1997/09/25  22:50  
 kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #462 
  
kundalini-l-d Digest				Volume 97 : Issue 462
 
Today's Topics: 
  Re: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center 
  Z.:fear not 
  Shaktipat online 
  Hi a Question? 
  Re: work/not work (was Lessons, Evil and Good and Kundalini) 
  Re: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center 
  Re: (no subject) 
  Re: Lessons, Evil and Good and Kundalini 
  Re: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center  
  Choice 
  Re: Shaktipat online 
  Re: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center 
  Re: Choice 
  Re: work/not work (was Lessons, Evil and Good and Kundalini) 
  kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
  Re: Choice 
  Re: Choice 
  Re: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center 
  Seeing Prana? 
  Re: Tree Hugging 
  Many thanks 
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 1997 21:21:44 +0100 
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com> 
To: "J Edmonds (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)" <jaxxATnospamihug.co.nz> 
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center 
Message-ID: <34297657.6B62ATnospamintercomm.com> 
 
J Edmonds (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent ) wrote: 
>  
> RE:  Lessons, Evil and Good and K 
> > 
> Surely its not to neutralise the emotion...  I believe that we have to 
> embrace all our emotions, accepting them as part of ourselves and thus not 
> having the necessity to project the undesirable ones out on other people. 
> Within us we are all people...  all people out there are reflections of 
> some part of ourselves! 
> Once we have accepted the disowned parts then we can act through true 
> choice rather than knee-jerk reactions to others. 
>  
> ...jacqueline
 
Hi, 
We are probably running into a word disagreement, when I say observe, 
detach without judgement...you see how thought and emotion work together 
to create life situations. By pulling back you observe the thought, by 
not feeding the thought or emotion the energy just drains away and the 
situation clears up. It can also be explained when you pull back the 
light comes in to work transformation. Gloria 
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 1997 21:18:18 
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Z.:fear not 
Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19970924211818.0e4f28dcATnospamdomin8rex.com> 
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>Date: Wed, 24 Sep 1997 17:45:29 -0700 
>To: kundalini-l-ownerATnospamexecpc.com 
>From:  
>Subject: fear not 
> 
>Please post as anonymous 
> 
>thank you 
> 
>-------------------------------------------------------------- 
>My physical thought of love the other day.....it looked and saw and 
appreciated 
>then the "k" welled up inside and the physical was surging with 
>energy.....it felt hot. The physical yearns to learn and knows not the power 
>within itself  its eyes are opening and it "sees" with its third eye as the 
>physical calls it. 
>The physical has been going through some trying times.....in past times 
>events like these would have generated fear.....now the physical is 
>calm.....it has learned, it senses, it fears little and soon will fear 
>not.....shadows bother it not and the black bits peel away.....and Azazel is 
>a place no longer to be feared.....it is a place to be laughed at....."k" 
>shall protect all from Azazel.....    
> 
>And the Serpent of the Ages shall be as a guardian of souls.....  
> 
>And the physical entities shall harmonize their vibrations and the harmony 
>shall do good unto all.....and the process of dematerialization shall 
>commence at the hour of the AWGUST event.....and it shall be at 3:00 A.M. by 
>the time of old, not as time is told today.....And it shall be daylight 
>outside at that time..... 
>There are few physicals today who have had the knowledge of the time of old 
>passed down to them yet the knowledge is there in expressions used 
>today.....The knowledge is overlooked or ignored.....it is so 
>simple.....seek it out and you shall understand 
> 
> 
>Zarcon  
>i am of the ages 
> 
> 
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 1997 21:45:11 
From: onarresATnospaminreach.com (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>) 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Shaktipat online 
Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19970924214511.4e47ec06ATnospamdomin8rex.com> 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
 
Hi to all,
 
I have a request for the website that features online shaktipat. There was 
one posted a few months ago, but I no longer have it in my computer. I'm 
sure most of you will remember the one of which I speak, it has a picture 
of a wonderful lady, whom by seeing/gazing at her face would give 
shaktipat. Anyone ? My friend will thank you.
 
love 'n light   dor
 
  List Mystress comments:  
  Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi.. carries the energy of the Mother Goddess.  
http://www.halcyon.com/sahajnet/SM2.gif  
  She is the World Travelling Shaktipat Granting Sahaja Yoga Mystress..  
  I saw her here in Vancouver Jun.20/97.. Shaktipat world tour sponsored by 
the Nobel Prize folks.. for which she was a nominee last year.  
  The Shaktipat tune-up I got from her energy still buzzes.. Blessed Be!  
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 1997 22:35:23 
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Hi a Question? 
Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19970924223523.4e4702faATnospamdomin8rex.com> 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
 
