Kundalini Gateway Email List Archives

line

1997/11/07 01:42
kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #734


kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 97 : Issue 734

Today's Topics:
  Re: to obfuscation at the border [ amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us ]
  Re: to obfuscation at the border [ "Sharon Webb" <shawebbATnospamyhc.edu> ]
  Re: Thoughts. [ amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us ]
  Re: to obfuscation at the border [ "Debora A. Orf" <dorf01ATnospammail.win.or ]
  Re: Thoughts. [ "Debora A. Orf" <dorf01ATnospammail.win.or ]
  Monkey Business [ amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us ]
  Re: REIKI [ "Debora A. Orf" <dorf01ATnospammail.win.or ]
  Re: WE ARE ONE! [ Carlos Alberto Russomanno <bcomputo ]
  Re: Reiki [ amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us ]
  Re: Thoughts. [ M <chooseagainATnospamthegrid.net> ]
  Re: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource [ "F. Drew " <leydaATnospamvalunet.com> ]
  Re: piercing the rudra knot [ "F. Drew " <leydaATnospamvalunet.com> ]
  new to list [ aman <amanATnospamwaena.edu> (by way of My ]
  unsubscribe [ DKharyATnospamaol.com ]
  yet another newbie [ merlinATnospampnn.com ]
  Just checking [ Ruth Trimble <trimbleATnospamhawaii.edu> ]
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 17:59:36 -0600
From: amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: to obfuscation at the border
Message-ID: <1333279980-576338ATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

dante *ASS*umed poetically:

>Craving the intensity of roller coaster rides,
>what could be a bigger rush than to go from
>LIGHT to SHADOW and back to LIGHT again?
>It sure beats watching T.V.

No way; tv is pretty damn good these days.

>This also is Tantra.

It is? I must not be doing it right.

>Metaphysical drama junkies:
>thats what we are!

Be sure and *smile* when ya say "WE" there, hombre!

>If we really wanted to stay home,
>I guess we would.

If "we" were independently wealthy (spiritually as well as materially), we
damn sure would spend a lot more time at "home", studying the universe and
exploring inner space. It is always the "work" that calls us away. It is
not an adventure, it is a drudgery.

>Its undignified for a committed traveller
>to always be whining that they wished they were sitting quietly at home.
>Have a little self respect.

It is undignified for a committed spiritual seeker to be so lacking in
compassion. Have a little less smugness.

>But jeez! some people sure have a big appetite for shadows!

"Some people" have an even bigger appetite for pointing out the
shadows of others.

>Its good to have vacations, though,
>just resting in the light and recharging,
>slipping back into Oneness, but not quite,

Sounds like an archaic form of birth control, what was that... "oneness
interruptus"?

>and then at the last moment diving down again into manifestation.

It must be pure magic at your house.

>Metaphysical drama junkie deep sea pearl divers!
>That's what we are!

Speaking for myself, if I were a drama junkie I would bore myself. It all
becomes so tedious and predictable. I prefer stories I do not yet know the
ending to.

The next time you want to insult someone at least have the courage to be
direct about it. (Perhaps you could get some pointers from the Lobster....)

amckeon
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 19:10:20 -0500
From: "Sharon Webb" <shawebbATnospamyhc.edu>
To: <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: to obfuscation at the border
Message-Id: <199711070021.TAA21122ATnospamhoboken>

amckeon,

My goodness!!!! Did we read the same post? Or did a gremlin get into
yours?

