1997/10/17 02:42
kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #521
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 97 : Issue 521
Today's Topics:
Swami Sri Yukteswar Giri
re: tummo
ngawa
Re: kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #520
Fw: Question
Fw: Kundalini and Neurophysiology
re:channeling
Re: unsucscribe
Re: Fw: Kundalini and Neurophysiology
Hello,Hello,Hello,.....................
Hi....
Re: nga wa
another name/word Kaloha
Re: Kundalini and Neurophysiology
Swami Sri Yukteswarji Giri
Re: Hi....
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 15:22:13 -0500
From: MrNamasteATnospamwebtv.net (MrNamaste)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Swami Sri Yukteswar Giri
Message-Id: <199710162022.NAA29593ATnospammailtod-1.alma.webtv.net>
Sri Yukteswar's guru was named Lahiri Mayasaya. Here's a story that
Yogananda shares in his autobiography:
"Many distant disciples of Lahiri Mahasaya were aware of his enfolding
Presence......an eminent disciple of this great guru, stated that, in
1892, unable to go to Banaras, he prayed to the master for spiritual
instruction. Lahiri Mahasaya appeared before him in a dream and gave
him diksha (initiation). Later the boy went to Banaras and asked the
guru for diksha. "I have already initiated you, in a dream," Lahiri
Mayasaya replied.
"Lahiri Mayasaya's words were mild and healing, even when he was forced
to speak openly of a chela's faults," Sri Yukeswar once told me,
[Yogananda]. He added ruefully to me, "No disciple ever fled from our
master's barbs." I could not help laughing, but I truthfully assured my
guru that, sharp or not, his every word was music to my ears."
YUKTESWAR means "united to Ishwara" (a name of G-d in His aspect of
Cosmic Ruler, or He by whose wish all universes, in orderly cycles, are
created and dissolved. [ These definitions are solely from Yogananda's
autobiography. Yogananda was the "One" "Chief" or primary disciple of
Sri Yukteswarji, so I will use his definitions --- although I assure you
that there are literally libraries of volumes more about Ishwara, the
L-rd. ]
Yogananda's guru had a deep profound impact upon him. He tells us that
whenever he visited his guru, "I was conscious always that I was in the
presense of a living manifestation of G-d. The weight of his divinity
automatically bowed my head before him."
"Because of my guru's unspectacular guise, only a few of his
contemporaries recognized him as a superman." [ As I mentioned to you
privately, EvansWenz, a very esteemed western scholar who wrote a VERY
famous book about Tibetan mysticism placed a photo of Sri Yukteswarji (a
Indian Hindu swami) as the fronticepiece to his (most famous) book. He
was very very very impressed by Yogananda's guru --- and this is
considered to be Sri Yukteswar's first "formal" introduction to the
West. ]
"Good manners without sincerity are like a beautiful dead lady," Sri
Yukteswarji remarked
on suitable occasion. "Straightforwardness without civility is like a
surgeon's knife, effective, but unpleasant..." Discipline had not been
unknown to me, [ writes, Yogananda ]; at home father was strict, my
elder brother often severe. But Sri Yukteswar's training may NOT be
described as other than DRASTIC. A perfectionist, my guru was
hypercritical of his disciples, whether in matters of moment or in the
subtle nuances of ordinary behavior. Under my Master's unsparing rod, I
soon recovered from the agreeable delusions of irresponsibility."
Yogananda's autobiography is virtually filled with page upon of stories
about his Master."I daresay Sri Yukteswar would have been the most
sought after guru in India had his speech not been so censorious, "I am
hard on those who come for my training," he admitted to me. "Take it or
leave it; I never compromise. But you, Yogananda will be much kinder to
your disciples, that is your way....You will go to foreign lands, where
blunt assaults on the ego are not appreciated." Though my guru's
dissembling speech prevented a large following during hisyears on earth,
nevertheless his spirit lives on in the world today. Warriors like
Alexander the Great seek sovereignty over the soil; masters like Sri
Yukteswar win a farther dominion --- in men's souls."
