1997/10/01 11:08
kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #481
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 97 : Issue 481
Today's Topics:
Re: Surrender
Re: Surrender
And Mystress said "Goddess will give you what you need"
Aura colors and Saint Germain
Re: Ego/ego
Re: Negativity and Aura colors
Reply to replies
Re: Reply to replies
Good to listen to you all!
Need to find Yoga Association in UK to point me to kundalini classes
Re: Reply to replies
sister mary elephant faux pas
prayer request
Jet Engines...
Date: Wed, 01 Oct 1997 03:03:49 -0400
From: acarre <acarreATnospamconcentric.net>
To: Eric Kieselhorst <redATnospamearthlink.net>,
"Mailing list (Kundalini)" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Surrender
Message-ID: <3431F5D4.B23C017FATnospamconcentric.net>
Hello Eric,
Funny things those computers... Your message staid as not read, even
after opening it more than once, so I feel i must respond. Maybe will
it, finally be marked as read by my Netscape software after that. (
First time I see this bug on the version 4 of Netscape, anyone
experienced yet?). Strange but True.
>From this I make of it that I must surrender and go to bed...
Maybe there is more, so I'll tell you the image that first come to me
when I read your post this afternoon.
It's only a trick, a first step to surrendering completely. Others in
the list told in a nice way what total surrendering is. It's up to you
to open deep inside. "We can point the moon, if you look at the finger
you'll never see it" or you'll see it , later., but not now it was that
we where pointing at.. So here it is, my vision....
-----------------------------
Go outside near a tree, those very olds ones, stand legs apart, arms to
the sky, feel the earth beneath you, feel it going up wanting to reach
the sky. And scream 3 times, very loud.
"I surrender to you (whatever is the name of your biggest entity), take
me, burn me, I'm all yours."
- ----------------------------
If your message stays as not read, I'll keep it on my files, as a
reminder.
Antoine,
Always amazed buy what happens in every second of this existence...
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Eric Kieselhorst wrote:
> Hi K-list folks. I need some advice. Last night while asleep
> my entire body felt as though there was a jet engine inside it
> on full throttle. In the dream I couldn't hear myself yell over
> the deafening roar, while at the same time my body was seriously
> vibrating and contorting into various positions in response to
> this energy (in my dream that is). While still in the dream I
> thought to myself "Well, at least I have the K-list to talk with
> after this is over."
>
> When I finally awoke I was drained and full of energy; my spine
> was vibrating up a storm. I thought about the advice you all have
> given others in the past about surrendering to the process. Something
> Gloria said in a recent post came to mind; when you're feeling anxious
>
> ask yourself if you're ok right now, if the answer is yes, focus on
> that since the "now" is the only thing that is real. (I apologize if
> I'm misquoting\paraphrasing here). So I'm lying there saying "yes
> I'm okay right now" over and over. Then a little voice in me said,
> "Well that's all fine and dandy, but where will you be to reassure
> me when you fall back asleep?!" I actually laughed out loud at that,
> but I really don't have an answer for the question.
>
> How do I surrender to the process while asleep? Much of my K activity
> seems to happen while asleep. The roar I speak of has in the past been
>
> isolated to my head. This is the first time it was my entire body. I
> felt as though my body was going to disintegrate from the vibration
> and
> sound.
>
> In a more general sense, how do all of you surrender to the process?
> (that is to say, for those who approach it in that manner). Are there
> particular methods, visualizations, affirmations etc that seem to work
>
> for you? Do any of these help when K activity arises while you sleep?
>
> Thank you all in advance for any advice you might have to offer.
>
> eric
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 1997 09:51:53 +0200
From: "Sen Ashanka"<sashankaATnospamaismi.ais.it>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Surrender
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Hi Eric,
>How do I surrender to the process while asleep? Much of my K activity
>seems to happen while asleep. The roar I speak of has in the past been
>isolated to my head. This is the first time it was my entire body. I
>felt as though my body was going to disintegrate from the vibration and
>sound.
Yes, yes, your experience is very similar to what I have been through
several times.
In the beginning these "escapes" out of the body felt as though I was going
through
the Niagara falls. Sometimes they were smooth exits out of the body.
