1997/10/17  20:23  
 kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #523 
  
kundalini-l-d Digest				Volume 97 : Issue 523
 
Today's Topics: 
  Re: [Fwd: Re: Kundalini Joy Spot] 
  Re: channeling 
  Unidentified subject! 
  Re: Kundalini and Neurophysiology 
  Re: Compassion 
  Re: Unidentified subject! 
  Re: channeling 
  Re: Unidentified subject! 
  Re: Kundalini and Neurophysiology 
  The newbie 
  AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center  
  Re: kundalini and neurology 
  Unlimited 
  Re: Energy 
  Re: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center 
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 11:17:31 +0100 
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com> 
To: "Duncan, Mark" <duncanmATnospamemh22.eustis.army.mil> 
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: Kundalini Joy Spot] 
Message-ID: <34473B38.3DB3ATnospamintercomm.com> 
 
Duncan, Mark wrote: 
>  
> > -----Original Message----- 
> > From: Gloria Greco [SMTP:lodpressATnospamintercomm.com] 
> > Sent: Monday, October 13, 1997 5:39 AM 
> > To:   amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us 
> > Cc:   kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
> > Subject:      Re: [Fwd: Re: Kundalini Joy Spot] 
> > 
> > amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us wrote: 
> > 
>  
> The love in me is the love in you.  Where there appears no love, there 
> is love 
> observed only in a different form. 
>  
> I think the brain cell just burnt out... 
> ... or did it just supernova. 
>  
Hi Mark, 
 Inspiration is just a part of the joyful union with spirit, while it 
appears it just burnt out, it is really just getting enlightened from a 
higher source. Gloria 
>  
> Mark C. Duncan 
> Network Engineer 
> Information Technology Solutions, Inc. 
> Building 2787, Ft. Eustis, VA 
> 757.878.0071 ext. 297 
> duncanmATnospamemh22.eustis.army.mil
 
-- 
 
Enter The Silence to Know God ... and... accept life as the teacher.  
Gloria Joy Greco  
 e-mail me at : lodpressATnospamintercomm.com and visit our homepages at: 
http://users.intercomm.com/larryn/ 
&  
http://www.freeyellow.com/members/zg888/ 
Hope you enjoy them! 
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 11:32:14 +0100 
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com> 
To: Nancy Eckert <watrfallATnospamniagara.com> 
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: channeling 
Message-ID: <34473EAB.5F4FATnospamintercomm.com> 
 
Nancy Eckert wrote: 
> . 
> >Gloria here....not sure if Nancy wrote this or not but I don't have an ounze of problem with Dannion Brinkley or people who have experinece with spirits, guides etc. I have all my life, what I'm saying don't get involved where you take your instructions from them, most are no higher then you are and you have the opportunity to go inside develop your higher knowing, form a direct relationship with Godhead and change forever. 
 
This is where I'm coming from, why waste your energy looking outside 
here or in the spirit world when you have God inside of you as near as 
your very heart. To look anywhere other then the inner chapel means you 
don't know where your source is and your distracted. Many have the 
ability to bypass all of this stuff and enter into union which is right 
now offered through a small window in time and space, those who choose 
this over the excitement and games of the illusion will cut off 
lifetimes of effort by simply accepting grace and moving with divine 
will. The purpose of testing spirits is so that you understand the 
spirit world and how energies form in direct reflection of your mind and 
what you accept. If you are not taken in my your thoughts and mind and 
really are turning to God, you won't trust anything that comes through 
your visual perception, you test it. Then if it is directly related to 
the highest presence of God, it will acknowledge to you that what you 
are doing is absolutely correct and to continue. If it is an imitation, 
and most are, you will be shown exactly the thought form, or demonic 
spirit that is manifesting through it to manipulate you. It doesn't make 
any difference to me if you accept this or not, it is simply me sharing 
my experience, accept it ...if it is for you, if not throw it out. No 
difference to me. Gloria 
 
> > But there are also some who you would never believe that have these 
> > abilities, such as Dannion Brinkley. He's not very fancy or was not a 
> > spiritual person, until he was struck by lightning and had his first near 
> > death experience, which ultimately changed his life and his life after 
> > death. That's why I always have this feeling that spirit has a good sense 
> > of humour. I guess it's like the trickster, you never quite know what's 
> > going to happen but the trick is to hold on to spirit and feel strong and 
> > balanced when the whole world seems to be going topsey turvey around you 
> :) 
> > 
> > take care 
> > Nancy 
> > WatrFall in spirit 
> > 
> > 
> > > 
> > > Sincerely Seeking, 
> > > Ken
 
