SOLD IN ANY STORE 
>  ********************************
 
-- 
 
Enter The Silence to Know God ... and... accept life as the teacher.  
Gloria Joy Greco  
 e-mail me at : lodpressATnospamintercomm.com and visit our homepages at: 
http://users.intercomm.com/larryn/ 
&  
http://www.freeyellow.com/members/zg888/ 
Hope you enjoy them! 
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 1997 10:39:48 -0500 
From: "Sharon Webb" <shawebbATnospamyhc.edu> 
To: <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com> 
Subject: Fw: twaddle 
Message-Id: <199711231550.KAA24596ATnospamhoboken> 
 
Lobster,
 
You wrote: 
> Randi is a complete sceptic. His attitude and energy is unbalanced. In 
other words he  
> does not want believe that we are in a position were not everything can 
be explained  
> by our existing methods.
 
Exactly.  And add to this a deep and murky fear that the "irrational" might 
get him without his eternal vigilance and we have a man engaged in a holy 
war, not science.  Randi's closed mind bastardizes the science he professes 
to love and defend.
 
>The points in the posting were valid, a lot of psychism works  
> on the level discussed and to deny it shows an inability to grasp that in 
order for  
> dialogue to remain open between scientists and those of a mystic 
persuasion there must  
> be some compromise from both sides.
 
Of course.  But perhaps we need to remember that The Great Randi, science, 
religion, this list, your postings, and mine, as well as just about 
anything else including your favorite grocery store, all faithfully follow 
Sturgeon's Law which states, "90% of everything is crap."  :-)
 
> Just as I am not so niave as to suppose that all things are explainable 
so too am I not  
> so niave as to believe that you are doing nothing more than making a 
point.
 
I have read this sentence three times in order to discover its meaning.  
Three times is enough and so I will abandon the effort.
 
>An extreme  
> attitude may make a point but that does not mean we live there.
 
Unless we move into Randi's condo.
 
Love, 
Sharon 
shawebbATnospamyhc.edu 
A new fractal gallery was posted to this site on September 10th: 
http://home1.gte.net/itriazon/Sharon.htm 
USA Today Hot Site; Cosmic Site of the Night: Cool Central Site of the Day; 
ENC Digital Dozen for June '97; Enchantment Award; ArtSearch Featured Site; 
NetTech NeatTech: Best of the Web in Educational Technology; Eye Candy 
Honorable Mention 
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 1997 10:22:05 -0500 
From: "Sharon Webb" <shawebbATnospamyhc.edu> 
To: <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com> 
Subject: Fw: twaddle 
Message-Id: <199711231533.KAA24365ATnospamhoboken> 
 
---------- 
> From: E Jason <vv60ATnospamdial.pipex.com> 
> To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
> Subject: Re: twaddle 
> Date: Sunday, November 23, 1997 3:11 AM 
>  
> Sharon Webb wrote: 
>   
> > Lobster, 
> >  
> > Do you have any words of wisdon for one who considers The Great Randi's 
> > pontifications to be twaddle? 
>  
> Certainly. 
> Randi is a complete sceptic. His attitude and energy is unbalanced. In 
other words he  
> does not want believe that we are in a position were not everything can 
be explained  
> by our existing methods. The points in the posting were valid, a lot of 
psychism works  
> on the level discussed and to deny it shows an inability to grasp that in 
order for  
> dialogue to remain open between scientists and those of a mystic 
persuasion there must  
> be some compromise from both sides. 
> Just as I am not so niave as to suppose that all things are explainable 
so too am I not  
> so niave as to believe that you are doing nothing more than making a 
point. An extreme  
> attitude may make a point but that does not mean we live there. 
>  
> Most Kind Regards 
> Lobster 
>  
>   
> > Sharon 
> > shawebbATnospamyhc.edu 
> > A new fractal gallery was posted to this site on September 10th: 
> > http://home1.gte.net/itriazon/Sharon.htm 
> > USA Today Hot Site; Cosmic Site of the Night: Cool Central Site of the 
Day; 
> > ENC Digital Dozen for June '97; Enchantment Award; ArtSearch Featured 
Site; 
> > NetTech NeatTech: Best of the Web in Educational Technology; Eye Candy 
> > Honorable Mention 
>  
> --  
> Alchemical Research Center 
> All you need to know 
> http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/town/place/vv60/index.html 
>  
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 1997 10:19:08 -0500 
From: "Sharon Webb" <shawebbATnospamyhc.edu> 
To: <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com> 
Subject: Fw: Enjoy . . . 
Message-Id: <199711231530.KAA24323ATnospamhoboken> 
 