Dante,

I liked it very much. :-)

Sharon
shawebbATnospamyhc.edu
A new fractal gallery was posted to this site on September 10th:
http://home1.gte.net/itriazon/Sharon.htm
USA Today Hot Site; Cosmic Site of the Night: Cool Central Site of the Day;
ENC Digital Dozen for June '97; Enchantment Award; ArtSearch Featured Site;
NetTech NeatTech: Best of the Web in Educational Technology; Eye Candy
Honorable Mention

----------
> From: amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us
> To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
> Subject: Re: to obfuscation at the border
> Date: Thursday, November 06, 1997 6:59 PM
>
> dante *ASS*umed poetically:
>
> >Craving the intensity of roller coaster rides,
> >what could be a bigger rush than to go from
> >LIGHT to SHADOW and back to LIGHT again?
> >It sure beats watching T.V.

et cetera............
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 18:19:16 -0600
From: amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Thoughts.
Message-ID: <1333278800-647337ATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Debora Orf wrote:

>Bliss is wonderful, but its just a piece of the puzzle no? if it doesn't
>work on the level of ordinary human interactions eventually...then why do
>it?

My bliss helps me to feel that I am on the right path, that I am in tune with
my destiny, that I am being the real me. When I am not in my bliss (99% of
the time), I know I am wearing the usual masks I must wear in order to
function in the world.

You are correct in saying that the above does not *directly* do that much
for other people... But I have had professors that have taken me aside to
tell me what a joy I am to have in their classroom. Because they can tell
that I am listening! They are there to teach and I am there to learn. I
help them fulfill their purpose.

And I am a better companion to my husband when I am happy. He sees me glow
and says "You must have had a good day." Seeing me happy adds to his
happiness.

>My life is more centered and daily normal 'boring'
>activities are just--things that have to be done and there is a certain
>joy in doing them. Vacuumming the steps just for the sake of the steps
>needing vacuuming.

If you can find joy in vacuuming you are much more spiritually advanced
than I am. I have not yet learned to transcend boredom. I only know how to
avoid activities that bring it on. Like vacuumming!

If your daily practice helps you to be centered and to transcend boredom,
I'd say you are doing something right! Not to worry.

sincerely,
amckeon
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 18:17:53 -0600 (CST)
From: "Debora A. Orf" <dorf01ATnospammail.win.org>
To: amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us
cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: to obfuscation at the border
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.971106180757.12611B-100000ATnospamwinc0>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

On Thu, 6 Nov 1997 amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us wrote:

> No way; tv is pretty damn good these days.
>
> >This also is Tantra.
>
> It is? I must not be doing it right.

seconding that thought. I've noticed a few posts referring to "Tantra".
i'm not sure where folks are getting data from, but from what i know, its
secret, powerful, and not always sexual.
 
We should take care with it, and not reveal things that people have not
had prelims for etc. There are lots of things that require initiation and
are NOT for the curious. They also require a skilled guru and lots of love
and willingness to evolve.

i'm also a tad sensitive right now. So please forgive if i've reacted too
strongly. Brain reacting to a slight overacting heart center again :).

love & light & maitri,

-dao (Jampa Tsomo)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 18:30:14 -0600 (CST)
From: "Debora A. Orf" <dorf01ATnospammail.win.org>
To: amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us
cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Thoughts.
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.971106182030.12611C-100000ATnospamwinc0>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

On Thu, 6 Nov 1997 amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us wrote:

>
> My bliss helps me to feel that I am on the right path, that I am in tune with
> my destiny, that I am being the real me. When I am not in my bliss (99% of
> the time), I know I am wearing the usual masks I must wear in order to
> function in the world.
>
> You are correct in saying that the above does not *directly* do that much
> for other people... But I have had professors that have taken me aside to
> tell me what a joy I am to have in their classroom. Because they can tell
> that I am listening! They are there to teach and I am there to learn. I
> help them fulfill their purpose.
>
> And I am a better companion to my husband when I am happy. He sees me glow
> and says "You must have had a good day." Seeing me happy adds to his
> happiness.

ah! sounds nice :). Joy is a sign of a developing spirit as i have heard.

by 'bliss' i meant the um--what i call explosions of great joy/bliss/light
that happen in meditation sometimes. Sustained joy is another thing
altogether. it can be taken off the cushion and yes--it is a wonderful
help.