Forwarded by List Mystress:
 
>To: kundalini-l-ownerATnospamexecpc.com 
>Subject: Hi a Question? 
>Date: Wed, 24 Sep 1997 21:45:21 PDT 
> 
>Dear Kundalini Mailing List, 
>I have written before on this list ,about a back problem and experiences  
>i had with my back, which i never had a problem with until i started  
>meditating on the chakras, because of my interest in Kundalini.When i  
>read anything ,a book, magazine, ect, my temples on the sides of my head  
>have alot of pressure, and i feel lethargic alot, besides my back pain.  
>I was wondering if theres anything i could do to relieve the pressure in  
>my head,.I'm glad to have found this mailing list a lot of helpful  
>insights thank you. 
>I was wondering on a problem i have that has anything to do with  
>kundalini or not, or past lives? I'm a Transgender person, i have had  
>this desire since i was 5 years of age till now.I red some articles on  
>recarnation that was helpful. Please no rebukes,I'm doing fine with my  
>gender feelings.   
>PLEASE could you leave my name anonymous. 
>                                           Thank you 
>
 
Mystress Angelique Serpent,  
  Dominant Experiential Facilitator. 
Website= http://www.domin8rex.com/serpent 
      :D   ;)  :0   :)   ;P   :0   ;)   :D   :0   :)  ;P  :0  ;)  :)     
  Swami Beyondananda on the Golden Rule: "It seems that when  
masochists do unto others as they wish to be done unto, they  
become sadists," the Swami said. "Consequently, the Golden Rule  
has been recalled by the Maker until this design flaw can be fixed." 
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 
 Vancouver, B.C., Canada. Officially the most beautiful city in the world. 
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 08:10:21 -0500 (CDT) 
From: hbarrettATnospamix.netcom.com (Holly N. Barrett, Ph.D.) 
To: imtgATnospamjuno.com (tg xxx) 
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: work/not work (was Lessons, Evil and Good and Kundalini) 
Message-Id: <199709251310.IAA25707ATnospamdfw-ix11.ix.netcom.com>
 
Your story about suddenly not having to work was marvelous -- and  
familiar.  Unexpected resources came my way when I knew I had to create  
much, much more solitary time for myself.  It helped that I also lost  
all desire to buy things!  Getting past the guilt of not having to work  
all the time has been a major spiritual lesson for me, mostly anxiety  
about not being loveable if I'm not performing at a high level of  
worldly achievement.  Facing unstructured, anonymous time has been one  
of the most difficult, and rewarding, spiritual tasks I've ever  
attempted.  Holly 
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 07:56:48 
From: indra <indraATnospamsmartt.com> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>) 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center 
Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19970925075648.4e3f7cdeATnospamdomin8rex.com> 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
 
Gloria Greco wrote: 
>  
> shane (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent ) wrote: 
> > 
> > Dear Gloria:  May I thank you for your wonderful, clear well thought our 
> > reply to Ron Harrow (RE:  Good & Evil and Kundalini).  I really appreciate 
> > your post and I really thank you that now I will not feel a need to spend 
> > four hours composing a reply.  You said it SO well. 
> > 
> >       If anyone reading this is truly having difficulty with these issues, 
> > if any one out there is starting to veer towards situational ethics, if 
> > anyone out there is experiencing difficulty knowing how to conduct oneself 
> > in the the general area of "moral ethics",  I strongly suggest that you 
> > start listening to Dr. Laura.  I assure you she will remove some of your 
> > confusion.  Her work was highlighed recently in a magazine, "What Is 
> > Enlightenment?" 
> > 
> > Enjoy your day. 
>  
> HI, 
> I have heard Dr. Laura, and so often individuals think it doesn't make 
> any difference when it comes to moral issues. I have a friend who pretty 
> much lived life according to what felt good, to go inside to directly 
> relate with God one has very high standards of behavior, and when it 
> isn't there the struggle naturally occurs until the realization comes 
> in. Those on the spiritual path soon learn you don't get away with 
> anything with spirit.   In fact all the commandments are in tact with 
> love thy neighbor as thyself being the spiritual law for working out of 
> the heart center. That is why self discipline is so important. Gloria
 
Hello Shane !
 