-- 
 
Enter The Silence to Know God ... and... accept life as the teacher.  
Gloria Joy Greco  
 e-mail me at : lodpressATnospamintercomm.com and visit our homepages at: 
http://users.intercomm.com/larryn/ 
&  
http://www.freeyellow.com/members/zg888/ 
Hope you enjoy them! 
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 13:31:19 PDT 
From: "zarcon pitom" <zarconpitomATnospamhotmail.com> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Unidentified subject! 
Message-ID: <19971017203121.17402.qmailATnospamhotmail.com> 
Content-Type: text/plain
 
My Physical's story:
 
A few days ago, the room was dark, the drapes closed, it was 4:30 A.M.  
and I could not hear a distracting sound from outside my residence. I  
was deep asleep and then I was suddenly woken by the sound of my  
father's voice. He spoke to me as clearly as if he was at my side, BUT  
he has been dead now for nearly three years. The experience was so  
intense I could not fall back to sleep. My inner voice told me that the  
words my father spoke, were his words and not the words in a dream. I do  
not know how, nor do I know why, but I can tell you I did not fall  
asleep after that occured. The world melted away and I was in another  
land, where exactly I do not know. It was a beautiful feeling. There is  
much I do not know and I am only now learning to truly listen to my  
inner voice. 
 
I feel hot sometimes, especially about the head. And then it passes.  
This has always been with me tho' it does not manifest itself regularly  
so I do not worry about it.
 
Other times, I feel surrounded by spirits, mostly good. I have had an  
experience with a demon once many years ago and was fortunate enough to  
rid the demon. Lucky I guess. Again I do not know. There was nobody at  
home that day when I found clothing and pillows stuffed in pants, shirt  
with tie around it and jacket on laying on the bed, looking very much  
like a person asleep and fully clothed. I summoned my knowledge of  
prayer to rid the demon and the demon departed when I called upon the  
ONE AND ONLY for Divine Help. Yes I was Lucky. The demon departed and  
never came back. So I have believed for years in Good and Evil with what  
I feel is good reason.
 
KARMA, by any other name, is something that unless you open your mind to  
understand it, even from a cursory perspective, you will never fully  
learn. 
 
I am ignorant of the things (books for example) which you refer to in  
this list and yet I have a limited amount of first hand experience with  
Good and Evil if that is what you choose to call it.
 
My voice is Zarcon Pitom. Some of you think that Zarcon can not  
communicate properly, maybe so. I have taken the time to write a small  
part of my story and zarcon can communicate it to you. I have more to  
tell as we all do, I am reasonably sure of that. Maybe when I am strong  
I shall tell you more. Even this much has been an effort for me. If you  
do not believe my story that is fine with me, just don't ridicule me for  
what I believe to be true.  
 
Wishing you all joy, happiness without evil and find the path to  
ascension.
 
Sincerely wishing you keep well 
Lots of Love and Light
 
zarcon 
i am of the ages
 
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Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 17:22:21 -0400 
From: "Nancy Eckert" <watrfallATnospamniagara.com> 
To: "E Jason" <vv60ATnospamdial.pipex.com> 
Cc: <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com> 
Subject: Re: Kundalini and Neurophysiology 
Message-Id: <199710172155.RAA27658ATnospamchardonnay.niagara.com> 
 
> Knowledge is a dangerous thing 
> Ignorance more so 
>  
> A story: 
> Two twins have an identical NDE where they go to 'Paradise' and have 
various  
> very 'profound' experiences and encounters. One goes to see a scientist 
the other a holy  
> person. The scientist explains the illusionary nature of the experience 
in terms of  
> 'altered electrical activity'. The first twin is satisfied and puts the 
experience  
> behind herself and carries on living much as before. 
> The second twin is informed that the experience represents a sacred 
experience that is  
> the turning point in her life. Utilising this experience she changes the 
whole nature of  
> her life, developing a real improvement on what may have been 'altered 
electrical  
> activity'. 
>  
> The experience we have is not the issue - it is what we do with it that 
is important. Do  
> we make the world better for ourselves and others as best we can?
 
The experience, in it's depth and it's reality to the person having it is 
important. The interpretation of the experience is also important. I 
haven't met anyone yet who has had a near death experience or a deeply 
moving spiritual experience who did not have it effect thier lives in a 
positive way.
 
