1997/10/13  06:10  
 kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #512 
  
kundalini-l-d Digest				Volume 97 : Issue 512
 
Today's Topics: 
  Lessons from the Soul  -  #32 
  Evolution?  
  Re: Evolution?  
  sign the guestbook invitation 
  Re: Evolution?  
  humble pie 
  Re: Evolution?  
  Re: Evolution?  
  re: Abundance of insight in India 
  Re: chakras and radionics 
  Grounded 
  Re: Kundalini forum is us 
  Re: Evolution? 
Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 18:53:42 -0600 
From: John Otis <sacredwindATnospamusa.net> 
To: sacredwindATnospamusa.net 
Subject: Lessons from the Soul  -  #32 
Message-ID: <34417116.6929ATnospamusa.net> 
Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------E523941DA5"
 
Greetings from the mountaintop of the Sacred Wind,
 
We awakened this morning to our first snow of the season transforming 
the spruce and aspen forest into a winter wonderland.  And to think that 
only yesterday we were hiking in the high country at the upper part of 
our valley wearing short sleeves and enjoying the shade!  Yes, change is 
upon us - constantly.  It is a matter of perception as to how we look 
at, and then interact with that which is observed.
 
The winter season is a wonderful season to go within, just as the 
externalized aspects of nature do.  It is a time to reflect, to renew, 
to awaken to that infinite source of energy and power that resides 
within the Soul.  The outer conditions are but a reflection of the 
seasons of the Soul.  See what you will; know the truth of that which 
you see.  The awakening continues.....................
 
Blessings of Love and Light,
 
John and Cheryl 
--  
>From the Land of Enchantment
 
<sacredwindATnospamusa.net> 
<http://www.observations.org/sacredwind.html> 
    FOCUS ON THE MOUNTAIN TOP
 
The  era  of your existence in which all creation is  taking 
place   at  a  rather  constant  but  what  appears  to   be 
accelerated  pace is an era that demands the  focus  of  the 
attention of awakening for there is really nothing  more  or 
less that is happening than any other period of observation. 
It  is  just that the awareness of the process of awakening, 
the  awareness of the process of the infinite creative  flow 
of  energy  is  increasing.  Souls are  awakening  to  their 
potential,  to  their reality, to their true  character  and 
nature so  it appears as though there is much happening.  It 
must always be known that there is a steady constant flow of 
creative   energy.   It  is  simply  how  that   energy   is 
manipulated,   how  it  is  manifested,  and   how   it   is 
interpreted, understood, and observed that makes  it  appear 
to be more or less of an energetic pattern.
 
For  this  reason, it is important that the awakening   soul 
remain focused on what you might call the summit of creative 
experience.  It is important that the awakening soul  remain 
focused  on what you might call the mountain top, the  peak, 
or the apex of one's experience.  There are many patterns of 
experience  along the pathway of awakening that  would  draw 
one into the valleys, into the crevasse, into the depths  of 
the transient moment that appear to be so real but disappear 
and  dissipate  as the focus is regained and the  summit  of 
experience of awakening is observed.
 
There  are  many  discussions  about  the  soul  having  the 
mountain  top  experience.  This is simply  another  way  of 
saying  remaining focused, remaining clear in the purity  of 
intention  and application.  This is another way  of  saying 
that  within the depths of the awareness of the soul is  the 
total perfection and reality of all that the soul truly  is. 
It  is  within this center of being that the focus of  one's 
attention  must rest.  This is the key to remaining  on  the 
pathway  of  awakening, the pathway  of  ascension.   It  is 
important  to let all that is less than this perfected  peak 
of  awareness  simply  fall away for it  ultimately  has  no 
meaning  other  than being a transient point of  observation 
that is like the rung on the ladder.
 