I listen to Dr. Laura and also to Dr. Joy Browne. Dr. Laura specializes 
on the third dimension situations extremely well. But that in no way is 
the be all and end all of all issues. 
I found Dr. Joy Browne coming from the heart more and trying to connect  
the head and the heart. This is another phase. 
We get sick, and go to see the Family Physician but in many cases we are 
referred to specialists in various areas. 
I do not object to what you opine. Your perspective may not be same as 
mine, I may beg to differ, and that in no way I am wrong or you are 
wrong.
 
In the transitional phases we all need to have self discipline, and when 
we have transformed ourselves only then the realization comes. Even 
after realization our thoughts, ego-consciosuness, our emotional 
consciousness need to express through the filters of our memories and 
the physical bodies conditioned by our DNA, and many a time our 
discerning faculties go to sleep. That's when we find ourselves in 
puddles. But inner strength and realizations do help immensely in our 
march forward.  
Instead of reaction I use response, as long we have to live in three 
dimensions we have to have moral ethics otherwise our social structure 
would fall apart and chaos would come. It is true what Gloria shares, 
I can understand her viewpoint with clarity. It is my belief or 
understanding that we may get away with wrongdoings if we not caught, in 
this three dimensionalworld, but there is no getting away with our 
wrondoings in the spiritworld. The law of causation is very strict and 
to the letter of the law itself. 
I strongly agree with Gloria's thoughts.
 
All the best and more power of illumination to you.
 
Indra 
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 07:57:59 
From: indra <indraATnospamsmartt.com> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>) 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: (no subject) 
Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19970925075759.4e3fc968ATnospamdomin8rex.com> 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
 
David Bozzi wrote: 
>  
> jh2owbmATnospammoa.net (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent ) wrote: 
>  
> > But the ego and mind sometimes have 
> > strands that are made of iron.  The trick is to not use force to break 
that 
> > iron and this is something I often have a difficult time in remembering. 
>  
> Awareness is heat. 
> Melt the iron. 
>  
> The mind is like a room full of out of control children. 
> You have to find each one, 
> And give to them love. 
> Until you've found every last one, 
> With awareness, 
> And then you shall be free. 
>  
> Blessings
 
Hello David!
 
A beutiful expression of your creativity regarding the mental activity. 
Thanks for sharing.
 
Indra 
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 07:59:17 
From: indra <indraATnospamsmartt.com> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>) 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: Lessons, Evil and Good and Kundalini 
Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19970925075917.3a2f34f2ATnospamdomin8rex.com> 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
 
tg xxx wrote: 
>  
> Ron Harrow wrote.... 
> <<Many of you who responded to my first query, expressed the opinion that 
> good and evil are more or less relative terms.  If that's so, then what 
> compass do you use? 
> <snipped> 
>  
> With joy, love, faith, charity, forgiveness, and acceptance.  Those 
> ripples go a long way... 
>  
> Amore', 
> xxxtg 
>  
> ''The many truths we cling to depend greatly on our point of view." 
>   -Ben Kenobi from 'Return of the Jedi' 
>  
> http://members.aol.com/Teeegeee/tgsplace.html    <~~~~ on the web now!
 
Hello tg xxx !
 
Bravo! For your sharing. You cannot imagine the power you transmitted 
through your words. You have said it all in this regard. Truth is always 
simple. It's us not listening to the spirit within.
 
Indra 
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 08:26:12 -0700 (PDT) 
From: M  <chooseagainATnospamthegrid.net> 
To: shane <MrNamasteATnospamwebtv.net> 
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center  
Message-Id: <199709251526.IAA16857ATnospamgridsat.thegrid.net> 
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At 05:33 PM 9/24/97, shane wrote: 
>      If anyone reading this is truly having difficulty with these issues, 
>if any one out there is starting to veer towards situational ethics, if 
>anyone out there is experiencing difficulty knowing how to conduct oneself 
>in the the general area of "moral ethics",  I strongly suggest that you 
>start listening to Dr. Laura.  I assure you she will remove some of your 
>confusion.  Her work was highlighed recently in a magazine, "What Is 
>Enlightenment?"  
>
 
This is the second mention of that magazine.  No one in my little area has 
heard of it. Big city phenom?  Recent entry to the field?  Esoteric journal 
with subscription list of under 100?  What can you tell me about it and its 
availability?   TIA   M 
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 14:44:56 -0700 
From: E Jason <vv60ATnospamdial.pipex.com> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
CC: jan.watsonATnospamsympatico.ca 
Subject: Choice 
Message-ID: <342ADB58.4A92ATnospamdial.pipex.com> 
 
