1997/09/18  12:46  
 kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #450 
  
kundalini-l-d Digest				Volume 97 : Issue 450
 
Today's Topics: 
  Re: Trusting the "U" 
  Re: Monster Nun. 
  Re: the three stooges 
  Re: Just Wondering 
  Re: Ego: What is it? 
  Re: 100th Monkey Business 
  Re: Question. 
  [Fwd: Re: Trusting the "U"] 
  re:  Monster Nun. 
  Noises in the Head       
  re: Trusting the "U" 
  Trusting the "U" 
  Re: stooges and other mindlessness 
  Re: Just Wondering 
  Re: Anonymous: A question or two. 
  Re: stooges and other mindlessness 
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 22:13:20 
From: Indra <indraATnospamsmartt.com> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>) 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: Trusting the "U" 
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Hello Nancy !
 
What a transformation I perceive through your narration. A great motivator 
it is to all who would read, understand and empathaize. 
It has expanded my faith on the Universe. 
Please share whenever you can.
 
God Bless,
 
Indra
 
Nancy (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent ) wrote:
 
> Hi all, 
> 
> My life overturned this past year...business gone, marriage over,  many 
> relationships severed, letting go of possessions,  other personal 
> traumatic experiences. 
> 
> At first, I was shocked. I hated it. I swam against the current, trying 
> to recreate my old life. The more I swam, the harder the current became. 
> But I am a strong current. I thought I had beat the current. But as I 
> started coasting to shore, I was pulled in life's undertow and died. 
> 
> Death was easier than the struggle. But then I was given a second chance 
> at life. I didn't know how to proceed. I had some ideas about possible 
> directions but didn't want to get caught in the same current. My life 
> after death began with solitude. This provided me the time for my 
> caterpillar spirit to spin its coccoon. 
> 
> (Right before I "died" a friend who could see auras noticed a pink hue 
> overtaking my normally green aura. After death, my aura was completely 
> pink. She described it as hard and shell-like. It didn't want her to 
> inquire about its purpose. It said she hadn't done her work and she was 
> not appropriate. The only message she received was that I had a trek to 
> complete. Two other people were involved. And then the warning, don't 
> search for the scribe. My friend has never wanted to see auras or see 
> spirits. After her encounter with me, she smelled this rotten meat 
> stench and was ill all evening. That night she had a vivid dream where 
> she was shown that in a previous life she had been a spiritual counselor 
> for those living and dead. This time she wanted a "normal" life. Her 
> guides told her she had only to ask and her spiritual sight would 
> disappear. Now she sees no auras nor spirits.) 
> 
> The past couple of months I have been learning how to recreate my life. 
> I have used my natural urges but haven't forced things. I create the 
> vision, then let go and let the universe take care of the details. 
> 
> This past week after 6 weeks of searching, I obtained employment. I am 
> working in a public relations department in a hospital. At first I was 
> excited (food! rent! insurance!). Then the daily grind smacked me. I 
> remembered why I didn't like having a job. Every day I also had to bike 
> 8 miles to work because  my leased vehicle had to be returned. I don't 
> mind exercise, but two nights ago it seemed a bit much. My neck ached 
> from stress, biking and my uncomfortable computer setup. I was biking 
> uphill with a 15 mile wind blowing me back. Every project I had 
> undertaken at work that day seemed to lead to dead ends. I HATE THIS! I 
> thought, knowing I should be grateful. THIS SUCKS! but most people would 
> love to have this job. 
> 
> How can this job possibly have meaning? I wondered. Some of the k-posts, 
> particularly those talking about listening helped me. And some of my 
> e-mail friends provided some listening for me. Okay, maybe I just need 
> to add my light and love into whatever project I'm working on. Maybe 
> that's my purpose. This seemed to calm that restlessness. 
> 
> Last night I dreamt that there was a dead monkey in a cage. It's skin 
> was half gone. This is disgusting, I remember thinking. Why is it in my 
> house. Yet, I was fascinated by it. I still don't know this dream's 
> significance. 
> 
> But today, I think I discovered why I am where I'm at. I met a very 
> enlightened individual today who is involved in a "healing environment" 
> committee at the hospital. They are working to use the arts to help in 
> people's recovery. Her particular emphasis is music therapy. The group 
> is working on creating a library of music which would be available to 
> patients. It will take educating staff and patients. Meeting her today 
> just turned my whole attitude around. Wow. My crass writing, business, 
> pr skills could actually be used for healing! I feel so honored and 
> priviliged. 
> 
> Tonight, I picked up a much older car which won't require monthly 
> payments. Finding that car was another gift. It was right on my bike 
> route and nobody else had called. After I test drove the car, the phone 
> was ringing off the hook with interested buyers. 
> 
> I know a lot of us have experienced so much confusion, frustration and 
> pain with this thing called life. What's the point? I know I've 
> wondered. I just wanted to share that sometimes when we cease struggling 
> we can allow the universe to carry us where it will. Going with the flow 
> still feels unnatural to my striving nature, but it has become easier. 
> 
> Thanks, my k friends, for being there to let me share my enlightened 
> moment. 
> 
> Namaste, 
> Nancy 
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 22:16:04 
From: Indra <indraATnospamsmartt.com> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>) 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: Monster Nun. 
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Hello !
 