'mudita' or sympathetic joy is one of the 4 boundless states. To take joy
in another's joy sort of thing. Wishing i could do it more often :). I'm a
bit too self-centered most of the time tho. But if one is rooted in ones
own joy, as seperate from 'pleasure', the world is --well, wonderful!

> If you can find joy in vacuuming you are much more spiritually advanced
> than I am. I have not yet learned to transcend boredom. I only know how to
> avoid activities that bring it on. Like vacuumming!

You have me laughing. This is wonderful! i'm not advanced anything. I just
used to hate housework so much i sorta decided that i did not have to do
that as much. I work at an office 40 hrs a week. Vacuuming is mindless
enough i can make a meditation of it if i'm in the right mode and you'd be
surprised how quickly it gets done. Ever try to just really VACUUM?

Zen master Thich Nhat Hanh in 'peace is every step' gives a similar
approach to doing dishes. I have a dishwasher, and vacuuming is more of a
'chore' than dishes.

anyway,

enough rambling :)

take care, light & lovejoy :)

--dao
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 18:37:07 -0600
From: amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us
To: M <chooseagainATnospamthegrid.net>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Monkey Business
Message-ID: <1333277729-711767ATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

M wrote:

>I too have a hard time with this kind of talk. Food is only of minor
>interest to me and I just endure talk of it. Also, I have just read -
>someplace respectable - that gossip is for humans similar to, and a
>replacement for, the 20% of the day that lower primates spend in mutual
>grooming. Gossip performs the same functions...encourages close
>relationships, promotes group solidarity and fosters a heirarchy...it keeps
>everyone in touch with one another...

Hilarious! Thanks for sharing that theory. I love this stuff! Next time the
gossip is boring me to the point of insanity I'll try to remember this.
I'll picture them all picking bugs off each other's heads. Too funny.

thanks for a day brightener,
amckeon
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 18:37:47 -0600 (CST)
From: "Debora A. Orf" <dorf01ATnospammail.win.org>
To: FIute <FIuteATnospamprodigy.net>
cc: "kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>,
 kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: REIKI
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.971106183601.12611E-100000ATnospamwinc0>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

Thank you everyone who responded to my question about reiki.

i'll keep ya posted if you want as i follow it out a bit. You gotta be
patient tho, i never do anything real fast :). Well--unless i need too.

Sparkly lightbeamy type things your way :) (from altair if needed)

(gryn)

--dao
Date: Thu, 06 Nov 1997 21:44:55 -0800
From: Carlos Alberto Russomanno <bcomputoATnospamsatlink.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: WE ARE ONE!
Message-ID: <3462AAD7.2BD2ATnospamsatlink.com>

Results me incredible (though a little funny) the mixture of the year of
aquarium, the chakras, pyramids Egyptians, Cristo, Buddha, meditation,
the World Wide Medidation, the Arcangel Gabriel...
I think that the interior discovery should not be transformed into a
series of words that lose the sense. In the interior search is essential
the sincerity.
A good news: for meditation is not necessary to travel to the Tibet, or
to Machu Pichu, or to Disney!!!
Either it is necessary that they happen flying on our heads condors or
hens, rain in vertical form or in horizontal form.
I think that the interior road must be united to the simplicity, to the
truth, far from the hysterics.
Actually I wait that nobody is offended with my thought ...
Thanks by sharing ideas.

