1997/11/21 14:42
kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #760
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 97 : Issue 760
Today's Topics:
Another perspective [ E Jason <vv60ATnospamdial.pipex.com> ]
Deja Vu [ "Wehbi, M. (Rachid)" <RACHID.WEHBIATnospam ]
Re: Another perspective [ "Harsh K. Luthar" <hlutharATnospambryant1. ]
Free quicky Reading [ FIute <FIuteATnospamprodigy.net> ]
Re: HRTZEN: thoughts by age [ Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.co ]
Digest 759 - Soliciting [ Ruth Trimble <trimbleATnospamhawaii.edu> ]
Do what you Love [ Ruth Trimble <trimbleATnospamhawaii.edu> ]
Re: Monksville or bust [ John Meyer <merlinATnospampnn.com> ]
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 13:11:57 -0800
From: E Jason <vv60ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
To: OCCULTHAVENATnospamHOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Another perspective
Message-ID: <3475F91D.7C0EATnospamdial.pipex.com>
Tonight, CBS-TV broadcast a "48 Minutes" show featuring a "reading" by
a prominent "psychic." I was brought to New York some weeks back to
see the segment and to comment on it. The viewing audience saw a
sanitized version of the session that omitted many important factors.
Here is an account of what actually took place during 60 minutes of a
very weak attempt at psychic flummery....
----------------------------------------
THE ACTUAL READING....
(Figures in parentheses indicate the elapsed time in a one-hour-long
reading.)
Van Praag began with a prayer designed to establish that this is
a religious exercise, and he established that interruptions or doubts
are not encouraged. Next, he provided loopholes for his failures to
guess correctly: he said that he might "get" a message from any of a
multitude of entities out there -- he said there were hundreds -- and
he often just can't sort them out. (0:47) He said that they all "come
through" at once, and confuse him. He warned (01.20) that skepticism
slows things down, makes things difficult. He said that he would only
"get" what "they" would give him, so he should not be blamed for
errors, and that if he is wrong, he will ask the spirits to "refine"
the facts for him.
This reader is typical of the profession. He works with
stereotypes and generalizations. Expressions like "Who is....?" are
used frequently and are very general, and require the victim to fill
in the details. They can be narrowed down quickly and then they
appear to be specific. Heart disease and cancer are the two
predominate causes of death in middle-aged or older persons. He tried
and hit on both these, in this reading. Glaringly obvious and quite
safe scenarios were offered: "Many times you've felt that you're
alone." (4.45) "Are there stairs in the house?" (16.20) Quoting the
spirit of the husband, after the woman said her husband sometimes gave
her jewelry, and that she was pleased by this act: "She used to love
it when I gave her jewelry." (22.10)
He tentatively suggested something many times, and when he got a
"no," he passed right on. But if it was a "yes," he quickly invented
a clear, direct word-for-word quote from the spirit that expresses
this "hit," and delivers it: (9.06) "He's very strong, and I'm not
sure what.... Is this your husband?" "Yes" "Cause he just said,
'Husband, I'm her husband, I'm her husband.' Okay?" And, (21.10)
"Was he in the hospital before he passed over, please? "Yes."
"Because he's talking about being in the hospital before he passed
over." "Did he die in a hospital?" "Yes." "It's like, I'm waiting
for him to come through with this.....Yeah! I died there! He says he
died there."
As with all these operators, he constantly asked questions,
requiring the victim to establish a connection between what he said,
and something in her life. It's her failure to find a connection that
made the "misses."
When he got a direct, unequivocal "no," he told the victim to "Keep
that," as if the connection would later become evident, which it never
did. (5.45) "She's mentioning something about the head area, here.
Have there been headaches, problems with headaches? Do you know about
that?" "No." "Okay. Who had trouble with the head? Ah... head
problem, or past the head condition? Like a quick head problem?" "I
don't know." "You're not aware of that. Keep that, please." And he
rushed on, never coming back to this bad guess.
Typically, in these scams, the victim is portrayed as a person of
virtue, and the reader used that ploy, too. (9.45) "You've always
been there for everyone else. And you're not there for yourself.
You're very good at helping other people, and taking care of people's
problems. And always there for other people but not for yourself."
etc.