Here in closing, I would like to ask if there are any hindu or buddhist
"Experts" around here who would carefully explain the meanings
surrounding the term, "Guru Yoga" ---- and how such things materialize
in the lives of human beings living here on earth --- no matter whether
the guru is "alive" or "dead" or "physically incarnate" or "celestially
incarnate."
I assure you my knowledge of such divine matters is minimal at best, and
I bow down to you Wisdom and keen disciplined intellects. Thank you.
OM GURU OM GURU OM GURU OM GURU OM GURU OM GURU OM GURU OM GURU OM GURU
OM GURU OM GURU OM GURU OM GURU OM GURU OM GURU OM GURU
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 15:41:43 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Debora A. Orf" <dorf01ATnospammail.win.org>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
cc: kundalini-l-dATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: re: tummo
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On page 201 Yogananda writes:
<snip for space>
from: "Autobiography of a Yogi" by Paramahansa Yogananda
thank you for this quote!
can't say too much in this vein, but i am greateful beyond words into
beautiful stunned silence at the generosity of the Guru.
there is something to be said about infinite kindess.
knocks your socks off it does.
metta,
--debora a. orf
--dorf01ATnospammail.win.org
"do not permit the events of your daily life to bind you, but never
withdraw yourself from them"--Zen saying
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 15:43:37 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Debora A. Orf" <dorf01ATnospammail.win.org>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: ngawa
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.971016154216.24730B-100000ATnospamwinc0>
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Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 10:55:19 +0000
From: Bliss <readyATnospamdircon.co.uk>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Ngawa
Message-ID: <3445F296.5112ATnospamdircon.co.uk>
Hello list...
I was wondering if anyone has any response to the word/name: 'Ngawa'
(May not be spelt this way, could be Ungawa, or similar).
-----------------------------------------------------
There is another tibetan word that comes to mind 'ngak-phang' or ngak-ma
or ngak-pa.
www.aroter.org has more info.
Tashi Delek,
--dao
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 15:24:33 -0700
From: iri <iriATnospamivyrealty.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #520
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At 03:22 PM 16/10/97 -0500, you wrote:
>kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 97 : Issue 520
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>Here is something from Linda Sherman on another list
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> I prefer to teach someone to do something than to do it for them.
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>Linda Sherman
Nice concept.....reminds me of something similar.....give a man a fish and
you feed him for a day, teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime.
(or something like that)
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>OM GURU OM GURU OM GURU OM GURU
>
>
Somebody, please explain to me what is the significance of these words/ phrases
I do not understand
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 19:59:44 -0400
From: "Nancy Eckert" <watrfallATnospamniagara.com>
To: <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Fw: Question
Message-Id: <199710170003.UAA11584ATnospamchardonnay.niagara.com>
----------
> From: Nancy Eckert <watrfallATnospamniagara.com>
> To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com; Sean Nomura <snomuraATnospammail.arc.nasa.gov>
> Subject: Re: Question
> Date: Thursday, October 16, 1997 7:38 PM
>
> Hi Sean,
>
> The silhouettes I believe were people but in incarnate or spirit form.
> We all have them but not everyone is able to see them. They are there to
> help you and assist you. Since you didn't fdeel at all threatened by them
I
> would say that they are there for the good. It never hurts to ask them
why
> they are there... verbally, mentally or by prayer. Also you can just pray
> and ask spirit/God to remove them is they have any negative intent for
you.
>
> But it sounds like you have just seen/met your spirit helpers... that's a
> wonderful blessing, they are always with you... so say Hi :)
>
> Golden is a very high, revrent, spiritual colour. When I look at
ministers
> who are very devoted to their calling I see gold around them.
> Often spirits are in a form of a glowing ball, the colour is what they
> are.. the colour of the energy that they are projecting, the stuff they
are
> made of.