For the past one year have established a regular "japa" done through out
the day.
"Japa" is an Indian terms meaning the regular chanting of your favourite
God. So
in this manner our mind and attention is constantly controlled and
concentrated.
While going to sleep also I have tried to get full body relaxation while
trying to
chant the name of the Lord. In this manner, during sleep, the consciousness
"jumps"
out of the body and then you are wide awake, but can move around, rise,
float
and you might even be able to "see" your lifeless body.
>This is the first time it was my entire body. I
>felt as though my body was going to disintegrate from the vibration and
>sound.
The Indian texts say that matter is condensed energy, and can be
transferred from
one form to another by will. This is exactly what you felt, and what you
felt is very
much the truth.
Regular control of the mind through meditation, or chanting, or reading
spiritual texts
could be very helpful. There are, however, a lot of things to do once you
are out of
the body. That's something I am trying to figure out myself, and have
received lots
of help and guidance from members of the list who have travelled this path.
Cheers and love to all
Ashanka
Date: Wed, 01 Oct 1997 00:25:40
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: And Mystress said "Goddess will give you what you need"
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>To: kundalini-l-ownerATnospamexecpc.com
>From: Zarcon
>Subject: And Mystress said "Goddess will give you what you need"
>
>Please post as anonymous
>
>thank you
>
>--------------------------------------------------------------
>And the need is great and the need is small
>Be that as it may, the need is all
>Call upon the One today
>Ask Help in such a way
>That God(dess) sent Angels appear
>next to you and net to me my dear
>And now the aura doth glow bright
>I've been to heaven in starlight
>twinkling, vibrating, floating on high
>Purple Gold Blue Green and Red
>The light is pure the light is white
>other colours are all right
>The pain! the pain! it subsides
>Growth and K soon arrives
>Heaven sent second sight
>Curse or Blessing know not I
>Ask God(dess) Ask Mystress
>Which is so
>Teach me train me help me Please
>Kundalini is no breeze
>learning is so difficult for some
>others cherish it and enjoy the fun
>the light is good the light is right
>Kundalini is outta sight
>
>Love and Light to All
>Zarcon
>i am of the ages
>
>
Mystress Angelique Serpent,
Dominant Experiential Facilitator.
Website= http://www.domin8rex.com/serpent
:D ;) :0 :) ;P :0 ;) :D :0 :) ;P :0 ;) :)
Swami Beyondananda on the Golden Rule: "It seems that when
masochists do unto others as they wish to be done unto, they
become sadists," the Swami said. "Consequently, the Golden Rule
has been recalled by the Maker until this design flaw can be fixed."
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Vancouver, B.C., Canada. Officially the most beautiful city in the world.
Date: Wed, 01 Oct 1997 01:29:56
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: LibraKat11ATnospamaol.com
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Aura colors and Saint Germain
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>>At 20:59 30/09/97 -0400, LibraKat11ATnospamaol.com wrote:
>Dear tg,
> I kept hearing the name St. Germane
>(sp.?) and when I finally acknowledged that last night, the purple sort of
>flamed into a huge shimmering shape. So now my question is this: Who the
>heck is St. Germane??
>I appreciate your input on the negativity. I do know in my heart that it
>will pass (as averything does, thank goodness!!), but I've been puzzled about
>it appearing so suddenly and being sooo bothered by it.
>>At 21:18 29/09/97, yesterday.. Mystress wrote:
>> Goddess gives you what you need.. the violet flame of Saint Germain..
>>crown chakra stuff.. it is a purifying force, use it against the
>>negativity. Surround yourself and others with it, to transmute the negative
>>energy.
>> Blessings, Mystress.
Sorry, Kathy, that I was not clearer in my earlier post, I was hurrying.. :o
You are being blessed with the violet flame of St. Germain. He was a
mystic.. ascended master.. Saint.
It is to be used as a force to transmute the negative energy you are also
being sensitised to. That is why both things are happening at the same
time. Put them together, they cauncel each other out. Cool, eh? You have
become a healer of negative energy. Blessed be!!
