1997/09/28  11:34  
 kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #470 
  
kundalini-l-d Digest				Volume 97 : Issue 470
 
Today's Topics: 
  Re: Beware Evan--A Lobster is loose, and Joe's Truths 
  Re: Dearest Evan 
  Re: Beware Evan--A Lobster is loose, and Joe's Truths 
  Re: Pentecostal Kundalini 
  Re: ways of the heart 
  kundalini book 
  Questions, questions... 
  Re: Kundalini virtual conferences (dream or reality?) 
  The Kundalini Perspective 
  Re: Aura Colors 
Date: Sun, 28 Sep 1997 07:35:21 -0700 (PDT) 
From: M  <chooseagainATnospamthegrid.net> 
To: J P Flarity <joeATnospamflarity.com> 
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: Beware Evan--A Lobster is loose, and Joe's Truths 
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Joe,
 
I am sorry to see you leave us.   
Perhaps you'll return someday.   
Did you ever get to meditate watching the sun go down?
 
M
 
PS  To appreciate Lobster (and your own response to Evan) better you might 
peruse "Holy Madness" a book recently recommended to our list.  It fits 
nicely in that oddly shaped open space in the upper left hand corner of the 
puzzle we are putting together.
 
At 09:22 PM 9/27/97 -0700, J P Flarity wrote: 
>Dear K list members: 
> 
>I humbly apologize for forcing you to witness a bit of self realization 
>than you may have found uncomfortable.  I have often asked us all to 
>look closely at the things which really bug us because there is usually 
>an important message concerning ourselves. 
> 
>And Evan was my perfect mirror.  I have played with this fire in a 
>childlike (or childish?) way with fantastic results.  I have laughed and 
>cared nothing of the past or future.  I have smiled as others passed 
>judgment on the moment's rain. 
> 
>But was I ever serious?  And what could cause such a blatant attack on a 
>similar journeyer? 
> 
>And the answer came in an instant:  This is something that Lobster might 
>say (but cleaved with his humble sword). 
> 
>Lobster came to the list and tantalized/titillated me with the expansive 
>forces of incongruity and unanswerable questions.  His few departures 
>came in the form of warnings concerning the flawed directions of other 
>list members.  Now, he is offering his own brand of 'serious' directions 
>to greater spirituality. 
> 
>I feel betrayed by one that was a tremendous inspiration.  It is as 
>simple as that.  I need no rational.   
> 
>And this list, which has been so important for the last year, has lost 
>its resonance.  It has actually become discordant to my thinking.  I 
>know that it is time to move on.   
> 
>So I will leave the list with my own musings, that I perceive to be the 
>truth: 
> 
>JOE's TRUTHS 
> 
>God breaths with each of us and delights in every yawn.  I see a glimpse 
>of the powerful co-creator we have within us.  If it were not so, your 
>body would fail in an instant.  Worlds may expand into being or collapse 
>into a point at the direction of your desire.  
> 
>Holding yourself as unequal is filling yourself with duality.  Be empty 
>and have everything. 
> 
>The right way is comfortable and easy.  Your soul makes it this way.  
>Don't strain against it unless you like to lose.  It will laugh as if 
>you were a child holding its breath in order to get an extra scoop of 
>chocolate ice cream (childish?).  No one else knows your way with any 
>better authority.  Don't waste energy correcting the diversity of paths 
>unless specifically told to do so (then its not a waste). 
> 
>Your soul is rooted in eternity.  How long do you have?  Listen to it 
>now--whispering in your dreams. 
> 
>You have a body and limited concentrated awareness surrounding it.  Your 
>ego grew and duality was created slowly with it.  There is a place 
>beyond good/evil.  You do not have to die to experience it.  I highly 
>recommend that you keep an open mind and take a look. 
> 
>The purpose of life:  What else would God do?  See even your tears as 
>wonderful gifts.  Hold a slug as if it were a gorgeous flower. 
>(child-like?)  And every flower that you hold is God kissing you and 
>saying: 
> 
>We are all together 
>We are all together 
>There was never a time when this was not so 
> 
>Your childlike wonder and laughter is the end. 
> 
> 
> 
>with the greatest love from your childish and childlike cow farmer, 
> 
>joe 
> 
> 
> 
Date: Sun, 28 Sep 1997 07:48:55 -0700 (PDT) 
From: M  <chooseagainATnospamthegrid.net> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Cc: Who1w30555ATnospamaol.com 
Subject: Re: Dearest Evan 
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>Evan James Rooney (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent ) wrote: 
>>  
>> Hello 
>>   I recently came across kundalini in my search of esoteric subjects and it 
>> caught my intrest so I immediatly signed up.  Since I'm new to this could 
>> someone post excersizes to bring about the experience 
>>  
>> Greatly appreciated 
>> Evan
 