Even the first twin has experienced the after life and actually talked with 
someone on another plane:) If she didn't believe in life after death 
before.. she sure does now <grin:>  
 
But I do hear what you are saying... 
take the middle path.. balance... 
everything here on earth is an illusion, anyway.. the realness is in what 
we learn on our little excursion here and are able to learn as a soul.
 
namaste 
Nancy
 
 
>  
> Fortunately there was a third twin and she went to both the scientist and 
the holy  
> person. She decided that to learn something from a dream is better than 
learning nothing  
> from 'real' life. She also developed a profound improvement. 
>  
> Most Kind Regards, 
> Lobster 
>  
>  
> ARC 
> http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/town/place/vv60/ 
>  
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 18:22:11 -0400 
From: "F. Drew Leyda" <leydaATnospamvalunet.com> 
To: "Ruth Trimble" <trimbleATnospamhawaii.edu>, <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com> 
Subject: Re: Compassion 
Message-Id: <9710180120.AB23056ATnospamns.valunet.com> 
 
> >>> 
> How wise this is. I have found that people often make unconscious or 
> hidden consent to their torture or pain because it helps them grow. How 
> can we know what these agreements are?  I have found that the beauty of 
> how we are all knitted up together and intertwined is awesome.  I was 
> helping someone with a very dangerous problem.. and I was learning all 
> kinds of things about ME and about my own state.. and then I found out 
> that the person had by free will chosen to participate in this dreadful 
> experience... and it was my own fears around that I was trying to 
> deal with... he was probably not worried as at his own level he had 
agreed 
> to go through it... In the helping though I grew a lot ...found out a lot 
> about myself and feel myself an entirely new person.  
 
Very enlightening, thank you.
 
Drew  
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 18:32:01 -0400 
From: "F. Drew Leyda" <leydaATnospamvalunet.com> 
To: "zarcon pitom" <zarconpitomATnospamhotmail.com>, <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com> 
Subject: Re: Unidentified subject! 
Message-Id: <9710180120.AC23056ATnospamns.valunet.com> 
 
> A few days ago, the room was dark, the drapes closed, it was 4:30 A.M.  
> and I could not hear a distracting sound from outside my residence. I  
> was deep asleep and then I was suddenly woken by the sound of my  
> father's voice. He spoke to me as clearly as if he was at my side, BUT  
> he has been dead now for nearly three years. 
 
What did he say ???????????
 
> My voice is Zarcon Pitom. Some of you think that Zarcon can not  
> communicate properly, maybe so. I have taken the time to write a small  
> part of my story and zarcon can communicate it to you. I have more to  
> tell as we all do, I am reasonably sure of that. Maybe when I am strong  
> I shall tell you more. Even this much has been an effort for me. If you  
> do not believe my story that is fine with me, just don't ridicule me for  
> what I believe to be true.   
> 
 
Then do not waste your energy telling us this every time.
 
You got some to say, say it !  Just say it ! 
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 17:53:56 -0400 
From: "Nancy Eckert" <watrfallATnospamniagara.com> 
To: <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com> 
Cc: <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com> 
Subject: Re: channeling 
Message-Id: <199710172155.RAA27666ATnospamchardonnay.niagara.com> 
 
---------- 
> From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com> 
> To: Nancy Eckert <watrfallATnospamniagara.com> 
> Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
> Subject: Re: channeling 
> Date: Friday, October 17, 1997 6:32 AM 
>  
> Nancy Eckert wrote: 
> > . 
> > >Gloria here....not sure if Nancy wrote this or not but I don't have an 
ounze of problem with Dannion Brinkley or people who have experinece with 
spirits, guides etc. I have all my life, what I'm saying don't get involved 
where you take your instructions from them, most are no higher then you are 
and you have the opportunity to go inside develop your higher knowing, form 
a direct relationship with Godhead and change forever. 
 
Hi Gloria,
 
I wrote that response to the material posted, written by Michael Persinger. 
I have seen a couple of programs about his work on T.V. and I was not 
really impressed by his efforts to 'explain' the near death experience or 
the abduction experience as the brain having electrical spasms. He claims 
to have reproduced these experiences by stimulating the brain... but from 
what I have seen he was able to get the brain to respond in a similar 
matter but not with the depth, the story, the feeling and the more real  
than life way these experiences are felt by those who do have them. Dannion 
was just an example.
 
