1997/09/27  20:20  
 kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #468 
  
kundalini-l-d Digest				Volume 97 : Issue 468
 
Today's Topics: 
  the strangest dream 
  AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center  
  Re: K. in a manual anyone? 
  Re: The Bigger Picture 
  Kundalini virtual conferences (dream or reality?) 
  Re: God/dess 
  Grounding: tingles, buzzes, etc. 
  Dear Evan: Kundalini Virus update  
Date: Sat, 27 Sep 1997 18:04:04 
From: indra <indraATnospamsmartt.com> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>) 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: the strangest dream 
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Nancy (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent ) wrote: 
>  
> This is a two week old post which slipped through the cracks. ....... 
>  
> Dear k-friends, 
>  
> I had the strangest dream last night and it involved ALL OF YOU!!! I was 
> sitting at a conference table with many of my k-list companions 
> explaining this concept. 
>  
> I was discussing abundance. <snipped, eh, Indra..?> 
> Namaste, 
> Nancy
 
Hello Nancy !
 
With your sharing I am blessed too. I don't why the Divine allows us 
enough rope to wander about. But His/Her grace gets somehow connected 
with consciosuness in the here and now. 
It was 17 years ago, in India, I quit a manager's job out of sheer 
principles. My Foreman had just casually spoken to me during lunch hour 
that why I don't apply for citizienship in Canada. I did not believe him 
and of course in my young years, my pride, my ego (I am the doer, I 
decide with my power- this attitude) took over and due to the conflict 
of principles with my employer I just resigned. Then all the other 
mangers tried to talk me into withdrawing my resignation. I did'nt. My 
Pride was uppermost. 
But I did take the suggestion of my Foreman and applied to the Canadian 
Embassy in New Delhi. Forms and more forms went back and forth for a 
year and a half. Once the embassy sent a letter to appear for a personal 
immigratiojn interview. I did not get letter. My brother, I came to know 
later on destroyed it. Then three months later I got a wire message, 
which happened to fall right in my hands, I gave the interview and 
emigrated to Canada. But for two years at the time I was unemployed, 
with wife and child 3 years old. I did not even have the airfare to 
Canada. It was provided by three friends who gave the money solely due 
to their trust in me. I repaid them after I came over. 
During that period who helped but the Divine, who gave me strength to 
bear the burden, and in a dream before I was given the money for the 
airfare I was told that I would have to leave India. Everything is in 
order. I first disbelieved it. But when in a week airfare was provided 
could I disbelieve it any more. No way. 
But I have maintained a very sweet and intimate relationship with the 
Divine. I do all sorts of crazy things with the Divine, which I am not 
liberty at this time to realate. 
My point of sharing is Divine does take care of us.  
But in times of harrowing experiences I do falter in this world of 
duality. But later contemplation and meditation help clear up the dross. 
Sometimes the Divine renders all the help in the physical through people 
and sometimes through intuitive connections, sometimes through dreams, 
but help  does come, if we maintain our openness and sincerity of 
purpose. 
Good luck to you and all in this listing.
 
In Love, Life, & Light,
 
Indra 
Date: Sat, 27 Sep 1997 18:28:44 
From: Nancy <NancyATnospamMagicCity.com> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>) 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
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shane (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent ) wrote: 
>  
> Dear Nancy, 
<snipped, eh, Nancy??) 
> I imagine that I have probably confused you further.  I did not mean to do 
> so.  I hope you will have a very nice day today, and I thank you for all 
> the imput you have given me. I am very pleased to observe all the different 
> people with their varying personalities and how they are responding to 
Shakti. 
>  
> Namaste. 
>  
You know Shane, sometimes explaining is what makes things confusing! I 
actually had this thought today that when we try to describe the infinite 
(divine, God, universe), we must bring it down to a matter level. My 
concept is that matter is spirit in solid form (much like ice is water in 
solid form). Solidifying spirit makes it lose some resolution or clarity. 
It's much like a copy of a copy of a copy. By the time you see the fifth, 
sixth, seventh generation, it has lost its sharpness, edges, nuances.
 
I felt so frustrated that I couldn't explain myself about my earlier rape 
statement. And when I saw your post, I thought that someone (you) was 
ridiculing my attempt at clarifying my original message. (Isn't 
communication fun!!! : }  I am very comfortable speaking and writing my 
thoughts so it was unusual for me to feel so inept at expression! The more 
I wrote, seemingly, the more the point digressed.
 
So it was my own frustration that I carried forth to your sincere reply. I 
just didn't know so I thought it was best to ask you what you meant rather 
than jump to conclussions.
 
Thanks for your complete explanation. I am not a formal study of 
philosophy, but when you embark on reawakening spirit, I suppose you do 
become philosophical.
 