We  would  simply encourage that the focus remain clear  and 
perfect,  that the intention remains pure and directed,  and 
that  the  application of all one says, one  does,  and  one 
thinks be aligned with this focus and intention.  This is  a 
time,   an   era  when  the  awakening  process  is   indeed 
accelerating.  Hold that mountain top in the center of  your 
inner  vision.   Let  nothing divert the  attention  or  the 
movement of awareness toward the attaining of the clarity of 
understanding,  the clarity of knowing the  truth  that  can 
only  come  when  one rests on this apex,  this  peak,  this 
mountain top of the creative experience.
 
You  are  the  perfected being of that  mountain  top.   You 
already are all that you can be.  Realize this truth and let 
that  realization be the beacon that lights the way  as  you 
accelerate  your  movement in the awakening  process  toward 
attaining  this  peak of perfection consciously.   There  is 
only one Light that illuminates the one path.  See that path 
clearly as you proceed to attain the perfected consciousness 
that is illuminated from within.
 
AWKNG:  70910 
    THE OMNI-DIMENSIONAL REALM 
   
   
Greetings  from  the  realm of inter-dimensional  and  omni- 
dimensional  existence.   This is the  realm  that  is  just 
beyond  the  veil of human awareness.  There is no  question 
any  longer  of  the existence of this realm for,  in  every 
segment  of human experience, the doorways are being opened, 
the  windows are being opened, the points of resistance  are 
dissolving  and there is a continuously expanding  statement 
and  awareness of this omni-dimensional realm that is beyond 
the  limitations that have been perceived and held onto  for 
so long within the human experience.
 
So  you  see,  it  is possible, not only  possible,   it  is 
probable, not only probable, it is inevitable that all souls 
embodied  in the earthly experience come face to  face  with 
this  interaction,  with  this omni-dimensional  realm.   It 
cannot be avoided for it is a pattern of expression that  is 
irreversibly  being manifested.  There are no  closets  with 
closed  doors that the consciousness of the soul can retreat 
into.   The doors have all been removed and it is  simply  a 
matter   of  time,  a  matter  of  exposure,  a  matter   of 
remembering  and  awakening to the depths  of  consciousness 
that  exist  within the expression of the  soul  manifesting 
within the earthly experience.
 
It  will  be seen by all that there is much more to what  is 
called  life than what has been presupposed or what one  has 
been  conditioned to believe.  So greetings and  welcome  to 
this omni-dimensional realm.
 
You  have  noticed that there is a great deal of interaction 
from   other   points   of  awareness,   other   points   of 
manifestation   that  are  interacting  with   the   earthly 
environment at this time.  There are innumerable reports  of 
such   interactions.   It  cannot  be  avoided   that   such 
interactions  are occurring.  It cannot be denied.   So  you 
see, the interactions that are occurring are very real.
 
The view of what is called a spacecraft or space vehicle  is 
not  a  correct  term  for  space  implies  that  there  are 
dimensions  that  can  be  measured  and  that   there   are 
relationships  and  a  standard of  existence  that  can  be 
quantified.   It  is  really  a  spaceless  environment,   a 
timeless  environment of which we speak.  But, for  purposes 
of  communication,  we use words that  can  be  interpreted. 
What  you call space is simply the points between manifested 
realities.   As this term is used, know that we  are  really 
speaking  of  an infinite panorama or spectrum of  existence 
and  that  there are certain points along this continuum  of 
existence that appear to have certain shapes, certain forms, 
certain   substance.   That  is  as   it   should   be   for 
manifestation   is  occurring  constantly   throughout   the 
continuum  of  existence.   When  we  say  there  have  been 
observed  certain  spacecraft  or  space  vehicles,  it   is 
observing  in  this spaceless, timeless environment  certain 
aspects   of  manifestation  that  take  on  a  substantive, 
quantitative  condition  for the purpose  of  communicating, 
sharing, and participating in the evolution of awareness  of 
not only Earth but of all consciousness.
 