The shadow exists because we exist. Without ou existence there would be no 
shadow. I agree we must acknowledge our shadow side without judgement, 
evaluate it objectively and use that understanding in self improvement and 
healing.
 
Indra
 
by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent wrote:
 
> Serpent, 
> When I learned that I must resolve opposites to be able to grow, I began to 
> mend my broken and miserable ego. Now I can  see more clearly. I feel less 
> guilt ridden and  more peaceful. Sat Chit Ananda       Linda 
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 22:16:29 
From: Indra <indraATnospamsmartt.com> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>) 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: the three stooges 
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Hello !
 
All images create a reflection on our minds. The reflections stimulate the 
memory to make us understand. Then choice comes in. The natural process 
of all living organisms is to shun pain and misery and enjoy the pleasure. 
But this also may be chosen the other way round, according to one's propensity 
or natural inclination related to the person's comfort level.
 
Indra
 
M wrote:
 
> Angelique wrote: 
> 
> >As a tiny child, I was terrified of the three stooges.. would run and 
> >hide when they came on TV.. as my Mother has reminded me with some 
> >amusement.. 
> >  The really scariest thing was stupid people being mean to each other for 
> >no reason.. and other people laughing at them.. art imitating life. 
> > 
> 
> I didn't hide, but I never stayed around if their lunacy was being broadcast 
> and I have never figured out their appeal.  I can hardly believe anyone 
> could possibly find them funny. Is it chromozonal, or what? 
> 
> M 
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 22:13:55 
From: Indra <indraATnospamsmartt.com> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>) 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: Just Wondering 
Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19970917221355.0ab76914ATnospamdomin8rex.com> 
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Hello !
 
I have had such sonic booms  several times. I have heard sound of Flute, the 
buzzing bee, and gongs of bells. 
Sometimes, these sounds have built up tremendous pressures in my head. 
Probably my blood pressure went soaring too, at the time. 
I believe when we are receptive, relaxed,and listen, our psychic abilities 
which are part of our natural self  surface more readily on our conscious 
plane 
of existemce.
 
God Bless,
 
Indra
 
by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent wrote:
 
> In a message dated 97-09-17 19:54:48 EDT, you write: 
> 
> << 
>  Several times I have experienced a terribly loud sound. There is 
>  no external source for it. I would liken it to the sound generated 
>  if one were to turn a high wattage stereo on full volume for a split 
>  second. Or perhaps, a very loud burst from a baritone or trombone. >> 
> 
> i guess sometimes we are just not pauing enough attention. Have you ever 
> tried to get someone's attention who is ignoring you? 
> My first experience was while driving on the freeway. The sound went off in 
> my head and I must have jumped a foot. It was  a loud  ringing sound in the 
> middle of my head.........Look for patterns,                the rose 
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 22:15:24 
From: Indra <indraATnospamsmartt.com> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>) 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: Ego: What is it? 
Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19970917221524.0ab7057cATnospamdomin8rex.com> 
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Hello ! 
Regarding the ego I have a different perspective. Without the ego we may 
not be 
able to function in this world of duality. What I feel is important though, 
that 
instead of being driven by our ego, we could listen to it, discern what it 
offers, 
make the choice and drive the ego with our intentional and awareness filled 
consciosuness. Then I suppose, we would not negate the ego but make use of 
it in 
the constructive, healing, and reformative process and transform our lives 
the way we choose to.
 