>
> FORWARDED:
> Hello!
>
> We are writing to you with exciting news about a unique opportunity to
> make a real difference for our world. There will be an unprecedented
> event on January 30, 1998. It is a World Wide Meditation: Preparation
> of the Planetary Soul! It will be held across the planet at 8pm
> Greenwich Mean Time. That means 3pm for New York and 12 pm for
> California. You can figure the appropriate time for your location based
> on that information.
>
> According to ARCHANGEL GABRIEL, we are in a time of unprecedented change
> and opportunity on our planet. It is a time that has been prophecied
> for thousands of years. It is a time of planetary and personal
> Ascension. What does that mean? It means that the consciousness and
> resonance of the planet is raising unlike anything in the history of our
> planet. How will that affect all of us? It will raise our awareness to
> a level of soul awareness, transcending the fear and separation of the
> ego. This event will happen one way or another, whether we are
> conscious of it or not. And we will all be affected.
>
> It is an unprecedented opportunity to heal and balance our lives,
> letting go of living our lives out of avoidance of our feelings, letting
> go of simply surviving our lives. We are opening to the greatness of
> who we really are - remembering our divinity. We are moving into Unity
> and Oneness.
>
> This process began on January 23, 1997. This was the first initiation,
> The Birth. It was marked in the heavens with a six-pointed star formed
> by six planets, for the first time in over 2000 years. It marked the
> birth of the Christ/Buddhic Consciousness on our planet. It was the
> official beginning of the Aquarian Age. It began a process that will
> enhance and change life as we know it.
>
> Rather than going into all of the details in this letter, we will just
> give a few brief comments. More detailed information is available at
> our web site. But for now let us say that we are now moving into the
> fourth planetary initiation, The Renunciation. It is a time to prepare
> the soul body for receiving the energies of Spirit directly. The
> energies will be pouring into the second chakra (energy center) of the
> planet in Egypt - the Great Pyramid. These energies will begin a
> process of clearing out all of the chakras of the blocked energies held
> there. They will then be balanced, preparing the body to receive these
> powerful energies - opening us to our divine awareness.
>
> Robert and I led a group to be in the Pyramid last January for the first
> of these initiations. We had amazing, life-changing experiences there.
> We had many affirmations, such as being rained on two days in a row in
> the middele of the desert, right as we finished our rituals leading up
> to the event in the Pyramid.
>
> We then led a group to be in Machu Picchu Peru for the third initiation
> in September of this year. We again had life-changing experiences and
> just as many affirmations. We had two giant condors fly down over our
> heads as we did the preparation for the Meditation. In the Incan
> tradition, the condor is the highest messenger of Spirit.
>
> Details about all of these events are available at our web site:
> http://childrenoflight.com
>
> So we are now taking another journey and group of people to be in Egypt
> for this initiation. We are assured by Gabriel once again that it will
> be a time of magic and miracles.
>
> We ask that you become an active part in getting the word out to people.
> We had tremendous success with the World Wide Meditation in September,
> with over 10 million people joining in. We would like to see that
> number doubled this time, but we need your help.
>
> If you would forward this email to all of your friends and to other
> healing sites that you know, encouraging them to post a notice about
> this world-wide opportunity for healing, it would help immeasurably.
> And direct them to Children of Light, our web site, for details about
> the actual Mediation. There are also other suggestions at our web site
> about how you could be of service in this endeavor.
>
> We thank you in advance for your help in making a real difference for
> the planet and each one of us. Gabriel says that "those who participate
> are being of true service to your planet and to her future." If any of
> you are interested in joining us on this journey, there are a few spaces
> left. However the deadline is rapidly approaching, so act quickly if
> you are being led in this direction.
>
> So let's join together, get the word out there immediately and build a
> resonance of anticipation as we move towards this unique opportunity.
>
> blessings to you all,
>
> Ron Baker and Robert Baker
>
> --
> Please note our email and web site addresses:
>
> Email: childltATnospamchildrenoflight.com
> Web site: http://www.childrenoflight.com
>
> By the way, we want to say thank you to all of you who participated
> in the WORLD WIDE MEDITATION: Let's Heal the Planet! on September 17.
> Gabriel says that we joined more that 10 MILLION people focused on
> healing our planet!
>
> We were there at the heart chakra of the planet in the Andes
> Mountains of Peru, near Machu Picchu. It was a very powerful
> experience - one that changed our lives. I hope that it was also
> powerful for you, grounding in those energies as pillars of light
> all over the world! Details are available at our web site. Come
> and see us....
>
> And stay tuned for the next WORLD-WIDE MEDITATION: Activation of the
> Planetary Soul! targeted for January 30, 1998 at 8pm Greenwich Mean
> Time (or 3pm EST - New York, 12pm PCT - California) ...