So you see, that which has been observed change and modifies 
as perceptions are made and as awareness becomes unified.  A 
so  called  space vehicle observed to have four spokes  from 
the hub, from a center, and going out to what appears to  be 
a  circular  rim,  makes a statement of manifestation  where 
there is a more substantive statement being made.  The  same 
vehicle  can also be seen to have three spokes from the  hub 
as  part  of  the  creative impulse  that  is  bringing  the 
consciousness of creation into focus within all  aspects  of 
manifestation.    It  is  all  one.   Depending   upon   the 
application and the requirement for expanding awareness, the 
vision,  the  view,  the vehicle, the carrier  wave  of  the 
consciousness  of creation takes on that form  which  is  of 
importance and is currently applicable to the moment, to the 
very  essence  of the creative impulse being recognized  and 
aligned with at that moment.
 
So  it  is  a  most  interesting process  within  the  omni- 
dimensional realm.  It is as though you are on the shore  of 
a  vast  ocean.   Each wave that comes in  has  a  different 
shape, has a different form, has a different intensity,  and 
has  a  different purpose, although all application  of  the 
movement  of  this  ocean  of  consciousness  have  but  one 
purpose.   That  purpose  is  to  bring  the  shoreline   of 
resistance into an integrated alignment with this  ocean  of 
consciousness.   So  just  as  each  wave  has  a  different 
appearance, so does, within the conscious awareness  of  the 
omni-dimensional realm, each wave of impulse of the flow  of 
consciousness  from  that realm have a different  appearance 
and a different feel.
 
It  is  a  time when all along the shoreline are  called  to 
merge  with  this ocean of consciousness.  It  is  simply  a 
matter of releasing the resistance, of letting go of the old 
paradigms  of  existence, and blending with,  merging  with, 
flowing  out with the receding and evolving energy  of  this 
ocean  of consciousness.  It is like a magnet that is slowly 
pulling  the  boundaries of awareness into a unified  whole. 
There are of course those points of resistance that are like 
the  granite  blocks along the ocean shore that  resist  the 
pounding   and   the  continuous  call  of  the   waves   of 
consciousness  that repeatedly come into the environment  of 
the  consciousness  of  this resistance.   Eventually  these 
granite  blocks  are reduced to particles  of  sand  so  the 
inevitable  pathway  of  return  and  alignment   with   the 
consciousness of this ocean of awareness is not  a  question 
of  if  it  will happen, it is only a question of  when  the 
resistance will be no more.
 
So  feel these waves of consciousness coming from this realm 
of  omni-dimensional existence.  Resist not.  Merge with and 
flow  with that which is observed, that which is felt,  that 
which is known to be true.  Let that which is simply be what 
it  is.   Release all points of resistance.  Set  aside  and 
become  unattached  to all assumed realities.   Let  go  and 
dissolve  all  paradigms of existence  that  you  have  been 
conditioned   to   believe  are   true.    Know   that   the 
consciousness  you  are as a soul is one with  the  infinite 
consciousness  of creation.  Let the waves of  consciousness 
absorb  that  who  you are as you merge with  this  infinite 
ocean  of  awareness.  Feel the pulse of  creation  coursing 
through  every  cell  of  your physical,  emotional,  mental 
being.   Feel  even more so the infinite pulse  of  creation 
coursing through every cell of your consciousness.  Know the 
Oneness of all.  Be the Oneness of all.  I AM the Oneness of 
all.
 
I AM the Love, the Light, and the Life Force of creation.
 
AWRN:  70607 
Date: 	Sun, 12 Oct 1997 16:15:01 -1000 
From: Ruth Trimble <trimbleATnospamhawaii.edu> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Evolution?  
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95q.971012154924.8016D-100000ATnospamuhunix4> 
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
 
Hi This message came from Sunil Peswami:  I have some rejoinders...  
>>>> 
 All life is climbing up the hill of evolution. If we make a hill 
as high as a height of distant star from earth and if human life is as 
small as an ant. So each of us human beings is climbing this mountain of 
evolution and this mountain is covered with d ense forests. And hence we 
cannot climb straigt as the top is invisible and the path is unmarked and 
crooked.>>
 
Sorry I do not buy this image any more. I used to. It has been "sold" to 
us for so long by so many "religions" but the TRUTH is that we are perfect 
at every moment.. we are fully realised and the true essence every second 
of our existence. The problem is the misplacement of awareness on the mind 
or ego to the outside. When the awareness is correctly placed the truth is 
found.  This is Advaita. The truth is available to everyone at every 
single moment in time. There is NO SEARCH - there is NO EFFORT - there is 
no need to despair or struggle or be worried about EVOLUTION. Evolution is 
about the planet, about time and space, about genetics and about species. 
It is not about the awareness which is eternally present. 
 