There is a difference between right and wrong.   
It is not simply that doing right is what you prefer. Many people are seduced by the  
idea of doing whatever they like.  A child learns to not pick up fire, not eat  
everything availble, not to lash out at others and so on. So too there are similar  
sign-posts for the adult attempting evolution.  
Spiritual maturity is very much about recognizing where you are; knowing that there are  
certain qualities that you may embody (through choice). In the initial phase we will be  
concerned with ourself. This self is not the God or Goddess. It is within the domain of  
God or Goddess but is part of the separation that gives us freewill. The price of this  
freedom is duality. The manifestation of duality is seen in good and evil. It is true  
and it is a great Truth that *Ultimately* all is One but that does not mean that if  
something is subjectively good it is ultimately good. 'I like it therefore it is good',  
is childish (not child like).  Let us take a simple example - 'this medicine is  
unpleasant', I prefer this sweety' The patient dies. Now sometimes the medicine is sweet  
and the patient says 'I love this - please can I have more' - if more is given the  
patient may also die. The important thing is to develop the capacity to know what is of  
value. To dismiss the spurious in both ourselves and others. This is very hard because  
people sometimes provide good advice, sometimes bad or they are developed in some areas  
and undeveloped in others. It is for this reason that we engage in study with a guide,  
if we can find one. Most people are so confident of their aptitude, so arrogant in their  
blind fumblings that they would not care to admit they are not sure of the destination  
or the means of travel. If you are happy to be like this - God Bless You - Travel safely  
. . .    
One realizes that one is served through ones service.  Those individuals who move  
towards the ego, with complete abandon, are not engaged in spirituality. They will  
become diverse and interesting people, that is for sure.  If you want or need  
stimulation and diversity, fine, do not confuse such activity for anything higher.  
The idea that everyone has their own path to travel, concerns the means not the way.   
Kundalani energy provides an upsurge in peoples spirituality.  If it happened  
spontaneously, you may not be prepared for the ethical and moral responsibilities that  
goes with it.  If you are in the situation of just having to cope, please know that  
everything is OK. You will be given guidance and help if you ask for it sincerely. It  
may not seem like advice. It may even shock or unnerve you but then if you learn to  
follow your Heart and Trust in Goddess, nothing will hurt you that will not eventually  
exhalt you. 
 
God Bless You All 
Lobster comes down from the pulpit. Rmoves vestments and goes to hide under the nearest  
rock . . . 
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 10:57:04 
From: onarresATnospaminreach.com (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>) 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: Shaktipat online 
Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19970925105704.0a6f55acATnospamdomin8rex.com> 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
 
My thanks to Mystress Angelique and Indra for the quick response to my 
request. I have passed along the information which should help my friend 
re-activate kundalini. She is unable to travel any distance and I am sure 
she will thank you, albeit silently. dor 
At 06:48 AM 9/25/97 -0700, you wrote:
 
>by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent wrote: 
>>  
>> Hi to all, 
>>  
>> I have a request for the website that features online shaktipat. There was 
>> one posted a few months ago, but I no longer have it in my computer. I'm 
>> sure most of you will remember the one of which I speak, it has a picture 
>> of a wonderful lady, whom by seeing/gazing at her face would give 
>> shaktipat. Anyone ? My friend will thank you. 
>>  
>> love 'n light   dor 
>>  
>>   List Mystress comments: 
>>   Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi.. carries the energy of the Mother Goddess. 
>> http://www.halcyon.com/sahajnet/SM2.gif 
>>   She is the World Travelling Shaktipat Granting Sahaja Yoga Mystress.. 
>>   I saw her here in Vancouver Jun.20/97.. Shaktipat world tour sponsored by 
>> the Nobel Prize folks.. for which she was a nominee last year. 
>>   The Shaktipat tune-up I got from her energy still buzzes.. Blessed Be! 
> 
>Hello ! 
> 
>I have met Mataji Nirmala Devi in Vancouver, B.C. and was blessed 
>to have received energy from her. I would recommend the site referred to  
>by the Mystress. 
> 
>Indra 
> 
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 11:46:05 +0100 
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com> 
To: indra <indraATnospamsmartt.com> 
CC: "shane (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)" <MrNamasteATnospamwebtv.net>, 
 kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center 
Message-ID: <342A40EC.43DFATnospamintercomm.com> 
 
