1997/10/06 11:25
kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #496
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 97 : Issue 496
Today's Topics:
Re: everybody wants to rule the *world*
Uniqueness Vs. Equality
Re: Uniqueness Vs. Equality
Re: favorite charities
Re: Uniqueness Vs. Equality
Ulee's Gold?
White Light
Re: White Light
Re: Ulee's Gold?
Re: White Light
Re: Ulee's Gold?
white light
Re: Ulee's Gold?
Re: Ulee's Gold?
Healing Across The Internet
Re: favorite charities
Re: Ulee's Gold?
Date: Sun, 05 Oct 1997 10:18:46 -0400
From: David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net>
To: Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: everybody wants to rule the *world*
Message-ID: <3437A1C6.757FATnospammail.snet.net>
valerian wrote:
> if we are *all one* what are we doing to progress thusly? are we *all
> one*, or are we 'individuals'? can we be our *self* & still be an
> intricate part of this 'web of life'?
Let me rephrase this question. I believe you are asking is it possible
to move through the ego experience while still retaining our divine
connection to the whole.
This is what healing is. It is important to
realize that there is a place where we hear both the voice of ego and
the voice of Spirit. There is a great release in being honest about
this and accepting that our experience does have illusion in it.
On the level where we are now there is really no way we can fix this
perceived problem. This is a place of waiting, and trust. We patiently
wait in the heart. Ego finds it
difficult to surrender to that which is unseen, while it seems
easy to cling to external gods of illusion which are quite apparent.
Ego believes we are losing something if we surrender our individualism.
Our specialness. It cannot trust there is perhaps something better.
What our individuality actually is, is limitation. Show me an individual
and I show you a boundry. But let me say that no one can figure their
way
out of the ego predicament. That is working within the problem. The
source of liberation is something that is not perceived. And so we
sit with where we are, and trust. This is beyond ego and something
ego cannot understand.
Date: Sun, 5 Oct 1997 23:17:59 -0400
From: "Ed Arrons" <eeaATnospamaug.com>
To: <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Uniqueness Vs. Equality
Message-Id: <199710060318.XAA10806ATnospamsandia.aug.com>
Dare we know our own uniqueness so deeply to see the equality in all.
Date: Sun, 05 Oct 1997 20:26:38 -0700
From: Ken McFarland <kenmATnospamOREGON.UOREGON.EDU>
To: Ed Arrons <eeaATnospamaug.com>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Uniqueness Vs. Equality
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At 11:17 PM 10/5/97 -0400, Ed Arrons wrote:
>Dare we know our own uniqueness so deeply to see the equality in all.
At least one great individual did.
See: http://guess.worldweb.net/sufi/inayat.html
Love Seeker,
Ken
Date: Sun, 5 Oct 1997 21:00:19 -0700 (PDT)
From: M <chooseagainATnospamthegrid.net>
To: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: favorite charities
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At 04:20 PM 10/5/97, Mystress Angelique Serpent wrote:
>At 17:26 04/10/97 -0700, M wrote:
>>Mine are anything to do with eyes and eysight, <..>
>>I just love visual beauty,,,paintings, nature, faces, etc.)
>there are many folks
>pretty invested in a cure for cancer not being found. An example of this,
>is a cancer society I won't name, fundraising by selling 6" red lollipos
>containing huge amount of a known carcinogenic red dye.
YIKES!
> Tracy Ullman did a hilarious sketch of a Fundraising lady having a huge
>temper tantrum when the sick children's cause she has planned a big
>fundraising event for, must be cauncelled because a cure has been found.
She is brillant, no? Actually that did happen with March of Dimes and polio
--so they changed the disease and kept it going.
> The K. list is my "foster child". :)
I am glad you took us all on :-)
> A cool thing they do, is to covertly build hiking paths thru the
>wilderness areas they are trying to protect. This is major physical labour
>involving building walkways and stuff, so foot traffic won't erode the
>delicate rainforest environment. Then they promote the heck out of them..
>An isolated area that CanFor, or one of the big companies thinks no one
>will notice being clearcut, suddenly has a few hundred folks hiking thru it
>weekly, and writing to their elected officials to have it protected as a
>park.. and it has been working!!
Like a very effective finesse!!! I approve.
>> So I devote lot of my time in service to the evolution of
>others.. teaching to learn.. sometimes I get paid for it, more often no..,
>but I trust good karma pays threefold returns. I am having fun, anyway,
>which is another important aspect of successful giving..
Ah yes, well, of course.
> So allowing self interest to guide you in choice of charities is not such
>a bad thing.