I think it is time that this old thinking which has kept man tied and 
bound in illusions of "spiritual progress" be shot down and examined for 
what it is... Anyone, anywhere at any time can wake up to the truth. There 
is no  heirarchy about it.. and there is absolutely not effort involved. 
There is a humility perhaps.. that enables the experience of truth to 
enter... but if you follow the teachings of Advaita.. even this is not 
required. It can be found through the mind.. using the mind to find wht is 
not OF the mind. Step beyond the mind.. then you are THAT.. and it is with 
you enternally, has been eternally, and always will be.  It is that which 
is so truly YOU that you wonder how you overlooked it.  There is no 
seeking necessary for this.  
      
      The reason I believe so many teachers force 
their disciples to search and struggle is because of the nature of the 
human (particularly male) mind which does not accept or believe in the 
simple... somehow women seem more able to get this according to Osho and 
many others. The truth of who you are is at every moment breathing as you 
and living as you.. and that is the God and goal that you seek. So all 
that is required is to be still and know this. It seems to simple.. and 
yet it is true.  All this broohaha about searching and sacrifice.. well I 
think it was necessary for the past.. but today folks, you are being 
handed your god-realization on a plate.. for you have help coming from 
everywhere to get you to wake up to the truth.  The angels are practically 
dragging some of you along and kicking you and stuffing you with light and 
saying "WAKE UP."  They are kicking out your bad friends, and finding you 
new jobs and sending things to you so you can get along faster.   
Never before has there been so much help for you to get this NOW...  
So these ancient ways.. the ways of the Indian Gurus's and even the Buddha 
were fine for the past.. but I say they are too slow and outdated.. the 
universe is singing a new harmony for us. We are God's new experiment and 
his chosen ones.. just turn inside and BE. 
 
Well I guess I will get off the old soap box...  
That's my sermon for this Sunday...
 
Ruth--otherwise recognised in the galaxy as Nuith..Goddess of the Night 
Sky!   
****** 
Everytime one realizes something of the truth, there is a dance in the 
heart.  The heart is the only testimony for the truth. (Osho) 
---------------------------------------------------------------------- 
Ruth Trimble                            email:<trimbleATnospamhawaii.edu>  
    http://166.122.32.61/trimble/ 
***** 
Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 23:18:01 +0000 
From: Nancy <NancyATnospammagiccity.com> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: Evolution?  
Message-ID: <34415AA3.48DAATnospammagiccity.com> 
 
Ruth Trimble wrote:
 
>The angels are practically  dragging some of you along and kicking you and stuffing you with light and  saying "WAKE UP."  They are kicking out your bad friends, and finding you  new jobs and sending things to you so you can get along faster.  Never before has there been so much help for you to get this NOW... 
 
Can you tell me more about your perspective on this? Why are angels 
"stuffing" us with light? What is their role in interacting with us? Why 
is it important for us to wake up now? How do you believe this works?
 
I'm very interested in your views.
 