Indra:
 
 Even 
> after realization our thoughts, ego-consciosuness, our emotional 
> consciousness need to express through the filters of our memories and 
> the physical bodies conditioned by our DNA, and many a time our 
> discerning faculties go to sleep. That's when we find ourselves in 
> puddles. But inner strength and realizations do help immensely in our 
> march forward. 
> Instead of reaction I use response, as long we have to live in three 
> dimensions we have to have moral ethics otherwise our social structure 
> would fall apart and chaos would come. It is true what Gloria shares, 
> I can understand her viewpoint with clarity. It is my belief or 
> understanding that we may get away with wrongdoings if we not caught, in 
> this three dimensionalworld, but there is no getting away with our 
> wrondoings in the spiritworld. The law of causation is very strict and 
> to the letter of the law itself. 
> I strongly agree with Gloria's thoughts. 
>  
> All the best and more power of illumination to you. 
>  
> Shane and Indra, 
 I see life as the teacher and while it is nice to know from inside what 
is right for us because of listening within, it is still hard for folks 
out there who are dealing with things from trial and error.  
 I have compassion for those who call into Dr. Laura and for her also 
because she may have the right answers but it often comes from that 
human spot of self rightousness, yet she is making an impact on society. 
So, God uses all on every level doesn't he/she? It does all come out in 
the wash. We are very blessed to be alive and participants in this hour. 
Gloria 
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 12:04:07 +0100 
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com> 
To: E Jason <vv60ATnospamdial.pipex.com> 
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, jan.watsonATnospamsympatico.ca 
Subject: Re: Choice 
Message-ID: <342A4526.4F02ATnospamintercomm.com> 
 
Travel safely 
> . . . 
> One realizes that one is served through ones service.  Those individuals who move 
> towards the ego, with complete abandon, are not engaged in spirituality. They will 
> become diverse and interesting people, that is for sure.  If you want or need 
> stimulation and diversity, fine, do not confuse such activity for anything higher. 
> The idea that everyone has their own path to travel, concerns the means not the way. 
> Kundalani energy provides an upsurge in peoples spirituality.  If it happened 
> spontaneously, you may not be prepared for the ethical and moral responsibilities that 
> goes with it.  If you are in the situation of just having to cope, please know that 
> everything is OK. You will be given guidance and help if you ask for it sincerely. It 
> may not seem like advice. It may even shock or unnerve you but then if you learn to 
> follow your Heart and Trust in Goddess, nothing will hurt you that will not eventually 
> exhalt you. 
>  
> God Bless You All 
> Lobster comes down from the pulpit. Rmoves vestments and goes to hide under the nearest 
> rock . . .
 
Lobster, or my dear friend Ed Jason... wonderful sharing. Thank you. It 
is one of those open pitfalls for folks: choises, thinking, wanting, not 
knowing.  With the extreme increase in frequency these days I do believe 
we will see change and hopefully the love with lift it. Gloria 
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 12:06:30 +0100 
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com> 
To: "Holly N. Barrett, Ph.D." <hbarrettATnospamix.netcom.com> 
CC: tg xxx <imtgATnospamjuno.com>, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: work/not work (was Lessons, Evil and Good and Kundalini) 
Message-ID: <342A45B4.7199ATnospamintercomm.com> 
 
Holly N. Barrett, Ph.D. wrote: 
>  
> Your story about suddenly not having to work was marvelous -- and 
> familiar.  Unexpected resources came my way when I knew I had to create 
> much, much more solitary time for myself.  It helped that I also lost 
> all desire to buy things!  Getting past the guilt of not having to work 
> all the time has been a major spiritual lesson for me, mostly anxiety 
> about not being loveable if I'm not performing at a high level of 
> worldly achievement.  Facing unstructured, anonymous time has been one 
> of the most difficult, and rewarding, spiritual tasks I've ever 
> attempted.  Holly
 
Remember there is purpose for everything, I time for everything also. 
This time may not be for you...yourself, but for the soul who 
desperately wants and needs to break free of restrictions self imposed. 
This then is a time to work harder then ever. Gloria 
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 14:22:38 
From: rolf flockoi <flockoiATnospammagick.net> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>) 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19970925142238.413f084eATnospamdomin8rex.com> 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
 
> Ron Harrow wrote.... 
> <<Many of you who responded to my first query, expressed the opinion that 
> good and evil are more or less relative terms.  If that's so, then what 
> compass do you use? 
> <snipped> 
>  
> With joy, love, faith, charity, forgiveness, and acceptance.  Those 
> ripples go a long way... 
>  
> Amore', 
> xxxtg 
--------------------
 
And then appeareth the Mafia and the Amish?
 