> To play with a twist of logic, it is better to give than to recieve
>because Karma will repay the giver threefold, great investment.. whereas
>the reciever will get only the charity.
I like the twist.
> To be honest, tho.. most folks asking me for a donation, get K. fire, not
>cash. The force of the miraculous is more useful than money, and
>impossible to corrupt. It is not something that everybody can give in such
>abundance, either.. if I use K. fire to cast an etheric "Lighthouse" for a
>charity event, for example, then it will likely double the attendance..
Wonderful...thanks for the response,
M
Date: Sun, 5 Oct 1997 21:05:11 -0700 (PDT)
From: M <chooseagainATnospamthegrid.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Uniqueness Vs. Equality
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At 08:26 PM 10/5/97 -0700, Ken McFarland wrote:
>At 11:17 PM 10/5/97 -0400, Ed Arrons wrote:
>>Dare we know our own uniqueness so deeply to see the equality in all.
>
>At least one great individual did.
>See: http://guess.worldweb.net/sufi/inayat.html
>
>Love Seeker,
>Ken
And I worry about daring to "eat a peach"...tisk, tisk. M
Date: Sun, 5 Oct 1997 18:51:03 -1000
From: Ruth Trimble <trimbleATnospamhawaii.edu>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Ulee's Gold?
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Hi could not help but jump in to the beeeeee business...
>>Here's a left turn:
I have a friend who is a beekeeper. He makes about half his money
renting his hives out to farmers who need crops pollinated. Major crop
failures have been traced to the rampant demise of the wild bee
population. Recently there has been a major epedemic that as hit
beekeepers hard, but destroyed wild bees.
Cool guy.. when the arthritis in his shoulder acts up, he grabs a bee
and stings himself there with it.. the arthritis pain goes away for about
10 days.
Blessings, Mystress.
>>>
This is just one more piece of the picture of how our environment is
changing....any one know about the algae? Has anyone noticed its demise
also? this idea of bee sting for arthritis is interesting.. what do you
suppose happensto the arthritis.. is the sting a kind of numbing agent?
Curious..
*****
Date: Sun, 5 Oct 1997 19:05:49 -1000
From: Ruth Trimble <trimbleATnospamhawaii.edu>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: White Light
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95q.971005190103.8532E-100000ATnospamuhunix4>
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I found something about white light and would caution this use of it.
>>If a part of me, is more tense than the others, after this, I direct the
white light from the crown to the area that needs attention, until the
tension goes away.
>>>
My healer says that white light is a "frozen" force. She had a friend in
labor and all her girlfriends were sending her white light for the
strength to have the baby.. but it would not come.. and the poor woman was
getting desperate. Then someone mentioned her friends were sending her
light and she said, "What color?" and they said "white" and she said, "No
wonder the baby will not move.. that is the light to keep things status
quo and frozen. Tell them to stop it now." So the message was relayed and
soon after the baby arrived. It is the color light of religion which holds
you rather than allows you to mutate, grow, expand and evolve.
I think you might find out more on this in Amorah Quan Yin's book, The
Pleiadean Workbook.
Ruth
*****
Date: Sun, 05 Oct 1997 22:11:13 -0700
From: indra <indraATnospamsmartt.com>
To: Ruth Trimble <trimbleATnospamhawaii.edu>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: White Light
Message-ID: <343872F1.3072ATnospamsmartt.com>
Ruth Trimble wrote:
>
> I found something about white light and would caution this use of it.
> My healer says that white light is a "frozen" force. She had a friend in..................It is the color light of religion which holds
> you rather than allows you to mutate, grow, expand and evolve.
> I think you might find out more on this in Amorah Quan Yin's book, The
> Pleiadean Workbook.
> *****
White light is the combined force of all colors. This is an established
fact. I am rather skeptic about the phenomenon mentioned in this post.
Spirituality transcends realms of reason but it has to pass through the
realm of reason.
Indra
Date: Sun, 05 Oct 1997 21:46:27 -0800
From: valerian <madammumATnospamptialaska.net>
To: Ruth Trimble <trimbleATnospamhawaii.edu>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Ulee's Gold?
Message-ID: <34387ADA.7275ATnospamptialaska.net>
Ruth Trimble wrote:
>
> Hi could not help but jump in to the beeeeee business...
> >>Here's a left turn:
> I have a friend who is a beekeeper. He makes about half his money
> renting his hives out to farmers who need crops pollinated. Major crop
> failures have been traced to the rampant demise of the wild bee
> population. Recently there has been a major epedemic that as hit
> beekeepers hard, but destroyed wild bees.
> Cool guy.. when the arthritis in his shoulder acts up, he grabs a bee
> and stings himself there with it.. the arthritis pain goes away for about
> 10 days.