He offered very common names or simply initials, as well as
expected events, and the victim tried to make them fit. In this
reading, he tried 25 common names, in less than 60 minutes:
(Alphabetically: Ben. Bernie. Betty. Bob. Fran. Frank. Frankie.
Howard. Howie. Jack. Jackie. Joe. Joey. John. Joseph. Lillian.
Lilly. Linda. Liz. Lizzie. Lynn. Marie. Mary. Rob. Robert.
This fact, that he guessed so badly, was not introduced on the "48
Hours" show.
Other can't-lose guesses he threw out were: New York City,
Brooklyn, birthday, anniversary, reading newspapers in the morning,
glasses, cooking, then the initials H, J, and L, which could be for
names of people, cities, anything.
A common technique which he used is to give the victim back
material that was already developed or already known. For example, 30
minutes into the reading, he gave her "Long Island," which he was
already told about before the session started.
His specific guesses missed badly. (18.20) He tried for a
Cadillac, any Cadillac, belonging to anyone, past, present, or future,
and missed. (18.00) He guessed she has a son; she doesn't. (20.20)
He tried for legal problems with the husband's will, and failed.
(34.00) He assured her she'll have a message waiting for her at home
from a Lynn or a Linda. It didn't happen. She didn't find the watch
set at 3 o'clock in that second drawer that he assured her she'd find.
He's obviously experienced in his trade. When the victim slipped
and mentioned her husband's name, Jack, he wisely saved it until
later, at which point, eleven minutes later, he suddenly "got" a large
letter "J" and then "Jack" fifteen minutes later.
He tried standard ploys. Female persons of this age range are
very likely to have inherited a piece of jewelry from a deceased
relative. As soon as he learned that the victim's mother was dead
(she told him this), he tried for that jewelry "hit," but it was
denied. Even though he came back to it later, he still didn't get it
accepted. And knowing that the victim's mother was dead, he naturally
threw in the grandmother, too. A person of this age is unlikely to
have a living grandmother. The fact that he says the two women were
"close," is hardly miraculous.
Another common gimmick in this scam: he quickly followed a guess
with the question "Do you understand?" all in one fluid sentence,
getting a "yes" response. The "yes" will always follow such an
attempt, but it's an answer that says, "Yes, I understand what you've
said or what you're talking about." However, the strong impression is
that it's an affirmation of the guess, not of the understanding.
When we can't see the face of the victim continuously as in this
taping we can't know how much nodding (affirming or denying) is taking
place. This subject, when we did see her face, appeared to give such
clues freely; it's polite and quite natural to do so, especially when
the reader is always asking for a response by his inflection or by his
non-verbal facial expressions. Usually, the victim will tend to give
a blank reaction if the reader is not going in the right direction,
and a "yes" nod or actual verbal agreement, when he is. Thus, we can
get many more "yes" responses than are really evidential.
There were two predictions made by the "psychic." He said,
"There was a watch....oh, the watch. He's saying it's a
watch.... something to do with 3 o'clock.....There's a box at your
house that has a watch of his in it.... second drawer down. Pull it
out." He said she'd find this watch when she went home. This did not
happen, but we were not told this. He also said there would be a
message from a Linda or a Lillian awaiting her when she got home.
There was no such message waiting, but we were not told that, either.
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Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 11:14:00 -0500
From: "Wehbi, M. (Rachid)" <RACHID.WEHBIATnospamROYALBANK.COM>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Deja Vu
Message-Id: <199711211623.KAA08438ATnospamb.mx.execpc.com>
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Hello all,
Something strange has been happening to me and I am looking for
any
kind of input on the matter. Most people, to my knowledge,
"normally"
experience a Deja Vu about 2 to 3 times a year. That was the
frequency by which I used to experience it. Over the last year,
the
rate by which I have been experiencing it has sky rocketed. Now,
on
average, I have about 2-5 Deja vus a week!
I have heard a scientific explanation to the "occurrence". as
far
as I understand it, it basically says that a deja vu is a "trick"
your
mind plays on you. It is a synchronization "glitch" between your
conscious mind you your subconconsious etc... (more confusion
ensues
etc...)