Namaste, 
Nancy 
Date: Sat, 27 Sep 1997 18:30:47 
From: indra <indraATnospamsmartt.com> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>) 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: K. in a manual anyone? 
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by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent wrote: 
> 
 
> humbly submitted, 
> amckeon 
>  
> P.S. Please be careful, Evan. I would not wish this experience upon anyone. 
> K may be seen or interpreted by some on this list as a positive thing, but 
> it is in the vein of "if life hands you lemons, make lemonade," kind of a 
> deal (at least for me). Making the best of the weirdness we have to deal 
> with now. Think of a radio station that plays music you dislike (country 
> western, opera, polka, whatever), and then never being able to turn the 
> station or to turn off the radio! This is what having to experience the 
> negative vibes coming from those around me at work is like. It is not fun, 
> nor a "high," by any stretch of the imagination.
 
Hello !
 
I have read the book " Kundalini Yoga for the West" written by Swami 
Sivananda Radha (previously Sylvia Hellman) whom I have met a few times 
before her passing in 1995. It is published by Timeless Books in Spokane 
, Washington State, USA. 
The other books by her: In The Comapny of the Wise, and Radha-Diary of a 
woman's search are very good books to get to know the Kundalini. 
It was all her experience for the last forty years in the Kundalini. 
I am sure many would find a lot of answers in her books.
 
In Love, Life & Light,
 
Indra 
Date: Sat, 27 Sep 1997 19:30:48 
From: indra <indraATnospamsmartt.com> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>) 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: The Bigger Picture 
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by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent wrote: 
>  
> In a message dated 97-09-27 15:44:43 EDT, you write: 
>  
>  I AM talking about the BIGGER PICTURE. The place, as you have 
>  said, where there are no victims...where everyone is aware of what certain 
>  events will bring out in them. I appreciate your succinctness in addressing 
>  this. 
>  
>  Nancy 
>   >> 
> Linda here. 
> This discussion reminds me of another Bigger Picture in which a woman in 
> great distress went to the sage seeking consolation. The sage gave her a 
task 
> to go from house to house getting a grain of rice to put in her out 
steetched 
> hands, from each person who had experienced such terrible distress sometime 
> in their lives. When she returned to the sage, her hands were filled to 
> overflowing with rice. Not only did she tell her story many times but she 
had 
> heard so many sad tales that her own distress seemed insignificant. 
Illusion 
> or perspective?ATnospam->->--
 
Hello ! 
I remember a story of the Buddha. One day Buddha was sitting with Ananda 
and others. He had made camp outside a village. At  that time a woman 
who had just lost her child through death, came to the Buddha and asked 
hime to give the life of the child back. Buddha with eyes full of 
compassion, asked her to fill a bowl of mustard seeds and go house to 
house and ask for offerings, the condition being that the house which 
could give the offering would have had no death in hte household. 
So the woman went to each house and made it clear that the people in the 
house would have had no death touch them in the last three gerenartions. 
But none was qualified thus and could not make any offering. 
Then the woman still tears in her eyes came back to Buddha. Buddha asked 
what happened and she answered there was not a single family who have 
not had death in the family. Then the Buddha said : so now oyu know, the 
mortality of this body. Accept it and spend your days with my other 
disciples in a life of service for others. She was the woman who started 
the order of the Buddhist Nuns in the world. Such a transformation took 
plavce in her life. Keeping aside the religious if we can only try to 
understand the meaning of this, I am sure many would understand.
 
In Love, Life & Light
 
Indra 
> 
Date: Sat, 27 Sep 1997 19:31:05 
From: acarre <acarreATnospamconcentric.net> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>) 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Kundalini virtual conferences (dream or reality?) 
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Nancy (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent ) wrote:
 
> But it did get me thinking...Does anyone think it would be fun to have 
> a 
> k conference? It could be at a physical location or virtual. We could 
> have k-related products and services to browse through. Different 
> "speakers" could tell personal experiences and share theories. Maybe 
> kundalini yoga would fit in. It's the idea that came to me as I woke 
> with a start at 4:30 a.m. following this dream. 
>
 
I like the idea Nancy,  very much... I have been nourishing it for a 
while.
 
anyone know about palace chat program? 
You can get the unlimited time offer for guest at: 
http://www.thepalace.com/
 
A palace is an easy environment to create, with the pictures and rooms 
you want, where you can chat (by typing not speaking) privately or in 
group. The common background image, personal Avatars you can where, give 
an all new dynamic to exchange, helping in a better contact.
 
I actually have a non dedicated palace (dynamic address, in another 
words, private palace) who can accommodate 40 people at the time, with 
20 rooms. And would be ready to transform it for such an occasion with 
the help of one or two people.
 
Antoine 
Date: Sat, 27 Sep 1997 19:31:21 
From: indra <indraATnospamsmartt.com> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>) 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: God/dess 
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by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent wrote: 
>  
> In a message dated 97-09-27 11:34:40 EDT, you write: 
>  
>  
>  You wrote: 
>   > 
>  >Eh, what's up Doc? 
>  >Please explain the de/light/full meaningfulness of God/dess. I am 
>  intrigued. 
>  >Thanks, Linda   ATnospam->->--  LHB 
>  > 
>  Good Heavens, I didn't mean to be so esoteric!  Just my way of 
>  referring to the male and female aspects of the divine as well as the 
>  unknowable part that transcends gender.  Holly 
>   >> 
> Yes, the male and female aspects of the divine. OK I got it. 
> The magic comes from the place between the two opposites where the friction 
> takes place. Right?      Linda ATnospam->->--
 
Hello Linda ! 
I think the magic starts at the friction in the physical aspect of it, 
but I feel the magic is not there in between the two opposites.In the 
physical they are the instruments, which send the currents to the brain, 
the offers it to the mind, the mind to the soul. It is in the soul 
nature does the magic takes place.
 