> Blessings, Mystress.
> >>>
> This is just one more piece of the picture of how our environment is
> changing....any one know about the algae? Has anyone noticed its demise
> also? this idea of bee sting for arthritis is interesting.. what do you
> suppose happensto the arthritis.. is the sting a kind of numbing agent?
> Curious..
> *****
v: well, i only know each worker bee must give it's life to sting
someone. that's quite the sacrifice!
my stepfather was allergic to beestings, & had to go to the emergency
room when he once got stung, because he could die; whatever is in that
venom.
pretty strong stuff!
who knows what's medicinal (or life threatening) about bee stings?
what element is there so potent?
i'll look up my story of
-(minus)protoplankton-(minus)algae-(minus)-fishes in a Michigan lake, in
my environmental science book. caused by toxic dumping, of course...
Date: Sun, 05 Oct 1997 21:55:13 -0800
From: valerian <madammumATnospamptialaska.net>
To: indra <indraATnospamsmartt.com>
CC: Ruth Trimble <trimbleATnospamhawaii.edu>, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: White Light
Message-ID: <34387CE6.70F5ATnospamptialaska.net>
indra wrote:
>
> Ruth Trimble wrote:
> >
> > I found something about white light and would caution this use of it.
>
> > My healer says that white light is a "frozen" force. She had a friend in..................It is the color light of religion which holds
> > you rather than allows you to mutate, grow, expand and evolve.
> > I think you might find out more on this in Amorah Quan Yin's book, The
> > Pleiadean Workbook.
>
> > *****
> Indra:White light is the combined force of all colors. This is an established
> fact. I am rather skeptic about the phenomenon mentioned in this post.
> Spirituality transcends realms of reason but it has to pass through the
> realm of reason.
v: oh wait... right! in *painting* white is the total absence of color,
& black is all colors combined.
but i cannot fathom how *white light* - the light of pure *spirit* could
signify 'stagnation', or anything bad.
can anyone elaborate on this?
Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 02:09:08 -0400
From: imtgATnospamjuno.com (tg xxx)
To: trimbleATnospamhawaii.edu
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Ulee's Gold?
Message-ID: <19971006.021045.29046.56.imtgATnospamjuno.com>
Angelique wrote...<<<<Cool guy.. when the arthritis in his shoulder acts
up, he grabs a beeand stings himself there with it.. the arthritis pain
goes away for about
10 days.
Ruth questioned... << this idea of bee sting for arthritis is
interesting.. what do you
suppose happens to the arthritis.. is the sting a kind of numbing agent?
Curious.>>
And I, in all of my great wisdom, replied....
Nahhh..... the reason it works good is the bee sting hurts SO bad that
you forget all about the arthritis.... then when the sting stops hurting
(takes about 10 days), 'ere it comes again....
Kinda like Kundalini -- it hurts sooo bad to be here that we go on this
BIG search for whatever it is we are searching for. So we activate this
K thang to forget about the pain of being here..... (and then when the K
settles down and if we forget once again, we begin searching one mo'
time)
oh never mind. it's late and I gotta go to bed.
(another theory down the drain)
xxxtg
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Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 02:14:34 -0400
From: "Sharon Webb" <shawebbATnospamyhc.edu>
To: <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: white light
Message-Id: <199710060624.CAA15018ATnospamhoboken>
Hi,
>>v: oh wait... right! in *painting* white is the total absence of color,
>>& black is all colors combined.
This is backwards. We are not talking about leaving a piece of canvas
devoid of pigment and therefore white. We are talking about light. Color
*is* light. Light radiates at varying frequencies and these varying
frequencies determine color. Black is the absense of light...and therefore
the absense of all color. White light combines the frequencies of all
colors and radiates at the highest frequency of all.
As far as the concept of white light being "frozen" or "static," this
strikes me as somebody's notion that they came up with because ice is white
and frozen. White light, in fact, is the most dynamic and energetic of
all.
Sharon
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Date: Mon, 06 Oct 1997 03:13:59 -0400
From: acarre <acarreATnospamconcentric.net>
To: tg xxx <imtgATnospamjuno.com>
CC: trimbleATnospamhawaii.edu, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Ulee's Gold?
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Hello tg,
tg xxx wrote:
> Angelique wrote...<<<<Cool guy.. when the arthritis in his shoulder
> acts
> up, he grabs a beeand stings himself there with it.. the arthritis
> pain
> goes away for about
> 10 days.
>
> Ruth questioned... << this idea of bee sting for arthritis is
> interesting.. what do you suppose happens to the arthritis.. is the
> sting a kind of numbing agent? Curious.>>
>
> And I, in all of my great wisdom, replied....