What is puzzling me (in an enjoyable kind of way) is the
frequency of
this occurrence. It has driven me to find spiritual significance
in the
matter (of which I will not bore you with here).
Any medical/spiritual insights, jokes, ideas etc... are welcome :)
Rachid.
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 13:14:23 -0500
From: "Harsh K. Luthar" <hlutharATnospambryant1.bryant.edu>
To: E Jason <vv60ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
CC: OCCULTHAVENATnospamHOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Another perspective
Message-ID: <3475CF7F.185ATnospamacad.bryant.edu>
No doubt, it is a spiritual circus out there. People crave excitement.
This craving does not end even when one enters the spiritual path. As a
child growing up in India, I witnessed "levitations," "miracle cures"
and other "great feats of the body and mind." Some were authentic, most
were tricks. True spirituality manifests in our everyday ordinary life
and has little to do with physical and psychic powers.
Harsh K. Luthar
E Jason wrote:
>
> Tonight, CBS-TV broadcast a "48 Minutes" show featuring a "reading" by
> a prominent "psychic." I was brought to New York some weeks back to
> see the segment and to comment on it. The viewing audience saw a
> sanitized version of the session that omitted many important factors.
> Here is an account of what actually took place during 60 minutes of a
> very weak attempt at psychic flummery....
>
> ----------------------------------------
> THE ACTUAL READING....
>
> (Figures in parentheses indicate the elapsed time in a one-hour-long
> reading.)
>
> Van Praag began with a prayer designed to establish that this is
> a religious exercise, and he established that interruptions or doubts
> are not encouraged. Next, he provided loopholes for his failures to
> guess correctly: he said that he might "get" a message from any of a
> multitude of entities out there -- he said there were hundreds -- and
> he often just can't sort them out. (0:47) He said that they all "come
> through" at once, and confuse him. He warned (01.20) that skepticism
> slows things down, makes things difficult. He said that he would only
> "get" what "they" would give him, so he should not be blamed for
> errors, and that if he is wrong, he will ask the spirits to "refine"
> the facts for him.
> This reader is typical of the profession. He works with
> stereotypes and generalizations. Expressions like "Who is....?" are
> used frequently and are very general, and require the victim to fill
> in the details. They can be narrowed down quickly and then they
> appear to be specific. Heart disease and cancer are the two
> predominate causes of death in middle-aged or older persons. He tried
> and hit on both these, in this reading. Glaringly obvious and quite
> safe scenarios were offered: "Many times you've felt that you're
> alone." (4.45) "Are there stairs in the house?" (16.20) Quoting the
> spirit of the husband, after the woman said her husband sometimes gave
> her jewelry, and that she was pleased by this act: "She used to love
> it when I gave her jewelry." (22.10)
> He tentatively suggested something many times, and when he got a
> "no," he passed right on. But if it was a "yes," he quickly invented
> a clear, direct word-for-word quote from the spirit that expresses
> this "hit," and delivers it: (9.06) "He's very strong, and I'm not
> sure what.... Is this your husband?" "Yes" "Cause he just said,
> 'Husband, I'm her husband, I'm her husband.' Okay?" And, (21.10)
> "Was he in the hospital before he passed over, please? "Yes."
> "Because he's talking about being in the hospital before he passed
> over." "Did he die in a hospital?" "Yes." "It's like, I'm waiting
> for him to come through with this.....Yeah! I died there! He says he
> died there."
> As with all these operators, he constantly asked questions,
> requiring the victim to establish a connection between what he said,
> and something in her life. It's her failure to find a connection that
> made the "misses."
>
> When he got a direct, unequivocal "no," he told the victim to "Keep
> that," as if the connection would later become evident, which it never
> did. (5.45) "She's mentioning something about the head area, here.
> Have there been headaches, problems with headaches? Do you know about
> that?" "No." "Okay. Who had trouble with the head? Ah... head
> problem, or past the head condition? Like a quick head problem?" "I
> don't know." "You're not aware of that. Keep that, please." And he
> rushed on, never coming back to this bad guess.
> Typically, in these scams, the victim is portrayed as a person of
> virtue, and the reader used that ploy, too. (9.45) "You've always
> been there for everyone else. And you're not there for yourself.