> From: E Jason <vv60ATnospamdial.pipex.com> 
> To: shawebbATnospamyhc.edu 
> Subject: Enjoy . . . 
> Date: Sunday, November 23, 1997 4:14 AM 
>  
> Dear Sharon, 
> Please forward this to the K forum. I will not ask you to forward 
anything more - thanks  
> for your help. 
>  
> Lobster 
>  
> ------------------------ 
>  
> Subject: The Chocolate Ritual 
>  
> The Chocolate Ritual 
>  
> Materials required: On the altar are brown candles, a Tootsie Roll (the 
big 
> one), a large glass with milk in it (the chalice), a small dish of 
Nestle's 
> Quik and a spoon, a small dish of chocolate sprinkles, a plate of 
cupcakes, 
> and some Yoo-Hoo along with a goblet.  The athame is represented by a 
cake 
> knife reserved only for cutting Devil's Food Cake, and the pentacle is 
> represented by a chocolate star. 
>  
> CLEANSE THE SACRED SPACE: 
> (take the small bowl of chocolate sprinkles) 
>  
> Chocolate sprinkles where thou art 
> Cast no calories in thy presence last. 
> Let no fat adhere to me 
> And as I will so mote it be! 
>  
> Nestle's Quik where thou art cast 
> Turn this milk to chocolate fast. 
> Let all good things come to me, 
> and make my milk all chocolatey! 
>  
> CAST THE CIRCLE 
> (using the Tootsie roll) 
>  
> CALL THE QUARTERS: 
>  
> Mousse of the East, Fluffy one! 
> Great prince of the palace of dessert! 
> be present we pray thee, 
> and guard this circle 
> from all moochers approaching 
> from the East. 
>  
> Fondue of the South, Molten one! 
> Great Prince of the palace of decadence! 
> be present we pray thee, 
> and guard this circle from all diets approaching 
> from the South. 
>  
> Cocoa of the West, Satisfying one! 
> Great prince of the palace of thirst! 
> Be present we pray thee, 
> and guard this circle from all carob approaching 
> from the West. 
>  
> Rocky Road of the North, Cold one! 
> Great Prince of the palace of crunchy! 
> Be present we pray thee, 
> and guard this circle from all cheap imitations approaching 
> from the North. 
>  
> MAIN RITUAL: 
>  
> HANDMAIDEN (Henceforth known as the Swiss Miss): 
>  
> Listen to the words of the Mother of Chocolate; who was of old called: 
> Godiva, Ethel M., Sara Lee, Nestle, Mrs. See, and by many other names: 
>  
> HPS: Whenever you have one of those cravings, once in a while and 
> better it be when your checkbook is full, then shall you assemble in a 
> great public place and bring offerings of money to the spirit of Me, who 
is 
> Queen of  all Goodies.  In the mall shall you assemble, you who have 
eaten 
> all your chocolate and are hungry for more.  To you I shall bring Good 
> Things 
> for your tongue.  And you shall have chocolate smears on your cheeks, and 
> you 
> shall munch, nosh, snack, feast, and make yummy noises all in my 
presence. 
> For mine is the ecstacy of phenylalanine, and mine is also the joy on 
> earth, 
> yea, even into high orbit, for my law is "melts in your mouth, not in 
your 
> hand."  Keep clean your fingers, carry Wet Ones always, let none stop you 
> aside.  For mine is the secret that opens your mouth, and mine is the 
taste 
> that puts a smile on your lips and the comfy padding pounds on your hips. 
> I 
> am the gracious Goddess who gives the gift of joy onto the tummies of men 
> and 
> women. 
>  
> Upon earth, I give knowledge of all things delicious, and beyond 
> death...well, I can't do much there.  Sorry about that.  I demand only 
you 
> have to pay for those truffles before you eat them. 
>  
> SWISS MISS: Hear now the words of the Goodie Goddess, she in the dust of 
> whose feet are the cheap imitations, whose body graces candy racks and 
> finer 
> stores everywhere: 
>  
> I, who am the beauty of chocolate chips, and the satisfying softness of 
big 
> bars, the mystery of how they get the filling inside truffles, and fill 
the 
> hearts of all but Philistines with desire, call unto thy soul to arise 
and 
> come unto me.  For I am the soul of candy, from me do all confections 
> spring, 
> and unto me all of you shall return, again...and again...and again...and 
> again. 
>  
> Before me smeared faces, beloved of women and men, thine innermost divine 