> Gold is also associated with the crown chakra... many times spirit is
> trying to tell us things in a sort of symbolism or a personal code that
we
> have to break for ourselves. To follow along our path.
>
> hope this helps
> with love
> Nancy
> WatrFall in spirit
>
>
>
> ----------
> > From: Sean Nomura <snomuraATnospammail.arc.nasa.gov>
> > To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
> > Subject: Question
> > Date: Thursday, October 16, 1997 10:59 AM
> >
> > Hey there :-)
> >
> > A couple of days ago I re-experienced a 'phenomena' that I had
> experienced
> > only once before, about 6 years ago. I was laying on my bed on my back
> and
> > looking up towards the ceiling. There is no doubt that I was wide
awake.
> As
> > I looked up I saw whitish-greyish, transluscent 'silhouettes' of what
> > appeared to be people. These 'people' weren't stationary, but in
> movement.
> > Next, I stared directly at the ceiling and saw a myriad of golden
lights,
> > 'dancing' in beautiful patterns across the ceiling.
> > Does anyone have any idea as to what this is?
> >
> > Sean
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 20:01:26 -0400
From: "Nancy Eckert" <watrfallATnospamniagara.com>
To: <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Fw: Kundalini and Neurophysiology
Message-Id: <199710170003.UAA11588ATnospamchardonnay.niagara.com>
...another forward... I'm the single >'s
> > From: Kurt Keutzer <keutzerATnospamsynopsys.com>
> > To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
> > Cc: MrNamasteATnospamwebtv.net
> > Subject: Kundalini and Neurophysiology
> > Date: Wednesday, October 15, 1997 10:12 PM
> >
> >
> > Mr. Namaste writes:
> > >page 115-116: Michael Persinger, a professor at Laurentian
> > >University in Ontario, Canada, has researched the neurophysiology of
> > >religious feelings and proposed that spiritual experiences come from
> > >altered electrical activity in the brain....According to Persinger,
> > >religious and mystical experiences are "the NORMAL consequences of
> > >spontaneous ... stimulation of temporal lobe structures," which causes
> > >brain structures that are ordinarily unrelated to fire in
tandem.....In
> > >Persinger's view, religious experiences are are our explanation for
> > >'microseizures', or: temporal lobe transients.
> > >
>
> Would this also be the man who is studying the near death experience here
> in Canada?
> I saw a show on it a few weeks back and he was trying to re create the
near
> death experience in people by stimulating the areas of the brain that
have
> to do with the death process and of feeling the presence of aliens,
having
> to do with the abduction experience. He thought that if he could
reproduce
> it by stimulating the brain then he could prove that it was not a real
> experience that these people were having but just the brain sending
signals
> and producing endorphins to help the person deal with death.
>
> He was able to do this to some degree but not exactly like the real
> experience. There was the feeling of others being in the room but there
was
> no exchange or visual experience, to make it the same as the real
> experience.
> I often think of epilepsy and how it's caused by a part of the brain
> that's not functioning well and the operation that if you can find the
area
> of the brain that is having problems and deaden it, then the seizures
will
> go away. We had a commercial going here for awhile about the doctor that
> figured this out and in the commercial they had a woman who before every
> seizure smelled toast. So they went looking in her brain stimulating the
> areas where smell was and when she smelled toast. They had found the area
> that was causing her problems.
> But smelling the toast, by recreating it in her brain did not mean that
she
> had never had the experience of smelling toast...
>
> just some thoughts...
> Nancy
> Watrfall in spirit
>
>
> > >page 110- 111: Temporal lobe epilepsy is often misdiagnosed not only
as
> > >schizophrenia but also as mood disorders, according to John Kuehnle, a
> > >psychiatrist, who noted TLE's widespread misdiagnosis has
"unbelievable
> > >implications for psychiatry." Kuehlne estimated that 5 percent of
> > >people with affective disorders, such as depression, manic-depressive
> > >illness, and mania "actually have TLE."....Similarly, he added,
fifteen
> > >to twenty percent of so-called schizophrenics, including many of the
> > >'chronic residual schizophrenics' on the back wards of state hospitals
> > >who don't respond to standard treatment for psychoses, are actually
> > >temporal lobe epileptics."