Indra by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent wrote:
 
> In a message dated 97-09-17 04:36:52 EDT, you write: 
> 
> << the ego will act like the "poor me" 
>  saying "don't forget me, I'm here to help".  Other times it won't come 
>  out to be seen.  It also has cut, scratched and threatened its host/s in 
>  the meditation. >> 
> Sue. 
> This abusive treatment of the ego may only serve to create a larger and more 
> powerful shadow. If you banish the ego from consciousness it will become 
part 
> of the shadow, the unconscious. The ego is consciousness. When the shadow 
> becomes too powerful and too full of unconscious materials , it will become 
> an autonomous entity, taking over consciousness. This is madness, psychosis! 
> To become a healer, a bridge must be created between the conscious and the 
> unconscious, not a locked door!.     the rose 
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 22:14:53 
From: Indra <indraATnospamsmartt.com> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>) 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: 100th Monkey Business 
Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19970917221453.0ab70bb2ATnospamdomin8rex.com> 
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Hello, 
I have heard Rupert Sheldrake a Bio Physicist in England talk on Morphic 
Resonance Principle. It is very true that most things, ideas, perspective are 
contagious throughout time.
 
Indra
 
LibraKat11ATnospamaol.com wrote:
 
> << We could say, that by the same principle, in a restrictive way, as more 
>  and more people become enlightened, it will become more and more easier 
>  for the others to become enlightened. >> 
> 
> This seems to apply to many things.  For years no one thought a mile 
could be 
> run in less than 5 minutes.  When someone finally broke this barrier and 
> achieved the 4 minute mile, many runners began to run a mile in under 5 
> minutes. 
> 
> Thoughtforms (memes) have been studied since the 50's and there are several 
> books on studies that document the "contagiousness" of thoughts. 
> 
> Kat 
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 22:18:17 
From: Indra <indraATnospamsmartt.com> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>) 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: Question. 
Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19970917221817.0ab77cd2ATnospamdomin8rex.com> 
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Hello !
 
Thanks for sharing your experience. 
Couple of years ago I had been to see a person full of divinity. They 
congregation of 250 people were chanting. I wept through it all. My whole body
 
vibrated  for a couple of hours. Then I felt strongly that I was healed 
through the experience and the environment. 
Indra
 
Debora A. Orf (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent ) wrote:
 
> Hello there, 
> 
> Thank you for the kind welcome messages that came. now i have a question 4 
> y'all. 
> 
> this summer i did a 15 day intensive meditation retreat. not too far into 
> the retreat my right shoulder area started hurting a lot. After the 
> retreat it faded. At the time i thought it was muscle strain. 
> 
> But recently it came back..along with heat coming from my heart center and 
> a tingling sensation coming from the very top of my head. sometimes i'll 
> be in my car and i'll feel it and want to curl my spine backward to deal 
> with it. i'm pretty new in dealing with energies in my subtle channels and 
> any advice here would be welcome. i plan to ask one of my teachers when he 
> gets back in the area about it, but i thought i'd shoot the idea out to 
> the list too. 
> 
> when this energy rises, i feel like i'm either going to burst into tears 
> or start laughing insanely. 
> 
> thank you for taking time to read this letter, 
> 
> maitri, 
> 
> --dao 
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 10:41:41 -0700 
From: E Jason <vv60ATnospamdial.pipex.com> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: [Fwd: Re: Trusting the "U"] 
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Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 10:22:45 -0700 
From: E Jason <vv60ATnospamdial.pipex.com> 
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To:  
 "Nancy (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)" <NancyATnospammagiccity.com> 
Subject: Re: Trusting the "U" 
References: <3.0.1.16.19970917203932.2e5f31ccATnospamdomin8rex.com> 
 
Nancy (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent ) wrote: 
  
> Hi all, 
>  
> My life overturned this past year...business gone, marriage over,  many 
> relationships severed, letting go of possessions,  other personal 
> traumatic experiences.
 