This is so you can really go to work, healing the negative energy aound
you.. It is easier to be in a higher vibration when surrounded by others of
a higher vibration, eh? So clear the energy of the folks around you who are
hurting.. and be around more happy folks.. it is a good deal, karma pays
you really well, dividends, bonuses, the whole executive package..:D
One of the side effects I noticed, was a wierd attraction to purple silk
shirts.. I just kept finding them cheap in secondhand shops, irresistable,
bought them all.. the enhancement of the violet flame effect, by wearing
the color, and honoring self and energy with good natural fibres. Yummy
vibrations.
Heart- chakra green silk..makes me go ooohh and shiver.. wierd but I like
it..
Color therapy and chakras could be a whole other thread..
For a website that explains it more fully, than unscholarly hedonistic me
can, or really, wants to, try:
http://205.243.132.23/vi-flame.html
It will tell you that :
>The Violet Flame is also the supreme antidote for emotional and
>psychological problems. It can clear anger, stress and depression. The
>scars of old hurts and painful memories are healed and dissolved when this
>healing balm of the Holy Spirit is applied.
..and how to use it, to do that.. it is a very useful blessing!!
For a thousand websites that explain it, go to
http://altavista.digital.com/cgi-bin/query?pg=q&what=web&kl=en&q=%22the+viol
et+flame+%22+%2B+%22Saint+Germain%22+&search.x=32&search.y=6
Goddess gives you what you need, you are never given anything you cannot
handle. Cosmic promise!! You are safe in Her arms, once the Serpents awaken..
Blessings, Mystress.
Date: Wed, 01 Oct 1997 12:02:16 -0700
From: E Jason <vv60ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Ego/ego
Message-ID: <34329E38.6D0ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
Morgana Wyze wrote:
> I work with geniune schizophrenics, and there is NOTHING spiritual about
> their state. There could be people who are mis-diagnosed, but a genuine
> schizo has very dark and angry energy, a child-like mental state, and
> thinks in circle instead of logical sequential thought. There is no
> genuine creativity which I have observed in these thoughts...they are
> not associative, simply subjective reactions.
> Morgana
Many people with mental health problems are drawn to spirituality because the ideas
expressed are sometimes considered 'crazy'.
Some very dangerous and unstable people become the heads, leaders of communities of
'seekers'. This is why I place such a high value on personal discrimination. We must
learn how to discriminate between genuine spirituality and nonsense.
Some people (I include myself in this category) have aspects of instability. They are not
complete or whole. The important thing is to recognise oursleves as (in Shamanistic
terms) 'the wounded healer'. It is our transformation, our seeking, our movement from
pain to joy, ill health to health, incompletenes to completeness, materiality to
spirituality and so on, that is part of our learning. This is of benefit to others.
So do not despair dear friend
wherever you are
you will change and grow
with time you shall understnd the blessing of turmoil
with time . . .
Most Kind Regards
Lobster
Date: Wed, 01 Oct 1997 07:03:59 +0000
From: Nancy <NancyATnospammagiccity.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Negativity and Aura colors
Message-ID: <3431F5DE.132FATnospammagiccity.com>
Hi Kelly,
I will check this out. Basically, my source had me do a test to tell
which way I received and transmitted energy. I faced my palms to each
other, close but not touching. Then I dropped my middle finger toward
the opposite palm, again not touching. He asked if I could feel energy
moving out of the finger or being received by the finger. Then I did the
opposite hand. I felt energy moving out of my left middle finger and
toward my right middle finger. My guess is that this varies. But I am by
no means an expert on this. It really has worked for me, though. I can
be kind and compassionate as I listen to my coworkers complaints and
criticisms. Yet I don't take it on to myself.
The person who passed on this suggestion lives out of town but I can get
his phone number so I will ask him again. The clasped hands has no
passive/active interaction. It just closes you off, again from my
understanding.
Namaste,
Nancy
GoodwulfeATnospamaol.com wrote:
>
> Hi Nancy-
> Thanks so much for sharing the "negativity" excercise with us. It
> sounds like a comfortable way to go about an uncomfortable subject! The
> only thing Im confused about, is that you mentioned the "LEFT" side being the
> side to face toward the negative energy. I was always taught through years
> of study, that the left side is the "RECIEVING SIDE" or also known as the
> female or Yin side. Could you check it out from your original source just
> to be sure weve got it right? Id really like to start using the excercise,
> but I dont want to get into any more "Trouble" than Im already in. Im like a
> sponge with energy, and before I begin, I need to be sure Its OK.