> This is where I'm coming from, why waste your energy looking outside 
> here or in the spirit world when you have God inside of you as near as 
> your very heart. To look anywhere other then the inner chapel means you 
> don't know where your source is and your distracted.  
I don't think that most people can get there so easily, sometimes it's good 
to have guidance from someone who has already been there. Most people when 
they get serious about their own spirituality don't really know where to 
start. They try and look within but it's not quite clear to them just what 
they should be doing or where to look. We tell them to sit and be quiet and 
the answers will come but I see them get so frustrated, at times. If 
someone has already been the path and is of service to others, then why not 
benefit form their experience? By assisting others we help ourselves.  
I have been blessed with the experience of being able to connect within 
quite easily. Many times I'm urged to channel messages for others who 
cannot, yet (I believe that everyone can but if they choose to is their own 
choice)... these messages are to help them with their own journey within... 
it works.
 
> Many have the 
> ability to bypass all of this stuff and enter into union which is right 
> now offered through a small window in time and space, those who choose 
> this over the excitement and games of the illusion will cut off 
> lifetimes of effort by simply accepting grace and moving with divine 
> will. 
Yes I agree that there is a direct route to God and if you can achieve it 
that's great. But many of us have struggled and suffered to get to where we 
are. I have learned many lessons from *many* sources of pathworking... 
often not knowing where an experience is leading until the learning unfolds 
and the understanding makes it into knowing for me.
 
 >The purpose of testing spirits is so that you understand the 
> spirit world and how energies form in direct reflection of your mind and 
> what you accept. 
Why would you except that there are demons... satan? Would that not be a 
reflection of your mind? 
I believe that there are entities that caused problems for themselves and 
others on this plane and now that they are in spirit form, they continue 
on. If we let them into our reality then they will not work for our highest 
good. They might come to us for learning or guidance which I believe is 
Shamanic work and something that I have experienced but not too comfortable 
with. It's hard to help them when you're not sure of all of the rules:)  
So yes I do test them, but I do not judge them and if they're not going to 
be for my highest good, I send them away with love. 
 
take care Gloria 
with love 
Nancy
 
>  If you are not taken in my your thoughts and mind and 
> really are turning to God, you won't trust anything that comes through 
> your visual perception, you test it. Then if it is directly related to 
> the highest presence of God, it will acknowledge to you that what you 
> are doing is absolutely correct and to continue. If it is an imitation, 
> and most are, you will be shown exactly the thought form, or demonic 
> spirit that is manifesting through it to manipulate you. It doesn't make 
> any difference to me if you accept this or not, it is simply me sharing 
> my experience, accept it ...if it is for you, if not throw it out. No 
> difference to me. Gloria  
>  
> > > But there are also some who you would never believe that have these 
> > > abilities, such as Dannion Brinkley. He's not very fancy or was not a 
> > > spiritual person, until he was struck by lightning and had his first 
near 
> > > death experience, which ultimately changed his life and his life 
after 
> > > death. That's why I always have this feeling that spirit has a good 
sense 
> > > of humour. I guess it's like the trickster, you never quite know 
what's 
> > > going to happen but the trick is to hold on to spirit and feel strong 
and 
> > > balanced when the whole world seems to be going topsey turvey around 
you 
> > :) 
> > > 
> > > take care 
> > > Nancy 
> > > WatrFall in spirit 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Sincerely Seeking, 
> > > > Ken 
>  
> --  
>  
> Enter The Silence to Know God ... and... accept life as the teacher.  
> Gloria Joy Greco  
>  e-mail me at : lodpressATnospamintercomm.com and visit our homepages at: 
> http://users.intercomm.com/larryn/ 
> &  
> http://www.freeyellow.com/members/zg888/ 
> Hope you enjoy them! 
>  
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 18:58:37 -0700 
From: E Jason <vv60ATnospamdial.pipex.com> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: Unidentified subject! 
Message-ID: <344817CD.4057ATnospamdial.pipex.com> 
 
> > My voice is Zarcon Pitom. Some of you think that Zarcon can not 
> > communicate properly, maybe so. I have taken the time to write a small 
> > part of my story and zarcon can communicate it to you. I have more to 
> > tell as we all do, I am reasonably sure of that. Maybe when I am strong 
> > I shall tell you more. Even this much has been an effort for me. If you 
> > do not believe my story that is fine with me, just don't ridicule me for 
> > what I believe to be true.
 
Dear Friend, 
Nobody can harm you except your own thoughts. You are safe and secure. Please feel your  
strength and know you will get the support you need. I would ask those of you who have  
the inclination and ability to send Zarcon Pitom what he needs in the way of prayer and  
support. 
Many people have been through similar experiences and been in contact with various  
forces.  
Be still. 
Write your story. 
Look at it. Decide if you wish to share with us. 
You are safe here.
 