 
Yes Evan, you are greatly appreciated. (Freudian comma slip)  Your question 
has been a Rorschach test for us on the K list and I for one have seen my 
self in every ink blot that got sent your way in response. 
 
Thanks for all the (pretty) pictures, folks.   
And Evan, thanks for provoking them.
 
M
 
PS Evan, please don't overlook the caution, curves ahead, sign that was 
prominent in every single picture.  It was the ink in every blot. 
Date: Sun, 28 Sep 1997 13:50:10 -0700 
From: E Jason <vv60ATnospamdial.pipex.com> 
To: jan.watsonATnospamsympatico.ca, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, 
 J P Flarity <joeATnospamflarity.com> 
Subject: Re: Beware Evan--A Lobster is loose, and Joe's Truths 
Message-ID: <342EC302.5CFATnospamdial.pipex.com> 
 
J P Flarity wrote:
 
<speaking of Lobster - cest moi>  
> I feel betrayed by one that was a tremendous inspiration.  It is as 
> simple as that.  I need no rational.
 
You have been served by me as well as my abilities and yours are able to be so served.  
Betrayal is just the non-fulfillment of expectations - what did you expect . . .
 
  
> And this list, which has been so important for the last year, has lost 
> its resonance.  It has actually become discordant to my thinking.  I 
> know that it is time to move on.
 
It has changed its resonance and so have you . . . 
Safe journey. 
  
  
> JOE's TRUTHS
 
<snip>
 
Nice!
 
Most Fond Farewells, 
Lobster 
Date: Sun, 28 Sep 1997 09:18:37 
From: David Hodges <dhodgesATnospamrecol.com> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>) 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: Pentecostal Kundalini 
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About 15 years ago I was a member of a Protestant church that experienced a 
charismatic revival. The Charismatic movement in the Protestant and 
Catholic churches was (is?) based on the same thing as Pentacostalism: 
Baptism in the Holy Spirit leading to Speaking in Tongues, Gifts of 
Prophecy, Healing, etc. 
I would agree with you that we didn't understand what we were experiencing. 
There was a great deal of energy flowing about in our meetings. The 
phenomena, which were completely kundalini-like, were heavily theologized 
and almost scripted. There was no attempt to step back and be a bit 
detached about it all.  
We were playing with a great energy and many of us got hurt. In fact the 
group as a whole couldn't handle the increased emotional, sexual, and 
negative stuff that got stirred up and it disbanded because of internal 
dissension of all kinds.
 
I myself wasn't ready for it. For example, one evening we went to hear a 
travelling charismatic preacher who worked the congregation into a highly 
energized state and then proceeded to walk past each one of us and 
administer a touch on the forehead (3rd eye chakra?). When he came to me, 
as soon as he touched me a bolt of energy lept into me and I fell down 
(this is what is called "being slain in the spirit"). After a few moments I 
came to myself. I felt very exalted after the service but I was sick for 
the next two days with a horrible headache and general feelings of 
depletion - I'm sure the energy hit all sort of blocks in me and caused all 
kinds of havoc.
 
My overall judgement would be that the difference between this and 
kundalini is that the experience came from without, from people like that 
travelling preacher, and from the group dynamic. Most people's lives seemed 
(from the sketchy evidence I have) unchanged by it. I sufferred years of 
depression afterwards which I don't know was realted to it or not, but now 
I am very cleaned out emotionally and my whole belief system is totally 
different and I think my own kundalini experience now is made easier by 
that whole process. So perhaps it had an effect after all.
 