> > >
> > >The above quotes are from the book: "SEIZED: Temporal Lobe Epilepsy
as
> > >a Medical, Historical, and Artistic Phenomenon"
> > >by Eva LaPlante (0-06-016673-8)
> >
> > Noticeably absent from this list have been discussions of the
> > neurophysiology of the kundalini phenomenon. Mr. Namaste has provided
> some
> > pointers to valuable new information in what I think is one of the
> > important leads in understanding the kundalini phenomenon. The only
other
> > comparable reference I have found is on the topic of ``kindling'' and
> > meditation. I believe that this phenomenon is the only physiological
> model
> > that I know that explains the kriya activity. Thanks for excavating
these
> > references MrNamaste. I rushed off to order the book cited above but it
> is
> > out of print. The author's name is Eve LaPlante by the way(important
for
> > name searches).
> >
> > Any comments out there on Isaak Bentov's physical model of the
kundalini
> > process?
> >
> > Kurt
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 19:58:12 -0400
From: "Nancy Eckert" <watrfallATnospamniagara.com>
To: <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: re:channeling
Message-Id: <199710170003.UAA11577ATnospamchardonnay.niagara.com>
Hello all,
I had to forward this becuase my mail screwed up...my stuf is in the single
>'s :)
>
> I think that we all have special abilities. As a perfect soul we have all
> of the abilities in completion but in this life that we are living
certain
> abilities will be dominant so that we can learn what we need to, this
time
> around.
> Also. there are so mant 'forms' of doing things, such as healing,
> channeling... even reading tarot etc. that one might think at a glance
that
> you would need to learn all of the different forms to become proficient
in
> one area. But when one looks closely at the yechnique there are more
> similiarities than differences. I think the key is to learn as much as is
> available to you and so that you 'feel' competant in that area. One also
> should pay attention to what comes easily to oneself, as that may be the
> main vehicle, for this life, to learn those lessons that need to be
> experienced.
>
>
>
> >
> > Dear Gloria and K-listers,
> >
> >One prominent
> > neuroscientist (Black, 1992) states "The interpreter does not tolerate
> > ambiguity, discontinuity, or chance. Rather, this (superordinate)
module
> > constantly invents hypotheses to account for the ceaseless barrage of
> > internal and external information. As we have seen, a faulty theory is
> far
> > preferred to no theory at all. The line, if any, between insightful
> > invention and fabrication does not seem to exist for the interpreter"
(p.
> 162).
> This translates, to me, more of the ego as being the interpreter. It
always
> has to make sense of things. Put all of the little peices into the boxes
> that fit and shelve them away. When something comes along that the ego
does
> not understand. It takes it as a threat and goes into it's defensive
> actions of fear, regection, anger and putting a worthless connotation to
> the whatever the situation may be. ..Doesn't matter, doesn't affect me
tec.
>
>
> > Spirituality is also a domain where one may easily convince themselves
to
> be
> > in possession of special powers and privileged status. All manner of
> claims
> > can be made without independent verification.
>
> Hmm but when the verification comes... such as those many that have the
> ability to contact those who haves passed on or those still living, in
the
> circumstance of finding a missing person or body. There is
verification...
> therefore this must go beyond illusion as it touches us in this reality.
>
> > The cost of this sort of
> > self-delusion is a farther distancing by the false-self, the
> > ego-driven-self, from the true Self where self-acceptance and real
> self-love
> > are to be found. To the extent an individual is convinced of his
> delusions
> > and/or is able to create a following, his pathology is increased. This
> > self-appointed spiritual leadership also takes a toll of spiritual
> > corruption on those who he is able to beguile into the service of his
> ego.