<snip>
 
> But today, I think I discovered why I am where I'm at. I met a very 
> enlightened individual today who is involved in a "healing environment" 
> committee at the hospital. They are working to use the arts to help in 
> people's recovery. Her particular emphasis is music therapy. The group 
> is working on creating a library of music which would be available to 
> patients. It will take educating staff and patients. Meeting her today 
> just turned my whole attitude around. Wow. My crass writing, business, 
> pr skills could actually be used for healing! I feel so honored and 
> priviliged.
 
Hi Nancy, 
Tranformation and change. Can it all be nice please . . . :)  
Sometimes we encounter 'going with the flow'. Sometimes the currents 
seem too strong, painful and hurtful. The most difficult thing to 
remember through times of transition and difficulties is that if we 
commit ourselves to the Spirit, she is protecing and enabling our 
growth. SHE IS ALWAYS WITH US.  
HAVE NO FEAR - YOU ARE ALWAYS IN THE HANDS OF THE GODDESS. 
She seperates you from youself, destroys your fantasies, purifies your 
intentions, strengthens your resolve; moulds you.  
Your soul has asked for growth. The weak grows where it will and 
achieves little of consequence. The strong grows where it can barely 
survive the pain. So the weak has not struggled and has grown much as 
one would expect. The strong struggles and it grows in Greater Love, 
through Greater Love, with Greater Love.    
You are indeed honoured and priviliged. You have the opportunity to do 
good. I wish you every success.
 
Love and Blessings 
Lobster
 
A R C   
Lobster playground . . . 
http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/town/place/vv60/index.html 
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 08:45:49 -0500 (CDT) 
From: hbarrettATnospamix.netcom.com (Holly N. Barrett, Ph.D.) 
To: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com> 
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: re:  Monster Nun. 
Message-Id: <199709181345.IAA19670ATnospamdfw-ix2.ix.netcom.com>
 
It has been my project for a few years to find ways to get early  
adolescents connected to spirit but your idea of looking to even  
younger folk really appeals to me.   
Boy the connection between molestation and extrasensory capacity  
continues to astound me.  I know Kenneth Ring says the need to leave  
the body leads to this capacity but I also think it is the other way  
around.  I'll bet small children who are especially psychic (somewhat  
loners by definition, perhaps) "read" their perpetrators in a way that  
might bypass or distort normal self-protective signals.  Then of course  
they could never articulate what happened to someone who could help  
them, both because of their isolation and because the experience was  
too big for words.
 
One of the miracles of K is how it reconfigures your whole childhood.   
Thanks for stimulating so much in me about this issue!  Love, Holly 
Date: 	Thu, 18 Sep 1997 03:58:48 -1000 
From: Ruth Trimble <trimbleATnospamhawaii.edu> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Noises in the Head       
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Hi Jeff Jackson: 
Sounds.. aha... thought I had thunderstorms in my head...and popping 
sounds that I thought everyone could hear, but no.. it was all inside my 
head.  It is a wild journey.  I do not know of this volume you are 
experiencing.. but I remember the sharpness and pain almost to every part 
of my head.  It will pass... I think breathing gently helps... 
Just one more of HER manifestations.
 
I can unblock some people's stuck K. over the ethers if they truly want it 
unblocked. Once a friend had a piece of glass across the sushumna (central 
column) which he had put there to stop the K. rising as he was afraid of 
the out-of-control feeling it gave. He was unable to sleep and had a 
raging mind all night. Removing the glass (etheric glass) enabled him to 
sleep again.. and the K. to do her thing. We live about 3000 miles apart.
 
Unfortunately, I am working for a living and this is my busiest time.. I 
have not yet managed to make a living writing books on Kundalini, 
especially when I give it away on the Internet here and in my 
site...inspite ofwhat others might imagine!!!!!
 
If you are serious and can be patient, I may be able to help.  I need a 
full name, and physical description with clear details about the 
symptoms and where it feels stuck. I will respond as I can. 
Reiki works SUPER well.. my girlfriend across the island sent me some this 
weekend when a toothache flared up with pain and tenderness.  Her Reiki 
allowed it to get no worse but to actually subside and kept me fine until 
Monday when I could get to the dentist...saving me an emergency call. It 
works! 
Aloha... Ruth  
****** 
Everytime one realizes something of the truth, there is a dance in the 
heart.  The heart is the only testimony for the truth. (Osho) 
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Ruth Trimble                            email:<trimbleATnospamhawaii.edu>  
    http://166.122.32.61/trimble/ 
***** 
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 09:14:53 -0500 (CDT) 
From: hbarrettATnospamix.netcom.com (Holly N. Barrett, Ph.D.) 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: re: Trusting the "U" 
Message-Id: <199709181414.JAA06078ATnospamdfw-ix10.ix.netcom.com>
 