> self shall be enfolded in the rapture of overdose.  Let my taste be 
within 
> thy mouth that rejoices.  For behold, all acts of yumminess and pleasure 
> are 
> my rituals. 
>  
> Therefore let there be gooeyness and mess, crispness and crackling, big 
> slabs 
> and bite size pieces, peanut butter and chocolate-covered cherries all 
> within 
> you.  And you who think to seek me, know that your seeking and yearning 
> shall 
> avail you not unless you know the Mystery:  "We shall sell no chocolate 
> until 
> you pay for it."  For behold: I have been with you since you were just a 
> baby, and I am that which is attained at nearly any shop in the land. 
> Messed 
> be. 
>  
> SWISS MISS: Hear now the words of the Chocolate God, who was called 
> Ghirardelli, Milton Snavely Hershey, Bosco, Fudgesicle, and by many other 
> names: 
>  
> HP: I am the strength of the candy rack, and the piece that fell on the 
> floor 
> but looks like it may not have gotten too dirty, and the deepest 
bitterness 
> of dark chocolate.  No matter how you try to resist the call for 
chocolate, 
> I 
> will hunt you out, and I will become your sacred prey.  I am warmth of 
hot 
> cocoa in the dead of winter, and the call of the road that leads you to 
> that 
> really expensive Godiva store downtown. 
>  
> I give you my creatures, the fire of love of chocolate, the power of jaw 
> strength to bite off a piece of that frozen Milky Way bar and the shelter 
> of 
> Haagen Dazs when that big date didn't work out.  You are dear to me, and 
I 
> instill in you my power of a piece of chocolate that you had forgotten 
you 
> had hidden, and the power of vision and magical sight with which you can 
> spot 
> a candy counter a mile away.  By the powers of the half-melted bar in the 
> glorious sun, I charge you, by the darkest depths of the bottom of the 
> cocoa 
> pot and lingering smell of bittersweet chocolate, I charge you, and by 
the 
> beauty of a perfectly swirled vanilla butter cream, I charge you. 
>  
> Follow your heart and your instinct, wherever they lead you. The wealth 
in 
> your pocket can buy you treats that a Mayan kin would envy.  Take joy in 
> that 
> first bite of lecithin emulsified cocoa, and in the last satisfying slurp 
> of 
> Yoo-Hoo. 
>  
> Yet you must be wary of deceit.  Eat not of that which is called "Baking 
> Chocolate," for it is vile and bitter.  Be not greedy, but let yourself 
be 
> known as a connoisseur.  Leave a little for someone else. 
>  
> I am with you always, just over your shoulder, or around the next corner. 
> I 
> am the Lord of Chocolate, and when you have reached the end of your 
hoard, 
> I 
> will never be further away from you than that 7-11 on the corner.  I am 
the 
> spirit of the wild child, the inner child who can never get quite enough. 
>  
> If you are a true chocolate lover, then your soul and mine are 
intertwined. 
>  
>  
> CUPCAKES AND YOO-HOO 
>   (Blessing of the Yoo-Hoo) 
>  
> HP:  Be it known that milk chocolate is not better than dark chocolate. 
> HPS: Nor is dark chocolate better than milk chocolate. 
> HP:  For both are better than the falsely named "white Chocolate." 
> HPS: And neither is carob. 
> HP:  As the frosting is to the cupcake. 
> HPS: So the creamy nougat is to the Milky Way bar. 
> Both:  And when they are eaten, they are yummy in truth, for there is 
>        no greater snack in all the world than one made of chocolate. 
>  
>   (Blessing of the cupcakes) 
>  
> HP:  Frosting is keen. 
> HPS: And frosting is neat. 
> BOTH:  Great Goddess!  Let us eat! 
>  
> (Feasting and Drinking) 
>  
> Dismiss the quarters: 
>  
> HPS:  Oh, ye mighty goodies for the ______, we thank you for attending 
> our rites and guarding our circle, and ere you depart for your sweet and 
> sticky realms, we say unto you, "N-E-S-T-L-E-S, Nestles makes the very 
> best." 
>  
> ALL:  Chooooooooc-laaaaate 
>  
> (After all quarters have been dismissed, give a final satisfying belch 
> at the east) 
>  
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 14:04:37 -0500 
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Subject: Re: Flute's site 
Message-ID: <3479CFC5.61DBATnospamacad.bryant.edu> 
 