> Thanks Nancy! Im glad something is working for you! Please share
> more with us when you learn it. Namaste! & lots of love too,
> Kelly
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 22:06:40 +0000
From: Bliss <readyATnospamdircon.co.uk>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Reply to replies
Message-ID: <343176B9.764ATnospamdircon.co.uk>
Hello everyone
I'll try to reply to everyone in this one mailing:
Antoine, I looked at the book 'The multi Orgasmic Man', for my
boyfriend, but it is quite similar to a couple of books I have already,
and he avoids those because they 'make him feel that weirdy feeling he
gets sometimes when I'm making love to him.' As his own stirring
spirituality sexuality is the very thing he does not want to experience,
I think I'll leave that one for now! Thankyou, anyway!
Dominic and Maureen - I tried get the book "A FARTHER SHORE" by Dr.
Yvonne Kason MD. but it appears to be out of print in England.... I am
very keen to see the chapters you mentioned, for friends/spouses of
'k-people'.
Also Sharon, I tried to get Huston Smith's book: The World's Religions,
but that is out of print too..!
So I am now about to trawl the second hand shops. In the meantime, if
anyone on the list knows how I can get either book in London...!?
Also, if anyone can suggest any other good, objective, 'respectable'
reads (nothing too hippy, trippy or scary) that I can leave around for
my boyfriend... he's always reading my books, and, while I'm asking so
many questions at the moment, although I think it has been discussed
before, can anyone tell me which 'branch' of Yoga is most suited to
kundalini.... I did Hatha Yoga about a year ago, but gave it up because
it didn't feel like the 'right' type of Yoga (..??!)
Thanks Nancy, for your comments, you are absolutely right, especially in
your 'three possibilities':
> Spiritual compatibility is a major issue, in my perspective. If the one
> you love can't accept your spiritual practice, a few things can happen:
> 1. You continue talking about your spiritual topics with your boyfriend
> and he continues to feel unhappy about this.
> 2. You stop talking about the spiritual topics with him and find others
> to share with. (This is what I did and it really caused a chasam in my
> relationship.)
> 3. You can stuff your spiritual viewpoints to make him happy.
I imagine a combination of points 1 and 2 will ensue. Luckily I have a
lot of time on my own, so perhaps I can keep my 'spiritual stuff' to
myself most of the time. I will certainly not be stuffing my own views
to make him happy... how could I? I know that this isn't something I can
stuff, and I have told him this already. I guess I will continue with
the relationship with my eyes open, and hope he keeps his open too.
Lobster, I loved your fable... perfect! Thank you ! I guess he wants
the talking frog right now... okay... one day it will be a nice surprise
for him to find out he also has a princess!
M, God10, The Ox, I really appreciate what you had to say... I think
it's definitely a good idea for me to just leave my love to his own
spiritual devices. Although he denies it, I think he just simply isn't
ready, and is too scared to move away from the path of 'convential'
religious/spiritual belief (for whatever reason). It is easy to see how
if I keep prodding at him with it, he will think I am 'the big bad
wolf', and simply run away. Hopefully, by the time he is ready, I will
have a good solid base already established within myself to hold his
tender hand from.
Thaaaanks everyone, you've all been so very kind.....!
much love,
Bliss x x x x
Date: Wed, 01 Oct 1997 07:27:13 -0700
From: ori^ <oriATnospameskimo.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Reply to replies
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Hi Bliss,
>So I am now about to trawl the second hand shops. In the meantime, if
>anyone on the list knows how I can get either book in London...!?
Did you try the library? Most of those titles should be available
there either locally or through InterLibrary Loan (or whatever they
might call it in London)
>can anyone tell me which 'branch' of Yoga is most suited to
>kundalini....
I have found Kundalini Yoga to be very well suited to kundalini :)
>From my novice perspective it works with the energy body and with
mantra. What I like best about it is that the yoga postures are
in service to the energy flowing... I have found this to suit me
and my path extremely well. In fact, I've never seen such rapid
movement from any other practice I have found my way into.