David
 
At 04:22 PM 9/26/97, you wrote: 
>How I heard about Kundalini. 
>  I was raised in a Pentecostal family.  In my youth I felt that I had 
>experienced the Pentecostal/Charismatic experience.  Later, I left the 
>church to begin my "spiritual search".  I still think that experience 
>was real, but have come to believe that the Pentecostals did not 
>understand what they were experiencing.. 
[...] 
>Found another site which said Pentecostalism and Kundalini were the same 
>thing.  Searched this new word, "Kundalini" and am now on this e-mail 
>listing.  Enjoy it. That site is:  
>Other sites say this also (search: Pentecostal and Kundalini) What do 
>you think?    Gordon  
Date: Sun, 28 Sep 1997 09:29:42 
From: valerian <madammumATnospamptialaska.net> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>) 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: ways of the heart 
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> > v:<snip>someone on this list, awhile back, said that - soon people will be 
> > forced to take the way of the heart, & the others will be left behind 
<snip>
 
> Gloria answer: 
>         It was probably one of the posts I put in, I was speaking of  
>the increased frequencies that the planet is being faced with. In order 
to> stay here individuals are going to have to adjust and adapt which is 
> difficult without turning within for help. 
>          Priorities are the issue here, in a self involved state...me, 
>my, I  place of relating, the focus is on getting, having, and being  
>someone. 
> This is solar plexus awareness.
 
v: so - you are saying that the planetary energies are transmuting  to 
assist graduation from the solar plexus chakra to the heart chakra?  
>  gloria: When the focus is on knowing God inside, being in the flow, 
serving humanity... the goal is on staying centered while reaching out to 
assist in whatever way God can work through you, which is a shift in 
consciousness and is heart and mind working as one. 
v: is it as simple as one's true motives & where consciousness is 
directed; either towards *self* or outwards to *others*, & always 
seeking God of the heart & *truth*? it is enough to love God alone, & 
service & love for others will be the predictable result? 
so - if one simply loves God, the heart will open to others sooner or 
later?
 
> gloria:While most people are still caught in the prison of the five  
>senses/solar plexus state, never has there been more direct help 
> available to change this. 
>         My instinct tells me that many will burn out in the pleasure  
>trip and go on to look for soul purpose and meaning, especially if they 
>are remembering their dreams.  We see it now people are seeking not  
>just out of curiosity but because they feel that inner call to know  
>truth. It is a matter of really getting serious about knowing God.
 
v: i notice even marketting strategies are changing; cheesily enough. 
from the yoga teacher endorsing 'Tic-Tac Breath Mints' to Enya being 
used to sell cars, it has become most *fashionable* suddenly to look 
within for answers. 
   is this just the 'baby boomer' generation? are younger adults 
(generation x-ers) & the children being affected, anyone notice?
 
> gloria:Something you said about being confused about survival issues, 
>etc. this is a part of the change over from the me/I which is control, >to 
the faith driven knowing that says I have to live in this moment  
>knowing God has a plan for me.
 
v: i - for one have been pretty much just 'going with the flow' ever 
since the 102 stitch concussion on the right side of head - age 16. it 
is only with a daughter growing up i feel the need to question values, & 
whether i am doing enough & fast enough. it seems God prefers me as a  
traumatized artist begging for mercy from the Deities. nothing about 
this situation seems to change (yet).
 
> gloria: One comes from a strong self identification which is necessary 
>before entering the leaving go stage,( some people try to force the  
>letting go before really burning out the first stage) this is  
>difficult, when you are ready to accept God as your first cause it is  
>very natural to  move with it. Then because your focus now centers on 
 >the inside, you have a flood of questions that consistantly take you  
>in deeper. With each layer of the letting go, there is less  
>identification with self and more with observation and awareness of  
>something far greater. Plus with this comes real identification with  
>soul/spirit and frequencies that manifest in octaves as sound and  
>color/light. People know God first as sound, light and color, then as  
>divine will and purpose. Gloria
 
v: having been rear-ended 3 times while i was south going to school, the 
first time by a speeding lumber truck with a fatality, i have been 
treated by a whole plethora of healers, chiropractors, a doctrine known 
as 'kiniesiology' which included shining certain colored lights on 
certain chakras & astrology, rolfed, & even more conventional (& 
heartless AMA-types). i wonder where i am in this process? certainly - 
there remains chronic pain in the hips still, which also made me wonder 
if pain in an area keeps consciousness concentrated in that area (in 
this case, the lowest chakra). 
------------------------------------------------------------------------ 
"Ah, good taste! What a dreadful thing! Taste is the enemy of 
creativeness."    PabloPicasso 
valerie cooper 
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/7982/index.html 
Date: Sun, 28 Sep 1997 09:37:50 
From: "Anibal M. Cutinella" <amcATnospamcs.com.uy> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>) 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: kundalini book 
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 Dear Sirs:
 
   I am new in this and I am looking for a book to read about 
it, if someone can tell me wich book I can buy in south america I will be 
pleased.
 