Namaste, 
Nancy 
Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 22:04:00 -0800 
From: valerian <madammumATnospamptialaska.net> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: sign the guestbook invitation 
Message-ID: <3441B9C2.3CC9ATnospamptialaska.net> 
 
thanx to a link on ruth trimble's web page, people can now sign my 
guestbook!!! 
this is a real breakthrough, as i have been e-mailing people for monthes 
about how to configure the GEOCITIES version. 
i imagine people have *things* to say to me...please try to be *gentle*, 
& i will respond in kind! 
:) 
thankyou in advance; 
v. 
--  
********************* 
valerie cooper 
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/7982/index.html 
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 12:32:41 +0500 (GMT+0500) 
From: Sunil R Peswani <peswaniATnospamgiaspn01.vsnl.net.in> 
To: Ruth Trimble <trimbleATnospamhawaii.edu> 
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: Evolution?  
Message-Id: <Pine.OSF.3.91.971013121856.23825A-100000ATnospamgiaspn01.vsnl.net.in> 
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
 
On Sun, 12 Oct 1997, Ruth Trimble wrote:
 
> Hi This message came from Sunil Peswami:  I have some rejoinders...  
> >>>> 
>  All life is climbing up the hill of evolution. If we make a hill 
> as high as a height of distant star from earth and if human life is as
 
>  
> Sorry I do not buy this image any more. I used to. It has been "sold" to 
> us for so long by so many "religions" but the TRUTH is that we are perfect 
> at every moment.. we are fully realised and the true essence every second 
> ***** 
>  
>  
>  
 But Ram agrees with Ruth. As I wrote that Guatam Buddha gave  
instantaneous Nirvana to any person who came forward by CHOICE. Now I am  
being told that highly evolved aliens have landed on Earth due to some  
favourable conditions and are going to give a boost to evolution. Those  
aliens coming may be Boddhisattvas , Adepts or Masters who can by  
Compassion help those of us who agree by CHOICE and help themselves.  
 Ram will be happy to join them for push to higher evolution. 
 It is told that the knowledge that Guatam Buddha received is  
benefitting more than 10,000 worlds of our type of evolution (In our part  
of galaxi). Gods and goddess of our deva planes benefitted earlier and  
now some other evolved world  is taking the advantage of this Wisdom.
 
Ram is waiting for any sign from these aliens. 
Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 23:31:03 -0800 
From: valerian <madammumATnospamptialaska.net> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: humble pie 
Message-ID: <3441CE1C.4C82ATnospamptialaska.net> 
 
i publically apologize for my extra-sharp criticisms this past week. 
it is my own malaise, projecting. 
please forgive me? 
i am trying & searching & praying to be better... 
v 
********************* 
valerie cooper 
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/7982/index.html 
Date: 	Sun, 12 Oct 1997 21:35:12 -1000 
From: Ruth Trimble <trimbleATnospamhawaii.edu> 
To: Sunil R Peswani <peswaniATnospamgiaspn01.vsnl.net.in> 
cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: Evolution?  
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95q.971012210359.2685D-100000ATnospamuhunix4> 
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
 
My Dear Sunil: 
I'm glad you did not feel picked on by my rejoinders.. it seems. I have 
been inculcated with the same messages that you have written and I did 
think I had to work hard and suffer much to get realized. But since I have 
had some experiences with the grace of Shri Ramana Marharshi, I have found 
that such hard work is not necessary for the state we are trying to 
achieve simply because we already exist as that. I am glad to see....that 
> >  
> 	But Ram agrees with Ruth. As I wrote that Guatam Buddha gave  
> instantaneous Nirvana to any person who came forward by CHOICE.  
Some people say that is what Jesus died for.. the same thing.. so we could 
choose to know the truth.  I believe that many beings have made the 
situation possible for me to writewhat I wrote.. ie. that we can choose 
now to know the truth without hardships and long taspasyas.
 