> You're very good at helping other people, and taking care of people's
> problems. And always there for other people but not for yourself."
> etc.
> He offered very common names or simply initials, as well as
> expected events, and the victim tried to make them fit. In this
> reading, he tried 25 common names, in less than 60 minutes:
> (Alphabetically: Ben. Bernie. Betty. Bob. Fran. Frank. Frankie.
> Howard. Howie. Jack. Jackie. Joe. Joey. John. Joseph. Lillian.
> Lilly. Linda. Liz. Lizzie. Lynn. Marie. Mary. Rob. Robert.
> This fact, that he guessed so badly, was not introduced on the "48
> Hours" show.
> Other can't-lose guesses he threw out were: New York City,
> Brooklyn, birthday, anniversary, reading newspapers in the morning,
> glasses, cooking, then the initials H, J, and L, which could be for
> names of people, cities, anything.
> A common technique which he used is to give the victim back
> material that was already developed or already known. For example, 30
> minutes into the reading, he gave her "Long Island," which he was
> already told about before the session started.
> His specific guesses missed badly. (18.20) He tried for a
> Cadillac, any Cadillac, belonging to anyone, past, present, or future,
> and missed. (18.00) He guessed she has a son; she doesn't. (20.20)
> He tried for legal problems with the husband's will, and failed.
> (34.00) He assured her she'll have a message waiting for her at home
> from a Lynn or a Linda. It didn't happen. She didn't find the watch
> set at 3 o'clock in that second drawer that he assured her she'd find.
> He's obviously experienced in his trade. When the victim slipped
> and mentioned her husband's name, Jack, he wisely saved it until
> later, at which point, eleven minutes later, he suddenly "got" a large
> letter "J" and then "Jack" fifteen minutes later.
> He tried standard ploys. Female persons of this age range are
> very likely to have inherited a piece of jewelry from a deceased
> relative. As soon as he learned that the victim's mother was dead
> (she told him this), he tried for that jewelry "hit," but it was
> denied. Even though he came back to it later, he still didn't get it
> accepted. And knowing that the victim's mother was dead, he naturally
> threw in the grandmother, too. A person of this age is unlikely to
> have a living grandmother. The fact that he says the two women were
> "close," is hardly miraculous.
> Another common gimmick in this scam: he quickly followed a guess
> with the question "Do you understand?" all in one fluid sentence,
> getting a "yes" response. The "yes" will always follow such an
> attempt, but it's an answer that says, "Yes, I understand what you've
> said or what you're talking about." However, the strong impression is
> that it's an affirmation of the guess, not of the understanding.
> When we can't see the face of the victim continuously as in this
> taping we can't know how much nodding (affirming or denying) is taking
> place. This subject, when we did see her face, appeared to give such
> clues freely; it's polite and quite natural to do so, especially when
> the reader is always asking for a response by his inflection or by his
> non-verbal facial expressions. Usually, the victim will tend to give
> a blank reaction if the reader is not going in the right direction,
> and a "yes" nod or actual verbal agreement, when he is. Thus, we can
> get many more "yes" responses than are really evidential.
> There were two predictions made by the "psychic." He said,
> "There was a watch....oh, the watch. He's saying it's a
> watch.... something to do with 3 o'clock.....There's a box at your
> house that has a watch of his in it.... second drawer down. Pull it
> out." He said she'd find this watch when she went home. This did not
> happen, but we were not told this. He also said there would be a
> message from a Linda or a Lillian awaiting her when she got home.
> There was no such message waiting, but we were not told that, either.
>
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> U.S.A.
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 12:16:10 -0600
From: FIute <FIuteATnospamprodigy.net>
To: "kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Free quicky Reading
Message-ID: <3475CFEA.1A55ATnospamprodigy.net>
Ok.. if anyone wants a free reading..and it will be just about
a page. send me a note..
Tell me if you want something general or if you have a specific
question.