In service to the process of awakening,
ori^
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Date: Wed, 1 Oct 1997 11:15:51 -0400 (EDT)
From: UweJohannATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Good to listen to you all!
Message-ID: <971001111505_1332720552ATnospamemout01.mail.aol.com>
Hi dear people,
please forgive me my bad english, it's my first attempt/try.
Since some weeks I was reading all the messages of you, sometimes my head
began to rush, sometimes all my hairs are standing up, and sometimes i in
tears . I only want to share with you, that it is so helpfull, to read what
other people are experiencing.
I came to k-list by a search about kundalini, i read the book from Gopi
Krishna. A Meditation-Instructor asked me if i Know it, because i told her,
that i'm doing Healing with "Universal Energy" and it has to do with chakras.
At this time, a half year now ago, i felt a turn in a lot of opinions.
I learned the healing by a Dr. med. XXX who activated our Chakras 2-7 in a
Time of 6 Days they called to 60 %. Since that time we have to meditate min 5
and max 30 minutes a day to sustain this activation until our 100% activation
if we want it.
Befor this i was interested in Buddhism, took refuge by a lama, and
meditated daily one or two hours. this meditation is called shamata.
Sometimes I felt during this meditation a heat comming upto my head. I
thought it was because of the temperature of anny unhealthy in my body, my
spine isn't the newest.
Since that time of the chakra-activating the meditation turned into
another quality. Then i decided to do the activating of the chakras to 100%.
It was a 2 day course in germany where we learned how to use the Hands and
chakras to help to heal. The final activating was in Holland, where the
master, i can't imagine that you know him, Luong Ming Dang, activated us.
Here where over 1000 People together in a great Hall. We sit down on a
chair. Some advices where given to us, about the procedere of the activating.
Then the master entered the hall, say some words to welcome us. Takes a sit
on the stage and in 30 - 40 seconds oure chakras wer activated. I must
discribe it because i could not understand how it happends. This course is
called Niveau 3, The next two days i stayed in Holland for Niveau 4, where
the Master gave us a transmission of energy. In this couse only people asks
any questions and the master answered. It was very interesting but sometimes
it was to much, i've had problems to belief al this.
Since these days i felt a desire to meditate intensiv now up to 2- 3 h
daily (the master said: It is not nessessary to meditate for the
chakra-activating after 100 %). There is a intesive feeling in chakra 6 and
7, heat sometimes, dizziness, tingling (often by reading these k-List) on
different places, constant on chakra 7, sometimes very intensive like a long
spike in the upper head.
At first i thought that i must be ill, some pain ocoured, i tryed to heal
myself with the energie, special the "high sound" in my reight ear, i thought
it was tinitus, the pain in my spine.
But then i read the book from Gopi Krishna. I was a little bit affraid,
what doing now. I found this Web-site and the list, and now i wanted to tell
you, that i am very glad that i found it.
And now, after reading all these wonderfull sensations people sometimes
discribing, I have a question; I see no ligths, colors, Auras, Chakras other
beeings and so on. Only in the meditation on afternoon, sometimes ther
occours a very bright light, I began to fell verry well, and wenn i open my
eyes, i can see a sunbeam at the window. So I always find a ordinary
explanation for sensations that I observe.
The only I realy feel is a strongly rejection to adopt any Building of
Thoughts, I abandoned the buddhist meditation group, it was suddenly to
narrow. I gave up the martial arts I was training for more than 15 years.
Drinking isn`t possible because of the intensive pain (i tryed 1 bottle of
beer one time).
Your posts where a lot of tips/hints/examples they helped me to
understand whats going on. I meet sometimes some people they are also
activated, but didn't meditate, so they dont have such experiences. You are
the only in this moment. I want to talk to someone If it is possible by the
masses of post in the list.