> Now I am  
> being told that highly evolved aliens have landed on Earth due to some  
> favourable conditions and are going to give a boost to evolution. Those  
Some of these are "walkins" who have switched souls with those who wished 
to leave the body. 
[snip]> aliens coming may be Boddhisattvas , Adepts or Masters who can by  
> Compassion help those of us who agree by CHOICE and help themselves.  
But there are beings not incarnate doing this too.. for if we fail here 
then a lot more than just our solar system suffers.. like ripples on a 
pond... we affect the cosmos. 
>Ram will be happy to join them for 
push to higher evolution. 
Like I said before Ram...Sunil...is it evolution you are talking about? 
Or is it what the Buddha was talking of SELF REALIZATION? I do not believe 
these are the same things. What man has not been aware of all these 
centuries because of genetic tampering by ET's in his DNA is that he is 
totally one with God. There is no intermediary..no teacher to tell him 
what to do...man is the divine. This knowledge has been cut off from man 
because he was incapable of picking up the message if you like. It is as 
if he had a too short aerial for his radio station, or his modem is too 
slow to get God's harmonies sent at a higher frequency.. with the new DNA 
and the changes going on with all the K'ites.. well then the tones and 
harmonies can be heard.. witness all the buzzing, popping, explosions and 
thunder in the head...!  Something is changing forsure!  People are not 
getting the message.. YOU ARE GOD! 
 
  It is told that the knowledge that Guatam Buddha received is  
> benefitting more than 10,000 worlds of our type of evolution (In our part  
> of galaxi). Gods and goddess of our deva planes benefitted earlier and  
> now some other evolved world  is taking the advantage of this Wisdom. 
> Ram is waiting for any sign from these aliens. 
Dear Ram.. why wait?. Tune in... go inside the heart.. roam there and 
explore there.. you will find all the worlds tht ever existed and will 
exist right inside you... you are THAT.. you are omnipresent...every 
single one of us is... there is no place anywhere that cannot be visited 
and no knowledge that we do not all have access to.   
You are these Gods and Goddesses.. .. after all you are here at this time 
for this auspicious awakening.  I feel.. truly speaking there is no such 
thing as an alien for all beings are ourselves. 
 Blessings, Namaste' Ruth 
 
****** 
Everytime one realizes something of the truth, there is a dance in the 
heart.  The heart is the only testimony for the truth. (Osho) 
---------------------------------------------------------------------- 
Ruth Trimble                            email:<trimbleATnospamhawaii.edu>  
    http://166.122.32.61/trimble/ 
***** 
Date: 	Sun, 12 Oct 1997 21:43:05 -1000 
From: Ruth Trimble <trimbleATnospamhawaii.edu> 
To: Sunil R Peswani <peswaniATnospamgiaspn01.vsnl.net.in> 
cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: Evolution?  
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95q.971012214202.2685M-100000ATnospamuhunix4> 
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
 
Hi Sunil and List 
 I made a typo 
I said:  thunder in the head...!  Something is changing forsure!  People 
are not 
getting the message.. YOU ARE GOD! 
>>>> 
Ofcourse it should be "People are NOW getting the message YOU ARE GOD!" 
Yikes those two little words mean a world of difference! 
Ruth  
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 10:33:47 +0200 
From: "Sen Ashanka"<sashankaATnospamaismi.ais.it> 
To: NancyATnospammagiccity.com 
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: re: Abundance of insight in India 
Message-Id: <C125652F.002EF392.00ATnospamais.it> 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
 
>>        What is happenning today is the path towards perfection. India 
needs 
>>        to learn a lot about material development and has a lot of 
spiritual 
>>        truths to give the world in return. 
> 
>This reminds me of Swami Vivekananda's dream...to pass on eastern 
>spiritual wisdom of the west and in return bring material comfort to the 
>east. I wonder if we're getting any closer to this ideal... 
> 
>Namaste, 
>Nancy
 
Yes, abslutely true, this has been the dream of Swami Vivekananda. 
As for getting any closer to the "goal", there is a story by Swamiji 
in one of his lectures. It was about a ghost who had come to a person's 
house and wanted to work for that man. The man asked the ghost to build 
him a house, get money, get cars etc. Once all the material wishes 
were fulfilled, the ghost (like a genie) still wanted work, and 
threatened to eat up the man if he did not get any more work.
 
So, the man asked the ghost to get hold of a dog, and hold his tail 
straight for some time and leave it. It it curls back, the ghost would 
have to hold the tail straight again for some time till finally the 
curled tail of the dog became straight. Well, the ghost was finally 
busy with straightening the curved tail of the dog to this day !!
 