Most Kind Regards, 
Lobster 
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 19:15:58 -0700 
From: E Jason <vv60ATnospamdial.pipex.com> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: Kundalini and Neurophysiology 
Message-ID: <34481BDE.6784ATnospamdial.pipex.com> 
 
Nancy Eckert wrote:
 
> > Fortunately there was a third twin and she went to both the scientist and 
> the holy 
> > person. She decided that to learn something from a dream is better than 
> learning nothing 
> > from 'real' life. She also developed a profound improvement.
 
  
> But I do hear what you are saying... 
> take the middle path.. balance... 
> everything here on earth is an illusion, anyway.. the realness is in what 
> we learn on our little excursion here and are able to learn as a soul.
 
Exactly so. This is the lesson of the fourth twin - which is you. Existence too, no  
matter how real it seems is merely a phantasm. We take it as real and dismiss very  
intense moments of understanding as 'neural brain processes'. You can only understand  
experience when you are not attached to its reality. 
There is great value in some of the 'illusionary' experiences that people have: 
'The God before the Known has no existence'. 
What this means is the universe is the expression of the unknowable. We can know many  
things from that expression.
 
Be Well 
Lobster 
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 17:42:39 PDT 
From: "Vary K." <vk82ATnospamhotmail.com> 
To: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: The newbie 
Message-ID: <19971018004239.27406.qmailATnospamhotmail.com> 
Content-Type: text/plain
 
I have been experiencing the Kundahli awakening for the past year.  I  
gain knowledge every day and am excited to learn more.  
 
I think that an important fact is that we are all on a path.  There is a  
fork in the road, however, between what we want and what we need.  As  
these desires become closer to each other, the roads begain to overlap.   
And by looking inward, we find that route. 
 
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Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 14:45:47 -1000 (HST) 
From: DENNIS VINCENT READE <YNGWIEATnospamCWAYNET.COM.BR> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center  
Message-Id: <199710180045.OAA05769ATnospamhaleakala.aloha.net>
 
GOOD TO KNOW THAT THERE ARE SO MANY PEOPLE INTERESTED IN SUCH SUBJECT  
WORLDWIDE, SPECIALLY NOW THAT  BIG CHANGES ARE UNDERWAY. EXERCISE AND 
WORK HARD TO SERVE THE WORLD.BE PREPARED.YOU WILL MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
 
REGARDS 
DENNIS V. READE 
S. PAULO - BRAZIL 
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 20:53:34 -0400 (EDT) 
From: NamasteaATnospamaol.com 
To: MrNamasteATnospamwebtv.net, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: kundalini and neurology 
Message-ID: <971017205023_1209927840ATnospamemout12.mail.aol.com>
 
I am relatively new to this list. I have been in the process of reading the 
numerous mailings and have found something that struct a "nerve" with the 
postings on Kundalini and Neurology. 
 
For a brief background of myself... I have been experiencing Kundalini energy 
since late 1994. I was a corporate accountant and had a very stable 
uneventful life. Then came these events and body situations that I now know 
are related to Kundalini.
 
Since the beginning of 1996 until December 21st, I had been actively working 
with the kundalini energy rising it slowly over time up through my body into 
each of the charkras. Then on December 21st, while the Kundalini energy was 
active in my spinal column it shot up through my chakras into the crown 
chakra. I experienced a beautiful almost undescribable, life  changing 
experience.... then it was as if all the stars in the sky came down into my 
head. I awoke after three hours and found myself blind.... I couldn't 
understand what happened... and most of all I didn't know how I was going to 
explain what had happened.....
 
To make a long story short.... three days later I was found and taken to a 
hospital... the doctors after a number of tests were run told me that I had 
had a stroke. I was 34 yrs old and in perfect health.... This puzzled the 
medical community where I lived so they continued to run tests.... they were 
looking for a reason... they found none....
 
through energy work and massages I have regained much of my health over the 
last 10 months. I even have back 40% of my sight... which has been a blessing 
since I was initially told I would never see again or for that matter do much 
of any thing else.
 
I continue to experience Kundalini and treat the energy with a lot of 
respect.  My story goes on but that's basically how it relates neurologically 
to me. 
 
I have found solice here knowing that I am not alone in experiencing the 
mystical .
 
thank you all so much.
 