To learn about genuine Kundalini awakening leading to superconscious 
states and enlightenment, read Dr. Harsh K. Luthar's paper titled: 
 
"The Spiritual Experience and the Awakening of  
Kundalini Shakti in Tantra Yoga:  
Meditation and Pranayama In the Context of Love and Sensuality"
 
The paper may be read on the following sites:
 
Frans: http://www.telebyte.nl/~frans/kundalini/harsh.html
 
Freda: http://www.blarg.net/~freda/01rg/hm/harsh.htm
 
ori^: http://www.eskimo.com/~ori/luthar.html
 
The goal of the paper is to clarify the confusion surrounding the topic 
of Kundalini. It contains important cautions and comments regarding the 
practice of Kundalini Yoga. There are no products to sell. Only pure 
spiritual knowledge is offered with a grateful heart. 
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 12:39:41 -0600 (CST) 
From: hbarrettATnospamix.netcom.com (Holly N. Barrett, Ph.D.) 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: Help, suggestions please.  LONG 
Message-Id: <199711241839.MAA11050ATnospamdfw-ix11.ix.netcom.com>
 
I never get tired of reading stories about somebody waking up.  Thank  
you!  I think Jason is right in suggesting that there is already a  
communication line between you and said person.  I also think that  
since God/dess has gotten you this far, she'll let you know what you  
are to do with what you have seen.  What k is about (and I say this as  
much to myself as I do to you) is surrender, surrender, surrender.   
Some days I realize I've hardly begun to understand what is really  
asked of us here.  Holly
 
p.s. wasn't the body change/losing weight part fun?! 
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 15:12:21 -0600 
From: amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: Help, suggestions please. 
Message-ID: <1331738081-1947130ATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us> 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
 
Holly wrote:
 
>p.s. wasn't the body change/losing weight part fun?!
 
Oh how fondly I remember that! The way I looked, I mean. The process was 
sheer terror (which is apparently what it takes to get me to stop enjoying 
food, LOL). I think I was on my way to dematerializing, which is why those 
around me began expressing alarm. Unfortunately, I gained all my weight 
back, and then some, after I quit smoking. Now I must look upon myself as 
more of an "earth goddess", than the wraithlike spirit I was perhaps 
unconsciously aiming for... C'est la vie.
 
amckeon
 
 
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