>
> I'm not saying that everyone who claims to have some abilities, that most
> do not have, is never deluding themself. But I think that if you watch
> these people and look at the fruits of their labours, (the prices of
their
> houses:), the lives of their followers, you will see the truth about
them.
>
> But there are also some who you would never believe that have these
> abilities, such as Dannion Brinkley. He's not very fancy or was not a
> spiritual person, until he was struck by lightning and had his first near
> death experience, which ultimately changed his life and his life after
> death. That's why I always have this feeling that spirit has a good sense
> of humour. I guess it's like the trickster, you never quite know what's
> going to happen but the trick is to hold on to spirit and feel strong and
> balanced when the whole world seems to be going topsey turvey around you
:)
>
> take care
> Nancy
> WatrFall in spirit
>
>
> >
> > Sincerely Seeking,
> > Ken
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 20:46:39 -0400 (EDT)
From: Kraven0825ATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: unsucscribe
Message-ID: <971016171425_-159460999ATnospamemout04.mail.aol.com>
Please take me off this list
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 19:45:15 -0700
From: freda <fredaATnospamblarg.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Fw: Kundalini and Neurophysiology
Message-ID: <3446D13B.642EATnospamblarg.net>
>> Mr. Namaste writes:
>> >page 115-116: Michael Persinger, a professor at Laurentian
>>University in Ontario, Canada, has researched the neurophysiology >>of >>religious feelings and proposed that spiritual experiences come from
>>altered electrical activity in the brain
>>Michael Persinger, a professor at Laurentian University in Ontario, >>Canada,
I wanted to know more... I used altavista to search Michael Persinger
and found a number of web sites. If this is the same guy, He has
written a number articles. Interesting. Here is his web page.
http://www.io.com/~hambone/web/persinger.html
--
Freda
http://www.blarg.net/~freda/01rg/hm/frhm.htm
BE-IS-AM
http://www.blarg.net/~freda/01a/mnf/mrite.htm
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 23:44:47 -0400
From: "F. Drew Leyda" <leydaATnospamvalunet.com>
To: "Self Knowledge List" <selfknow-lATnospamspiritweb.org>
Cc: "Spirit-Mind-Body" <spirit-mind-bodyATnospamtikipub.com>,
"Kundalini" <Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Hello,Hello,Hello,.....................
Message-Id: <9710170631.AA06503ATnospamns.valunet.com>
We don't want you singletons to feel bad
but there are at least five or six of us.
Number two doesn't much like number five
and number one thinks number three is a putz.
It's sort of confusing and impractical
and it makes us both tired and sad.
But the worst is that the one who is remembered
is the one who was so terribly bad.
*
*
Drew
" So Far : So Good "
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 15:21:42 +0100
From: "Rhavy Davidrajuh" <rhavyATnospamglobalnet.co.uk>
To: <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Hi....
Message-Id: <199710162243.XAA03974ATnospamsand.global.net.uk>
Kundalites, Lakers and Romans !
I have come to BURY Lobster... not to praise him...
Hi everyone,
I wish to lurk for a while. Hope you don't mind.
Regards,
SHADOW.
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 16:04:42 -0700
From: Kurt Keutzer <keutzerATnospamsynopsys.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: nga wa
Message-Id: <3.0.32.19971016160440.0077c900ATnospampcpo-1>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
A>From: Bliss <readyATnospamdircon.co.uk>
>I was wondering if anyone has any response to the word/name: 'Ngawa'
>(May not be spelt this way, could be Ungawa, or similar).
nga means I in Tibetan. It is the first person singular pronoun.
I haven't seen nga wa but I have seen nga dbang, pronounced ngawang. It is
a common name in Tibet. dbang, pronounced wang means power.
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 00:42:14 -0400
From: "Nancy Eckert" <watrfallATnospamniagara.com>
To: <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: another name/word Kaloha
Message-Id: <199710170440.AAA15071ATnospamchardonnay.niagara.com>
I thought I might try and see if anyone has any info on a name I was
given...