I'll be using tarot, just in case your interested.. or I Ching if you
like.. grin
Love,
flute
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 11:52:32 +0100
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
To: E Jason <vv60ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
CC: tariqasATnospamworld.std.com, SuficlassATnospamnv.net, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com,
insight <insightATnospamworld.std.com>, heartzenATnospamlistserv.servtech.com,
OCCULTHAVENATnospamHOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM, hari_patelATnospamlondonelec.co.uk,
gmanchaATnospamsrvnt1.upco.es, rhavyATnospamglobalnet.co.uk, gbsphcmjATnospamibmmail.com,
Anold Lloyd <a.lloydATnospamnetmatters.co.uk>
Subject: Re: HRTZEN: thoughts by age
Message-ID: <347567EF.10C7ATnospamintercomm.com>
E Jason wrote:
Gloria responds to the contempaltion of life...
Ed, this is great, are you really 92? If so, we love having your wisdom
at our fingers. If you are not, we still love having it. Gloria
>
> Subject: Contemplating Life...
>
> I've learned that silent company is often more healing than words of
> advice.
> Age 24
>
> I've learned that if someone says something unkind about me, I must live
> so that no one will believe it.
> Age 39
>
> I've learned that just when I get my room the way I like it, Mom makes me
> clean it up.
> Age 13
>
> I've learned that children and grandparents are natural allies.
> Age 46
>
> I've learned that even when I have pains, I don't have to be one.
> Age 82
>
> I've learned that if you pursue happiness, it will elude you. But if you
> focus on your family, the needs of others, your work, meeting new people,
> and doing the very best you can, happiness will find you.
> Age 65
>
> I've learned that motel mattresses are better on the side away from the
> phone.
> Age 50
>
> I've learned that regardless of your relationship with your parents, you
> miss them terribly after they die.
> Age 53
>
> I've learned that you can't hide a piece of broccoli in a glass of milk.
> Age 7
>
> I've learned that the greater a person's sense of guilt, the greater his
> need to cast blame on others.
> Age 46
>
> I've learned that life sometimes gives you a second chance.
> Age 62
>
> I've learned that it pays to believe in miracles. And to tell the truth,
> I've seen several.
> Age 73
>
> I've learned that you shouldn't go through life with a catchers mitt on
> both hands. you need to be able to throw something back.
> Age 64
>
> I've learned that brushing my child's hair is one of life's great
> pleasures.
> Age 29
>
> I've learned that wherever I go, the world?s worst drivers have followed
> me there.
> Age 29
>
> I've learned that singing "Amazing Grace" can lift my spirits for hours.
> Age 49
>
> I've learned that you can make someone's day by simply sending them a
> little card.
> Age 44
>
> I've learned that if you want to cheer yourself up, you should try
> cheering someone else up.
> Age 13
>
> I've learned that when I wave to people in the country, they stop what
> they are doing and wave back.
> Age 9
>
> I've learned that although it's hard to admit it, I'm secretly glad my
> parents are strict with me.
> Age 15
>
> I've learned that you can tell a lot about a man by the way he handles
> these three things: a rainy day, lost luggage, and tangled Christmas tree
> lights.
> Age 52
>
> I've learned that whenever I decide something with kindness, I usually
> make the right decision.
> Age 66
>
> I've learned that if you want to do something positive for your children,
> try to improve your marriage.
> Age 61
>
> I've learned that making a living is not the same thing as making a life.
> Age 58
>
> I've learned that everyone can use a prayer.
> Age 72
>
> I've learned that I like my teacher because she cries when we sing
> "Silent Night".
> Age 7
>
> I've learned that there are people who love you dearly but just don't
> know how to show it.
> Age 41
>
> I've learned that every day you should reach out and touch someone.
> People love that human touch--holding hands, a warm hug, or just a friendly pat
> on the back.
> Age 85
>
> I've learned that I still have a lot to learn.
> Age 92
--
Enter The Silence to Know God ... and... accept life as the teacher.
Gloria Joy Greco
e-mail me at : lodpressATnospamintercomm.com and visit our homepages at:
http://users.intercomm.com/larryn/
&
http://www.freeyellow.com/members/zg888/
Hope you enjoy them!
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 11:00:37 -1000
From: Ruth Trimble <trimbleATnospamhawaii.edu>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
cc: kundalini-l-dATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Digest 759 - Soliciting
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95q.971121105802.13333D-100000ATnospamuhunix2>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
I am a bit shocked Madame that you let this solitication/advertising/scam
/schemes material into our somewhat hallowed lists! REF: Digest
759...untitled.