 
   Thanks for all
 
 
    Anibal
 
 
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Date: Sun, 28 Sep 1997 09:40:38 
From: Bliss <readyATnospamdircon.co.uk> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>) 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Questions, questions... 
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Hi...
 
I'm back here again, after a few weeks of  building myself back up...
 
The reason I am writing today is because this whole subject still causes 
immense friction in my relationship with my boyfriend, who is not 
k-active, but who is a very spiritually quizzical yet cynical young man.
 
Recently he got so scared of this whole thing and my affinity with it, 
and you all, that he demanded that I unsubscribe from the list... I love 
him dearly... I did so.
 
Just last night we were talking again about this, and he was voicing his 
fears again. As I said, he is not k-active, but has been the recipient 
of my energies whilst making love, a number of times, and these 
experiences have been so odd for him... I have tried to 'show' him the 
beauty of the energy... to have him join with me... but each time he 
made me stop, describing the experience as one which he feels is 
undoubtedly and instinctively 'bad' and 'evil'. He feels I am trying to 
take him to 'hell', I think.
 
I don't understand how something which feels so pure, good, beautiful, 
necessary, vital and absolutely 'right' for me can be so much the 
reverse for him. I have tried reasoning that he mustn't be ready, must 
be too afraid etc, which causes him to reject the 'goodness', but he 
says that it's not that, he really wants to learn to see 'the way', but 
this 'way' just 'feels very very bad and evil.'
 
Of course this makes me question everything myself (which caused me to 
lose my head a little for a short while), but I can't explain it. One 
possible explanation which I keep coming back to is this:
 
Do you think it is possible that, to create a perfect union, the 
polarity/duality thing could manifest itself in such a divisive way..? 
What I mean is, one person feels all of the good, therefore the other 
must feel an equal amount of 'bad' until a state of '1' is acheived?
 
My boyfriend raises questions with me all of the time such as: 
What is the point of this k-energy... so it's there, so what? 
What if it's a really dark force which is so insidious that it makes you 
feel that it's a good force, and that you're doing the right thing? (a 
great one for mincing your mind up). 
How many of these people on the net have taken lots of drugs in the 
past? (as I have) 
What if your drug-taking has set up your current spiritual experiences 
and reactions, and even though you are not taking drugs now, your body 
is locked into this way of experiencing spiritual matters, even though 
it could be the 'wrong' way?
 
I try to answer for myself as best as I possibly can, without tying 
myself into too many knots... I wonder what other people's answers 
are..?
 
I am feeling pretty calm and confident in my own spirituality again 
right now, and I leave my boyfriend's spiritual experiences for him to 
instigate, but our discussions continue, and he worries for my 'mental 
health'. I worry for his 'spiritual health'.
 
Any comments, anyone?
 
Love, Bliss    x 
Date: Sun, 28 Sep 1997 09:51:21 
From: indra <indraATnospamsmartt.com> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>) 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: Kundalini virtual conferences (dream or reality?) 
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acarre (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent ) wrote: 
>  
> Nancy (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent ) wrote: 
>  
> > But it did get me thinking...Does anyone think it would be fun to have 
> > a 
> > k conference? It could be at a physical location or virtual. We could 
> > have k-related products and services to browse through. Different 
> > "speakers" could tell personal experiences and share theories. Maybe 
> > kundalini yoga would fit in. It's the idea that came to me as I woke 
> > with a start at 4:30 a.m. following this dream. 
> > 
>  
> I like the idea Nancy,  very much... I have been nourishing it for a 
> while. 
>  
> anyone know about palace chat program? 
> You can get the unlimited time offer for guest at: 
> http://www.thepalace.com/ 
>  
> A palace is an easy environment to create, with the pictures and rooms 
> you want, where you can chat (by typing not speaking) privately or in 
> group. The common background image, personal Avatars you can where, give 
> an all new dynamic to exchange, helping in a better contact. 
>  
> I actually have a non dedicated palace (dynamic address, in another 
> words, private palace) who can accommodate 40 people at the time, with 
> 20 rooms. And would be ready to transform it for such an occasion with 
> the help of one or two people. 
>  
> Antoine
 
Everyone here with the combined will and effort , I fell can make the 
Real Kundalini Conference possible not only in the virtual but this  
three dimensional reality and it would act as a live forum for 
exchanges, differences, agreements  and also consensus.
 