Kaloha.. this is spelled phonetically
She is supposed to be my second main spirit helper...
and I have just started to learn about her.. she seems to be heavily
connected to Kali, also.
thanks!
Nancy
'Know Thyself'
Carved above the the gate of the Oracle of Delphi
'Nothing real can be threatened. Nothing unreal exists. Herein lies the
peace of God...
A Course in Miracles
WaterFall in spirit
http://www.niagara.com/~watrfall
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 19:21:08 -0400
From: "Nancy Eckert" <watrfallATnospamniagara.com>
To: <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Kundalini and Neurophysiology
Message-Id: <199710162319.TAA06399ATnospamchardonnay.niagara.com>
----------
> From: Kurt Keutzer <keutzerATnospamsynopsys.com>
> To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
> Cc: MrNamasteATnospamwebtv.net
> Subject: Kundalini and Neurophysiology
> Date: Wednesday, October 15, 1997 10:12 PM
>
>
> Mr. Namaste writes:
> >page 115-116: Michael Persinger, a professor at Laurentian
> >University in Ontario, Canada, has researched the neurophysiology of
> >religious feelings and proposed that spiritual experiences come from
> >altered electrical activity in the brain....According to Persinger,
> >religious and mystical experiences are "the NORMAL consequences of
> >spontaneous ... stimulation of temporal lobe structures," which causes
> >brain structures that are ordinarily unrelated to fire in tandem.....In
> >Persinger's view, religious experiences are are our explanation for
> >'microseizures', or: temporal lobe transients.
> >
Would this also be the man who is studying the near death experience here
in Canada?
I saw a show on it a few weeks back and he was trying to re create the near
death experience in people by stimulating the areas of the brain that have
to do with the death process and of feeling the presence of aliens, having
to do with the abduction experience. He thought that if he could reproduce
it by stimulating the brain then he could prove that it was not a real
experience that these people were having but just the brain sending signals
and producing endorphins to help the person deal with death.
He was able to do this to some degree but not exactly like the real
experience. There was the feeling of others being in the room but there was
no exchange or visual experience, to make it the same as the real
experience.
I often think of epilepsy and how it's caused by a part of the brain
that's not functioning well and the operation that if you can find the area
of the brain that is having problems and deaden it, then the seizures will
go away. We had a commercial going here for awhile about the doctor that
figured this out and in the commercial they had a woman who before every
seizure smelled toast. So they went looking in her brain stimulating the
areas where smell was and when she smelled toast. They had found the area
that was causing her problems.
But smelling the toast, by recreating it in her brain did not mean that she
had never had the experience of smelling toast...
just some thoughts...
Nancy
Watrfall in spirit
> >page 110- 111: Temporal lobe epilepsy is often misdiagnosed not only as
> >schizophrenia but also as mood disorders, according to John Kuehnle, a
> >psychiatrist, who noted TLE's widespread misdiagnosis has "unbelievable
> >implications for psychiatry." Kuehlne estimated that 5 percent of
> >people with affective disorders, such as depression, manic-depressive
> >illness, and mania "actually have TLE."....Similarly, he added, fifteen
> >to twenty percent of so-called schizophrenics, including many of the
> >'chronic residual schizophrenics' on the back wards of state hospitals
> >who don't respond to standard treatment for psychoses, are actually
> >temporal lobe epileptics."
> >
> >The above quotes are from the book: "SEIZED: Temporal Lobe Epilepsy as
> >a Medical, Historical, and Artistic Phenomenon"
> >by Eva LaPlante (0-06-016673-8)
>
> Noticeably absent from this list have been discussions of the
> neurophysiology of the kundalini phenomenon. Mr. Namaste has provided
some
> pointers to valuable new information in what I think is one of the
> important leads in understanding the kundalini phenomenon. The only other
> comparable reference I have found is on the topic of ``kindling'' and
> meditation. I believe that this phenomenon is the only physiological
model
> that I know that explains the kriya activity. Thanks for excavating these
> references MrNamaste. I rushed off to order the book cited above but it
is
> out of print. The author's name is Eve LaPlante by the way(important for
> name searches).