--

---
Carlos Alberto Russomanno
E-mail: bcomputoATnospamsatlink.com
Buenos Aires - ARGENTINA
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 19:14:07 -0600
From: amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Reiki
Message-ID: <1333275509-845321ATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Lenny wrote:

>I was initiated into 1st and 2nd degree reiki a couple of years ago. A
>reiki master was offering goods rates! No, it's a longer story than that.
>However, learning reiki is a series of initiations involving various
>symbols and rituals. If it wasn't for the fact that I felt spiritually
>manoeuvred into doing it, I would not have felt comfortable with this. I
>am suspicious (afraid) of rituals and I feel very strongly about paying
>for spiritual gifts. And reiki course can be very expensive, but that's
>another debate.
>
I also am skeptical when someone wants big money to learn something
spiritual. I do expect them to demand that I work at it and apply myself.
This is much more meaningful to me. I don't want to feel as if I have
"bought" something I should earn through my sweat. I am also skeptical
about "initiations." Reminds me of the slumber party where they put my bra
in the freezer, sprayed shaving cream on my glasses, and died my hair black
with colored hair spray.

>I experience reiki as a tangible power emanating from my hands. There are
>normally tingling and pulsing sensations, which I had not experienced
>in the same way with K. The recipient normally experiences reiki as heat,
>but this can vary.
>

Thanks for the information. I am getting a better idea now.

>Since receiving reiki I have read up on spiritual healing in general and
>the experiences seem to be identical - though I stand to be corrected in
>this. Subsequently, I would have prefered to have learnt to nurture this
>gift freely, from a charitable healer. My guess is, though, that God
>(genderless) had good reasons, not least of which I got close to a
>certain lady on the courses.
>

You could be right about the most important reason (from genderless God)
that you took those classes! I met my husband because my car died. He was
the only neighbor willing to give me a ride to work. So actually two
somewhat unpleasant things, work and a broken car, led to the best
relationship of my life. This lady could be "the one." Wouldn't that be
brilliant?

sincerely,
amckeon
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 18:17:35 -0800 (PST)
From: M <chooseagainATnospamthegrid.net>
To: "Debora A. Orf" <dorf01ATnospammail.win.org>
Cc: amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Thoughts.
Message-Id: <199711070217.SAA23655ATnospamgridsat.thegrid.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

At 06:30 PM 11/6/97 -0600, Debora A. Orf wrote:
>
>You have me laughing. This is wonderful! i'm not advanced anything. I just
>used to hate housework so much i sorta decided that i did not have to do
>that as much. I work at an office 40 hrs a week. Vacuuming is mindless
>enough i can make a meditation of it if i'm in the right mode and you'd be
>surprised how quickly it gets done. Ever try to just really VACUUM?
>

The thing about vacuuming is you can see the results AND the floor doesn't
complain about your actions on its behalf...

... therefore it beats working with many people I know...

With Light/Lite Sincerity,

M
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 17:17:57 -0000
From: "F. Drew " <leydaATnospamvalunet.com>
To: <diane_grantATnospamhotmail.com>, <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center
Message-Id: <01bcead7$ecfb6d60$LocalHostATnospamdefault.valunet.com>
Content-Type: text/plain;
 charset="iso-8859-1"