> Nahhh..... the reason it works good is the bee sting hurts SO bad that
>
> you forget all about the arthritis.... then when the sting stops
> hurting
> (takes about 10 days), 'ere it comes again....
>
> Kinda like Kundalini -- it hurts sooo bad to be here that we go on
> this
> BIG search for whatever it is we are searching for. So we activate
> this
> K thang to forget about the pain of being here..... (and then when the
> K
> settles down and if we forget once again, we begin searching one mo'
> time)
>From my kung fu experience where we stay long hours in very
uncomfortable position, like sitting on a chair, but with nochair to
support you, for 30 minutes, (try it, just 2 minute, you'll see what is
pain :)). The circulation of blodd in the muscle is alsmot stopped after
10 minutes, reason of the pain, and the only way to bring energy for the
cells there is by a very focussed attention, that pain developpe with
time. This bring more energy in the body, healing Light... When you
stand up and the pain goes again, The surplus energy brouth in will help
energise the body or cure faster a lot off other kinds off wounds one
can have.
In the same way the bee could act for arthritis. Where attention is
energy flows, and pain is good way to get our attention.
In Chi Kung, an healing art par of kung fu, another exemble would be how
they treath bronchitis, by scraping off a very thin layer off skin on
the back in specific place. The bring more chi, they call it, the the
bronchoal tubes, usuality it's cured in less than 3 days if well done.
Better than antibiotic, no?
Antoine
Date: Mon, 06 Oct 1997 00:13:56
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: Ruth Trimble <trimbleATnospamhawaii.edu>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Ulee's Gold?
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At 18:51 05/10/97 -1000, Ruth Trimble wrote:
> Cool guy.. when the arthritis in his shoulder acts up, he grabs a bee
>and stings himself there with it.. the arthritis pain goes away for about
>10 days.
> Blessings, Mystress.
>>>>
>This is just one more piece of the picture of how our environment is
>changing....any one know about the algae? Has anyone noticed its demise
>also? this idea of bee sting for arthritis is interesting.. what do you
>suppose happens to the arthritis.. is the sting a kind of numbing agent?
>Curious..
>*****
>
As I understand it, the sting causes heat and increased circulation,
which eases the arthritis pain. Hope he never turns allergic!
Algae is plentiful, here in Vancouver.. it overtakes vertical surfaces,
in the winter rainy season. By spring, every wet wood or stone surface is
green.
The amphibian family is being wiped out wholesale: their thin froggy
skins cannot handle increased uv. Some entire species have disappeared in a
single season.
Commercial hemp.. the non intoxicant variety.. is being grown in some
places, as a seed and fibre crop. It is the perfect food for humans, and so
this is a good thing. What has been discovered tho.. and not spoken of,
much, is the discovery that the cannibas plant produces it's THC rich
resin, to protect from excess UV. A plant for the future!!
Blessings, Mystress.
Mystress Angelique Serpent,
Dominant Experiential Facilitator.
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Subject: Healing Across The Internet
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Please send healing Energy to April Curry, whose mother is making this
request of our Healing circle. April was in a serious automobile
accident and has had a severe head injury. She is in the Health Care
Rehab in Austin, Texas.
Her Mother is a Reiki Master who is in Austin to be with her daughter,
she lives in another part of the state and needs your strength to deal
with this tradegy. Lynda C. Starrett was specifically sent to us and our
healing circle by a number of people that knew of our Healing Across the
Internet.
All of You have helped so many in the past year and although I have been
unable to be on line for about a week, the request have come from people
.. face to face or over the phone. Blessings to all of you as well.
Love,
flute
Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 22:21:18 +1000 (EST)
From: Graham.DumpletonATnospamnms.otc.com.au (Graham Dumpleton)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: favorite charities
Message-Id: <199710061221.WAA27988ATnospambaldric.pad.otc.com.au>
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> For Kundalites, anyway, there is a self interest aspect to charity
> that is a given: might as well surrender to it- service serves our
> personal evolution. So I devote lot of my time in service to the
> evolution of others.. teaching to learn.. sometimes I get paid for it,
> more often no.., but I trust good karma pays threefold returns. I am
> having fun, anyway, which is another important aspect of successful
> giving.. So allowing self interest to guide you in choice of charities
> is not such a bad thing. To play with a twist of logic, it is better
> to give than to recieve because Karma will repay the giver threefold,
> great investment.. whereas the reciever will get only the charity..
> which is often accompanied in some folks by self esteem lowering.. .