Tamara 
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 21:05:16 -0500 
From: FIute <FIuteATnospamprodigy.net> 
To: indra <indraATnospamsmartt.com> 
CC: "kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com> 
Subject: Unlimited 
Message-ID: <3448195C.561AATnospamprodigy.net> 
 
Yes, I found some more information saying  the 4th Ray relates to the 
heart, the intuition and Creative thinking.. grin.. My Website and DBA 
is Creative Minds Unlimited. Coincendences ?? laughing. 
I feel that the creative mind has no boundries and that the ego of man 
creates the boundries in order to bring an experience into his realm, 
instead of accepting the realm of the unknown.  The mind of God is 
infinite, the mind of Man is Finite.. Only when man's mind/spirit arises 
into the dimension of the void and is quiet can he/she be close to 
knowing what that abstract thought with no defination might be like. 
It seems everytime I reach upward into a new level and think I have 
conquered an understanding,  I peek upward and there is a new level. 
UNLIMITED 
  Waking passions and energy expand the 
   reality of Daylight Into creativity. 
    Dreams and images of the night cross 
     the boundaries of Time And 
      imagination. 
The soul is not limited by 
 reality, 
  only the images of Itself being 
   bound.
 
  Would that all Awareness be unlimited 
   and unchained 
    Free upon the wind to pass wherever 
     destiny leads 
      One moment into another, always 
progressing, 
 Fading Away the tomorrows into 
  yesterdays. 
   Leaving the joys and moments 
    shared in reality, 
     Into remembrances and 
      fantasy, Untouched by time
 
  Fear and its demons, 
   always present and demanding, 
    created The word REGRET. 
     The awareness of Regret being the 
      Realization of the LIMITATIONS 
     we set. 
® 7/6/93 Carolyn Maloney 
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 21:27:52 -0500 
From: FIute <FIuteATnospamprodigy.net> 
To: david.bozziATnospamsnet.net 
CC: "kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com> 
Subject: Re: Energy 
Message-ID: <34481EA8.2811ATnospamprodigy.net> 
 
> But the ESSENCE of energy...this ego shall never know.  
 
Then you havn't felt the Kundalini rise within your mind and body. Its 
an experience that is undeniable. THe only problem with valid, vivid 
descriptions is that an abstract thought has no words.. sometimes there 
are symbols or pictures, however not words we can write or translate. So 
each individual takes these pictures and knowing of what 
energy/light/being/prana/chi/ti/Ki/Qi is and struggles to give the form 
or description of what is in his/her mind.   
As as Kahlil Gibran said in "The Prophet" 
The Hidden well-spring of our soul must needs rise and run murmuring to 
the sea,  And the treasure of your infinite depths would be revealed to 
your eyes. 
But let there be no scales to weigh your unknown treasure; and seek not 
the dephs of your knowledge with staff or sounding line. For Self is a 
Sea boundless and measureless..Say Not, "I ve found the truth, " but 
rather, I have found A truth".. Say not that I have found the path of 
the soul. Say rather, "I have met the soul walking upon my path.  
For the soul walks upon all paths.. The soul walks no upon a line, 
neither does it grow like a reed. The soul unfolds itself, like a lotus 
of countless petals. 
Brightest Blessings,  
flute 
Reiki Master Teacher 
Empathic 
Intuitive Explorer 
http://www.create.org 
("When you work, you are a flute through whose heart the whispering of 
the hours turns to music"- Gibran) 
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 19:27:55 -0700 
From: indra <indraATnospamsmartt.com> 
To: heleniusATnospamaol.com 
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center 
Message-ID: <34481EAB.4256ATnospamsmartt.com> 
 
stephanie phillips wrote: 
>  
> I have had it with this awakening stuff.  Put me back to sleep, PLEASE! 
>  
Hello Stephanie !
 
I have had this experience in many peoples lives. What I understand is 
the whole world is going through a stage towards more growth and 
development on individual basis. Sometimes it also helps to keep away , 
to yourself, for the energies to settle. In the modern times there is so 
much information coming at us, that unless we have a secure physical, 
emotional and mental dam, the floating energies affect deeply and in 
various ways. The more we strengthen ourselves in understanding, and 
treat ourselves with love and compassion , with a strong connection with 
our Inner Self, we find that we strengthen ourselves in all aspects of 
our lives. I find understanding such phenomena is only the first step 
and then integrating it in our lives is the best part. Through the 
integration process with our inner self we come to know ourselves more 
than than we did before.
 
Wish you all the luck in your search.
 
In Love Life and Light,
 
Indra  
http://personal.smartt.com/~indra  
or http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/6782
 
 
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