>A few weeks ago, I had my first experience with Kundalini Yoga.
>After the session was over I became somewhat emotional. Although I
>would like to attend a workshop or learn more about this stretching,
>chanting - yes, meditation, I am afraid because I'm not sure why I
>became emotional. I would like some answers on this one!
******
As you stretch your body and release built up tension you also release built
up emotion, it is good for you.
*
Drew
" So Far; So Good "
leydaATnospamvalunet.com
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 17:31:49 -0000
From: "F. Drew " <leydaATnospamvalunet.com>
To: "Paul Fallon" <pawlATnospamfirstnet.co.uk>,
 "'anandajyoti'" <anandajyotiATnospamgeocities.com>,
 "'k-list'" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: piercing the rudra knot
Message-Id: <01bcead9$dcbce120$LocalHostATnospamdefault.valunet.com>
Content-Type: text/plain;
 charset="iso-8859-1"

For me, after a few unmistakable experiences, it rose thro the solar plexus
and heart to the throat and there seemed to stay for hours and hours until,
exhausted, I felt the need to stop
*Questions*: What is the significance of the throat blockage that was /
maybe still is? Although it's not so dramatic and pronounced, it's still
working away within me, no?
**********
*****

I too feel that my energy is blocked at my throat. Does anyone have any
ideas !

*
Drew
" So Far; So Good "
leydaATnospamvalunet.com
Date: Thu, 06 Nov 1997 17:43:21
From: aman <amanATnospamwaena.edu> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: new to list
Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19971106174321.4db79dfcATnospamdomin8rex.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Hello everyone,
I am new to this mailing list and am very excited I found it. Just
curious, about how many people are on this list?

I have a couple of beginner K questions. Is there a particular physical
discipline that enhances the flow of K? Of course I have tried various
yogas, but only a few and without much success. Presently, when I feel
that swelling of the energy I just physically exert myself (running or
other excercises) until I'm exhausted. If nothing else I'm getting my
excercise, but I am sure there is a better way to properly direct or
release this energy.

My other question is; Are O.B.E.'s a result of K? Or is it the other way
around?

Thanks, Aman

Life is an illusion, but an illusion we must take seriously

 **********
  List Mystress to Aman: You sent this to the wrong address, I have
forwarded it.. the correct osting address is below.

    If you need more info, feel free to write to me at
kundalini-l-ownerATnospamexecpc.com
 Love and electric blue K. fire, List Mystress.
  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
   Website <http://www.execpc.com/~libra/kund/kundgate.html>
   in europe <http://www.telebyte.nl/~frans/kundalini/>

To leave the list send a post with UNSUBSCRIBE in the subject header to
<KUNDALINI-L-REQUESTATnospamEXECPC.COM> for the List and
<KUNDALINI-L-D-REQUESTATnospamEXECPC.COM> for the List Digest.
    The posting address for both lists is <KUNDALINI-LATnospamEXECPC.COM>
    PLEASE!! Don't send text or image attachments to this address.

    List Archives from 26/12/96 thru Reference.COM
http://www.reference.com/cgi-bin/pn/listarch?list=KUNDALINI-LATnospamexecpc.com
If you do *NOT* want your post archived include <X-No-Archive: yes>
 as an email header or as the first line of your message.
  *******************************
Send Kundalini Cybrary recommendations directly to ori^ <oriATnospameskimo.com>
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 23:28:08 -0500 (EST)
From: DKharyATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: unsubscribe
Message-ID: <971106232807_-2009672001ATnospammrin43.mail.aol.com>

unsubcribe please
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 21:11:37 -0800 (PST)
From: merlinATnospampnn.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Cc: merlinATnospampnn.com
Subject: yet another newbie
Message-Id: <199711070511.VAA07546ATnospampnn.com>