> To to be really charitable, be the reciever sometimes, and let other
> folks get the giver's warmth. Good practice for somedays' old age
> helplessness and dependence. We come in depending on the kindness of
> others, and most go out the same way.. and we have the illusion of
> independence, for some of the middle time.
If there is "self interest" in such actions, are you really advancing
your "personal evolution". I quote from "Karma Yoga" by "Jagad Guru",
who puts it much better than I could at the moment. Source of this
quoation is "http://www.cebu-online.com/lifeforce/karma_yoga.html".
In this life, we are engaging in actions. Generally speaking, these
actions create karmic reactions. But it is not action itself which causes
karmic reaction. This is explained by the Supreme Person in the
Bhagavad-gita to Arjuna. The Supreme Person states:
"One who executes his duties according to My injunctions and who
follows this teaching faithfully without envy becomes free from the
bondage of fruitive actions." Bhagavad-gita Chapter 13 Text 31
Arjuna is a warrior who is meant to protect the innocent people and kill
the rascals who create havoc in society. He's supposed to fight a great
battle against many demoniac enemies. But killing is considered the
ultimate sin. Arjuna is concerned about this. If a person kills, then the
karmic reaction to that is that he must be killed. If you cause someone
else to suffer, then you must suffer. Arjuna doesn't want to kill because
he doesn't want to have bad karma coming onto himself. This is one reason
he doesn't want to fight.
The Supreme Person explains to Arjuna, "It is not non-action which is
going to make it so that you are going to be free from the bondage of
karmic reaction. You're not going to get away from it by not doing
anything. You must still act."
So the question in Arjuna's mind as well as in other people's mind is,
"How can I act without any negative reaction because of those
activities?"
ACT FOR GOD'S PLEASURE
First, let us define "fruitive action." Fruitive means you act selfishly
for some fruit or return ( e.g. money, respect, award, etc. ). You want
to receive some compensation for a particular action. In other words,
you're doing it for yourself.
The Supreme Person tells Arjuna that the way out of karmic reaction is
not to stop acting, but to stop acting fruitively. The way out is to stop
acting for your own self, for your own pleasure, according to your own
will. Instead, you must act for the pleasure of the Supreme Being. You
must do your duties according to God's instructions or His injunctions.
Do it without envy, then you become free from the bondage of fruitive
reactions.
The Supreme Person further states:
"Therefore, O Arjuna, surrendering all your works unto Me, with mind
intent on Me and without desire for gain and free from egoism and
lethargy, fight." Bhagavad-gita Chapter 3 Text 30
A person who engages in activities in the service of and for the pleasure
of the Supreme Person is not bound by those activities. He also becomes
purified of all past karmic reactions. He becomes completely free from
the bondage of fruitive reactions.
This is applicable to anyone, whether or not Kundalini is an active part
of their life. If anything, the complete opposite of "self interest" is
something which is ideally practicised by those for which Kundalini is
reality. Kundalini is a powerful force and can be applied for good or evil.
Look at Eastern traditions and you will find that they teach that the
pursuit of Kundalini should only be done under the direction of a master.
Part of this is because they know that Kundalini can be applied for both
good and evil. By trying to control initiation into Kundalini they are
attempting to ensure you have the right stuff. This goes beyond worldly
morality. Just because someone shows high morals doesn't mean that they are
a spiritual person, they still could be acting out of self interest and are
expecting to reap benefits from their efforts. When we do something we
should do it with the single minded intent of doing it in the service of
and for God.
--
Graham Dumpleton (grahamdATnospamnms.otc.com.au)
Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 02:09:08 -0400
From: imtgATnospamjuno.com (tg xxx)
To: trimbleATnospamhawaii.edu
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Ulee's Gold?
Message-ID: <19971006.114051.10862.1.imtgATnospamjuno.com>
Angelique wrote...<<<<Cool guy.. when the arthritis in his shoulder acts
up, he grabs a beeand stings himself there with it.. the arthritis pain
goes away for about
10 days.
Ruth questioned... << this idea of bee sting for arthritis is
interesting.. what do you
suppose happens to the arthritis.. is the sting a kind of numbing agent?
Curious.>>
And I, in all of my great wisdom, replied....
Nahhh..... the reason it works good is the bee sting hurts SO bad that
you forget all about the arthritis.... then when the sting stops hurting
(takes about 10 days), 'ere it comes again....
Kinda like Kundalini -- it hurts sooo bad to be here that we go on this
BIG search for whatever it is we are searching for. So we activate this
K thang to forget about the pain of being here..... (and then when the K
settles down and if we forget once again, we begin searching one mo'
time)
oh never mind. it's late and I gotta go to bed.
(another theory down the drain)
xxxtg
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