Tut tut!
*****
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 11:31:01 -1000
From: Ruth Trimble <trimbleATnospamhawaii.edu>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Do what you Love
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95q.971121111119.13333e-100000ATnospamuhunix2>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Hi Dan
I hear your message about trying to make a living doing what you love
which is Kundalini and Psychology instead of mechanical engineering. I
teach English as a Second Language and composition.. somehow though I
teach a LOT more than this. I teach them a way to be... I have no degree
in psychology, but like you I love K and Spirit. Through teaching my
students about writing and English there are every single day ways that I
shape their realities. With students from Asia it is a lot easier to talk
about consciousness, etc. than it is the locals, but non-the-less I teach
things with a flavor which opens up their awareness to other ways of
seeing reality. For example, when I teach how to argue in an essay.. I
mention the "western" approach (or the John Wayne) approach which will
alienate your opponent / opposite and you will not be able to persuade
them to change or see your side. So I present the "eastern" approach
which is see your opponent as potential energy/momentum which you use for
your advantage an then when he is not expecting your agreement or
compliance, turn tables on him and he is on the floor defeated!... the
sort of Kung Fu approach! In discussing the martial arts approach I get
into Chi and Ki (aka Kundalini) and they suddenly find themselves confused
and overwhelmed by the amazing idea that there is subtle energy running
around their bodies that they never knew about... A whole paradigm shift
takes place when I prove they have chi.. by making them work with partners
to find it.
Here is how : Have two people work together. One person (A)is the active
one and one (B) will just serve as a barrier. The barrier one(B) puts his
arm out to prevent the other from walking past a certain point.. firm but
not brutal.
So Then the active one(A) is told "Walk past B but be thinking of
something that might attack from your behind." So they demonstrate this
and A is quickly knocked off the feet by B- barrier.
Then say "Now walk past B but the thinking of some wonderful goal ahead of
you." This is demonstrated and amazingly they push right through B's
barrier without any problem. LESSON "Where the attention goes, the energy
flows." This is a mind blower for many people in the west.
I also have a professor research scientist friend who wants to do more
with consciousness and we got together and formed a group to raise
consciousness among scientists of the interrelatedness of their fields and
that of religion and psychology etc.. and we have only had one meeting
and alreayd we have a grant from Inst. of Noetic Sciences so that my
friend will be doing experimenbts next semester on "Intention in Plant
Pathology" or something like that.. i.e. prayers affecting plants. He is
thrilled that he can now incorporate his interest in spirit to his job.
Try this.. the time is HERE...
PS I am now out of the closet here with my ability to heal over the
internet. I was afraid... but a crew from the local TV station filmed
me yesterday in front of my computer and talking about how I help people
from the internet... phew.. this is something I knwo spirit wanted me to
do...and I just had to submerge my fears to do it.
So all those of you who have been helped...helped make this happen...
particularly Marsha... Hope you are still on line! I read one of your
letters on the air about how much help it was to you.
Blessings everyone... Hope to catch up on my mail now Thanksgiving is
almost here. Ruth
*****
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 13:34:03 -0800 (PST)
From: John Meyer <merlinATnospampnn.com>
To: Am <heidiATnospamadan.kingston.net>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Monksville or bust
Message-Id: <199711212134.NAA17073ATnospampnn.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Am wrote:
>
>Creating an OASIS in the home? You bet! i adore walking or sitting in
>forests, hence i decorated my tiny living room according to its colours. My
>bedroom is decorated in the colours of spring. My pets are my plants and my
>knick-knack are the collected small rocks sitting on my windowsill.
>
My livingroom is tastefully decorated with large teenagers, muddy dogs,
school projects and the occasional beamish toddler. my daughter's half dead
plants adorn the windowsills, and books festoon all other available surfaces.
For peace and centering, I walk the earth as if my feet were making love to
it. Usually it takes a while to get to that state, though. LOL. No end of
challenges in walking this way as a householder/spouse/mom!
love and peace, Am and all others. I couldn't resist inserting my current
reality here.
Blythe
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