Wonderful story, Nancy.  Yup.  Just moved 2500 miles, new life, new  
partner, everchanging insides!  When I lived in Los Angeles, I was  
amused by myself and others who moved there because we wanted to  
"grow," and then complained loudly about the earthquakes, riots,  
floods, frail human relationships and the overall Sodom-Gomorrahness of  
the place.  I have been such a will-driven person it took that much  
just to BEGIN to learn how to surrender!  Holly 
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 11:41:09 -0400 
From: imtgATnospamjuno.com (tg xxx) 
To: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Trusting the "U" 
Message-ID: <19970918.114110.8630.0.imtgATnospamjuno.com>
 
Holly wrote.... 
<<When I lived in Los Angeles, I was amused by myself and others who 
moved there because we wanted to "grow," and then complained loudly about 
the earthquakes, riots, floods, frail human relationship and the overall 
Sodom-Gomorrahness of the place.  I have been such a will-driven person 
it took that much just to BEGIN to learn how to surrender!>>
 
As I was reading this, my mind *heard* Kundalini here, although Holly was 
speaking about Los Angeles.... (re-read and replace L.A. with K.)...
 
LOL, 
xxxtg
 
Moving at the Speed of Life....
 
http://members.aol.com/Teeegeee/tgsplace.html    <~~~~ on the web now! 
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 12:06:50 -0400 
From: heidi <heidiATnospamadan.kingston.net> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: stooges and other mindlessness 
Message-Id: <199709181606.MAA19209ATnospamadan.kingston.net> 
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>BOO! 
>Did I scare you? How do you get through life - by avoiding it? I try and 
>avoid people who search only for Peace, Bliss and Harmony - they are 
>usually some of the most disturbed, unhappy and ridiculous people one 
>could ever meet. 
>Sorry if I scared you . . . 
> 
>Lobster 
>tip toeing gently back under a rock to hide . . .
 
There are people who look for peace all their lives and never come close to 
it. There are others who find peace boring and like to disturb shit for they 
find that exciting. Hell, I have friends who freely admit to that.
 
To arrive at the PEACE I have found I had to go through a lifetime of hell 
so you could say that I have graduated, not, as you imply, lived my life in 
peaceful "boredom". How could I define what peace was if I had not 
experienced its opposite? 
 
When I stopped watching the news it was after years and years of watching 
its violence and one day, when I found I was actually BORED with all the 
killings in the various wars, I made a conscious decision to boycott it and 
any other mindlessness  which was indiscriminately piped into my home. 
Consequently, I tape all and any shows I want to watch to keep my soul from 
cluttering with NONEsense. It has better and more important things to go after.
 
You couldn't be more wrong if you think I am a person who is SCARED. 
Obviously the sarcasm in my post has escaped you. When one has experienced 
HELL, in all its manifestations, there is NOTHING and NO ONE, who will ever 
scare one again. 
 
However, as I write this, I realise that I am now contributing to satisfy 
your hunger for conflict and while I threw you a few crumbs, that is all 
you're gonna get so make the most of it.
 
Not able to wish you PEACE since you reject it, I wish you all the CONFLICT 
you NEED, (that is one thing there won't be a shortage of) as long as you're 
HAPPY  with it.  ;)
 
LAY, (laughin' at ya)
 
Am 
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 10:44:51 +0100 
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com> 
To: "Jeff Jackson (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)" <jacksonATnospamdaimler.ucs.indiana.edu> 
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: Just Wondering 
Message-ID: <3420F812.68C4ATnospamintercomm.com> 
 
Jeff wrote: 
> Several times I have experienced a terribly loud sound. There is 
> no external source for it. I would liken it to the sound generated 
> if one were to turn a high wattage stereo on full volume for a split 
> second. Or perhaps, a very loud burst from a baritone or trombone. 
>  
> In all but one instance, it was short, not very loud, and not very unpleasant. 
> However, the last time it happened, a few years ago, I was almost brought to 
> my knees at the volume and the pain. The last time was once again a mere 
> split second, and the pain ended with the sound with no residual evidence 
> that it had ever happened.
 