Hi everybody.
I just subscribed today and have only had time to glance at what people are
saying. It seems to me that I ought to introduce myself, though.
My name is Blythe. I live out in the Coast Range of Oregon. My spiritual
practice is eclectic, and has been with me as long as I can remember. I change
and grow. My practice changes and grows. I do what works for me.
My daughter tells her friends that her parents are pagan Quaker shamanic
witches. That's the short form.
I laid down intense spiritual work about twenty years ago while I learned to
be a healthier adult woman, able to be in relationship and commit to rearing
kids. It's been as hard as, and more rewarding than, anything I'd tried up til
that point.
When the twins became teenagers recently, I woke up one morning knowing it was
time to get on with it.
Since then, with a mixture of Quakerly silent listening to the Beloved, some
down and dirty ritual magic, Bikram yoga, praiseful awareness, body work and a
touch of this and that, I've been moving closer to where I'm going.
While I've been spending steadily more time in an obnoxiously happy state, it
was only quite recently that I had my first serious kundalini bounce. It's
hard to talk about. I was visiting people in a strange town. One of them tried
to help me ground when it started to happen. It didn't stop the shaking or
energy flow. I was up all night trying to sort out what was me, what was God,
what energy swirls were people in the apartment I was in or other apartments
or parking lot, and what was now, what was then, what was not yet. It was
scary, disorienting, and frustrating because I couldn't find any words or
concepts to wrap what I was seeing in. Come dawn, I walked til I found a park
with a stream through it, and pulled the water elementals through me until
only I was left inside.
Then I walked back to the apartment. One of the friends I was visiting gave me
words and kept talking and quoting people. He said some things that spoke to
my condition. For example, he told me that the gift of seeing was mine, but I
didn't own what I saw about people's paths, had to remember that what each
person chose to do was right for them at that time. Later he taught my husband
to balance my chakras. That really helped eliminate the internal shaking.
When we got home that night to kids and dogs and farm, I called the librarian
over a couple of valleys. She scanned me over the phone and helped me see a
few bits of others' lives still snagged on me. I removed them.
By the next morning I was back to obnoxiously happy, laughing at the beauty of
the dew spangled spiderwebs on the pasture fence.
At this point-two days later- I have only a deep understanding/clear sight of
my loved ones, and no memory of all their pasts and futures. There remains an
awed in-loveness at the courage and beauty and stubborness and dearness of
each of us{DID I see everyone in western Oregon?} as we journey from the
Unmanifest back home to the Unmanifest, the love we come from and the love we
return to and are sustained by throughout.
Guess my vision isn't quite back to normal. When I killed a spider in the back
bathroom just now, I saw a spark of gold light fly away.
After this first bounce, and I likely to have more soon? Will they be similar?
Huh! It was only half a year ago that I let go of intending to work at raising
my kundalini, in favor of clearing out the dust bunnies in myself. I guess it
just goes to show that if you don't want something, it's best to keep trying
to grab it.
Goodnight all.
Blythe
 
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 20:19:25 -1000
From: Ruth Trimble <trimbleATnospamhawaii.edu>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Just checking
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95q.971106201806.4014C-100000ATnospamuhunix4>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

Hi Dante:
Thanks for the correction.. it was ofcourse WWI --not WWII
that Steiner helped the British...ooops...somewhat a difference if you
were around in those days..!
<BG> :)
Ruth
*****

blank
DISCLAIMER!

Home | Archive Index | Search the archives | Subscribe
blank
K.  List FAQ | Kundalini FAQs | Signs and  Symptoms | Awakening Experiences | K. list Polls | Member Essays | Meditations | List Topics | Art Gallery | Cybrary | Sitemap | Email the moderators.
line
  • Feel free to submit any questions you might have about what you read here to the Kundalini mailing list moderators, and/or the author (if given). Specify if you would like your message forwarded to the list. Please subscribe to the K-list so you can read the responses.
  • All email addresses on this site have been spam proofed by the addition of ATnospam in place of the at symbol symbol.
  • All posts publicly archived with the permission of the people involved. Reproduction for anything other than personal use is prohibited by international copyright law. ©
  • This precious archive of experiential wisdom is made available thanks to sponsorship from Fire-Serpent.org.
  • URL: http://www.kundalini-gateway.org/klist/k1997d/k97d00454.html