>
> Any comments out there on Isaak Bentov's physical model of the kundalini
> process?
>
> Kurt
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 19:00:55 -0500
From: MrNamasteATnospamwebtv.net (MrNamaste)
To: FIuteATnospamprodigy.net, indraATnospamsmartt.com, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Swami Sri Yukteswarji Giri
Message-Id: <199710170000.RAA02124ATnospammailtod-2.alma.webtv.net>
Dear Flute and Indra,
I have not had time to get back to you Flute, for it was necessary for
me to get a box of books out of storage and also to find the long
distance phone number of a person I once knew. I shared the salient
details of your experience and my friend confirmed that this happens
"all the time" --- whenever sitting in meditation in front of a picture
of the guru. My friend is quite impressed by the very high calibre Soul
you have attracted by the goodness & purity of your life & service, and
advises that you during meditation remember your experience very vividly
and once you feel Him very near, to then concentrate on His Essence in
the very depths of your heart chakra. Sri Yukteswar may not actually be
your Satguru nor your own ishtadeva ---- but Swami Sri Yukteswarji Giri
is simply so Utterly Divine that He can quicken your Path, dissolve your
karma and actually introduce you to your Satguru.
Now I warn you that we live in modernday america where all the above is
considered by the very finest medical authorities to be what is called a
"religious psychosis." Do, p-l-e-a-s-e, check out Ken McFarland's very
fine posting on this matter, and I hope too, you'll give a looksee at
the items about temporal lobe epilepsy which interested Kurt.
I have not read and studied enough about Guru Yoga, but I want to make
sure that you know that this has a VERY long tradition in the East. So,
although you and I may discuss what you experienced and call it a " very
strange tactile hallucination", I urge you to learn all you can about
persons EVEN HERE IN THE WEST who have had actual TRUE physical Plane
Manifestations of Celestial Divine Personages. (i.e., "Flesh and
Blood.") Somebody named B.E. Gold has a wonderful experience which he
describes in one of his books about his own guru, LONG dead, but who
visited him HERE in a fully materialized physical body.
In closing I'd like to mention that I have met many people who really
enjoyed Yogananda's autobiography ----- it is not a "scholarly tome" ---
it's VERY readable and contains much more wisdom and technical details
than many a scholarly work ---- you'll enjoy it very much and if you
wish, I'd be honored to buy you copy.
Congratulations, (as they say,) and good luck on the rest of your
Journey.
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 23:01:51 -0800
From: valerian <madammumATnospamptialaska.net>
To: rhavyATnospamglobalnet.co.uk
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Hi....
Message-ID: <34470D2B.53BCATnospamptialaska.net>
Rhavy Davidrajuh wrote:
>
> Kundalites, Lakers and Romans !
> I have come to BURY Lobster... not to praise him...
friends, romans, countrymen -
lend me your ears! whether tis nobler in the mind to suffer the
slings & arrows of outrageous fortune, & by *outrageousness* yet
overcome it, or by whimsical beachcombing - dredge the lobster upon dry
land, & -by persecution - bury him, & not praise him.
n'er by virtue nor vengeance need one seek revenge nor persecution,
but by an overabundance of testosterone & neediness of an individual's
*ego*. forsooth - a stranger seeking solace amongst the friends of the
crustracean with an agenda to "bury Lobster" is a sad & sorry sight.
"water seeks it's own level" in this case i interpret as an ostrich
with it's head in the sand, seeking to bury yet another dumb beast...
the nature of the beast - kundalini - in her breadth & scope of
transitory individualistic whimsy; by nature, exposes those with a
predatory agenda towards anyone within her ever-changing protection &
challenges all facets of *life* to her extreme queries...
in other words, rhavy, what the *heck* are you talkin about???
v
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