RF 
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 14:27:57 
From: indra <indraATnospamsmartt.com> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>) 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: Choice 
Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19970925142757.413f97dcATnospamdomin8rex.com> 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
 
E Jason wrote: 
>  
> There is a difference between right and wrong.<snipped>It may even shock 
or unnerve you but then if you learn to 
> follow your Heart and Trust in Goddess, nothing will hurt you that will 
not eventually 
> exhalt you. 
>  
> God Bless You All 
> Lobster comes down from the pulpit. Rmoves vestments and goes to hide 
under the nearest 
> rock . . . 
 Hi Lobster ! 
Your post is full of clarity. Spirituality involves the integration of 
the ego. Ego centric view is localized to the person only, just like 
when you are on the you would have view of the landscape from horizon to 
horizon. 
The ego limits our vision, our potentials,our understanding, our 
perspectives,and probably shuts the windows and doors to spirituality. 
Appreciate your post.
 
Indra 
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 14:26:07 
From: SchrLLATnospamaol.com (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>) 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: Choice 
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In a message dated 97-09-25 12:26:43 EDT, you write:
 
<<  One realizes that one is served through ones service.  Those 
individuals who 
move towards the ego, with complete abandon, are not engaged in spirituality. 
They will become diverse and interesting people, that is for sure.  If you 
want or need stimulation and diversity, fine, do not confuse such activity 
for anything higher.  The idea that everyone has their own path to travel, 
concerns the means not the way.  >> 
Said to the lobster under the rock; 
Forgive me for taking this out of context, but I have moved more toward 
spirituality as I have learned to develop a stronger, healthier ego.  In the 
yoga I learned, my spiritual quest requires that I develop my body, mind and 
spirit in balance  and holistically. To be merely spiritual was not enough, 
not balanced.  
  Love and Light, the rose 
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 14:28:30 
From: indra <indraATnospamsmartt.com> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>) 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center 
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Gloria Greco wrote: It does all come out in 
> the wash. We are very blessed to be alive and participants in this hour. 
> Gloria
 
Very Very True!----------Indra 
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 14:24:51 
From: "Duncan, Mark" <duncanmATnospamemh22.eustis.army.mil> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>) 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Seeing Prana? 
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I have started my masters program at Atlantic University in Virginia 
Beach.  The area is visual arts - the transpersonal approach.
 
Tuesday (9-23-97), my art teacher explained that what I was seeing was 
prana.  I would like to believe him; however, it doesn't feel right.
 
Please help me out.
 
Have you ever seen a television set on a channel with no station 
broadcasting there.  It looks like a screen full of black and white bees 
all pissed off.  Some patterns of swirling bees and such.
 
This what I see.  I see this with my eyes closed or open.  Like grainy 
photographic film.  This doesn't interfere with my visual perception.  
 
If this is seeing prana, can I refine it or tune it or use it for the 
good in helping people or myself?  Now, I can't make any sense of what I 
see.  Is this due to my kundalini?  If so is it in my sixth chakra?
 
I am looking forward to hearing from my friends on the list.
 
Love & Light
 
Mark C. Duncan 
Network Engineer 
Information Technology Solutions, Inc. 
Building 2787, Ft. Eustis, VA  
757.878.0071 ext. 297 
duncanmATnospamemh22.eustis.army.mil 
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 14:22:13 
From: "Melissa Rea" <mreaATnospamservos.com> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>) 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: Tree Hugging 
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 Flute,
 
I really enjoyed your poem!!  Thanks for sharing!!!  *smile*
 
Melissa Rea
 
-----Original Message----- 
From: FIute <FIuteATnospamprodigy.net> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com> 
Date: Wednesday, September 24, 1997 8:54 AM 
Subject: Tree Hugging
 
 
>Laughing.. ok 
>Here's my tree hugging poem 
> 
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 14:31:40 
From: KfineATnospamnetcom.ca (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>) 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Many thanks 
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I want to thank all of you who have send me information on 
how to help some of my clients best. I have received from this list very  
valuable information and I am greatfull to have found this  
mailing list.
 
thank you again 
 
Love and light 
Diane
 
 
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