Thanks for the great idea,enough conscious energy working on it will 
create it eventually.
 
In Love Life and Light,
 
Indra
 
List Mystress: 
Yes, and Vancouver would be just the place for it too.. east meets west..  
Date: 	Sun, 28 Sep 1997 07:52:58 -1000 
From: Ruth Trimble <trimbleATnospamhawaii.edu> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: The Kundalini Perspective 
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Hi List and particularly TG 
I started this in response to Evan browsing Kundalini as a topic and 
wanting to "have an experience"  from a written text... ha ha..!  We can 
laugh at this.  We can warn him. We can tell him what we went through, but 
he will never understand for it is an experience only.  This is what it is 
all about... beyond the linear mind, the separating it into parts and 
analysis.   
But reading the wave of woes that I started with my warnings, I guess it 
seems that we have a phenomena here...some persons see their awakening as 
a great blessing, and some a curse.  It occurs to me that most people 
experience discomfort of some kind, but that is very much third 
dimensional reality.  It is part and parcel of the EGO to complain about 
ones nice little paradigm of "This is how to live and be comfortable" 
disturbed and blown apart.  So what has been popping up here is the ego's 
forum for whining I think...and I include myself primarily.
 
However, if my recent experience of becoming invisible is any guide, on 
other dimensions of who we are (being Multi-dimensional) in this case I 
was experiencing 4th dimensionally...there is MUCH to celebrate.  And even 
through the worst of what I went through, it was never unbearable...well 
it was almost but I know that the alternative was worse. 
Let me give an example: 
In my family my father was God and his children were his play toys...and 
he was absolute ruler. There was loving sexual fondling and sometimes it 
went further than that as in my case.  I buried this memory until I was 33 
and had Shaktipat.  I would then meditate for 3 or 4 hours a day...the 
memory which I and my siblings had carefully shoved out into the darkest 
corners of the universe to forget about then began to arise. I could not 
accept this little 5 year old's voice saying "My Daddy raped me."  I was 
like one split.. the one saying this and the one disbelieving it.  I also 
had this encounter with the great void.  I flipped.  Sitting in the 
psychiatrist's office I found myself telling him about this little voice 
and he says..."Why don't you believe this voice?"  I was amazed....and 
delighted to be given permission to believe my own self at last. It was a 
huge relief.  
I started to heal at that point. It took about 15 more years of working 
through my rage, anger, hatred etc.. until I went home to visit when my 
dad was 80 and very senile with moments of clarity...and I found this old 
picture of him as a 5 year old with his Grandfather - a lecher, evil old 
being who had been a drug addict chemist way back then.  Then I knew my 
dad had been sodomized by his grandfather...instantly I understood my 
father's entire life and his bi-polar disorders etc.. It all came flooding 
in with this incredible understanding and love for him.  While I was there 
visiting, we had been talking about the news of a childhood rapist, and 
he leaned across the kitchen table and said, "Do you suppose the victim 
can ever forgive the perpetrator."  Without a moment's hesitation, I 
replied. 
 "Yes I do where there is love and understanding."  And with that 
simple forgiveness my father and I had the most loving and rancour-free 
visit that we had ever had.  Before this forgiveness he would always pick 
fights with me as just the sight of me would twinge his conscience.  He 
knew how damaging the experience had been for me.. more than the other 
siblings in our family. This was the last time I saw him before his death. 
 On this same visit... my older sister, Jo, was very close to hving 
to go to the mental hospital.  She and her family lived in the same 
mansion with my parents and she was "martyr caretaker" for everyone. She 
never had a carreer and the always put others before herself. Her husband 
begged me to help her.  She also had a lot of phsyical problems.  I 
recognized that her subconscious like mine had done, was holding down all 
the memories we had about childhood incest. Her solution wasalways to get 
sick. My solution was to leave home and go as far away from England as I 
could get....Hawaii.   
 But I realized that she was living with a huge 
secret with the perpetrator of the secret right there in her house.. my 
dad.. .and that my mother (the greatest denial-sustainer in the world) 
would never understand if my sister revealed her secret.  So there is my 
sister...her subconscious is bursting with the tension and she is 
virtually dying of illness - she looked like a corpse.. and there was "no 
one home" behind her eyes. She was paranoid in public about people looking 
at us.  She was a cariciature of all the "rules" my mother had given us as 
children about being "GOOD."  That little girl she had been was no where 
to be found. 
 I had to tell her husband what was truly wrong.. so I waited until 
I got back to Hawaii...then I called him and told him tht my sister needed 
long term mental health care because she was a victim of incest.  He, 
being a jerk, blurted this out to my mother and there is a great 
hullabaloo about me being insane and nuts....and my mother refusing to 
ever speak to me again.  She was always willing to sacrifice me to meet 
her "concepts" of our respectability... ha ha...  Well it did not bother 
me because I had my life here...and I knew I would be detaching from them 
all sooner  or later...so I just bore all her hatred.  In the meantime, my 
sister Jo acts shocked and stunned and goes the same route as my mother in 
condemning me.  So I am the black sheep.  
 But here is the fun part, my sister got physically and mentally 
well and that was 7 years ago.. and she has actually got a life and a 
career now and her illnesses though lingering, are not about to kill her. 
So I took on this burden of truth on my shoulders - which was far less 
painful for me than it would have been for my sister living so close to 
mum and dad.   
So what does this have to do with the Kundalini..?   EVERYTHING... it was 
because of the Kundalini that I was set free of this subconscious memory 
that would have probably made me go nuts eventually..and certainly most of 
my adult life up to then, had almost given me nervous breakdowns whenever 
i got too stressed out.  My sister did not get the Kundalini awakened.  So 
she had no relief from the memories and trauma.  I got my trauma resolved 
and have changed 180* as a result of the K.  Thus I think there is a 
formula here from my experience and hers... in the case of such a trauma: 
 