In conclusion, Swami Vivekananda said that this world is the curved 
tail of the dog. It is our duty to straighten it, but as for the 
results, of the goal, that is not for us to decide or think about. 
Maybe we are getting closer to the ideal, maybe we are not. 
Saints come and go, governments come and go, criminals come and 
go, the world continues ever changing, ever evolving into newer 
manifestations of Energy states......
 
Cheers and love to all 
Ashanka 
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 13:01:40 +0200 
From: "Sen Ashanka"<sashankaATnospamaismi.ais.it> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: chakras and radionics 
Message-Id: <C125652F.003C62EB.00ATnospamais.it> 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
 
>A few years ago I was visiting a friend whose father was a practitioner of 
various >types of alternative medicine.  I happened to see a number of 
books on radionics >there.  Some of them seemed to have to do with 
measuring or manipulating energy in >the chakras.  If anybody has knowledge 
about this I'd like to hear about it. 
>Tom
 
There is a site on the Internet
 
http://www.thiaoouba.com/seeau.htm
 
They claim to have developed instruments to photograph the aura of persons 
and things. They also have e-mail addresses to correspond.
 
Looks interesting.
 
Cheers and love to all 
Ashanka 
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 08:03:09 -0400 
From: "F. Drew Leyda" <leydaATnospamvalunet.com> 
To: "Spirit-Mind-Body" <spirit-mind-bodyATnospamtikipub.com> 
Cc: "Kundalini" <Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>, 
 "Self Knowledge List" <selfknow-lATnospamspiritweb.org>, 
 "Sacred Wind" <sacredwindATnospamusa.net> 
Subject: Grounded 
Message-Id: <9710131450.AA07022ATnospamns.valunet.com> 
 
IMHO
 
How long has it been since you have walked barefoot in the grass ?
 
We talk of being grounded. I assume that means being connected to the 
ground , our Mother the Earth.
 
Remember, as a kid, jumping into puddles, rolling in the grass, dancing in 
the rain ?
 
Grounded .
 
* 
* 
Drew 
" So Far : So Good " 
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 07:46:28 -0500 
From: amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: Kundalini forum is us 
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Lobster wrote:
 
>The Kundalini forum is us. The movement of messages is 
>the K. It has both a gross and a subtle form. The opening 
>of particular debates would represent the flowering of 
>different chakras. As we can see this is very much a 
>random and undisciplined growth. Some are quite happy 
>with that . . .
 
I have had this thought also, but at a subconscious level. Lobster put it 
into words. I am very happy with this list in general. There were a few 
long-winded, somewhat over-intellecutalized posts a few days ago that 
seemed to belong more on the genius-l list than here, but I didn't want to 
stick my nose in about it. And of course that trend came and went without 
my intervention. 
You are all a blessing to me. I love getting so many perspectives. Back 
when my K. was spontaneously activated I got some very bad and destructive 
"advice" and was given to believe that it was the only "truth" there was. 
Thank you all for being so different from each other! I've always valued 
having many choices. Baskin-Robbins 31 flavors!
 
Love, 
amckeon 
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 07:55:13 -0500 
From: FIute <FIuteATnospamprodigy.net> 
To: "kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>, 
 Ruth Trimble <trimbleATnospamhawaii.edu> 
Subject: Re: Evolution? 
Message-ID: <34421A31.58FBATnospamprodigy.net> 
 
Ruth Trimble wrote: 
>  
> Hi Sunil and List 
>  I made a typo 
> I said:  thunder in the head...!  Something is changing forsure!  People 
> are not 
> getting the message.. YOU ARE GOD! 
> >>>> 
> Ofcourse it should be "People are NOW getting the message YOU ARE GOD!" 
> Yikes those two little words mean a world of difference! 
> Ruth 
Amergene the fist recorded poet aalso said.. You are God.. only by 
saying 
"I am the wind rushing across the sky" etc.  I'll see i I can find the 
poem.. Its totally beautiful and states that we are a part of all there 
is. 
Love, 
flute
 
 
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