Hi Jeff, 
 Sounds, high pitch, low, humming, loud cracks, bees, ocean, all are 
part of the awkening, in fact, you will hear so many cracks, creeks and 
other sounds it is best to not notice them at all except... what they 
are there for, which is to take you in deeper inside. And, to take you 
into places inside and outside that you have never been before.We live 
in a world of matter in the conscious mind side, but we live in an 
invisible world also simoltaneously, so we are experiencing and going 
into multi-levels of experience at any given moment. At night you 
clearly explore these dimensions, and the sounds, lights, colors are all 
your preparation for it. 
 
 Are you familiar with the Monroe Institute, they have taken those 
sounds and reproduced various ones coming in through different ears, 
anyway these sounds produce altered states or what they call focus 10, 
12, etc. 
 
 This is a fact that is true, however, it is much better to become 
introduced to these states naturally when your in your flow then in a 
test, although I can see it is effective. 
 
 Kundalini is purification for a much bigger explosion of energy, this 
is what most don't recognize, it is just the beginning. Gloria 
>  
> 
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 10:53:24 +0100 
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com> 
To: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com> 
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: Anonymous: A question or two. 
Message-ID: <3420FA12.3367ATnospamintercomm.com> 
 
Mystress Angelique Serpent wrote: 
>  
> >Return-Path: 
> >X-Originating-IP: [206.64.48.85] 
> >From: Anon. 
> >To: kundalini-l-ownerATnospamexecpc.com 
> >Subject: A question or two. 
> >Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 20:16:10 PDT 
> > 
> >Dear Kundalini Mailing list, 
> > 
> >I enjoy all this information about this phenomena called kundalini.I 
> >have been a fundamentalist for 17 years of my life.And the past two 
> >years i have been searching for a more meaningful life with God.Theres 
> >been alot of ups and downs,but i know i have to move on because i will 
> >not go all the way back, I was learning about this new (to me) form, 
> >called meditation, which i did not know one thing about .
 
This is a courageous move for you, and I'm sure it is both exciting and 
different. Really everthing you have known is just to be transformed, 
this is the way it is for everyone. You don't lose your beliefs, instead 
everyone that you have just becomes changed in your spiritual movement. 
 
Kundalini is a lifetime process of change, it is direct as experience 
and because of it, you never get away from it. But, it can be a 
beautiful enlightening time if you make God the corner stone of your 
moment to moment life. In this, you transform your belief with power and 
you still carry forward the truth that held that belief together. This 
is your foundation, it needs to be brought face to face with the Holy 
Spirit, which kundalini is also in another form. Kundalini is the 
individual powerhouse of divine energy called prana, Holy Spirit is 
universal both come together to create the great bang, but meanwhile, 
allow kundalini to work with you. Don't fight it or even try to 
understand it, it isn't something you can do either with, instead 
surrender to it in the form that it is God's Will for you. Then you are 
in a very safe place, learn to observe the ride like it is happening to 
someone else. And, indeed you will have something to cry great joyful 
tears about. God Bless ...Gloria 
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 10:52:13 
From: drdukeATnospamservtech.com (Dr.Duke) (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>) 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: stooges and other mindlessness 
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>Whether it was a movie or Grimm's or H.C. Anderson fairytailes or any other 
>thing that smacked of violence, as a child, I was always very uncomfortable 
>with it. Would hide or put my hands to my ears. Today, WILL NO LONGER WATCH 
>THE NEWS, downright BOYCOTT it. Haven't learned a thing, have I??????   ;) 
;) ;) 
> 
>Wishing y'all PEACE, for if you have that, it includes BLISS and HARMONY and 
>therefore inner HAPPINESS which is the only one we can ultimately count on. 
> 
>Am 
> 
If life is a circle of bad and good, yin and yang, one must accept 
both. Everything helps define every other thing. To pick only one side 
or thought, denies the facts of existence, denies an understanding of 
the process of existence.  
Thank You 
Education, attaching the electrodes of knowledge to the nipples of ignorance. 
Dr.Duke 
http://www.servtech.com/public/drduke/Index.html
 
 
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