Thank you for your attention,
Uwe
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 1997 15:44:20 +-100
From: Tom Bradley <tombATnospamphonelink.com>
To: "kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Need to find Yoga Association in UK to point me to kundalini classes
Message-ID: <01BCCE80.E76198C0ATnospamtomb.dev.PhoneLink.COM>
Hello,
I'm based near Liverpool, UK and am interested in finding out whether any kundalini-related training classes are held in that area. There should be, it's a large enough city. Trouble is, I don't know how to find one. What I'd like is if one of
you could give me contact details for any nationwide UK umbrella organizations for Yoga (which will be undoubtedly
weighted towards Hatha Yoga, but they're the people who'll know). Then I can contaact them and find out where any
classes might be.
Thanks,
Thomas Bradley
Date: Wed, 01 Oct 1997 09:00:33 -0800
From: sister mary elephant <madammumATnospamptialaska.net>
To: readyATnospamdircon.co.uk
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Reply to replies
Message-ID: <3432817F.6903ATnospamptialaska.net>
<snip>
> Dominic and Maureen - I tried get the book "A FARTHER SHORE" by Dr.
> Yvonne Kason MD. but it appears to be out of print in England.... I am
> very keen to see the chapters you mentioned, for friends/spouses of
> 'k-people'.
>
> Also Sharon, I tried to get Huston Smith's book: The World's Religions,
> but that is out of print too..!
>
> So I am now about to trawl the second hand shops. In the meantime, if
> anyone on the list knows how I can get either book in London...!?
dear Bliss (& everyone)-
bookstore in Portland, OR i used to work at; POWELL'S BOOKSTORE; a
full city block of books & more - spread out like a spider's web, they
are!
now online:
http://www.powells.com/
if they cannot find a book in their stocks, one can initiate a 'book
search' right there.
of course, London likely has similar bookstores (?), but here's the link
to Powell's anyway!
v
--
"Ah, good taste! What a dreadful thing! Taste is the enemy of
creativeness." PabloPicasso
valerie cooper
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/7982/index.html
Date: Wed, 01 Oct 1997 09:10:29 -0800
From: valerian <madammumATnospamptialaska.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: sister mary elephant faux pas
Message-ID: <343283D1.116ATnospamptialaska.net>
whoops! soory about that!
last night i changed my name temporarilly to make a point to someone, &
apparently forgot to change it back in preferences!
*lol*
please forgive me!
sister mary elephant = valerie
:)
--
"Ah, good taste! What a dreadful thing! Taste is the enemy of
creativeness." PabloPicasso
valerie cooper
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/7982/index.html
Date: Wed, 01 Oct 1997 10:10:20 -0700
From: Mary Ezzell <maryATnospamdragontree.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: prayer request
Message-Id: <3.0.32.19971001084923.00729168ATnospampop.sonic.net>
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I'd like to ask others' help to visualize my friend's body chemistry
reawakening its own ability to produce its own chemicals so she will no
longer need Methadone. This is her 9th day without it and she is feeling
some withdrawals.
Odd things have been happening, for months she has been having some psychic
awakening and spontaneous healing of other health problems. It is hard for
her logical and rather scientific mind to handle such.
She never used recreational drugs so has no experience to draw on. We hope
some sort of healing transformation is going on ... a push might help ....
Mary
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 1997 07:40:33 -1000
From: Ruth Trimble <trimbleATnospamhawaii.edu>
To: redATnospamearthlink.net
cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Jet Engines...
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Hi Eric
Your experience I have read about in Muktananda's Autobiography, The Play
of Consciousness. I cannot find it right now, but it is in there. He had a
very similar experience.
What wonders the K. brings...! I believe it could also be that there is
blockage.. and SHE is trying hard to clear the stuff out of you to allow
HER to do her work. If you know a person who can see the chi or ki
energy, ask them to see if there is a block in the spine or to ease the
passage of it through. I can do this long distance...if you want to send
me details, name and a short description of yourself. ( I once cleared a
lady's sister instead of her, so I want to be clear who I am connecting
to.)
One day you will read this letter you wrote again, and be amazed that it
ever happened. Celebrate.. your are in tune with the nature of God now.
Ruth
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Everytime one realizes something of the truth, there is a dance in the
heart. The heart is the only testimony for the truth. (Osho)
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Ruth Trimble email:<trimbleATnospamhawaii.edu>
http://166.122.32.61/trimble/
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