Indra 
Date: Sat, 27 Sep 1997 20:03:58 
From: shane <MrNamasteATnospamwebtv.net> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>) 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Grounding: tingles, buzzes, etc. 
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RE:  Grounding
 
Thank you, Linda for sharing very important information.
 
Please share with us all the title of your book and where to order it.
 
The best thing I ever learned was that it is very hard to accomplish 
grounding if the earth is DRY.  Walking across dry ground while you are in 
bare feet creates a strong static electrical charge.
 
However, if even just the grass is wet --- say, from an early morning dew, 
then this static electicity cannot form.  (These are not my perceptions --- 
rather scientific fact.)
 
My worse k-accident phenomenon of LONG ago occured during a summer drought. 
 When I learned this stuff about the earth & static electricity fields, I 
laughed hysterically remembering HOW many miles I'd traversed in bare feet 
on bare mother earth trying to ground all that energy !! 
And I assure you, that try as I might, I did NOT ground any energy this way 
that summer.  Indeed, my initial problems became very worse, but now we all 
know why.
 
I am very pleased you have written a book about this.  There is a desperate 
need for this important information. 
Once I encountered a person who'd been "K-Awake" for over 20 years, who was 
VERY grateful when I shared the following, because it worked:
 
Cement will ground excess body electricity.  When things start "buzzing", 
so to say ----- take a couple block walk in BARE feet.  This has worked 
really fast the 2 people I told.  In the winter, when you can't go outside 
barefoot, go to your basement, and play with your dog.
 
One time allergies had served to really "electrify" me -- tingles, buzzes, 
etc., and then (oh no) I could feel the whole spine beginning to activate 
--- I decided to sleep on the basement floor.  I didn't have to actually 
sleep there because all those things ebbed away in a few --- maybe 10 -15 
minutes, after I stretched out on the (freezing) cold cement floor in the 
basement.
 
   Namaste.
 
    
Date: Sat, 27 Sep 1997 20:02:00 
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Dear Evan: Kundalini Virus update  
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  Dear Evan: 
 
  Here is the latest breaking news on the Kundalini virus.
 
   It turns out that this so-called Kundalini Awakening 
virus is very dangerous after all. It will manifest your 
ego- fears, just so you can get over them. 
 
  Kundalini will re-write your hard drive.  Not only that, 
it will scramble any disks that are even close to your computer.   
  It will recalibrate your refrigerator's coolness setting 
so all your ice cream goes melty.  
 
  It will demagnetize the strips on all your credit 
cards, screw up the tracking on your television and use 
subspace field harmonics to scratch any CDs you try to 
play.
 
  It will give your ex-girlfriend your new phone number.  It 
will mix Kool-aid into your fishtank.  It will drink all 
your beer and leave dirty underwear on the coffee table when 
company comes over.  It will put a poltergiest in the back 
pocket of your good suit pants and hide your car keys when 
you are late for work.
 
   Kundalini will make you fall in love with a reptile.  It 
will give you nightmares about Monster Nuns.  It will pour 
sugar in your gas tank and take off both your toenails 
while dating your girlfriend behind your back and billing 
the dinner and hotel room to your Discover card.
 
    It will seduce your grandmother.  It does not matter if 
she is dead, such is the power of Kundalini, it reaches out 
beyond the grave, time and space itself to silly those things  
we hold most dear.
 
   It moves your car randomly around parking lots so you 
can't find it, with out psychic assistance. It will kick your  
crotch.  It will leave libidinous messages on your boss's voice  
mail in your voice! It is insidious and subtle.  It is dangerous  
and terrifying to behold.  It is also a rather interesting shade of blue.
 
   Kundalini will give you Dutch Elm disease.  It will leave 
the toilet seat up.  It will make a batch of Methamphetamine 
in your bathtub and then leave bacon cooking on the stove 
while it goes out to chase Christians with your new 
snowblower.
 
  Nancy Wrote: 
> Finally, I explained that there really is no future it is all 
>just is now. Then, I laughed and said it didn't matter anyway how we 
>looked at it because it isn't real anyway. This made a few people upset. 
>Angelique was sitting directly across from me and burst out laughing.
 
  Right on. Blessings, Mystress.
 
     Mistress Angelique Serpent,  
  Dominant Experiential Facilitator. 
Website= http://www.domin8rex.com/serpent 
 *******************  
"With no words, with no song, you can dance the dream, with your body on. 
    And this curve, is your smile.... And this cross, is your heart. 
 And this line, is your path. 
 Oh it's gonna be the way you always thought it would be,  
but it's gonna be no illusion.  
  Oh, it's gonna be the way you always dreamt about it,  
   but it's gonna be really happenin to ya..(REALLY happen'in to YAAAA!)" 
    Kate Bush, "The Red Shoes" 
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