 K. Awakened  = Cleansing Chakras and old traumas = fruitful life 
      fulfilled/creative 
 No K. Awakened = Blocked chakras = illness/psychosis/paranoia/ 
  unfulfilled
 
Clearing my chakras was no picnic and I guess that is why I whine a little 
about it. My friends and spouse all thought I was nuts. I might hve lost 
custody of my child and created a lot of worldly problems for myself 
except I had a guru who guided me carefully.  But it was not fun. But 
which scenario is worse... my 2 year inbalances, or my sister's 40 years 
of illness and mental problems?
 
 Thanks for bearing with me.  This is all part of my book... and is only 
just ONE of the blessings I have witnessed and experienced.. and there are 
a thousand more that I will have to reserve for another day. 
Aloha,   Ruth  
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Date: Sun, 28 Sep 1997 11:28:30 
From: Nancy Eckert <watrfallATnospamniagara.com> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>) 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: Aura Colors 
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Tim Pritchard by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent wrote:
 
> What does Blue mean.  I percieve brilliantly bright blue during my 
> meditations.  The color transistions from yellow to green then develops 
> into blue completley.
 
Hi Tim,
 
It does sound like you are going through the colours of your chakras and 
working on/with them as you go. 
But just to answer your question about the colour blue... having to do with 
reading auras. 
This is what it means to me in; an aura reading (for others it may be 
different) but see how this feels to you. 
Calmness, comfortable with self, cozy, warm, compassionate. Creative and 
artistic. Can be a loner. Again, asscoiated with the throat, 5th chakra. 
When working on your throat chakra it often has to do with voice and 
expression of yourself to others. Have you been holding feelings in? 
Keeping quiet about things, as to not hurt others feelings? This is the 
time to stand up and express yourself. Be who you truly are on your 
spiritual path and not worry about what other people may think of you... 
that's their problem.
 
The transition that you talk about is interesting... 
when I see the yeoolow to green transition in a person's aura. It tells me 
that this person is going and finishing a healing process, overcoming 
problems, emotional or physical change and remewal.
 
So if your colour picture... is going from yellow-green-blue. I would say 
that you have been going through a lot in the recent past. But through your 
spiritual awakening you are healing and coming into your own. Quite 
nicely... blue is an excellent colour and I would say your main aura 
colour, for now.
 
hope this helps 
Nancy Eckert 
WaterFall in spirit
 
 
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